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quizno mouse August 10th 07 01:54 PM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
I am new to boating and I always get confused with portside and
starboard or the red and green nav lights position and direction.
Is there an easy trick or rule of thumb one can use to always remember
these ?

Thanks for the help


JoeSpareBedroom August 10th 07 01:57 PM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
"quizno mouse" wrote in message
oups.com...
I am new to boating and I always get confused with portside and
starboard or the red and green nav lights position and direction.
Is there an easy trick or rule of thumb one can use to always remember
these ?

Thanks for the help


Just remember to remember. Seriously.....



[email protected] August 10th 07 01:58 PM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
On Aug 10, 8:54 am, quizno mouse wrote:
I am new to boating and I always get confused with portside and
starboard or the red and green nav lights position and direction.
Is there an easy trick or rule of thumb one can use to always remember
these ?

Thanks for the help


Port has less letters than starboard, left has less letters than
right. Port is left, right starboard.

If you are traveling in a river and looking at the bouys to stay in
the lane, remember to keep the Red bouys, on the right side of your
boat, while returning up river. So remember red, right, return... HTH


jamesgangnc August 10th 07 02:07 PM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
When you are out at night it's easy to look at your own lights to remind you
which one is on which side.

"quizno mouse" wrote in message
oups.com...
I am new to boating and I always get confused with portside and
starboard or the red and green nav lights position and direction.
Is there an easy trick or rule of thumb one can use to always remember
these ?

Thanks for the help




[email protected] August 10th 07 02:59 PM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
On Aug 10, 9:47 am, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Is there an easy trick or rule of thumb one can use to always remember
these ?


Thanks for the help


Port has less letters than starboard, left has less letters than
right. Port is left, right starboard.


If you are traveling in a river and looking at the bouys to stay in
the lane, remember to keep the Red bouys, on the right side of your
boat, while returning up river. So remember red, right, return... HTH


Puleeeze..... attend a USPS school or the like.




Puleeeze?? Do you really talk like that? Anyway, if you read his
question, he asked for an "easy trick, or rule of thumb", I think I
gave the best answer to "his" question so far. And as far a a USPS
school, I am somewhat confused. But I have taken my required boaing
courses, and have completed all the requirements for my operators
licence, in fact I aced the test. If you have more training, or don't
consider my states requirements good enough, change the law, God bless
you, I boat in the river and local lakes, I have most of the
information I need, nobody knows everything.

Now you have agitated me, I wipe out your sig file sir, and I usually
leave it ;)


Reginald P. Smithers III August 10th 07 03:06 PM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:47 am, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Is there an easy trick or rule of thumb one can use to always remember
these ?
Thanks for the help
Port has less letters than starboard, left has less letters than
right. Port is left, right starboard.
If you are traveling in a river and looking at the bouys to stay in
the lane, remember to keep the Red bouys, on the right side of your
boat, while returning up river. So remember red, right, return... HTH

Puleeeze..... attend a USPS school or the like.




Puleeeze?? Do you really talk like that? Anyway, if you read his
question, he asked for an "easy trick, or rule of thumb", I think I
gave the best answer to "his" question so far. And as far a a USPS
school, I am somewhat confused. But I have taken my required boaing
courses, and have completed all the requirements for my operators
licence, in fact I aced the test. If you have more training, or don't
consider my states requirements good enough, change the law, God bless
you, I boat in the river and local lakes, I have most of the
information I need, nobody knows everything.

Now you have agitated me, I wipe out your sig file sir, and I usually
leave it ;)


Just,
The OP was discussing the NAV lights on his boat, not Nav Markers. The
Port light on a boat is red, the Starboard Light on a boat is green, so
when you see a green light on your port side, the boat is going to cross
your path. If you see a red light on your starboard side, the boat will
cross your path.

[email protected] August 10th 07 03:16 PM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
On Aug 10, 10:06 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:


Just,
The OP was discussing the NAV lights on his boat, not Nav Markers.


I thought so too, but he also asked about direction, so I figured I
would add a quick tip there too just in case. He being a new boater
might not know what he is or really needs to ask.

