Rec.boats members and lurkers
 

As some of you may know, I have taken a step back from the ol' "wrecked.boats"
NG, and became a lurker.

I know I can't speak for some, but, there are a bunch of members who don't
frequent the NG as much as they used to. They don't even lurk anymore. A
bunch of us have exchanged email addresses and instead of posting on the NG, we
simply email each other. It's sad how so much OT political B.S. and flame-wars
can ruin a good NG.

So if you are wondering "where is so-and-so", now you know. Everyone is still
around, they are just tired of the direction this NG has ventured, and no
desire to post here.

If you want to bash me for being off-topic, then I'll beat you to the punch and
make this on-topic. I went boating on Sunday and had a great time. I love
hitching up my new/used 2000 Chevy Silverado to my old 1975 Sea Star 17' I/O.
An old red/white trihull being pulled by a full size red pickup truck. What a
match! Anyway, I caught an 11" striper on Lake Anna, VA and had to throw it
back because the regs say "over 15 inches in length". Oh well. I'll tell you
what, the old 165hp Mercruiser inline 6 doesn't troll too good. I wish I could
figure a way to put a trolling motor on it. My fishing buddy and I decided to
put on some deep diving rappala crankbaits and try to go trolling down the main
channel of the lake. Even at idle, the 165hp inline 6 was going just a hair
too fast to troll. Our fishing rods were really bending down. But we did it.
When I felt the yank from the striper, I shifted to neutral and cut the engine,
and reeled him in.

Has anyone heard of mounting a trolling motor on an old I/O? Could it be done?

Butch Ammon

Rec.boats members and lurkers
 

"Butch Ammon" wrote in message
...
As some of you may know, I have taken a step back from the ol'
"wrecked.boats"
NG, and became a lurker.

I know I can't speak for some, but, there are a bunch of members who don't
frequent the NG as much as they used to. They don't even lurk anymore. A
bunch of us have exchanged email addresses and instead of posting on the
NG, we
simply email each other. It's sad how so much OT political B.S. and
flame-wars
can ruin a good NG.

The ratio is no more than 1 in 10 headers are OT, even in the worst times.
Skippy has either gone to heaven or Alaska and Harry is busy boating.

Perhaps it's just your newsreader that needs adjustment. Tune out the OT
stuff and you're in rec.boats heaven, no?

Rec.boats members and lurkers
 

On 26 Aug 2003 17:06:33 GMT, 123 (Butch Ammon) wrote:

[snip]

So if you are wondering "where is so-and-so", now you know. Everyone is still
around, they are just tired of the direction this NG has ventured, and no
desire to post here.

If you want to bash me for being off-topic, then I'll beat you to the punch and
make this on-topic.

SHAME on you. SHAME! You are ruining a perfectly good political newsgroup with
this kind of meaningless talk about...boats.

What were you THINKING??!?

Look at the name of the newsgroup. Do you see "boats" in the title? Huh? Do
you? Of COURSE not--this newsgroup is rec uh...rec...

Rec *boats*? Jeez.

Never mind.

Joe Parsons

Rec.boats members and lurkers
 

On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:23:15 -0700, "jps" wrote:

"Butch Ammon" wrote in message
...
As some of you may know, I have taken a step back from the ol'
"wrecked.boats"
NG, and became a lurker.

I know I can't speak for some, but, there are a bunch of members who don't
frequent the NG as much as they used to. They don't even lurk anymore. A
bunch of us have exchanged email addresses and instead of posting on the
NG, we
simply email each other. It's sad how so much OT political B.S. and
flame-wars
can ruin a good NG.

The ratio is no more than 1 in 10 headers are OT, even in the worst times.
Skippy has either gone to heaven or Alaska and Harry is busy boating.

Perhaps it's just your newsreader that needs adjustment. Tune out the OT
stuff and you're in rec.boats heaven, no?


Problem is, many newsreaders strip out the "OT" header, as we've already
determined. And some of these increasingly acrimonious political threads
attract the kind of attention a street brawl does.

It's not like there's some shortage of newsgroups to find political topics--or
is there?

Joe Parsons

Rec.boats members and lurkers
 

Tow a 5 gallon bucket or two behind the boat. OR you can buy a drift sock
or two for a lot less money than a kicker.
Bill

"Butch Ammon" wrote in message
...
As some of you may know, I have taken a step back from the ol'
"wrecked.boats"
NG, and became a lurker.

I know I can't speak for some, but, there are a bunch of members who don't
frequent the NG as much as they used to. They don't even lurk anymore. A
bunch of us have exchanged email addresses and instead of posting on the
NG, we
simply email each other. It's sad how so much OT political B.S. and
flame-wars
can ruin a good NG.

