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says...
jps wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:11:33 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

Are you really this determined to steer the NG back into the toilet?
Don't you understand Chuck?

We're all being held hostage by Jon - he's the Al-Qaida of rec.boats.
It's all about him and his outrage. He's gone right off the deep end.

Did you know that Jon told me one time that all Republicans should be
shot? True - I still have the email.

I tend to keep emails that amuse me. Sadly, this one might turn into
evidence at some point.

And to think - he lives out by you!!!

Watch your back dude - watch your back.

Only some Republicans should be shot. Taking our conversations out of
context is rude, but I'm coming to accept that being within your ethics.

Chuck is perfectly safe. Although he doesn't approve of my rabble
rousing, he's not a blind fool and I agree with most of what he says.

It's the mock "conservatives" who're nothing more than partisan fools
who I have the beef with. So many of these fools tried to call us
pinkos, commies, socialists, etc. for our views on the war and pointing
out the lies we were being told.

Now, after all is nearly said and done, it turns out we silly libs were
right. I want my piece of flesh for being accused of treason, being a
traitor to my country for dissent -- by many of the self righteous
assholes who still frequent this group.

So much resource squandered, our moral authority in the world a
shambles, our kids, young parents dead, maimed, psychologically damaged,
with many tens of thousands of Iraqis dead or maimed. Families
destroyed in the name of lies and hubris.

The assholes claiming we were misguided fools know who they are. I just
want a little time to rub their faces in the **** they were spewing back
when they beat their small-minded drums at a fever pitch.

jps

I think you place WAY too much importance on this group.

I place little if any importance on this group. What's important is
that these dweebs are confronted with an alternative to their little,
boxed reality.

I want to spew as much **** in their faces as I took. I'm not a turn-
the-cheek sort of guy.

If they don't want to listen, respond, acknowledge their short-sighted
stupidity, so be it.

jps

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In article . com,
says...
On Jul 12, 8:50?am, wrote:


But there is no proof of "lies and hubris", no convictions, only
anecdotal web blogs encouraged and paid for by groups like the Soros
organization, DNC, One World, ACLU, NAMBLA, and various other fringe
activist groups. But like your lies about O, no real proof, just
daydreams and made up stories...


I think we agree on something, justafreakin. It can be disastrous to
accept unproven spin as a basis for opinion, and even more disastrous
to use it as a basis for defining policy. We probably shouldn't listen
to anybody with a partisan agenda or financial interest in one version
of the truth vs. another. Any suggestions concerning where we should
turn for completely unbiased reporting devoid of partisan influence
and editorializing? I'd be at a loss to identify a single one, on any
side of the spectrum or in any medium. Looks to me like you and jps
have each chosen a different subset from the universe of biased
sources.

Holy **** Chuck, awfully magnanimous of you.

I listen, read, watch from all perspectives. I know our schtick and
theirs.

justafreakin is plugged into the narrow right wing presented by Bill O
and I suspect Rush.

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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:44:13 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

The Iraq war is far from over. The general plan is to keep the US
engaged there and elsewhere until we spend ourselves into collapse,
much like Reagan accomplished with his policies that brought down the
Soviet Union.

Bullfeathers. Pope John Paul II, Lech Walesa, advance of electronic
communications, and plain overdue failure of the commie system brought
down the Soviet Union.
Reagan accomplished nothing but the nurturing of latent dittoheads
and union busters.
You sound like Fox News and the other Reagan butt-kissers.
How's it going with the boat?

--Vic

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In article ,
says...
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:44:13 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

The Iraq war is far from over. The general plan is to keep the US
engaged there and elsewhere until we spend ourselves into collapse,
much like Reagan accomplished with his policies that brought down the
Soviet Union.

Bullfeathers. Pope John Paul II, Lech Walesa, advance of electronic
communications, and plain overdue failure of the commie system brought
down the Soviet Union.
Reagan accomplished nothing but the nurturing of latent dittoheads
and union busters.
You sound like Fox News and the other Reagan butt-kissers.

Chuck wants everyone to feel included, even if he has to kiss Reagan's
butt sometimes.

I remember Reagan fondly for trickle down economics, deregulating banks
(that cost US taxpayers a fortune) and pulling us out of Beirut. A move
that allowed militant Islamists to fester in Lebanon and spread
elsewhere.

The Gipper was a tool.

jps

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jps wrote:
In article ,
says...
jps wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:11:33 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

Are you really this determined to steer the NG back into the toilet?
Don't you understand Chuck?

We're all being held hostage by Jon - he's the Al-Qaida of rec.boats.
It's all about him and his outrage. He's gone right off the deep end.

Did you know that Jon told me one time that all Republicans should be
shot? True - I still have the email.

