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Chuck Gould August 29th 07 01:38 AM

Larry Craig, the "Moralist" (giggle)
 
On Aug 28, 4:47?pm, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:40:57 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:





On Aug 28, 4:28?pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 4:20 pm, HK wrote:
. At first, Craig objected to the man's anonymity, but


agreed to listen. The man's voice was disguised.


Craig said the man is an activist. "The gay movement, we know it for
what it is. It's now aggressive and it's liberal and it's ...


read more


There is nothing here but a guy who taps his foot while taking a ****,
an actiist cop running a sting, and a bunch of political activists
making up stories, Not one shred of evedince, anywhere, at all,
period. And the guy pled guilty to "disorderly conduct" for tapping
his foot, no lewd conduct, just tapping while taking a ****, that's
all folks, time to go home now.


But I am guessing you don't want to talk about Harold Ford's
conviction today for taking a $50.000 bribe, forbid we try to stop the
dems from selling us out...


Harry is so blinded by partisanship that he fails to see the most
frightening thing about this entire incident.


The Senator was arrested for tapping his foot while sitting on a
public toilet. Is sitting on the toilet a crime? We better all hope
not. How about tapping your foot?


The readily available information, including the arrest report makes your
"interpretation" laughable.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


So you say..........but yet you supply none of the details you rely
upon.
Pretty cheap argument.

I have learned that the senator was sitting in a public restroom in an
airport. He had a suitcase with him that he placed inside the stall.
He tapped his foot while sitting on the toilet. A local vice cop
thought that the acts of putting a suitcase inside the toilet stall
and tapping of a foot while seated on the throne was a form of
"homosexual sign language", intended to attract persons interested in
performing a homosexual act in the airport restroom.

Even if it *was* some sort of homosexual code, how many people could
easily and innocently put take their carry on luggage into the stall
with them? (What else you gonna do with it?) How many people have
easily and innocently tapped a foot while seated on a toilet? I'm sure
I've done it at some time in my life or another- and I have no
interest at all in getting intimate with another guy.It takes more
than a foot tap in a rest room to make a person gay......and if he is
gay that hasn't been a crime in a very long time in most of the more
enlightened states.

There was a time in this country when what you *did* could be a crime.
Now we've progressed to classifying certain thoughts and or sexual
fantasies as crimes. If you get right down to it and thinking or
fantasizing about sex with another person is the same has acting on
that thought----I suggest that virtually every married man and woman
in the entire country could be found guilty of adultery.


HK August 29th 07 01:47 AM

Larry Craig, the "Moralist" (giggle)
 
Chuck Gould wrote:


I have learned that the senator was sitting in a public restroom in an
airport. He had a suitcase with him that he placed inside the stall.
He tapped his foot while sitting on the toilet. A local vice cop
thought that the acts of putting a suitcase inside the toilet stall
and tapping of a foot while seated on the throne was a form of
"homosexual sign language", intended to attract persons interested in
performing a homosexual act in the airport restroom.



You might want to be more careful, Chuck, next time you are in an
airport rest room.


Chuck Gould August 29th 07 01:55 AM

Larry Craig, the "Moralist" (giggle)
 
On Aug 28, 5:47?pm, HK wrote:


You might want to be more careful, Chuck, next time you are in an
airport rest room.


Got that right. Five minutes after the janitor's gone there's no
telling what you might catch in there. About the only place I use an
ass gasket if one is available. :-)


[email protected] August 29th 07 03:19 AM

Larry Craig, the "Moralist" (giggle)
 
On Aug 28, 7:40 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On Aug 28, 4:28?pm, wrote:





On Aug 28, 4:20 pm, HK wrote:
. At first, Craig objected to the man's anonymity, but


agreed to listen. The man's voice was disguised.


