Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

What is the Composite Blocking List, who owns it and how exactly do
they develop their data?

And how do they prevent email from being sent and/or received?

I'm asking because I'm thinking of suing them.

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
What is the Composite Blocking List, who owns it and how exactly do
they develop their data?

And how do they prevent email from being sent and/or received?

I'm asking because I'm thinking of suing them.

What problem are you having?

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

What is the Composite Blocking List, who owns it and how exactly do
they develop their data?

I'd love to help here, as I dont know what your referring to.I just
use my spam labeller in my E-Mail thingy.....

Mr Roughwater

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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:31:48 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
What is the Composite Blocking List, who owns it and how exactly do
they develop their data?

And how do they prevent email from being sent and/or received?

I'm asking because I'm thinking of suing them.

What problem are you having?

Turns out that I was banned from sending emails for two weeks and
never knew it. And only to certian mail servers. I just found out
about it when I tried to send you an email. And I just received an
email from a group member that is two weeks old (after my ISP did a
little investigation).

Problem is that the IP that was banned isn't my IP. I have a
permanent IP that I pay through the nose for. When I called my
provider, I was told that the IP has never changed and that they don't
understand it either.

I want revenge. :)

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:31:48 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
What is the Composite Blocking List, who owns it and how exactly do
they develop their data?

And how do they prevent email from being sent and/or received?

I'm asking because I'm thinking of suing them.

What problem are you having?

Turns out that I was banned from sending emails for two weeks and
never knew it. And only to certian mail servers. I just found out
about it when I tried to send you an email. And I just received an
email from a group member that is two weeks old (after my ISP did a
little investigation).

Problem is that the IP that was banned isn't my IP. I have a
permanent IP that I pay through the nose for. When I called my
provider, I was told that the IP has never changed and that they don't
understand it either.

I want revenge. :)

http://cbl.abuseat.org/

This is the place to figure out this stuff.

First of all, you're using your real e-mail address in newsgroups. That's
insane, especially since you need it to work for your business. But, all
sorts of nasty characters harvest email addresses from newsgroup messages,
and use them for wicked purposes.

Second, if I recall, your email address was plainly posted on your site,
right? That's another way for it to be harvested. There's a better way. Have
you ever clicked "contact us" at a commercial site, and end up at a page
where you type your message, and you never see their email address? Not sure
how it's done, but I know a newsgroup where you can probably find out.

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On Jul 9, 5:01 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:31:48 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"

wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
What is the Composite Blocking List, who owns it and how exactly do
they develop their data?

And how do they prevent email from being sent and/or received?

I'm asking because I'm thinking of suing them.

What problem are you having?

Turns out that I was banned from sending emails for two weeks and
never knew it. And only to certian mail servers. I just found out
about it when I tried to send you an email. And I just received an
email from a group member that is two weeks old (after my ISP did a
little investigation).

Problem is that the IP that was banned isn't my IP. I have a
permanent IP that I pay through the nose for. When I called my
provider, I was told that the IP has never changed and that they don't
understand it either.

I want revenge. :)

Companies or organizations, or even individuals can use any blocking
service they wish and those services can block for whatever reason
they wish. In our business we deal with this all the time. Many of
them are just protection racquets, or just fronts for "reccomended"
hosting services that can "solve your problems". We have one customer
that uses a security monitor that constantly finds outdated **** to
blacklist for then follows up with a offer of their own provider.
Stupid internet customers are impressed with the self generated
"compliance" stickers they put on their sites. Either way, it is free
enterprise, you can not sue them for providing an "opinon" to paying
customers.

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:09:25 -0000,
wrote:

On Jul 9, 5:01 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:31:48 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"

wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
What is the Composite Blocking List, who owns it and how exactly do
they develop their data?

And how do they prevent email from being sent and/or received?

I'm asking because I'm thinking of suing them.

What problem are you having?

Turns out that I was banned from sending emails for two weeks and
never knew it. And only to certian mail servers. I just found out
about it when I tried to send you an email. And I just received an
email from a group member that is two weeks old (after my ISP did a
little investigation).

Problem is that the IP that was banned isn't my IP. I have a
permanent IP that I pay through the nose for. When I called my
provider, I was told that the IP has never changed and that they don't
understand it either.

