And we shall call you...
 

http://tinyurl.com/3xjjtx


The hand on the right belongs to the graphics guy who is applying the
decals. Still has to add the colors, of course.

And we shall call you...
 

On Aug 8, 11:32 am, HK wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/3xjjtx

The hand on the right belongs to the graphics guy who is applying the
decals. Still has to add the colors, of course.

Yup, I like it.

And we shall call you...
 

wrote:
On Aug 8, 11:32 am, HK wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/3xjjtx

The hand on the right belongs to the graphics guy who is applying the
decals. Still has to add the colors, of course.

Yup, I like it.



Thanks!

It was 98F out at the boatyard today, and I was surprised to see the
graphics guy there.

For a 21-footer, the boat seems enormous to me. She was sitting on one
of the dealer's trailers.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...2007-08-08.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...2007-08-08.jpg

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Harry, does the new engine normally come with no prop?

And we shall call you...
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Aug 8, 11:32 am, HK wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/3xjjtx

The hand on the right belongs to the graphics guy who is applying the
decals. Still has to add the colors, of course.

Yup, I like it.



Thanks!

It was 98F out at the boatyard today, and I was surprised to see the
graphics guy there.

For a 21-footer, the boat seems enormous to me. She was sitting on one of
the dealer's trailers.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...2007-08-08.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...2007-08-08.jpg


It's very white.

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Tim wrote:
Harry, does the new engine normally come with no prop?



Yup. My invoice lists the boat and its accessories from Parker and a
separate listing for other items, such as a prop. The showroom floor
price of the boat, though, includes the prop.

I actually had not seen this exact model "on the hard." The dealer has a
couple of 21-footers in his showroom, but they're the shallower vee
models and have less freeboard, too. Our new boat has the same hull as
the 2120 pilothouse model. A lot of the guys who buy these 21-foot
Parker center consoles prefer the semi-vees so they can more easily fish
the flats up north.

Here's a better shot of the stern. Note the little "pad" at the bottom
of the vee...

http://tinyurl.com/2tvej7

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HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
Harry, does the new engine normally come with no prop?



Yup. My invoice lists the boat and its accessories from Parker and a
separate listing for other items, such as a prop. The showroom floor
price of the boat, though, includes the prop.....

Here's a better shot of the stern. Note the little "pad" at the bottom
of the vee...

http://tinyurl.com/2tvej7

COOL!

About the prop, Honestly I didn't know. seeing I've never purchased a
new boat or engine. I thought it was odd that there wouldn't be a
"standard" prop to come with the new engine.


I can further understand the hull design now.

THANKS!

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Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:32:02 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


http://tinyurl.com/3xjjtx


The hand on the right belongs to the graphics guy who is applying the
decals. Still has to add the colors, of course.

Looking good....! Man! That is a really GREAT looking boat in the
background.... what is THAT!



It's one of those...you know, I've seen a few around, but I just cannot
remember the brand name. Uncle Grady? GradyFish? Something like that.

And we shall call you...
 

On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:13:51 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:32:02 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


http://tinyurl.com/3xjjtx


The hand on the right belongs to the graphics guy who is applying the
decals. Still has to add the colors, of course.

Looking good....! Man! That is a really GREAT looking boat in the
background.... what is THAT!

It's one of those...you know, I've seen a few around, but I just cannot
remember the brand name. Uncle Grady? GradyFish? Something like that.

You mean that boat that looks like somebody with no style or class
designed a hull and put a box on top of it?

Shady White - something like that.

And we shall call you...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:13:51 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:32:02 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


http://tinyurl.com/3xjjtx


The hand on the right belongs to the graphics guy who is applying the
decals. Still has to add the colors, of course.
Looking good....! Man! That is a really GREAT looking boat in the
background.... what is THAT!
It's one of those...you know, I've seen a few around, but I just cannot
remember the brand name. Uncle Grady? GradyFish? Something like that.

You mean that boat that looks like somebody with no style or class
designed a hull and put a box on top of it?

Shady White - something like that.

That's it: ShadyWhite!

BTW, it got to 103F today. I stopped at the dealer's again on the way to
the airport and saw the finished name decal. But it was too hot, and I
never even got out of my air conditioned car to take a photo!

103F. I'm glad we're not in a midst of global warming.

And we shall call you...
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:13:51 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:32:02 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


http://tinyurl.com/3xjjtx


The hand on the right belongs to the graphics guy who is applying the
decals. Still has to add the colors, of course.
Looking good....! Man! That is a really GREAT looking boat in the
background.... what is THAT!
It's one of those...you know, I've seen a few around, but I just cannot
remember the brand name. Uncle Grady? GradyFish? Something like that.

You mean that boat that looks like somebody with no style or class
designed a hull and put a box on top of it?

Shady White - something like that.