Craig said the man is an activist. "The gay movement, we know it for
what it is. It's now aggressive and it's liberal and it's ...


read more


There is nothing here but a guy who taps his foot while taking a ****,
an actiist cop running a sting, and a bunch of political activists
making up stories, Not one shred of evedince, anywhere, at all,
period. And the guy pled guilty to "disorderly conduct" for tapping
his foot, no lewd conduct, just tapping while taking a ****, that's
all folks, time to go home now.


But I am guessing you don't want to talk about Harold Ford's
conviction today for taking a $50.000 bribe, forbid we try to stop the
dems from selling us out...


Harry is so blinded by partisanship that he fails to see the most
frightening thing about this entire incident.

The Senator was arrested for tapping his foot while sitting on a
public toilet. Is sitting on the toilet a crime? We better all hope
not. How about tapping your foot?

The scary thing is that the senator wasn't arrested for anything he
did- nor for anything he said. He was arrested for something that
somebody *assumed* he was thinking!!

If the terrorists can claim a victory from 9-11, it's that it is now
possible to be arrested, in America, for thinking thoughts not
approved by the government. We can probably ship all of the folks who
don't think government approved thoughts off to Stalags in
Siberia..the Russians have evolved beyond using them and they would
probably cut us a really good deal as subscontractors to house folks
who, in the opionion of one branch of government or another, don't
"think right".

Anybody who thinks this is a democrat or republican issue is as
nearsighted as Magoo.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


But it is political. Repubs beleive in accountability to the point
where some rogue pig or paid political activist can make almost
anything up and the repub is expected to be run out of town. If a dem
is caught (with real evidence) with $90.000 in his freezer he is put
in charge of the committee that funds the organization investigating
him. Convicted of smoking crack = re-elected, raping a minor male page
= uh, nothing, stealing top secret documents in a cover up = nothing.
This Jefferson issue of course a blatent slap in the face to
everything our justice system stands for, perpetrated by what will
surely be known as the most corrupt and arrogant congress in history.
What's next, Barney Frank in charge of the Craig investigation? a And
while you are all around making up stories about repubs, Harold Ford
is convicted of selling his constituants out for $50.000, and Bob
Beckel says if they re-elect him, he would be fine with that! It is a
double standard. The repubs beleive in accountability even for the
notion that someones presence will hurt the country like Gonzalez and
Rove and others leaving in the face of totally unsubstantiated and
bogus insinuation, just to allow the country to move ahead. The
democrats do not hold their own to any standards even close to that.
In fact they go out of their way to do exactly the opposite. It is a
political issue. The most disturbing part is hearing Chuck Shumer and
others admitting Gonzalez was run out of town for purely political
reasons. Not to mention the liberal core who just sits back and
accepts this type of un-American behaviour just because their friends
tell them to, or their own special interset group, although not really
served, was told they would be;(


[email protected] August 29th 07 03:27 AM

Larry Craig, the "Moralist" (giggle)
 
On Aug 28, 10:19 pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 7:40 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:





On Aug 28, 4:28?pm, wrote:


On Aug 28, 4:20 pm, HK wrote:
. At first, Craig objected to the man's anonymity, but


agreed to listen. The man's voice was disguised.


Craig said the man is an activist. "The gay movement, we know it for
what it is. It's now aggressive and it's liberal and it's ...


read more


There is nothing here but a guy who taps his foot while taking a ****,
an actiist cop running a sting, and a bunch of political activists
making up stories, Not one shred of evedince, anywhere, at all,
period. And the guy pled guilty to "disorderly conduct" for tapping
his foot, no lewd conduct, just tapping while taking a ****, that's
all folks, time to go home now.


But I am guessing you don't want to talk about Harold Ford's
conviction today for taking a $50.000 bribe, forbid we try to stop the
dems from selling us out...


Harry is so blinded by partisanship that he fails to see the most
frightening thing about this entire incident.


The Senator was arrested for tapping his foot while sitting on a
public toilet. Is sitting on the toilet a crime? We better all hope
not. How about tapping your foot?


The scary thing is that the senator wasn't arrested for anything he
did- nor for anything he said. He was arrested for something that
somebody *assumed* he was thinking!!