So if you are wondering "where is so-and-so", now you know. Everyone is
still
around, they are just tired of the direction this NG has ventured, and no
desire to post here.

If you want to bash me for being off-topic, then I'll beat you to the
punch and
make this on-topic. I went boating on Sunday and had a great time. I
love
hitching up my new/used 2000 Chevy Silverado to my old 1975 Sea Star 17'
I/O.
An old red/white trihull being pulled by a full size red pickup truck.
What a
match! Anyway, I caught an 11" striper on Lake Anna, VA and had to throw
it
back because the regs say "over 15 inches in length". Oh well. I'll tell
you
what, the old 165hp Mercruiser inline 6 doesn't troll too good. I wish I
could
figure a way to put a trolling motor on it. My fishing buddy and I
decided to
put on some deep diving rappala crankbaits and try to go trolling down the
main
channel of the lake. Even at idle, the 165hp inline 6 was going just a
hair
too fast to troll. Our fishing rods were really bending down. But we did
it.
When I felt the yank from the striper, I shifted to neutral and cut the
engine,
and reeled him in.

Has anyone heard of mounting a trolling motor on an old I/O? Could it be
done?

Butch Ammon

Rec.boats members and lurkers
 

Do you have a way to mount an electric on the bow?

"Butch Ammon" wrote in message
...
As some of you may know, I have taken a step back from the ol'
"wrecked.boats"
NG, and became a lurker.

I know I can't speak for some, but, there are a bunch of members who don't
frequent the NG as much as they used to. They don't even lurk anymore. A
bunch of us have exchanged email addresses and instead of posting on the
NG, we
simply email each other. It's sad how so much OT political B.S. and
flame-wars
can ruin a good NG.

So if you are wondering "where is so-and-so", now you know. Everyone is
still
around, they are just tired of the direction this NG has ventured, and no
desire to post here.

If you want to bash me for being off-topic, then I'll beat you to the
punch and
make this on-topic. I went boating on Sunday and had a great time. I
love
hitching up my new/used 2000 Chevy Silverado to my old 1975 Sea Star 17'
I/O.
An old red/white trihull being pulled by a full size red pickup truck.
What a
match! Anyway, I caught an 11" striper on Lake Anna, VA and had to throw
it
back because the regs say "over 15 inches in length". Oh well. I'll tell
you
what, the old 165hp Mercruiser inline 6 doesn't troll too good. I wish I
could
figure a way to put a trolling motor on it. My fishing buddy and I
decided to
put on some deep diving rappala crankbaits and try to go trolling down the
main
channel of the lake. Even at idle, the 165hp inline 6 was going just a
hair
too fast to troll. Our fishing rods were really bending down. But we did
it.
When I felt the yank from the striper, I shifted to neutral and cut the
engine,
and reeled him in.

Has anyone heard of mounting a trolling motor on an old I/O? Could it be
done?

Butch Ammon

Rec.boats members and lurkers
 

I have seen it done by using a jack plate mounted thru the transom.


"Butch Ammon" wrote in message
...
As some of you may know, I have taken a step back from the ol'
"wrecked.boats"
NG, and became a lurker.

I know I can't speak for some, but, there are a bunch of members who don't
frequent the NG as much as they used to. They don't even lurk anymore. A
bunch of us have exchanged email addresses and instead of posting on the
NG, we
simply email each other. It's sad how so much OT political B.S. and
flame-wars
can ruin a good NG.

So if you are wondering "where is so-and-so", now you know. Everyone is
still
around, they are just tired of the direction this NG has ventured, and no
desire to post here.

If you want to bash me for being off-topic, then I'll beat you to the
punch and
make this on-topic. I went boating on Sunday and had a great time. I
love
hitching up my new/used 2000 Chevy Silverado to my old 1975 Sea Star 17'
I/O.
An old red/white trihull being pulled by a full size red pickup truck.
What a
match! Anyway, I caught an 11" striper on Lake Anna, VA and had to throw
it
back because the regs say "over 15 inches in length". Oh well. I'll tell
you
what, the old 165hp Mercruiser inline 6 doesn't troll too good. I wish I
could
figure a way to put a trolling motor on it. My fishing buddy and I
decided to
put on some deep diving rappala crankbaits and try to go trolling down the
main
channel of the lake. Even at idle, the 165hp inline 6 was going just a
hair
too fast to troll. Our fishing rods were really bending down. But we did
it.
When I felt the yank from the striper, I shifted to neutral and cut the
engine,
and reeled him in.