I tend to keep emails that amuse me. Sadly, this one might turn into
evidence at some point.

And to think - he lives out by you!!!

Watch your back dude - watch your back.
Only some Republicans should be shot. Taking our conversations out of
context is rude, but I'm coming to accept that being within your ethics.

Chuck is perfectly safe. Although he doesn't approve of my rabble
rousing, he's not a blind fool and I agree with most of what he says.

It's the mock "conservatives" who're nothing more than partisan fools
who I have the beef with. So many of these fools tried to call us
pinkos, commies, socialists, etc. for our views on the war and pointing
out the lies we were being told.

Now, after all is nearly said and done, it turns out we silly libs were
right. I want my piece of flesh for being accused of treason, being a
traitor to my country for dissent -- by many of the self righteous
assholes who still frequent this group.

So much resource squandered, our moral authority in the world a
shambles, our kids, young parents dead, maimed, psychologically damaged,
with many tens of thousands of Iraqis dead or maimed. Families
destroyed in the name of lies and hubris.

The assholes claiming we were misguided fools know who they are. I just
want a little time to rub their faces in the **** they were spewing back
when they beat their small-minded drums at a fever pitch.

jps
I think you place WAY too much importance on this group.

I place little if any importance on this group. What's important is
that these dweebs are confronted with an alternative to their little,
boxed reality.

I want to spew as much **** in their faces as I took. I'm not a turn-
the-cheek sort of guy.

If they don't want to listen, respond, acknowledge their short-sighted
stupidity, so be it.

jps

You say you don't place any importance in this group, but then you list
all of the ways this group has spewed **** in your face. You know you
are not going to change anyone's mind, they don't care if you are
calling them names or spewing ****, so why waste your breath.

All of the talk radio/TV talk show hosts are entertainers playing up to
their audience, those who love them or those who hate them. They are
not news shows, and no on in their right mind would take anything they
say as gospel. If legitimate news shows make mistakes, it is very
reasonable that entertainment talk shows will make a ton of mistakes.

It would appear that they have impacted on your life more than those who
agree with them. The "righties" who you hate, have dangled the bait and
you have bite it hook line and sinker. Now they are playing you. Why
not spit out the bait and let it rest.

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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:53:09 -0400, HK wrote:



Only some Republicans should be shot. Taking our conversations out of
context is rude, but I'm coming to accept that being within your ethics.

Chuck is perfectly safe. Although he doesn't approve of my rabble
rousing, he's not a blind fool and I agree with most of what he says.

It's the mock "conservatives" who're nothing more than partisan fools
who I have the beef with. So many of these fools tried to call us
pinkos, commies, socialists, etc. for our views on the war and pointing
out the lies we were being told.

Now, after all is nearly said and done, it turns out we silly libs were
right. I want my piece of flesh for being accused of treason, being a
traitor to my country for dissent -- by many of the self righteous
assholes who still frequent this group.

So much resource squandered, our moral authority in the world a
shambles, our kids, young parents dead, maimed, psychologically damaged,
with many tens of thousands of Iraqis dead or maimed. Families
destroyed in the name of lies and hubris.

The assholes claiming we were misguided fools know who they are. I just
want a little time to rub their faces in the **** they were spewing back
when they beat their small-minded drums at a fever pitch.

jps


Hear! Hear!

Harry! Is all this talk of 'assholes' getting you fired up again?
--
John H

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On Jul 12, 12:29 pm, jps wrote:
In article . com,
says...





On Jul 12, 8:50?am, wrote:

But there is no proof of "lies and hubris", no convictions, only
anecdotal web blogs encouraged and paid for by groups like the Soros
organization, DNC, One World, ACLU, NAMBLA, and various other fringe
activist groups. But like your lies about O, no real proof, just
daydreams and made up stories...

I think we agree on something, justafreakin. It can be disastrous to
accept unproven spin as a basis for opinion, and even more disastrous
to use it as a basis for defining policy. We probably shouldn't listen
to anybody with a partisan agenda or financial interest in one version
of the truth vs. another. Any suggestions concerning where we should
turn for completely unbiased reporting devoid of partisan influence
and editorializing? I'd be at a loss to identify a single one, on any
side of the spectrum or in any medium. Looks to me like you and jps
have each chosen a different subset from the universe of biased
sources.

Holy **** Chuck, awfully magnanimous of you.

I listen, read, watch from all perspectives. I know our schtick and
theirs.

Thats a lie, we proved that yesterday. It's kind of like the movie..
"sure, we play all kinds of music here, country AND western" ;)
Face it, you don't watch anything that will burst your little bubble.

justafreakin is plugged into the narrow right wing presented by Bill O
and I suspect Rush.-

There you go again, making it up as you go along. I don't do talk
radio, but keep saying it, maybe another fool will beleive it.

