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What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
I think 20 years of producing the same model of my 22' C-Dory must
rank up there pretty high. Just wondering... anyone know of a longer production run for a recreational power boat? Dale www.FishWisher.com |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
FishWisher wrote:
I think 20 years of producing the same model of my 22' C-Dory must rank up there pretty high. Just wondering... anyone know of a longer production run for a recreational power boat? Dale www.FishWisher.com Stur-Dee Dories, in production as the same basic boat since 1947. When the founded switched to fiberglass, he used the wood boats as molds. My father sold these boats at his store from the late 1940s through the early 1970s. http://www.stur-deeboat.com/ |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
"HK" wrote in message
. .. FishWisher wrote: I think 20 years of producing the same model of my 22' C-Dory must rank up there pretty high. Just wondering... anyone know of a longer production run for a recreational power boat? Dale www.FishWisher.com Stur-Dee Dories, in production as the same basic boat since 1947. When the founded switched to fiberglass, he used the wood boats as molds. My father sold these boats at his store from the late 1940s through the early 1970s. http://www.stur-deeboat.com/ Also going back to 1947, the Crosby Striper, a boat of my desires to this day. http://www.crosbyyacht.com/Custom_Bo...er/striper.htm Steve P. |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
FishWisher wrote:
I think 20 years of producing the same model of my 22' C-Dory must rank up there pretty high. I can think of a couple of companies that have gone out of business but their molds were purchased and production continued under another name. Mitchell Skiffs is one. I bought a 14' skiff a couple years ago that was produced by South Seas from an original Mitchell mold that's been around since the early '60s. I also have a 1978 planning dory produced by Florida Marine Products from an old Mitchell mold. FMP is now out of business but I'd bet the mold is still around somewhere. Not a power boat but, Rhodes 19 has been around, basically unchanged, since the late 1940's. O'day produced them beginning in the late 1950's, and Stuart Marine started producing them in the eary 1980's. They're still one of the most popular one design classes around. The more I think about it, the more I remember. Rick |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
"Steve P" wrote in message
... "HK" wrote in message . .. FishWisher wrote: I think 20 years of producing the same model of my 22' C-Dory must rank up there pretty high. Just wondering... anyone know of a longer production run for a recreational power boat? Dale www.FishWisher.com Stur-Dee Dories, in production as the same basic boat since 1947. When the founded switched to fiberglass, he used the wood boats as molds. My father sold these boats at his store from the late 1940s through the early 1970s. http://www.stur-deeboat.com/ Also going back to 1947, the Crosby Striper, a boat of my desires to this day. http://www.crosbyyacht.com/Custom_Bo...er/striper.htm Steve P. The Formula 23' design by Don Aronow? Used boats going back to 1967 can commonly be found for sale. The same boat is being produced today as the Abemarle 24'. I might be a little fuzzy on the history but the original Ray Hunt / Bertram Moppie design first ran the Miami to Nassau race in 1960 and surely was produced as the Bertram 31 for well over 20 years. In the boats I have owned category here is a boat that I personally owned that was a 1968 model: http://www.monkeybutler.com/boat/IMG_2188.jpg The same hull was produced by Angler through the late 1980's and another Ray Hunt design, the 13' Boston Whaler. I owned a 1963 but the design was introduced in 1958 I believe. Still made today. Twenty years doesn't seem to be all that uncommon for a production run. Steve P. |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
"HK" wrote in message . .. FishWisher wrote: I think 20 years of producing the same model of my 22' C-Dory must rank up there pretty high. Just wondering... anyone know of a longer production run for a recreational power boat? Dale www.FishWisher.com Stur-Dee Dories, in production as the same basic boat since 1947. When the founded switched to fiberglass, he used the wood boats as molds. My father sold these boats at his store from the late 1940s through the early 1970s. http://www.stur-deeboat.com/ The CL16s have been in production since the 1950s and still going strong. Originally a fiberglass version of the then wooden Wayfarers, they were first manufactured in Nova Scotia...moving to Ontario under new ownership. For $10k Canadian you can still buy a brand spanking new copy today. http://www.vaxxine.com/clsailboats/company_history.htm http://www.vaxxine.com/clsailboats/cl_boat_history.htm |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
On Aug 18, 3:46 pm, wrote:
Glastron Citation springs to mind but I bet the real answer in the flat bottom jon boat. i was going to say the same thing. But as far as name brands go. Chris Smith and his brother Hank started Chris Smith and Son's , building boats, later turning into Chris Craft, (I believe) goes back into the late 1800's http://www.nmma.org/awards/?WinnerId=78 |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