Has anyone heard of mounting a trolling motor on an old I/O? Could it be
done?

Butch Ammon

Rec.boats members and lurkers
 

"Butch Ammon" wrote in message
...
As some of you may know, I have taken a step back from the ol'
"wrecked.boats"
NG, and became a lurker.

snip
If you want to bash me for being off-topic, then I'll beat you to the
punch and
make this on-topic. I went boating on Sunday and had a great time. I
love
hitching up my new/used 2000 Chevy Silverado to my old 1975 Sea Star
17' I/O.
An old red/white trihull being pulled by a full size red pickup truck.
What a
match! Anyway, I caught an 11" striper on Lake Anna, VA and had to
throw it
back because the regs say "over 15 inches in length". Oh well. I'll
tell you
what, the old 165hp Mercruiser inline 6 doesn't troll too good. I
wish I could
figure a way to put a trolling motor on it. My fishing buddy and I
decided to
put on some deep diving rappala crankbaits and try to go trolling down
the main
channel of the lake. Even at idle, the 165hp inline 6 was going just
a hair
too fast to troll. Our fishing rods were really bending down. But we
did it.
When I felt the yank from the striper, I shifted to neutral and cut
the engine,
and reeled him in.

Has anyone heard of mounting a trolling motor on an old I/O? Could it
be done?

Butch Ammon

To mount a Minnkota powerdrive autopilot all you need is a flat area
about 8 by 12 inches.
Or use a drift sock to slow down your troll. If you are really cheap,
tie a rope to a five gallon bucket and throw it overboard. Or use two.
The drift socks are widely used and available from places like
cabelas.com

Last choice is the trolling motor that mounts to the anti ventilation
plate.. They are pretty expensive though.

Even more last choice is a kicker on a bracket on the transom.

del cecchi

Rec.boats members and lurkers
 

On 26 Aug 2003 17:06:33 GMT, 123 (Butch Ammon) wrote:

As some of you may know, I have taken a step back from the ol' "wrecked.boats"
NG, and became a lurker.

Hi, Butch! I haven't been on here much either......too busy.

Stop by the dock in Charleston at 7:30. We're putting new 350AH golf
cart MONSTERS into the battery racks of my buddy's 85 Amel Sharpi
ketch I helped him bring back from Satellite Beach, FL, a few weeks
ago. My newly installed HF/VHF/Autopilot/Radar/gyro-compass/computer
was too much for the "boat batteries" with holes in the plates...(c;

Help us put 'em in. Wear OLD CLOTHES..(c;



Larry W4CSC

Maybe we could get the power grid fixed if every politician
regulating the power companies wasn't on their payrolls.

Rec.boats members and lurkers
 

Butch,

I understand, but it still sucks that a lot of good folks back
away as a result of the morons posting political threads in a
boating newsgroup, not to ention that competant folks get bashed
by the clueless. Fortunately, some really good folks have endured
and still keep tabs on things. I'll still keep tabs on this group
and learn what I can and help when I can, but I wouldn't mind being
on that distribution list!

I too got a chance to do some fishing this weekend. I brought a
friend and his family to the coast to 'play'. The only fishing we
did was from the surf and caught several whiting. We crabbed and
shrimped at my brother's dock. On the last night, my friend made
egg rolls with the fresh shrimp and crab we caught. Now that
was a treat! This guy is vietnamese and knows how to cook, so when
he suggested he wanted to do this, my mouth began to water. Don't
know if you've ever eaten vietnamese food, but I put it at the top
of the list!

As far as your question on the trolling motor, the units that
mount on the outboard itself above the cavitation plate seem to be
the cats meow, but are a bit pricey. I know there is a trolling
plate but can't remember what it's called. It partially blocks
the flow behind the prop. However, if I remember correctly, you'll
trash it of you forget to lift it before applying real power. What
the previous owner of my boat did (because he didn't like the foot
operated trolling motor) was to add an adjustable trolling motor
bracket. I haven't used it yet but it seems pretty cool. I too
have a tri-hull, but it isn't open bow. You can remove the bracket
and just leave the base plate which is bolted to the boat and it
doesn't take much space at all. I think the 3 sq inches is correct.
This way, you can remove it when not fishing. When you are fishing,
who cares what it looks like! :^) Check this link to see what I'm
talking about:
http://www.basspro-shops.com/servlet...rTarget=search



I've got to admit, Bill's idea of the five gallon bucket seems
worthwhile trying. I kind of sort of did this once when I forgot
to retrieve my bait bucket, and even though it isn't open except
for some water flow for the bait, it definitely put quite a bit of
drag on the boat. :^)

Hope this helps.