That's it: ShadyWhite!

BTW, it got to 103F today. I stopped at the dealer's again on the way to
the airport and saw the finished name decal. But it was too hot, and I
never even got out of my air conditioned car to take a photo!

103F. I'm glad we're not in a midst of global warming.

Walked a 500,000 ft2 building today, warehouse and factory.......only the
small office areas were AC'd. I must have lost 5 pounds of water, none of
which evaporated but clinged to my forehead, shirt and trousers. Dew point
over 75% and temps at 90F.

I could not wait to get into my car and crank up the AC.

In weather like this you have to feel for folks working in factories,
warehouses, on roofs, on roads and other construction jobs.

I collected garbage for the city for 2 summers while in high school. I know
I was in better shape then but I still don't remember this type of heat and
humidity.

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On Aug 8, 7:22 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:13:51 -0400, HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:32:02 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

http://tinyurl.com/3xjjtx

The hand on the right belongs to the graphics guy who is applying the
decals. Still has to add the colors, of course.

Looking good....! Man! That is a really GREAT looking boat in the
background.... what is THAT!

It's one of those...you know, I've seen a few around, but I just cannot
remember the brand name. Uncle Grady? GradyFish? Something like that.

You mean that boat that looks like somebody with no style or class
designed a hull and put a box on top of it?

Shady White - something like that.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I thougth that was done by "Farker"

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On Aug 8, 7:32 pm, HK wrote:

.. But it was too hot, and I
never even got out of my air conditioned car to take a photo!

103F. I'm glad we're not in a midst of global warming.- Hide quoted text -

Aww harry, I was out in this stuff all day today.... came home, took
a shower and put on a light but long sleeved shirt, Mrs likes to keep
the house at 75 D.

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On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:32:31 -0400, HK wrote:

103F. I'm glad we're not in a midst of global warming.

You need some A/C on that boat.

Maybe you could get Parker to design a pilot house model.

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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:13:51 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:32:02 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

http://tinyurl.com/3xjjtx


The hand on the right belongs to the graphics guy who is applying the
decals. Still has to add the colors, of course.
Looking good....! Man! That is a really GREAT looking boat in the
background.... what is THAT!
It's one of those...you know, I've seen a few around, but I just cannot
remember the brand name. Uncle Grady? GradyFish? Something like that.
You mean that boat that looks like somebody with no style or class
designed a hull and put a box on top of it?

Shady White - something like that.
That's it: ShadyWhite!

BTW, it got to 103F today. I stopped at the dealer's again on the way to
the airport and saw the finished name decal. But it was too hot, and I
never even got out of my air conditioned car to take a photo!

103F. I'm glad we're not in a midst of global warming.

Walked a 500,000 ft2 building today, warehouse and factory.......only the
small office areas were AC'd. I must have lost 5 pounds of water, none of
which evaporated but clinged to my forehead, shirt and trousers. Dew point
over 75% and temps at 90F.

I could not wait to get into my car and crank up the AC.

In weather like this you have to feel for folks working in factories,
warehouses, on roofs, on roads and other construction jobs.

I collected garbage for the city for 2 summers while in high school. I know
I was in better shape then but I still don't remember this type of heat and
humidity.




One of my summer jobs during college vacations was cleaning out old
steam and fire tube boilers. You climbed inside...and of course the
boilers were outside on a railway dock. Sheesh.

Best summer job was loading trucks at Hulls Export Beer. The company
kept a cold keg out on the dock for us grunts.

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:32:31 -0400, HK wrote:

103F. I'm glad we're not in a midst of global warming.

You need some A/C on that boat.

Maybe you could get Parker to design a pilot house model.


Now there's an idea...
There are some parkers in Florida with rooftop AC units. They run off a
honda gasoline genny in the cockpit.

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On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:57:17 -0400, HK wrote:

There are some parkers in Florida with rooftop AC units. They run off a
honda gasoline genny in the cockpit.

A few but not too many. I mostly see the pilot house Parkers in cold
weather climes. Cockpit gensets are inherently dangerous.
Unfortunately I'm seeing more sailboats and small power cruisers with
them.

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:13:51 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:32:02 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


http://tinyurl.com/3xjjtx


The hand on the right belongs to the graphics guy who is applying the
decals. Still has to add the colors, of course.

Looking good....! Man! That is a really GREAT looking boat in the
background.... what is THAT!

It's one of those...you know, I've seen a few around, but I just cannot
remember the brand name. Uncle Grady? GradyFish? Something like that.

You mean that boat that looks like somebody with no style or class
designed a hull and put a box on top of it?

Shady White - something like that.

Grady White? Is that a foreign language that translates to "Wow, we sure
like this boat and price it that way also, sucker!".

And we shall call you...
 