- Show quoted text -

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In article , jherring1
@yahoo.com says...
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 09:16:17 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Jul 12, 8:50?am, wrote:


But there is no proof of "lies and hubris", no convictions, only
anecdotal web blogs encouraged and paid for by groups like the Soros
organization, DNC, One World, ACLU, NAMBLA, and various other fringe
activist groups. But like your lies about O, no real proof, just
daydreams and made up stories...


I think we agree on something, justafreakin. It can be disastrous to
accept unproven spin as a basis for opinion, and even more disastrous
to use it as a basis for defining policy. We probably shouldn't listen
to anybody with a partisan agenda or financial interest in one version
of the truth vs. another. Any suggestions concerning where we should
turn for completely unbiased reporting devoid of partisan influence
and editorializing?


Yeah, Fox News. At least you'll hear two sides. And, you'll hear things
that never make the major media.

If you don't want editorializing, don't listen to O'Reilly, Hannity,
Colmes, etc. Just stick with the news. Brit Hume provides a pretty balanced
news report.

Yes, unless you listen to the complete spectrum of news. Then you
easily detect how Hume reinforces the Republican talking points of the
day.

He regularly walks people into these talking points quite adroitly.

And you don't hear two sides. You hear conservative and conservative
light.

jps

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In article , jherring1
@yahoo.com says...
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 09:20:42 -0700, jps wrote:

In article .com,
says...
On Jul 12, 10:49 am, jps wrote:
In article ,
says...





On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:11:33 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

Are you really this determined to steer the NG back into the toilet?

Don't you understand Chuck?

We're all being held hostage by Jon - he's the Al-Qaida of rec.boats.
It's all about him and his outrage. He's gone right off the deep end.

Did you know that Jon told me one time that all Republicans should be
shot? True - I still have the email.

I tend to keep emails that amuse me. Sadly, this one might turn into
evidence at some point.

And to think - he lives out by you!!!

Watch your back dude - watch your back.

Only some Republicans should be shot. Taking our conversations out of
context is rude, but I'm coming to accept that being within your ethics.

Chuck is perfectly safe. Although he doesn't approve of my rabble
rousing, he's not a blind fool and I agree with most of what he says.

It's the mock "conservatives" who're nothing more than partisan fools
who I have the beef with. So many of these fools tried to call us
pinkos, commies, socialists, etc. for our views on the war and pointing
out the lies we were being told.

Yet, you are getting fed lies and repeating them here? Whats worse is
when proven to be lies, you dismiss it and get more foul mouthed.


Now, after all is nearly said and done, it turns out we silly libs were
right. I want my piece of flesh for being accused of treason, being a
traitor to my country for dissent -- by many of the self righteous
assholes who still frequent this group.

Nothing is said and done. Even if it would fit your agenda.


So much resource squandered, our moral authority in the world a
shambles, our kids, young parents dead, maimed, psychologically damaged,
with many tens of thousands of Iraqis dead or maimed. Families
destroyed in the name of lies and hubris.

But there is no proof of "lies and hubris",

You are so far off the planet it's sad.

You didn't respond to any of the Bill O evidence I offered.

You don't want to know any better.

jps

You offered. as was stated, no evidence. Verbiage by hate mongers is not
evidence.

When did you turn into such a buffoon. Is my memory failing me?

Read the link to Bill Moyers. Do you have a problem with Moyers? Think
he's a hate monger?

Sheesh.

As for the other sites, I linked to those that don't spew bull**** but
actually refute Bill O in a reasonable way.

You obviously didn't bother to read them either. You folks just really
want to stay cocooned in your little realities.

jps

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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 09:16:17 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Jul 12, 8:50?am, wrote:


But there is no proof of "lies and hubris", no convictions, only
anecdotal web blogs encouraged and paid for by groups like the Soros
organization, DNC, One World, ACLU, NAMBLA, and various other fringe
activist groups. But like your lies about O, no real proof, just
daydreams and made up stories...


I think we agree on something, justafreakin. It can be disastrous to
accept unproven spin as a basis for opinion, and even more disastrous
to use it as a basis for defining policy. We probably shouldn't listen
to anybody with a partisan agenda or financial interest in one version
of the truth vs. another. Any suggestions concerning where we should
turn for completely unbiased reporting devoid of partisan influence
and editorializing?


Yeah, Fox News. At least you'll hear two sides. And, you'll hear things
that never make the major media.

If you don't want editorializing, don't listen to O'Reilly, Hannity,
Colmes, etc. Just stick with the news. Brit Hume provides a pretty balanced
news report.
--
John H