I want revenge. :)

Companies or organizations, or even individuals can use any blocking
service they wish and those services can block for whatever reason
they wish. In our business we deal with this all the time. Many of
them are just protection racquets, or just fronts for "reccomended"
hosting services that can "solve your problems". We have one customer
that uses a security monitor that constantly finds outdated **** to
blacklist for then follows up with a offer of their own provider.
Stupid internet customers are impressed with the self generated
"compliance" stickers they put on their sites. Either way, it is free
enterprise, you can not sue them for providing an "opinon" to paying
customers.

I sure as hell can if they banned me for no discernable reason.

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:09:25 -0000,
wrote:

On Jul 9, 5:01 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:31:48 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"

wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
What is the Composite Blocking List, who owns it and how exactly do
they develop their data?

And how do they prevent email from being sent and/or received?

I'm asking because I'm thinking of suing them.

What problem are you having?

Turns out that I was banned from sending emails for two weeks and
never knew it. And only to certian mail servers. I just found out
about it when I tried to send you an email. And I just received an
email from a group member that is two weeks old (after my ISP did a
little investigation).

Problem is that the IP that was banned isn't my IP. I have a
permanent IP that I pay through the nose for. When I called my
provider, I was told that the IP has never changed and that they don't
understand it either.

I want revenge. :)

Companies or organizations, or even individuals can use any blocking
service they wish and those services can block for whatever reason
they wish. In our business we deal with this all the time. Many of
them are just protection racquets, or just fronts for "reccomended"
hosting services that can "solve your problems". We have one customer
that uses a security monitor that constantly finds outdated **** to
blacklist for then follows up with a offer of their own provider.
Stupid internet customers are impressed with the self generated
"compliance" stickers they put on their sites. Either way, it is free
enterprise, you can not sue them for providing an "opinon" to paying
customers.

I sure as hell can if they banned me for no discernable reason.

If you are serious, good luck being able to find a lawyer who will not laugh
you out of his office. You have no damages.

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 17:35:29 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:09:25 -0000,
wrote:

On Jul 9, 5:01 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:31:48 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"

wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
What is the Composite Blocking List, who owns it and how exactly do
they develop their data?

And how do they prevent email from being sent and/or received?

I'm asking because I'm thinking of suing them.

What problem are you having?

Turns out that I was banned from sending emails for two weeks and
never knew it. And only to certian mail servers. I just found out
about it when I tried to send you an email. And I just received an
email from a group member that is two weeks old (after my ISP did a
little investigation).

Problem is that the IP that was banned isn't my IP. I have a
permanent IP that I pay through the nose for. When I called my
provider, I was told that the IP has never changed and that they don't
understand it either.

I want revenge. :)

Companies or organizations, or even individuals can use any blocking
service they wish and those services can block for whatever reason
they wish. In our business we deal with this all the time. Many of
them are just protection racquets, or just fronts for "reccomended"
hosting services that can "solve your problems". We have one customer
that uses a security monitor that constantly finds outdated **** to
blacklist for then follows up with a offer of their own provider.
Stupid internet customers are impressed with the self generated
"compliance" stickers they put on their sites. Either way, it is free
enterprise, you can not sue them for providing an "opinon" to paying
customers.

I sure as hell can if they banned me for no discernable reason.

If you are serious, good luck being able to find a lawyer who will not laugh
you out of his office.

For starters, our legal assistance comes from an attorney that we've
known personally and professionally for over 30 years who has handled
all the legal needs faced by our family, including an adoption snafu,
and has been on retainer since I and Mrs. Wave were incorporated as an
LLC. Laugh at me? I don't think so.

You have no damages.

Where did I say I was seeking damages? I'm seeking an end to a
practice that is restrictive, false and misleading.

I didn't say anything about damages.

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 17:35:29 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:09:25 -0000,
wrote:

On Jul 9, 5:01 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:31:48 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"

wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
What is the Composite Blocking List, who owns it and how exactly do
they develop their data?

And how do they prevent email from being sent and/or received?

I'm asking because I'm thinking of suing them.

What problem are you having?