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What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
"FishWisher" wrote in message oups.com... I think 20 years of producing the same model of my 22' C-Dory must rank up there pretty high. Just wondering... anyone know of a longer production run for a recreational power boat? Dale www.FishWisher.com How about 37 years (or thereabouts)? --------------------------------------- "In 1962, Robert J. Newton and his sons, John and Whit, were running a custom boatyard on Junk Bay in Hong Kong called American Marine, Ltd. Father and sons built heavy sailboats and big motor yachts, to designs by the world's top marine architects - Sparkman & Stevens, William Garden, Nat Herreshoff, Ray Hunt and others. That year they commissioned Kenneth Smith, another well-known marine architect, to design a 36 foot, diesel-powered cruising boat. Spray was launched in 1963 and a year later the Newtons abandoned their custom yacht building to focus on producing the first of a line of boats that would be known as Grand Banks." ---------------------------------------- http://www.boatcouncil.com/boat-manu...rand-banks.asp Actually, the first official "model year" for the 36 Classic was 1965. Although the 36 was discontinued for a while, American Marine stated that production of it would be resumed in 1999, and I *did* find a '99 36 Classic advertised on the 'net. It basically looks just like the original. I don't know if they were continued after 1999. Eisboch |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 06:53:22 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"FishWisher" wrote in message roups.com... I think 20 years of producing the same model of my 22' C-Dory must rank up there pretty high. Just wondering... anyone know of a longer production run for a recreational power boat? Dale www.FishWisher.com How about 37 years (or thereabouts)? I know they're not powerboats but ... The Hobie Cat 14 started production in 1968 and the Hobie Cat 16 in 1969. Both models are still in production today, though the 14 only by Hobie Europe. Over 108,000 Hobie 16's have been built. Steve |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
On Aug 18, 12:56 pm, FishWisher wrote:
I think 20 years of producing the same model of my 22' C-Dory must rank up there pretty high. Just wondering... anyone know of a longer production run for a recreational power boat? Dalewww.FishWisher.com Maybe not as many, but Brockways were made in Old Saybrook CT by three generations of Brockways. Earle who passed in 1996 was estimated to have made about 2000 of these, his father and his grandfather both built these skiffs since the very early 1900's. All three worked primarily solo on the banks of the CT River. I will try to find some articles I have, it is a real interesting story. |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
Steve wrote:
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 06:53:22 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "FishWisher" wrote in message oups.com... I think 20 years of producing the same model of my 22' C-Dory must rank up there pretty high. Just wondering... anyone know of a longer production run for a recreational power boat? Dale www.FishWisher.com How about 37 years (or thereabouts)? I know they're not powerboats but ... The Hobie Cat 14 started production in 1968 and the Hobie Cat 16 in 1969. Both models are still in production today, though the 14 only by Hobie Europe. Over 108,000 Hobie 16's have been built. Steve That pales in comparison to the Sunfish (1952 to current), if you're throwing sailboats into the mix. They eclipsed the 500,000 number several years ago. Rob |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
trainfan1 wrote:
Steve wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 06:53:22 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "FishWisher" wrote in message oups.com... I think 20 years of producing the same model of my 22' C-Dory must rank up there pretty high. Just wondering... anyone know of a longer production run for a recreational power boat? Dale www.FishWisher.com How about 37 years (or thereabouts)? I know they're not powerboats but ... The Hobie Cat 14 started production in 1968 and the Hobie Cat 16 in 1969. Both models are still in production today, though the 14 only by Hobie Europe. Over 108,000 Hobie 16's have been built. Steve That pales in comparison to the Sunfish (1952 to current), if you're throwing sailboats into the mix. They eclipsed the 500,000 number several years ago. Rob Amesbury Dories by Stur-dee. Same models in continuous production since 1947. Original wood dories used to make mold for today's fiberglass dories. That's 60 years. Same boats, same company, same ownership. |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
