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On Aug 6, 9:31 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 01:22:15 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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John, pay close attention:
Sometimes Doug, you are a real ass.
I'm just trying..................
And you succeeded.
See?

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Well, I gotta' follow Wayne. I decided to do a profile read and see if
you ever post on topic, anywhere, and you basically don't.


Hey, if you are looking for non-boating losers who post nothing of value
here, add herring, "reggie," dan, and a couple of the other turds
floating in the holding tank.


Harry,
I normally spend more time boating in one season, then you do in 4 years
of your Parker.

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On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 22:57:25 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

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On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 18:01:30 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

Chevy Silverado v. Toyota Tundra v. Ford F-150

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zShwG...33643p1%2Ehtml

http://tinyurl.com/24exwz

FORD RULES!!!

WHOO HOO!!!

Anybody with a socket wrench and five minutes could easily reverse the
outcome
of that dummied up test.

When Ford's start regularly going 200,000+ miles without anything besides
minor
routine maintenance, please let me know. That is NOT their present
reputation.

What exactly does pickup box bounce indicate, anyway? Maybe Ford needs to
do
some homework. It may be an advantage for the mighty oak tree to sway in
the
wind, rather than standing firm and breaking. Most competent engineers
know
that.

I don't think so. That Tundra was looking like it was going to come
apart...

I know which one I want when I am hauling my 1500lb of boat on a Canadian
road... F150. Seen to many dead Dodges, I guess they didn't test them. I
did with the doors... so I went Ford. This makes a big difference when you
hit some washboard road....

An interesting video on pickup truck box bounce
 

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On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:27:02 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

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Anybody with a socket wrench and five minutes could easily reverse the
outcome
of that dummied up test.

When Ford's start regularly going 200,000+ miles without anything
besides
minor
routine maintenance, please let me know. That is NOT their present
reputation.

What exactly does pickup box bounce indicate, anyway? Maybe Ford needs
to
do
some homework. It may be an advantage for the mighty oak tree to sway
in
the
wind, rather than standing firm and breaking. Most competent engineers
know
that.

You must be a Tundra owner. ;-)

Of course he is - it's pretty obvious.

He'd rather pay $47,000 for a Tundra that will shake it'self apart
than a Ford which at $34,000 won't.

Heh, heh, heh...

You are wrong on all counts. I don't own a Tundra. However Fords do not
have a
very good reputation for living a long life without major repairs. They
are
crap, plain and simple. Is the Toyota perfect? Far from it. It's still a
hell of
a lot better than any current Ford. To compare them for quality is
laughable.

Really laughable. Total cost of ownership from beginning to end of usable
life
makes the Toyota half the price of the Ford or better. You are a sucker
for
initial low price. PT Barnum knew all about you..



We own a Toyota Highlander and could not be happier with it. Does that
mean the Tundra is of equal quality? Hmm.......

I will be purchasing a pickup in the near future and have narrowed my
choice to the three that were tested in the link I orignally provided. I
am not a Dodge or Nissan fan.

I thought the bed stability test was a good example of the finish quality
between these 3 trucks and was a start for me to compare the 3. Whether
or not a simple tightening of nuts with a socket wrench can fix the
problem highlighted by the test is debatable at this point..........the
main point is that the trucks were tested as rolled out by the factories.

I know brand loyalty is important to some...........I am looking to move
past that.

Perhaps this thread can result in some unbiased reviews based on
experiences with the Ford F-150, Chevy Silveraldo and Toyota Tundra.

Heck, reviews of the Dodge Ram and Nissan Titan pickups are also welcome.
;-)

Having bought one last year, I tested quite a few and had no real brand
intentions. F150 was actually not on my list to start but here are my 2
cents.

Silverado, nice truck but from where I live they were featureless and
overpriced. Featureless as no creature comforts like temperature controlled
A/C. Seemed like every time I wanted something like leather -- extra...$$$.
So I set my eye on an Avalanche and liked one thing better, the cargo cover
but again too much $$$.

On to Honda Ridgeline. Looks nice, had the creature features and towing
capacity I wanted but setting the seat back I found I was reaching for the
steering wheel. And it was choppy and wandered too much over rougher roads.
I was impressed until I drove it.

I tested the Dodge 1500, was not impressed at some things, body fit,
vibrations. Plus, I have known at least 3 people to buy them and all had
transmission and one had major engine issues as well. Knowing a friend was
very happy with their 3500 Cummings, and it's warranty is impressive with an
Alison tranny, took it for a run. This would be my second or third choice
but for the cost of a Diesel. Didn't want to kick the extra 10gs.

Took a Tacoma and Tundra for a ride. Tacoma was too small inside. Tundra,
didn't like the tiny feel and thought the interior was too basic for the
price.

Didn't test the Nissan Titan, after my 1995 Pathfinder I suspect they are
over rated. I didn't look as the price tag just seemed to high. The dealer
quoted a price in the diesel range of Ford and Dodge but without the diesel
and features.

I then looked at a Ford Ranger, my wife though small was better. Loved it
except for head/leg room was marginal and for towing capacity it was only
just over what I needed. A nice "small" truck. Since we were there, we
took a F150 out. Got hooked right there. But they didn't have the Lariat
in the color I wanted. So I looked around, as I don't buy vehicles unseen.

Got a call a month later, plus a discount and "family" plan I got a real
good deal. I then took it for a test drive and bounced a curb (no damage).
It took it real well. I returned to the dealership and said "mark that one
as sold".

My only regrets is perhaps I should have looked closer at F250, F350 or
perhaps a Dodge 3500/Cummings. But I am very happy with my F150. Has the
features I like, serves me well and I have had it in places where few trucks
will go, let alone get out. Have had no problems with it.