The
Port light on a boat is red, the Starboard Light on a boat is green, so
when you see a green light on your port side, the boat is going to cross
your path. If you see a red light on your starboard side, the boat will
cross your path.- -


Someone posted this link the other day:
http://www.boatsafe.com/flash/reviewlights.html
I am going to study till I know it, going to make my kids do it too.

Anyway, I hope in the long run, the guy gets the "tip" he needs.



Wayne.B August 10th 07 03:26 PM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:47:20 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Puleeeze..... attend a USPS school or the like. The above information
is correct, but incomplete. This can get horribly confusing when
navigating from a primary channel into a secondary channel or vice
versa.

Don't venture out without a chart.


Excellent advice.

That said, here's a few memory aids:

"Port wine red" - the red nav light is on the port (left) side.

"Red right returning and left leaving" - channel buoys (normally when
entering a harbor)

"Red light stop" - the boat you are observing has the right of way
because it is approaching from your starboard (right) side.

To a beginner the use of port and starboard terminology may seem like
an unnecessary complexity but it is not. The port side of the boat is
always the same regardless of which way you are facing at the time.
For example, if you say the "left side" that is ambiguous to someone
who is facing backwards, and you are facing forwards.

HK August 10th 07 03:28 PM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
wrote:
On Aug 10, 10:06 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Just,
The OP was discussing the NAV lights on his boat, not Nav Markers.


I thought so too, but he also asked about direction, so I figured I
would add a quick tip there too just in case. He being a new boater
might not know what he is or really needs to ask.

The
Port light on a boat is red, the Starboard Light on a boat is green, so
when you see a green light on your port side, the boat is going to cross
your path. If you see a red light on your starboard side, the boat will
cross your path.- -


Someone posted this link the other day:
http://www.boatsafe.com/flash/reviewlights.html
I am going to study till I know it, going to make my kids do it too.

Anyway, I hope in the long run, the guy gets the "tip" he needs.




Let's see. I'm heading north. I look to my left, or port, side, and I
see another boat's lights. Actually I see its green nav light. So,
according to Reggie Retardo, the other boat is going to cross my path.

Except the other boat is on a course parallel to mine, and is heading in
the same direction.

Now, I'm a few miles upstream. The other boat is far behind. I see a red
nav light on my starboard side. According to Reggie Retardo, the boat
will cross my path.

Except the other boat is on a course parallel to mine, and is heading in
the same direction.

Whoops.


Short Wave Sportfishing August 10th 07 04:19 PM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 05:54:11 -0700, quizno mouse
wrote:

I am new to boating and I always get confused with portside and
starboard or the red and green nav lights position and direction.
Is there an easy trick or rule of thumb one can use to always remember
these ?


As a newbie, you will come to recognise it as time goes by. The
menomic of "red, right, return" is what causes the confusion.

I tell newbies who really want to remember it is to put two small
stickers on the console or windshield - red labeled port, green
labeled starboard.

Eventually you won't need the stickers anymore.

As to direction, there are a couple of ways to determine what
direction a boat is approaching you based on the lights. If you only
see red and white, then the boat will be to your left. If you only
see green and white, then the boat will be to your right.

If you see only a white light, that means you are behind a vessel.

If you see red and green and white, you are in deep doo doo. :)

There are a number of training programs around the web - boat/us has
one I believe that will give you a hand.

Wayne.B August 10th 07 04:51 PM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:19:06 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I tell newbies who really want to remember it is to put two small
stickers on the console or windshield - red labeled port, green
labeled starboard.

Eventually you won't need the stickers anymore.


Heh, you'd think so wouldn't you.

I have put customized red and green labels on my engines and fuel
manifold valves in the engine room because it is just too darned easy
to get your mind turned around down there. When switching filters and
tanks I always stop and look, helps to prevent embarassing
"incidents".

[email protected] August 10th 07 04:52 PM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
On Aug 10, 11:35 am, Gene Kearns
wrote:
my answer was NOT directed at
you, but meant to build on your post..... which *was* good.