"HK" wrote in message . .. trainfan1 wrote: Steve wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 06:53:22 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "FishWisher" wrote in message oups.com... I think 20 years of producing the same model of my 22' C-Dory must rank up there pretty high. Just wondering... anyone know of a longer production run for a recreational power boat? Dale www.FishWisher.com How about 37 years (or thereabouts)? I know they're not powerboats but ... The Hobie Cat 14 started production in 1968 and the Hobie Cat 16 in 1969. Both models are still in production today, though the 14 only by Hobie Europe. Over 108,000 Hobie 16's have been built. Steve That pales in comparison to the Sunfish (1952 to current), if you're throwing sailboats into the mix. They eclipsed the 500,000 number several years ago. Rob Amesbury Dories by Stur-dee. Same models in continuous production since 1947. Original wood dories used to make mold for today's fiberglass dories. That's 60 years. Same boats, same company, same ownership. Different people made them, but the El Toro sail boat is probably one of the longest running designs. Was designed by a guy at Richmond Yacht Club in Richmond, Calif in the early 1940's. Met the designers daughter a couple of years ago, but can not remember her name. Was designed during the war and used a couple of pieces of 4x8 plywood to build it. Even the fiberglass versions look the same. |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
On Aug 20, 10:31 am, HK wrote:
trainfan1 wrote: Steve wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 06:53:22 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "FishWisher" wrote in message egroups.com... I think 20 years of producing the same model of my 22' C-Dory must rank up there pretty high. Just wondering... anyone know of a longer production run for a recreational power boat? Dale www.FishWisher.com How about 37 years (or thereabouts)? I know they're not powerboats but ... The Hobie Cat 14 started production in 1968 and the Hobie Cat 16 in 1969. Both models are still in production today, though the 14 only by Hobie Europe. Over 108,000 Hobie 16's have been built. Steve That pales in comparison to the Sunfish (1952 to current), if you're throwing sailboats into the mix. They eclipsed the 500,000 number several years ago. Rob Amesbury Dories by Stur-dee. Same models in continuous production since 1947. Original wood dories used to make mold for today's fiberglass dories. That's 60 years. Same boats, same company, same ownership.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Brockway went along for about 80 years iirc. |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
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What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... http://www.essexheritage.org/sites/l...oat_shop.shtml Eisboch D'oh! You beat me to the punch! http://www.doryshop.com/ |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: http://www.essexheritage.org/sites/l...oat_shop.shtml Eisboch I wonder if the tens of thousands who have gone to sea in Lowell's dories and skiffs know that because of their low transoms, the boats are far too dangerous to use on unprotected waterways such as lake lanier. Those that didn't survive aren't here to tell us. :-) Eisboch |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: http://www.essexheritage.org/sites/l...oat_shop.shtml Eisboch I wonder if the tens of thousands who have gone to sea in Lowell's dories and skiffs know that because of their low transoms, the boats are far too dangerous to use on unprotected waterways such as lake lanier. Those that didn't survive aren't here to tell us. :-) Eisboch Gee, is that true for every style of boat? We'll never know. BTW .... I am seriously considering the purchase of a new, small (very) boat. I've seen several of the new Boston Whaler 13' "Sport" boats around with the Merc 40 hp 4 stroke and it kinda has caught my attention for limited, harbor only use. And, oh-my-god, it has an *open* transom! Eisboch |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:53:20 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote: Eisboch wrote: http://www.essexheritage.org/sites/l...oat_shop.shtml Eisboch I wonder if the tens of thousands who have gone to sea in Lowell's dories and skiffs know that because of their low transoms, the boats are far too dangerous to use on unprotected waterways such as lake lanier. Another name change? -- John H |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Nice boat...have you seen the zodiac projet 350? I just looked at them ... but I am not a big inflatable fan. Plus, I really like the idea of a quiet, 4 stroke rather than an oil burning, noisy 2 stroke. I've been acoustically observing all the different outboards this summer when I am docked at the slip from my vantage point on the bow of the GB. The new, big 2 stroke Mercs and ETECs are certainly quieter than their older technology predecessors, but nothing beats the 4 stroke Yamahas, Mercs and Suzuki's in terms of being quiet. The 2 stroke Mercs and ETECs sound ..... weird. I think the Yamaha 4 strokes are the quietest. I am curious as to the manufacturer of the little Merc 40, four stroke. It must be a rebadged something. Eisboch |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Nice boat...have you seen the zodiac projet 350? I just looked at them ... but I am not a big inflatable fan. Plus, I really like the idea of a quiet, 4 stroke rather than an oil burning, noisy 2 stroke. I've been acoustically observing all the different outboards this summer when I am docked at the slip from my vantage point on the bow of the GB. The new, big 2 stroke Mercs and ETECs are certainly quieter than their older technology predecessors, but nothing beats the 4 stroke Yamahas, Mercs and Suzuki's in terms of being quiet. The 2 stroke Mercs and ETECs sound .... weird. I think the Yamaha 4 strokes are the quietest. I am curious as to the manufacturer of the little Merc 40, four stroke. It must be a rebadged something. Eisboch I seem to recall hearing that 40 ~ 60 HP four strokes were co-developed with Yamaha and manufactured by Merc. Also, they are going to the new Merc factory in China! |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