On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:32:31 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:13:51 -0400, HK wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:32:02 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


http://tinyurl.com/3xjjtx


The hand on the right belongs to the graphics guy who is applying the
decals. Still has to add the colors, of course.
Looking good....! Man! That is a really GREAT looking boat in the
background.... what is THAT!
It's one of those...you know, I've seen a few around, but I just cannot
remember the brand name. Uncle Grady? GradyFish? Something like that.

You mean that boat that looks like somebody with no style or class
designed a hull and put a box on top of it?

Shady White - something like that.

That's it: ShadyWhite!

BTW, it got to 103F today. I stopped at the dealer's again on the way to
the airport and saw the finished name decal. But it was too hot, and I
never even got out of my air conditioned car to take a photo!

103F. I'm glad we're not in a midst of global warming.

I wonder what they said back when it hit 106 in D.C.?
--
John H

And we shall call you...
 

HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
Harry, does the new engine normally come with no prop?



Yup. My invoice lists the boat and its accessories from Parker and a
separate listing for other items, such as a prop. The showroom floor
price of the boat, though, includes the prop.

I actually had not seen this exact model "on the hard." The dealer has a
couple of 21-footers in his showroom, but they're the shallower vee
models and have less freeboard, too. Our new boat has the same hull as
the 2120 pilothouse model. A lot of the guys who buy these 21-foot
Parker center consoles prefer the semi-vees so they can more easily fish
the flats up north.

Here's a better shot of the stern. Note the little "pad" at the bottom
of the vee...

http://tinyurl.com/2tvej7

I just doubled checked the transom where they have cut out for the
engine mount. Is this normal on CC to have it completely open like
that? It does seem like it would be a very wet boat, not only when you
have a following sea, but when you come off of plane, and the wake
collapses and comes rushing up against the transom.

And we shall call you...
 

On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:47:43 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
Harry, does the new engine normally come with no prop?



Yup. My invoice lists the boat and its accessories from Parker and a
separate listing for other items, such as a prop. The showroom floor
price of the boat, though, includes the prop.

I actually had not seen this exact model "on the hard." The dealer has a
couple of 21-footers in his showroom, but they're the shallower vee
models and have less freeboard, too. Our new boat has the same hull as
the 2120 pilothouse model. A lot of the guys who buy these 21-foot
Parker center consoles prefer the semi-vees so they can more easily fish
the flats up north.

Here's a better shot of the stern. Note the little "pad" at the bottom
of the vee...

http://tinyurl.com/2tvej7

I just doubled checked the transom where they have cut out for the
engine mount. Is this normal on CC to have it completely open like
that?

There are designs that incorporate a sliding baffle (I'm sorry - I
can' t think of the name so I'm doing the best I can) type door that
enclose the cockpit. You just remove the door to access the engine,
bring a fish aboard, etc.

Most guys I've run with leave it open on the theory that it will drain
the boat quicker if they get caught in heavy wave action. They
replace the door/baffle/whatever in a following sea.

It's not a design I care for.


It does seem like it would be a very wet boat, not only when you
have a following sea, but when you come off of plane, and the wake
collapses and comes rushing up against the transom.

Not really. By the time you are off plane, assuming you just dropped
off plane which is something I never do anyway, the stern has long
since stopped being pushed down and forward. Very little water enters
that way.

But again, not a design I care for.

And we shall call you...
 

On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:47:43 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
Harry, does the new engine normally come with no prop?



Yup. My invoice lists the boat and its accessories from Parker and a
separate listing for other items, such as a prop. The showroom floor
price of the boat, though, includes the prop.

I actually had not seen this exact model "on the hard." The dealer has a
couple of 21-footers in his showroom, but they're the shallower vee
models and have less freeboard, too. Our new boat has the same hull as
the 2120 pilothouse model. A lot of the guys who buy these 21-foot
Parker center consoles prefer the semi-vees so they can more easily fish
the flats up north.

Here's a better shot of the stern. Note the little "pad" at the bottom
of the vee...

http://tinyurl.com/2tvej7

I just doubled checked the transom where they have cut out for the
engine mount. Is this normal on CC to have it completely open like
that? It does seem like it would be a very wet boat, not only when you
have a following sea, but when you come off of plane, and the wake
collapses and comes rushing up against the transom.

That's why the feet you can see in the earlier picture were enclosed in
sandals. It appears that the scuppers are about three inches below the
cutout. As they are at deck level, I'd guess Harry's 10 inches is what he
told girls he had.
--
John H

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:47:43 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

HK wrote:
Tim wrote:
Harry, does the new engine normally come with no prop?


Yup. My invoice lists the boat and its accessories from Parker and a
separate listing for other items, such as a prop. The showroom floor
price of the boat, though, includes the prop.