I responded with the picture in my mind, from earlier this week.... of
a largish cuddy cabin boat (manufacturer deleted to prevent flame
wars) hard aground. I'll never forget the looks on the two guys' faces
as they surveyed both their plight and how other boaters seemed to be
violating the rule.

I'm sure, these guys were navigating using the red-right-return
system. Navigation, sans chart, using this system, where primary and
secondary channels are concerned, almost guarantees this result. Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

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[email protected] August 10th 07 04:56 PM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
On Aug 10, 11:51 am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:19:06 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
I tell newbies who really want to remember it is to put two small
stickers on the console or windshield - red labeled port, green
labeled starboard.


Eventually you won't need the stickers anymore.


Heh, you'd think so wouldn't you.

I have put customized red and green labels on my engines and fuel
manifold valves in the engine room because it is just too darned easy
to get your mind turned around down there. When switching filters and
tanks I always stop and look, helps to prevent embarassing
"incidents".


I am similar with my battery hookups. I look at the colors and
markings, and then I feel the positive and negative stamp on the top
of the terminal or battery casing. Of course I do a lot of things like
that by habit, my eyesight is real bad, even with glasses.


[email protected] August 10th 07 06:10 PM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
If you only
see red and white, then the boat will be to your left. If you only
see green and white, then the boat will be to your right.


Other way.... (Typo-transposition?)

Rick

Short Wave Sportfishing August 10th 07 09:00 PM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:10:58 -0500, lid wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
If you only
see red and white, then the boat will be to your left. If you only
see green and white, then the boat will be to your right.


Other way.... (Typo-transposition?)


I assumed thta given an illustration, the original poster could
extrapolate other situations.

[email protected] August 10th 07 10:26 PM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
Short Wave:
If you only
see red and white, then the boat will be to your left. If you only
see green and white, then the boat will be to your right.


Phantman:
Other way.... (Typo-transposition?)


Short Wave:
I assumed thta given an illustration, the original poster could
extrapolate other situations.


I must have missed something. I assumed we were talking about lesson
#1, the top of the learning priority list for a newbie, basic
collision avoidance in a crossing situation.

Rick



Maynard G. Krebbs August 11th 07 01:54 AM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 05:54:11 -0700, quizno mouse
wrote:

I am new to boating and I always get confused with portside and
starboard or the red and green nav lights position and direction.
Is there an easy trick or rule of thumb one can use to always remember
these ?

Thanks for the help


I remember it as the opposite of the "Red, Right Returning" Bouy
system.
Mark E. Williams.
Sounds stupid but that's how I remember it.

HK August 11th 07 02:01 AM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
Maynard G. Krebbs wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 05:54:11 -0700, quizno mouse
wrote:

I am new to boating and I always get confused with portside and
starboard or the red and green nav lights position and direction.
Is there an easy trick or rule of thumb one can use to always remember
these ?

Thanks for the help


I remember it as the opposite of the "Red, Right Returning" Bouy
system.
Mark E. Williams.
Sounds stupid but that's how I remember it.



Everyone learns Red Right Returning.

[email protected] August 11th 07 02:12 AM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
On Aug 10, 9:01 pm, HK wrote:
Maynard G. Krebbs wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 05:54:11 -0700, quizno mouse
wrote:


I am new to boating and I always get confused with portside and
starboard or the red and green nav lights position and direction.
Is there an easy trick or rule of thumb one can use to always remember
these ?


Thanks for the help


I remember it as the opposite of the "Red, Right Returning" Bouy
system.
Mark E. Williams.
Sounds stupid but that's how I remember it.


Everyone learns Red Right Returning.


Like I said, on the boat I use the letters method

left, port, red all have less letters than right, starboard, green,

But I think it was WB? that noted the colored tape method, I plan to
do that too near the bow with tape or paint, maybe even on the center
thwart. A stupid word by the way. Why can't I say seat? Cause it's not
a seat kid. Justwaitafrekinminute here


HK August 11th 07 02:16 AM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:01 pm, HK wrote:
Maynard G. Krebbs wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 05:54:11 -0700, quizno mouse
wrote:
I am new to boating and I always get confused with portside and
starboard or the red and green nav lights position and direction.
Is there an easy trick or rule of thumb one can use to always remember
these ?
Thanks for the help
I remember it as the opposite of the "Red, Right Returning" Bouy
system.
Mark E. Williams.
Sounds stupid but that's how I remember it.