Turns out that I was banned from sending emails for two weeks and
never knew it. And only to certian mail servers. I just found out
about it when I tried to send you an email. And I just received an
email from a group member that is two weeks old (after my ISP did a
little investigation).

Problem is that the IP that was banned isn't my IP. I have a
permanent IP that I pay through the nose for. When I called my
provider, I was told that the IP has never changed and that they don't
understand it either.

I want revenge. :)

Companies or organizations, or even individuals can use any blocking
service they wish and those services can block for whatever reason
they wish. In our business we deal with this all the time. Many of
them are just protection racquets, or just fronts for "reccomended"
hosting services that can "solve your problems". We have one customer
that uses a security monitor that constantly finds outdated **** to
blacklist for then follows up with a offer of their own provider.
Stupid internet customers are impressed with the self generated
"compliance" stickers they put on their sites. Either way, it is free
enterprise, you can not sue them for providing an "opinon" to paying
customers.

I sure as hell can if they banned me for no discernable reason.

If you are serious, good luck being able to find a lawyer who will not
laugh
you out of his office.

For starters, our legal assistance comes from an attorney that we've
known personally and professionally for over 30 years who has handled
all the legal needs faced by our family, including an adoption snafu,
and has been on retainer since I and Mrs. Wave were incorporated as an
LLC. Laugh at me? I don't think so.

Bring this case in and he/she will.



You have no damages.

Where did I say I was seeking damages? I'm seeking an end to a
practice that is restrictive, false and misleading.

I didn't say anything about damages.

I know........because you did not suffer any. ;-)

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 18:06:30 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

Bring this case in and he/she will

That's what I like about you.

You are so sure of other people's motivations.

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 18:06:30 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

Bring this case in and he/she will

That's what I like about you.

You are so sure of other people's motivations.


-----------------------
Tom: Thanks for taking the time to see me. Now down to the problem. I
could not receive email for two whole weeks. I want to sue the buggers.

Attorney: ROTFLMAO! That's a good one Tom, now why did you really come in
here to see me.

---------------------

Sorry, I could not help it. ;-)

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On Jul 9, 6:22 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 18:06:30 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:
Bring this case in and he/she will

That's what I like about you.

You are so sure of other people's motivations.

The "Black Hole List" works sort of the same way. Our customers,
specially AOL users who insist on using uncontrolled auto-responders
get listed quite often. They of course blame us as the provider so we
do get involved. I think you will find that these lists protect
themselves pretty well with the services contract they give the users.
The users agree to allow e-mail, tagged by BHL to be blocked from
their service. BHL has a list of criteria that can lead to you being
blocked, the generic answer is that you have been tagged as a spammer,
but if you look at the TOS you will find that they can use a lot of
other things too. As a customer, a hosting or POP mail provider can
subscribe, subjecting their down stream users to the "service". As it
is wide open that they can put you on the list on a whim, and a
customer/provider can use the list to block IP's, and it is all by
contract and paid for by the subscribers, I don't think you can do
anything about it. If so, let me know, I would love to provide info
for your suit. We have a group of peers that have been looking at this
for almost a decade and found no way to stop them so far.

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
What is the Composite Blocking List, who owns it and how exactly do
they develop their data?

And how do they prevent email from being sent and/or received?

I'm asking because I'm thinking of suing them.

Just some guys trying to make money. The question is who is paying them.

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

JimH wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 17:35:29 -0400, "JimH" ask wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:09:25 -0000,
wrote:

On Jul 9, 5:01 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:31:48 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"

wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
What is the Composite Blocking List, who owns it and how exactly do
they develop their data?
And how do they prevent email from being sent and/or received?
I'm asking because I'm thinking of suing them.
What problem are you having?
Turns out that I was banned from sending emails for two weeks and
never knew it. And only to certian mail servers. I just found out
about it when I tried to send you an email. And I just received an
email from a group member that is two weeks old (after my ISP did a
little investigation).

Problem is that the IP that was banned isn't my IP. I have a
permanent IP that I pay through the nose for. When I called my
provider, I was told that the IP has never changed and that they don't
understand it either.