If the terrorists can claim a victory from 9-11, it's that it is now
possible to be arrested, in America, for thinking thoughts not
approved by the government. We can probably ship all of the folks who
don't think government approved thoughts off to Stalags in
Siberia..the Russians have evolved beyond using them and they would
probably cut us a really good deal as subscontractors to house folks
who, in the opionion of one branch of government or another, don't
"think right".


Anybody who thinks this is a democrat or republican issue is as
nearsighted as Magoo.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


But it is political. Repubs beleive in accountability to the point
where some rogue pig or paid political activist can make almost
anything up and the repub is expected to be run out of town. If a dem
is caught (with real evidence) with $90.000 in his freezer he is put
in charge of the committee that funds the organization investigating
him. Convicted of smoking crack = re-elected, raping a minor male page
= uh, nothing, stealing top secret documents in a cover up = nothing.
This Jefferson issue of course a blatent slap in the face to
everything our justice system stands for, perpetrated by what will
surely be known as the most corrupt and arrogant congress in history.
What's next, Barney Frank in charge of the Craig investigation? a And
while you are all around making up stories about repubs, Harold Ford
is convicted of selling his constituants out for $50.000, and Bob
Beckel says if they re-elect him, he would be fine with that! It is a
double standard. The repubs beleive in accountability even for the
notion that someones presence will hurt the country like Gonzalez and
Rove and others leaving in the face of totally unsubstantiated and
bogus insinuation, just to allow the country to move ahead. The
democrats do not hold their own to any standards even close to that.
In fact they go out of their way to do exactly the opposite. It is a
political issue. The most disturbing part is hearing Chuck Shumer and
others admitting Gonzalez was run out of town for purely political
reasons. Not to mention the liberal core who just sits back and
accepts this type of un-American behaviour just because their friends
tell them to, or their own special interset group, although not really
served, was told they would be;(- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Not to mention, for the sake of moving the country Repubs will let
proven criminals like Jefferson, Berger, et al off the hook.. for the
sake of the country, democrats only are interested in personal
indulgence and power, at any cost, country, honor, the soldiers,
personal integerity, honesty, none of this matters to your leadership,
and what's worse is you (main stream democrats as well as activists)
don't even care, I guess you already got yours...


JR North August 29th 07 03:53 AM

Larry Craig, the "Moralist" (giggle)
 
Just stay out of the Mens Room there...
JR

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:20:16 -0400, HK wrote:


Republican hypocrites are soooooo much fun, especially on matters sexual.




From Harry...not a hypocritical bone in his body!

Harry, take it to a political group. a.politics is open. Maybe you could
get Doug to overcome his shyness and meet you there.



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Calif Bill August 29th 07 05:28 AM

Larry Craig, the "Moralist" (giggle)
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

Ahh, those hypocritical Republicans...
From the Idaho Statesman, a conservative newspaper

Does he own a lobsta boat?


Bill,
How many gph do you think a 36' Zimmerman Like Lobster Boat would burn at
cruise?


Does not matter when you only use a boat 2-3 hours a month for 3 months a
year.



HK August 29th 07 11:35 AM

Larry Craig, the "Moralist" (giggle)
 
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:38:33 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Aug 28, 4:47?pm, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:40:57 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:





On Aug 28, 4:28?pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 4:20 pm, HK wrote:
. At first, Craig objected to the man's anonymity, but
agreed to listen. The man's voice was disguised.
Craig said the man is an activist. "The gay movement, we know it for
what it is. It's now aggressive and it's liberal and it's ...
read more
There is nothing here but a guy who taps his foot while taking a ****,
an actiist cop running a sting, and a bunch of political activists
making up stories, Not one shred of evedince, anywhere, at all,
period. And the guy pled guilty to "disorderly conduct" for tapping
his foot, no lewd conduct, just tapping while taking a ****, that's
all folks, time to go home now.
But I am guessing you don't want to talk about Harold Ford's
conviction today for taking a $50.000 bribe, forbid we try to stop the
dems from selling us out...
Harry is so blinded by partisanship that he fails to see the most
frightening thing about this entire incident.
The Senator was arrested for tapping his foot while sitting on a
public toilet. Is sitting on the toilet a crime? We better all hope
not. How about tapping your foot?
The readily available information, including the arrest report makes your
"interpretation" laughable.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So you say..........but yet you supply none of the details you rely
upon.
Pretty cheap argument.