Everyone learns Red Right Returning.


Like I said, on the boat I use the letters method

left, port, red all have less letters than right, starboard, green,

But I think it was WB? that noted the colored tape method, I plan to
do that too near the bow with tape or paint, maybe even on the center
thwart. A stupid word by the way. Why can't I say seat? Cause it's not
a seat kid. Justwaitafrekinminute here



But what do you call it if it is not running athwart? :}

CalifBill August 11th 07 02:29 AM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Aug 10, 10:06 am, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Just,
The OP was discussing the NAV lights on his boat, not Nav Markers.


I thought so too, but he also asked about direction, so I figured I
would add a quick tip there too just in case. He being a new boater
might not know what he is or really needs to ask.

The
Port light on a boat is red, the Starboard Light on a boat is green, so
when you see a green light on your port side, the boat is going to cross
your path. If you see a red light on your starboard side, the boat will
cross your path.- -


Someone posted this link the other day:
http://www.boatsafe.com/flash/reviewlights.html
I am going to study till I know it, going to make my kids do it too.

Anyway, I hope in the long run, the guy gets the "tip" he needs.




Let's see. I'm heading north. I look to my left, or port, side, and I see
another boat's lights. Actually I see its green nav light. So, according
to Reggie Retardo, the other boat is going to cross my path.

Except the other boat is on a course parallel to mine, and is heading in
the same direction.

Now, I'm a few miles upstream. The other boat is far behind. I see a red
nav light on my starboard side. According to Reggie Retardo, the boat will
cross my path.

Except the other boat is on a course parallel to mine, and is heading in
the same direction.

Whoops.


Yup whoops. Whoops you can not read. He specified bouys.



[email protected] August 11th 07 02:41 AM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
On Aug 10, 9:16 pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:01 pm, HK wrote:
Maynard G. Krebbs wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 05:54:11 -0700, quizno mouse
wrote:
I am new to boating and I always get confused with portside and
starboard or the red and green nav lights position and direction.
Is there an easy trick or rule of thumb one can use to always remember
these ?
Thanks for the help
I remember it as the opposite of the "Red, Right Returning" Bouy
system.
Mark E. Williams.
Sounds stupid but that's how I remember it.
Everyone learns Red Right Returning.


Like I said, on the boat I use the letters method


left, port, red all have less letters than right, starboard, green,


But I think it was WB? that noted the colored tape method, I plan to
do that too near the bow with tape or paint, maybe even on the center
thwart. A stupid word by the way. Why can't I say seat? Cause it's not
a seat kid. Justwaitafrekinminute here


But what do you call it if it is not running athwart? :}- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Interestingly enough, in a design by Phil Bolger I have here, the
place you put your butt runs fore and aft, and in the drawings, Bolger
calls it a thwart. Payson, (AKA Dynamite Payson) in his description of
the build calls it a seat :O
I just call it sit, and point my finger... I fish a lot with my dog;)


quizno mouse August 12th 07 02:12 AM

Any tricks to remember Nav lights position...?
 
On Aug 10, 8:58 am, wrote:
On Aug 10, 8:54 am, quizno mouse wrote:

I am new to boating and I always get confused with portside and
starboard or the red and green nav lights position and direction.
Is there an easy trick or rule of thumb one can use to always remember
these ?


Thanks for the help


Port has less letters than starboard, left has less letters than
right. Port is left, right starboard.

If you are traveling in a river and looking at the bouys to stay in
the lane, remember to keep the Red bouys, on the right side of your
boat, while returning up river. So remember red, right, return... HTH


Now that's a neat little trick Thanks HTH.

I took boating courses in French and they had a trick similar using
the word Battery ( batterie in French)
Left for BAT and right for TERY ( in French Port is Babord and
Starboard is Tribord) so the word Bat-Terie came in pretty handy)
usefull trick for anyone sailing in the french isles,
The Port red and green Starboard is already anchored in my mind Thanks
guys!!!

Don



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