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[email protected] July 27th 07 09:44 PM

Okay boaters, fess up.....
 
On Jul 27, 11:42 am, Chuck Gould wrote:
I'm writing a short item this morning about hand held bearing
compasses.

I carry one on my boat, and could find it in an instant. I suspect,
however, that in this age of electro-nav gimmicks I'm now in the
minority.

Three questions:

1. Do you carry a bearing compass?


Yes, I have one on my little boat, admittedly, I would probably not if
it were not given to me.

2. Whether you carry one or not, do you know why anybody would want
to?


In my case, it comes from my old hiking/camping days. I feel like if I
know which direction is north, I can find my way out of almost
anywhere. On land with a compass and a topo map, I could find my way
in too!


3. Do you have any charts aboard, or are you running depending
strictly on an uninterrupted supply of DC power and counting on 100%
reliability from your electronics for navigation information?


Mechanical compass. Has a light, and I have it on a dedicated circuit,
but can be used without power.



Don White July 27th 07 09:50 PM

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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:52:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
roups.com...
I'm writing a short item this morning about hand held bearing
compasses.

I carry one on my boat, and could find it in an instant. I suspect,
however, that in this age of electro-nav gimmicks I'm now in the
minority.

Three questions:

1. Do you carry a bearing compass?


A/ Certainly...

2. Whether you carry one or not, do you know why anybody would want
to?

B/ navigation... taking relative bearings to local landmarks to pinpoint
my
position on a chart

3. Do you have any charts aboard, or are you running depending
strictly on an uninterrupted supply of DC power and counting on 100%
reliability from your electronics for navigation information?


C/ Yes... have charts. older GPS used as backup.

What's with the A/,B/,C/?
I thought compasses had NSEW.
Some kind of nav chart notation?
I plan to learn to read charts, but you're scaring me here.

--Vic


No...nothing so complicated...
Chuck labeled his questions 1, 2, & 3......so I labeled my answers A/, B/, &
C/



JimH July 27th 07 09:56 PM

Okay boaters, fess up.....
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:52:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
groups.com...
I'm writing a short item this morning about hand held bearing
compasses.

I carry one on my boat, and could find it in an instant. I suspect,
however, that in this age of electro-nav gimmicks I'm now in the
minority.

Three questions:

1. Do you carry a bearing compass?

A/ Certainly...

2. Whether you carry one or not, do you know why anybody would want
to?
B/ navigation... taking relative bearings to local landmarks to pinpoint
my
position on a chart

3. Do you have any charts aboard, or are you running depending
strictly on an uninterrupted supply of DC power and counting on 100%
reliability from your electronics for navigation information?

C/ Yes... have charts. older GPS used as backup.

What's with the A/,B/,C/?
I thought compasses had NSEW.
Some kind of nav chart notation?
I plan to learn to read charts, but you're scaring me here.

--Vic


No...nothing so complicated...
Chuck labeled his questions 1, 2, & 3......so I labeled my answers A/, B/,
& C/


You Canucks always have to complicate things.



Vic Smith July 27th 07 10:12 PM

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On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:50:02 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:52:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
groups.com...
I'm writing a short item this morning about hand held bearing
compasses.

I carry one on my boat, and could find it in an instant. I suspect,
however, that in this age of electro-nav gimmicks I'm now in the
minority.

Three questions:

1. Do you carry a bearing compass?

A/ Certainly...

2. Whether you carry one or not, do you know why anybody would want
to?
B/ navigation... taking relative bearings to local landmarks to pinpoint
my
position on a chart

3. Do you have any charts aboard, or are you running depending
strictly on an uninterrupted supply of DC power and counting on 100%
reliability from your electronics for navigation information?

C/ Yes... have charts. older GPS used as backup.

What's with the A/,B/,C/?
I thought compasses had NSEW.
Some kind of nav chart notation?
I plan to learn to read charts, but you're scaring me here.

--Vic


No...nothing so complicated...
Chuck labeled his questions 1, 2, & 3......so I labeled my answers A/, B/, &
C/

..it get I now, Okay

--Vic

Short Wave Sportfishing July 27th 07 10:12 PM

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On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:39:36 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I plan to learn to read charts, but you're scaring me here.


If you want to edumacate youself on it, here is a great book:

Piloting & Dead Reckoning - Shufeldt/Dunlap/Bauer, Fourth Edition.

Tell you everything you wanted to know and then some.

You might also want to pick up a copy of Chart No. 1.