"D.Duck" wrote in message ... I seem to recall hearing that 40 ~ 60 HP four strokes were co-developed with Yamaha and manufactured by Merc. Also, they are going to the new Merc factory in China! Oh no! Lead in the paint. |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
Harry Krause wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "D.Duck" wrote in message ... I seem to recall hearing that 40 ~ 60 HP four strokes were co-developed with Yamaha and manufactured by Merc. Also, they are going to the new Merc factory in China! Oh no! Lead in the paint. Ah, corporate think. Fire 1000 American workers making a semi-decent living so you can give the work to 10000 Chinese workers making five cents an hour. And, the union pension funds will still invest in that US company because it return will increase the union guys retirement. |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:38:41 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
I've seen several of the new Boston Whaler 13' "Sport" boats around with the Merc 40 hp 4 stroke and it kinda has caught my attention for limited, harbor only use. And, oh-my-god, it has an *open* transom! That's to let the water out... :-) The magic of level flotation at work. |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:30:13 -0400, trainfan1
wrote: Steve wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 06:53:22 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "FishWisher" wrote in message oups.com... I think 20 years of producing the same model of my 22' C-Dory must rank up there pretty high. Just wondering... anyone know of a longer production run for a recreational power boat? Dale www.FishWisher.com How about 37 years (or thereabouts)? I know they're not powerboats but ... The Hobie Cat 14 started production in 1968 and the Hobie Cat 16 in 1969. Both models are still in production today, though the 14 only by Hobie Europe. Over 108,000 Hobie 16's have been built. Steve That pales in comparison to the Sunfish (1952 to current), if you're throwing sailboats into the mix. They eclipsed the 500,000 number several years ago. Ugh, I guess I blocked the Sunfish from my mind after a horrible experience sailing one. If you're going to go the cheap, small sailing dingy route I'd much rather have something like a Laser, even though there's only about 190,000 of them around. I did look up Sunfish on wiki and it said they had a major change in the design (changed the rudder attachment) in 1973. So the current Sunfish design is not as old as the Hobie 14 or 16. Steve |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
Steve wrote:
a major change in the design (changed the rudder attachment) in 1973. So the current Sunfish design is not as old as the Hobie 14 or 16. I'm not so sure improving one piece of hardware should be considered "major". The hull is the same, the rudder is the same, as well as the sail, centerboard, and rigging. The Class Association still lets them all race against each other no matter the age. The change just prevents the rudder from kicking up so easily, IIRC. Hobie has made a number of improvements on their boats as well. Nothing major, just minor little changes. I think practically all boats have done that. Rick |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
Steve wrote:
...I did look up Sunfish on wiki and it said they had a major change in the design (changed the rudder attachment) in 1973. So the current Sunfish design is not as old as the Hobie 14 or 16. Steve Changing the brass escutcheons & hardware on the rudder to stainless hardware is hardly a major difference. The part that touches the water is the same. The hull drain plugs were changed from brass to plated at that time too. A more significant change I would say was the addition of the cockpit storage and the change from a cast bailer venturi to plastic. It still didn't change the boat at all. The hull now has a rolled sealed edge instead of the old chrome lip trim at the seam. Still the same boat. Rob |
What's the record for longest production of a boat model?
D.Duck wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Nice boat...have you seen the zodiac projet 350? I just looked at them ... but I am not a big inflatable fan. Plus, I really like the idea of a quiet, 4 stroke rather than an oil burning, noisy 2 stroke. I've been acoustically observing all the different outboards this summer when I am docked at the slip from my vantage point on the bow of the GB. The new, big 2 stroke Mercs and ETECs are certainly quieter than their older technology predecessors, but nothing beats the 4 stroke Yamahas, Mercs and Suzuki's in terms of being quiet. The 2 stroke Mercs and ETECs sound .... weird. I think the Yamaha 4 strokes are the quietest. I am curious as to the manufacturer of the little Merc 40, four stroke. It must be a rebadged something. Eisboch I seem to recall hearing that 40 ~ 60 HP four strokes were co-developed with Yamaha and manufactured by Merc. Also, they are going to the new Merc factory in China! I have a 60 four stroke merc thats two years old on a pontoon boat. I do not beleive it was co-developed. I beleive merc had a contract with Yamaha to supply powerheads that they installed on merc legs. At one time Yamaha tried to get out of it. But the courts said they had to honor their agreement. But that time was up either this or last year. Capt Jack R.. |
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