-Jim

Rec.boats members and lurkers
 

Butch,

Used to fish Lake Anna when I was stationed in DC. Not bad but the fish glowed
in the dark. :=)

I've had good luck filtering out the obvious stuff like Clinton, Bush, War,
Irag, Gun, OT, etc. Also, I pretty much know if a thread has 15 or more posts
it's probably drifted OT or become a flame war.

Re. the trolling motor. Once upon a time I saw a transom mounted electric
troller. As best I can recall there was an aluminun track attached to the
transom and the troller could be moved up or down as required for fishing or
travel. I seem to remember???? that there was a link which attached between
the anti-cavitation plate on the IO leg and the troller thus allowing steering
with the wheel. The link remained attached to the troller but fit over a male
pin on the plate via a spring loaded snap on on the end of the link???

Saw this on a boat in Deale, MD on the Chesapeake's Western Shore..... Harry's
main area, eh? It's been several years but it might be worth checking with
Cabela, etc.

If you can't find anything it should be fairly easy to invent something?

Good luck.

Butch

PS: Thought we talked about the name thing!!??

Rec.boats members and lurkers
 

"Butch Ammon" wrote
wouldn't a trolling motor look a little cheesy
mounted on the bow of an old open bow trihull?

My 77 Thunderbird open bow trihull had a trolling motor stuck on the front
when I got it. Not only did it look dorky, it made half the bow seating
useless and made it just about impossible to seal that barge like front end
from the weather. So I took it off and stuck it in the attic. If I was an
ardent enough fisherman to want to use it, I think I'd rig up something with
blind nuts, wing screws, etc so that the trolling motor could be easily
removed when not in use.

Rec.boats members and lurkers
 

"Joe Blizzard" wrote in message
...
"Butch Ammon" wrote
wouldn't a trolling motor look a little cheesy
mounted on the bow of an old open bow trihull?

My 77 Thunderbird open bow trihull had a trolling motor stuck on the
front
when I got it. Not only did it look dorky, it made half the bow
seating
useless and made it just about impossible to seal that barge like
front end
from the weather. So I took it off and stuck it in the attic. If I was
an
ardent enough fisherman to want to use it, I think I'd rig up
something with
blind nuts, wing screws, etc so that the trolling motor could be
easily
removed when not in use.


They are way ahead of you. they sell a plate that attaches to the boat
that the trolling motor mounting plate slides into and is held with one
screw.

del cecchi

Rec.boats members and lurkers
 

These days I'm often lurking when not actually boating. I rarely post anymore for
much the same reasons as Butch. But just because you don't see posts from me
doesn't mean I'm not around. I'm sure the same can be said for a lot of us "old
timers".

Larry Weiss
"...Ever After!"
"a little after"
Rarely Posting - Often Lurking

Butch Ammon wrote:

As some of you may know, I have taken a step back from the ol' "wrecked.boats"
NG, and became a lurker.

I know I can't speak for some, but, there are a bunch of members who don't
frequent the NG as much as they used to. They don't even lurk anymore. A
bunch of us have exchanged email addresses and instead of posting on the NG, we
simply email each other. It's sad how so much OT political B.S. and flame-wars
can ruin a good NG.

So if you are wondering "where is so-and-so", now you know. Everyone is still
around, they are just tired of the direction this NG has ventured, and no
desire to post here.

If you want to bash me for being off-topic, then I'll beat you to the punch and
make this on-topic. I went boating on Sunday and had a great time. I love
hitching up my new/used 2000 Chevy Silverado to my old 1975 Sea Star 17' I/O.
An old red/white trihull being pulled by a full size red pickup truck. What a
match! Anyway, I caught an 11" striper on Lake Anna, VA and had to throw it
back because the regs say "over 15 inches in length". Oh well. I'll tell you
what, the old 165hp Mercruiser inline 6 doesn't troll too good. I wish I could
figure a way to put a trolling motor on it. My fishing buddy and I decided to
put on some deep diving rappala crankbaits and try to go trolling down the main
channel of the lake. Even at idle, the 165hp inline 6 was going just a hair
too fast to troll. Our fishing rods were really bending down. But we did it.
When I felt the yank from the striper, I shifted to neutral and cut the engine,
and reeled him in.

Has anyone heard of mounting a trolling motor on an old I/O? Could it be done?

Butch Ammon

Rec.boats members and lurkers
 

"del cecchi" wrote
They are way ahead of you.

No surprises here...