I actually had not seen this exact model "on the hard." The dealer has a
couple of 21-footers in his showroom, but they're the shallower vee
models and have less freeboard, too. Our new boat has the same hull as
the 2120 pilothouse model. A lot of the guys who buy these 21-foot
Parker center consoles prefer the semi-vees so they can more easily fish
the flats up north.

Here's a better shot of the stern. Note the little "pad" at the bottom
of the vee...

http://tinyurl.com/2tvej7
I just doubled checked the transom where they have cut out for the
engine mount. Is this normal on CC to have it completely open like
that?

There are designs that incorporate a sliding baffle (I'm sorry - I
can' t think of the name so I'm doing the best I can) type door that
enclose the cockpit. You just remove the door to access the engine,
bring a fish aboard, etc.

Most guys I've run with leave it open on the theory that it will drain
the boat quicker if they get caught in heavy wave action. They
replace the door/baffle/whatever in a following sea.

It's not a design I care for.


It does seem like it would be a very wet boat, not only when you
have a following sea, but when you come off of plane, and the wake
collapses and comes rushing up against the transom.

Not really. By the time you are off plane, assuming you just dropped
off plane which is something I never do anyway, the stern has long
since stopped being pushed down and forward. Very little water enters
that way.

But again, not a design I care for.


It's about 4.75" from the waterline to the center of the scuppers, and
another 4" from the center of the scuppers to the transom cut out. If
you look closely at the photo I posted, you'll see a round bronze drain
below the port scupper. That's the livewell drain. It is above the
waterline.

I used to fish miles offshore in a 12' Amesbury dory with a 7-1/2 hp
Evinrude. That boat had a 15" transom and of course, no splashwell. In
fact, it wasn't self-draining, either, unless you were on plane and
opened the drain plug from the inside.

It's kinda funny to read the commentary of the high and dry posters
worrying about a little water in an open sal****er fishing boat. I don't
think you're really fishing in the ocean unless you've got a little
water in the boat, along with bait, fish blood and guts, empty drink
cans, and chunks of chum. My concern in the ocean is, if I take a
greenie over the bow, how fast can I get the water out of there. It's a
bit easier with a transom cutout.

Remember those great old Makos with the transom cut out two inches above
the waterline?

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Remember those great old Makos with the transom cut out two inches above
the waterline?

And waddabout those yankee lobsta boats with no transom. Take a slide on the
deck of those babys and you could end up in the wake.
Jim


--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

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Jim wrote:

Remember those great old Makos with the transom cut out two inches
above the waterline?

And waddabout those yankee lobsta boats with no transom. Take a slide on
the deck of those babys and you could end up in the wake.
Jim



Indeed, there are lots of commercial fishing boats with totally open
transoms and not much freeboard at the stern. I guess the designers of
those boats should have paid more attention to rec.boat's well-known
naval architect and drylander, Reggie Retardo.

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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:19:20 -0400, HK wrote:

I used to fish miles offshore in a 12' Amesbury dory with a 7-1/2 hp
Evinrude. That boat had a 15" transom and of course, no splashwell. In
fact, it wasn't self-draining, either, unless you were on plane and
opened the drain plug from the inside.

My Dad had a 18' lobster boat with a center well that was based on the
Amesbury dory.

That was an amazingly dry boat, but when we shipped water for one
reason or another, put the boat on plane and pull the plug. :)

HAH!! The good old days.

And we shall call you...
 

On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 17:35:41 -0400, "Jim" wrote:


Remember those great old Makos with the transom cut out two inches above
the waterline?

And waddabout those yankee lobsta boats with no transom. Take a slide on the
deck of those babys and you could end up in the wake.

I've seen that happen.

And we shall call you...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:19:20 -0400, HK wrote:

I used to fish miles offshore in a 12' Amesbury dory with a 7-1/2 hp
Evinrude. That boat had a 15" transom and of course, no splashwell. In
fact, it wasn't self-draining, either, unless you were on plane and
opened the drain plug from the inside.

My Dad had a 18' lobster boat with a center well that was based on the
Amesbury dory.

That was an amazingly dry boat, but when we shipped water for one
reason or another, put the boat on plane and pull the plug. :)

HAH!! The good old days.


But...weren't you worried about getting your feet wet?

And we shall call you...
 

On Aug 9, 5:41 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:19:20 -0400, HK wrote:
I used to fish miles offshore in a 12' Amesbury dory with a 7-1/2 hp
Evinrude. That boat had a 15" transom and of course, no splashwell. In
fact, it wasn't self-draining, either, unless you were on plane and
opened the drain plug from the inside.

My Dad had a 18' lobster boat with a center well that was based on the
Amesbury dory.

That was an amazingly dry boat, but when we shipped water for one
reason or another, put the boat on plane and pull the plug. :)

HAH!! The good old days.

You got the shop, you should build one;)