Sorry, I thought you were better informed and could find news stories and facts
on the internet at least at the level of a 5 year old. Spoon feeding it is,
then...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0828071craig1.html





Jesus. Craig pleaded guilty in relation to inappropriate behavior in
public men's room. Chuck must think Craig was passing gas.


[email protected] August 29th 07 11:50 AM

Larry Craig, the "Moralist" (giggle)
 
On Aug 29, 6:35 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:38:33 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:


On Aug 28, 4:47?pm, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:40:57 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:


On Aug 28, 4:28?pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 4:20 pm, HK wrote:
. At first, Craig objected to the man's anonymity, but
agreed to listen. The man's voice was disguised.
Craig said the man is an activist. "The gay movement, we know it for
what it is. It's now aggressive and it's liberal and it's ...
read more
There is nothing here but a guy who taps his foot while taking a ****,
an actiist cop running a sting, and a bunch of political activists
making up stories, Not one shred of evedince, anywhere, at all,
period. And the guy pled guilty to "disorderly conduct" for tapping
his foot, no lewd conduct, just tapping while taking a ****, that's
all folks, time to go home now.
But I am guessing you don't want to talk about Harold Ford's
conviction today for taking a $50.000 bribe, forbid we try to stop the
dems from selling us out...
Harry is so blinded by partisanship that he fails to see the most
frightening thing about this entire incident.
The Senator was arrested for tapping his foot while sitting on a
public toilet. Is sitting on the toilet a crime? We better all hope
not. How about tapping your foot?
The readily available information, including the arrest report makes your
"interpretation" laughable.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -
So you say..........but yet you supply none of the details you rely
upon.
Pretty cheap argument.


Sorry, I thought you were better informed and could find news stories and facts
on the internet at least at the level of a 5 year old. Spoon feeding it is,
then...


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0828071craig1.html


Jesus. Craig pleaded guilty in relation to inappropriate behavior in
public men's room. Chuck must think Craig was passing gas.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


He plead to disorderly conduct for tapping his foot. The cop busted
him based on his own needs. The cops have been criticized for a long
time about this bathroom, they needed to make a statement, the guy
happened to go take a **** during the scam. Same thing around here.
Every two years right before the elections the cops go out and bust a
bunch of HS kids smoking pot to "prove" they are doing their job. Most
if not all of the charges go away soon after the elections.


HK August 29th 07 12:02 PM

Larry Craig, the "Moralist" (giggle)
 
wrote:

He plead to disorderly conduct for tapping his foot. The cop busted
him based on his own needs. The cops have been criticized for a long
time about this bathroom, they needed to make a statement, the guy
happened to go take a **** during the scam.



Right...Craig was arrested for tapping his foot. That's it.

Ever been to the Minneapolis airport? I have. It's huge. There are
dozens and dozens of bathrooms. Craig just happened to pick the one that
was being staked out because it was being used as a "pickup head" by gay
men. Hey, it was just a coincidence. Let's see...Craig peered into the
stall with the cop in it for two whole minutes, then he walked into the
stall next door, sat down and started tapping his foot. Then he played
footsie with the guy next door. Then he reached his hand under the
divider. Then, after he was arrested, he claimed he was handcuffed...but
he wasn't.

The only thing about this case that is significant to me is that Craig
is yet another example of right-wing Republican hypocrisy, an outed gay
man who for years has fought against gay issues and who is the darling
of right-wing nutcase organizations like the anti-Family Research Council.

Maybe you and Chuck ought to get a men's room stall together.






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