Chuck Gould July 27th 07 10:13 PM

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On Jul 27, 12:29?pm, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 08:42:12 -0700, Chuck Gould

wrote:
I'm writing a short item this morning about hand held bearing
compasses.


I carry one on my boat, and could find it in an instant. I suspect,
however, that in this age of electro-nav gimmicks I'm now in the
minority.


Three questions:


1. Do you carry a bearing compass?


I have a compass mounted in the boat. I do not have a hand held.


The advantage of a hand held vs using the permanently mounted compass
is the ability to sight across the handheld and get a bearing on
charted buoy, beacon, point of land, etc. That's pretty hard to do
accurately with the permanent mount compass, and if you're off 15-20
degrees in the bearing you might as well almost not bother.

To be properly equipped, IMO, you should have both aboard. Unless you
are on a small or uncharted body of water like an inland lake or you
have intimate local knowledge.




2. Whether you carry one or not, do you know why anybody would want
to?


If their boat is sinking and they have to man a life raft, it could come in
handy. Or, if someone angrily smashed their laptop on the mounted compass,
a hand held could come in handy.



And.....if the electro-nav goes out and a boater can get a bearing on
at least two (three would be better) charted objects it then becomes
possible to draw some plot lines on the chart and determine where
you're at. :-)




3. Do you have any charts aboard, or are you running depending
strictly on an uninterrupted supply of DC power and counting on 100%
reliability from your electronics for navigation information?




Yes, charts are aboard for any area in which I may roam.



Good show! Welcome to the annual anachronist's convention, I'm sitting
in the next row back. :-)


--
John H




HK July 27th 07 10:21 PM

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Chuck Gould wrote:
I'm writing a short item this morning about hand held bearing
compasses.

I carry one on my boat, and could find it in an instant. I suspect,
however, that in this age of electro-nav gimmicks I'm now in the
minority.

Three questions:

1. Do you carry a bearing compass?

2. Whether you carry one or not, do you know why anybody would want
to?

3. Do you have any charts aboard, or are you running depending
strictly on an uninterrupted supply of DC power and counting on 100%
reliability from your electronics for navigation information?


1. Yes, I do.
2. Certainly.
3. Yes, I have a chartbook aboard.

Vic Smith July 27th 07 10:35 PM

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On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:12:55 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:39:36 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I plan to learn to read charts, but you're scaring me here.


If you want to edumacate youself on it, here is a great book:

Piloting & Dead Reckoning - Shufeldt/Dunlap/Bauer, Fourth Edition.

Tell you everything you wanted to know and then some.

You might also want to pick up a copy of Chart No. 1.


Thanks. Order is in to Phineas Fogg, bookseller in OR.
4th Ed., very good condition. I'll order Chart 1 shortly.
You may have mentioned this to me before, so I didn't
want to let it go again.

--Vic

Vic Smith July 27th 07 11:24 PM

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On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:35:30 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:12:55 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:39:36 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I plan to learn to read charts, but you're scaring me here.


If you want to edumacate youself on it, here is a great book:

Piloting & Dead Reckoning - Shufeldt/Dunlap/Bauer, Fourth Edition.

Tell you everything you wanted to know and then some.

You might also want to pick up a copy of Chart No. 1.


Thanks. Order is in to Phineas Fogg, bookseller in OR.
4th Ed., very good condition. I'll order Chart 1 shortly.
You may have mentioned this to me before, so I didn't
want to let it go again.

Thanks. Ordered "Chapman Nautical Chart No. 1: The Essential Guide to
Chart Reading and Navigation." Got this one new.
Soon I'll be a sailor, er, boater again. Or maybe just a reader.

--Vic

Dan July 27th 07 11:56 PM

Okay boaters, fess up.....
 
Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:52:39 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
I'm writing a short item this morning about hand held bearing
compasses.

I carry one on my boat, and could find it in an instant. I suspect,
however, that in this age of electro-nav gimmicks I'm now in the
minority.

Three questions:

1. Do you carry a bearing compass?

A/ Certainly...
2. Whether you carry one or not, do you know why anybody would want
to?

B/ navigation... taking relative bearings to local landmarks to pinpoint my
position on a chart
3. Do you have any charts aboard, or are you running depending
strictly on an uninterrupted supply of DC power and counting on 100%
reliability from your electronics for navigation information?

C/ Yes... have charts. older GPS used as backup.

What's with the A/,B/,C/?
I thought compasses had NSEW.
Some kind of nav chart notation?
I plan to learn to read charts, but you're scaring me here.

--Vic


FYI - You're replying to a moron.


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