But don't go by just this or others. I would suggest first you figure out
first why are you are buying a truck? Some things to consider:

1) Are you towing? I recommend getting a truck rated TWICE what your
planning to pull. Why you need for a fifth wheel and what you need for
"city" delivery of appliances are two different beasts. This way you won't
wobble overloaded or puffing up a hill at 25mph. Don't overload it! But no
need for buying more too much more power/options than you need either.

2) Is this a "city" vehicle of a "country" vehicle? If it is for use in the
city only, or your always on flat paved roads in Florida with little snow a
4x4 is of little value and is just something else to break. But if your
pulling up a boat on a 30% grade of gravel/mud or doing backwoods BC in the
winter a good 4x4 is essential.

3) How many miles/time are you going to spend in it? If it is a lot, get a
nice stereo/CD, temperature control, leather, cup holders etc.

4) Passenger capacity. I didn't need it, but got the full back seat option.
Comes in handy to fold up the seats and use it for storage that you can lock
stuff in as the back of the truck isn't as environmentally controlled
at -25F or 100F.

5) The condition of the roads mater. I could be wrong here but have always
favoured bigger and wider tires as the roads around where I live are the
pits (pun intended).

Where I live, it seems like 1/2 the trucks are Ford 150/250/350 with the
rest sharing the remainder. Seems like GM/Chevy and Dodge 3500 are jostling
for a distant second. I don't see cattle farmers driving Tundras, Titans,
Ridglines and smaller trucks...

Be sure to ask yourself before you buy, "why am I buying a truck and what
are others predominantly buying for the same purpose?".

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On Aug 6, 9:31 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 01:22:15 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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John, pay close attention:
Sometimes Doug, you are a real ass.
I'm just trying..................
And you succeeded.
See?

It sure beats chasing OT messages all day long.- Hide quoted text -

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Well, I gotta' follow Wayne. I decided to do a profile read and see if
you ever post on topic, anywhere, and you basically don't.


Hey, if you are looking for non-boating losers who post nothing of value
here, add herring, "reggie," dan, and a couple of the other turds
floating in the holding tank.


Ready for a bet, Krause? I know you read everything I post. You can't
help it.

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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:45:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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Virtual Plonk I will not address you anymore, not even if you decide
to make an unschedualed boating post, as I doubt you even have a
boat.



You've said that in the past, if I recall correctly. Will you keep your
promise this time?


Isn't it nice to receive the approval of Krause? That must be a thrill,
because he's usually calling me names.
--
John H


Your friend Harry is of no consequence or importance when I'm working on
you. However, you are free to continue your fantasies about him.

An interesting video on pickup truck box bounce
 

On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:45:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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Virtual Plonk I will not address you anymore, not even if you decide
to make an unschedualed boating post, as I doubt you even have a
boat.



You've said that in the past, if I recall correctly. Will you keep your
promise this time?


Isn't it nice to receive the approval of Krause? That must be a thrill,
because he's usually calling me names.
--
John H

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On Aug 6, 1:38 pm, "Canuck57" wrote:
An on topic post!!
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Well, sort of on topic for me. My 01 Blazer with 60K just left me
walking again. Somehow the ignition stuck in the start positition. I
could not put it in neutral, or park, as the starter would turn and
grind. Had to leave it in gear, put on brakes, pop hood, and had a guy
stand to the side, with the pos against a wall just in case, and
disconnect the battery. New ignition switch just this spring, I am
****ed for sure, I was going fishing tonight.. Now I gotta screw with
this pos again, I hate the frekin' thing. Give me my rusty old Jeep,
anyday.

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On Aug 6, 1:38 pm, "Canuck57" wrote:
An on topic post!!
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Well, sort of on topic for me. My 01 Blazer with 60K just left me
walking again. Somehow the ignition stuck in the start positition. I
could not put it in neutral, or park, as the starter would turn and
grind. Had to leave it in gear, put on brakes, pop hood, and had a guy
stand to the side, with the pos against a wall just in case, and
disconnect the battery. New ignition switch just this spring, I am
****ed for sure, I was going fishing tonight.. Now I gotta screw with
this pos again, I hate the frekin' thing. Give me my rusty old Jeep,
anyday.



Talking about tow vehicles is indeed *on topic*.

An interesting video on pickup truck box bounce
 

On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 23:12:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:45:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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Virtual Plonk I will not address you anymore, not even if you decide
to make an unschedualed boating post, as I doubt you even have a
boat.



You've said that in the past, if I recall correctly. Will you keep your
promise this time?


Isn't it nice to receive the approval of Krause? That must be a thrill,
because he's usually calling me names.
--
John H


Your friend Harry is of no consequence or importance when I'm working on
you. However, you are free to continue your fantasies about him.


And here I assumed your posts were simply to gain his approval. For what
else could they be worth?

How's the crop doing this year?
--
John H

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On Aug 2, 6:01 pm, "JimH" ask wrote:
Chevy Silverado v. Toyota Tundra v. Ford F-150

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zShwG...%2F%2Fwww%2Emo...

http://tinyurl.com/24exwz

Hey, does anyone have a Chilton or Mitchell for a 2001 Chevy Blazer. I
could really use a picture of the steering colum assembly. I think
there is a part broken in there (a sort of rack) and I need to know
how to get to it without getting my head blown off by the airbag! And
before anyone yells at me, I will not start without a map, and I have
the right tools as I am a retired GM tech. Just never worked around an
airbag, makin' me a little nervous. But if you got a manual, a
scanner, and a little spare time, please emil me at
justwaitafrekinminute at gmai...........com