Rec.boats members and lurkers
 

"Wayne.B" wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 02:24:22 GMT, Larry Weiss
wrote:
These days I'm often lurking when not actually boating. I rarely post anymore for
much the same reasons as Butch. But just because you don't see posts from me
doesn't mean I'm not around. I'm sure the same can be said for a lot of us "old
timers".
--------------------------

Did you ever decide to buy that marina Larry? Haven't seen you around
over in Oyster Bay this year. We anchor out in the cove about every
other week weather permitting.

The marina turned out have some serious issues, and it was overpriced. I understand it
is still for sale. If the owner becomes willing to drop the price *substantially*, I
may become interested again.

As far as actually boating goes, with so much miserable weather coupled with a tight
schedule and minor but annoying engine problems, we haven't had much of a boating
season. We'll be out this weekend, rain or shine, as we finally kick off the summer
season. What's that? Labor Day already? How'd that happen?

If you're around, keep an eye out for us and say hi. We'll either be anchored in the
Cove, or sitting at the Sagamore yacht Club sipping pina coladas.

Larry Weiss
"...Ever After!"
"a little after..."

Rec.boats members and lurkers
 

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 04:30:02 GMT, Larry Weiss
wrote:
If you're around, keep an eye out for us and say hi. We'll either be anchored in the
Cove, or sitting at the Sagamore yacht Club sipping pina coladas.
===================

We'll look for you, good chance we'll end up in the cove this weekend.

Rec.boats members and lurkers
 

Yo, Butch,
I saw your question about using an outboard and thought I'd tell you
about my rig. I have had a 4 HP Evinrude mounted on a 'swing up"
bracket on the swim platform for the last 10 years and it works very
well. The OB moves my 21 ft. BL along at a pretty good speed in slack
water. I''ve never tried it in a chop or current , so don't know how
well it would do there. But, it works very well for trolling on Lk. St.
Clair. Its also a nice peace of mind knowing that I can get myself back
to port if I'm not too far away.


I posted a pic of the set up some time ago for another interested
reader, but don't have it now.
Something that made my OB rig work well is the heavy aluminum bracket
that m son made up for me. One of the benefits of having a tool & die
maker in the family. If you don't have a swim platform, you could
mount a swing-up bracket directly to one side of the transom.

========
Norm

Rec.boats members and lurkers
 

On 26 Aug 2003 17:06:33 GMT, 123 (Butch Ammon) wrote:

As some of you may know, I have taken a step back from the ol' "wrecked.boats"
NG, and became a lurker.

I know I can't speak for some, but, there are a bunch of members who don't
frequent the NG as much as they used to. They don't even lurk anymore. A
bunch of us have exchanged email addresses and instead of posting on the NG, we
simply email each other. It's sad how so much OT political B.S. and flame-wars
can ruin a good NG.

So if you are wondering "where is so-and-so", now you know. Everyone is still
around, they are just tired of the direction this NG has ventured, and no
desire to post here.

If you want to bash me for being off-topic, then I'll beat you to the punch and
make this on-topic. I went boating on Sunday and had a great time. I love
hitching up my new/used 2000 Chevy Silverado to my old 1975 Sea Star 17' I/O.
An old red/white trihull being pulled by a full size red pickup truck. What a
match! Anyway, I caught an 11" striper on Lake Anna, VA and had to throw it
back because the regs say "over 15 inches in length". Oh well. I'll tell you
what, the old 165hp Mercruiser inline 6 doesn't troll too good. I wish I could
figure a way to put a trolling motor on it. My fishing buddy and I decided to
put on some deep diving rappala crankbaits and try to go trolling down the main
channel of the lake. Even at idle, the 165hp inline 6 was going just a hair
too fast to troll. Our fishing rods were really bending down. But we did it.
When I felt the yank from the striper, I shifted to neutral and cut the engine,
and reeled him in.

Has anyone heard of mounting a trolling motor on an old I/O? Could it be done?

Butch Ammon

Hi Butch-
Regarding the trolling motor, I have a 70's MFG tri-hull, very
similar to your boat. I made a "flip-up" trolling motor bracket out
of 3/4" copper tubing, and mounted it to the bow rail. It worked very
well, and cost very little to make. Let me know if you want details.

As to the OT posting, I agree with you regarding the name-calling,
inane, ego-centric posts. When I first found rec.boats, I commented
on all the OT posting, and was told "get used to it". I admit to
participating in some of the OT threads, but I try to avoid the "nasty
stuff". Unless the group voted on, and adopted, a new FAQ, things are
not likely to change. The current FAQ does not prohibit OT posting.

Glad to hear that you're enjoying your boat, and catching some fish.

Regards,
noah