I want revenge. :)
Companies or organizations, or even individuals can use any blocking
service they wish and those services can block for whatever reason
they wish. In our business we deal with this all the time. Many of
them are just protection racquets, or just fronts for "reccomended"
hosting services that can "solve your problems". We have one customer
that uses a security monitor that constantly finds outdated **** to
blacklist for then follows up with a offer of their own provider.
Stupid internet customers are impressed with the self generated
"compliance" stickers they put on their sites. Either way, it is free
enterprise, you can not sue them for providing an "opinon" to paying
customers.
I sure as hell can if they banned me for no discernable reason.
If you are serious, good luck being able to find a lawyer who will not
laugh
you out of his office.
For starters, our legal assistance comes from an attorney that we've
known personally and professionally for over 30 years who has handled
all the legal needs faced by our family, including an adoption snafu,
and has been on retainer since I and Mrs. Wave were incorporated as an
LLC. Laugh at me? I don't think so.

Bring this case in and he/she will.


You have no damages.
Where did I say I was seeking damages? I'm seeking an end to a
practice that is restrictive, false and misleading.

I didn't say anything about damages.

I know........because you did not suffer any. ;-)

Was Tom trying to sell a boat or two? You can't prove he did not suffer
damages, however, Tom can provide evidence that he was prevented from
participating in commerce.

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

I'm in IT for a Fortune 100 company. Attorneys can always find
something to sue for, winning is a different subject all together.
Sometimes the cases that seem the most ridiculous get the most
attention and have the biggest impact. Think of the lady who sued
McD's for the hot coffee accident. Digging in deeper an attorney
would find prior to that accident there were over 600 burns resulting
from their coffee, enough to make the case serious. Additionally,
what wasn't reported was the actual amount awards to her was later
significantly reduced.

I think in this instance some kind of intent would need to be
established cause.

Anyway, on the IT side of things, this is normal. It happens to
everybody and every company at some point. Email server hiccup, one
goes down, etc. So if your IP address is static, it really doesn't
matter a whole lot. IP addresses only play a small role in email.
The bigger role is established by the email servers and information
embedded in them. Typically what will ban an IP address is the subnet
it is on. For instance, a lot of major sites and email servers are
hosted at server farms that have been assigned a range of IP
addresses, static or not. If a user in that assigned range spams
heavily it sets off red flags and any business tying into various anti-
spam software products will permanently or temporarily block all email
from a specific subnet.

I've also seen email servers sit on email while sending other messages
fine. I've watch messages sit in queue and not go anywhere for days
while other messages transact without issue.

As far as suing, I doubt it would get far. There's way to many
technical issues that would be more common than malice. My IT
division is one of the top 10 best in the entire world, and one of the
least understood things even by the most highly experienced IT
employee is email. It takes somebody who has written an email
application (I happen to have done such a thing) or somebody who
specializes in that field. Even an IT person who specialized in
managing an email server can be completely in the dark to the actual
details that go on. Now, if you talk to a Unix IT person who runs a
Unix based email server, then you have yourself somebody who
understands email.

You'd need an attorney that specialized in information technology
email transmissions, and they're aren't many especially considering
the above mentioned fact about IT experts. While I'm sure your
attorney is good, he's not as good as ours and I doubt he specializes
in this area. I bet he could argue the facts of a case, know the law,
and win, but when it comes to the painstaking details involved in this
situation there's just not enough evidence to prove much. You could
be stuck dead in the water when the information that needs to be
provided by whoever administers the servers has been tainted due to
lack of knowledge.

My opinion is, it was just a normal glitch, check the logs people
posted above otherwise and search for companies that block email.
Consider my Fortune 100 email address has been blocked before and we
couldn't do anything about it due to it being a normal error, I think
you'll be in the same boat.

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
What is the Composite Blocking List, who owns it and how exactly do
they develop their data?

And how do they prevent email from being sent and/or received?

I'm asking because I'm thinking of suing them.


This may be what you are looking for:
http://cbl.abuseat.org/

Capt Jack R..

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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:16:50 -0700, wrote:


My opinion is, it was just a normal glitch, check the logs people
posted above otherwise and search for companies that block email.
Consider my Fortune 100 email address has been blocked before and we
couldn't do anything about it due to it being a normal error, I think
you'll be in the same boat.

Thank you for a very informative post. I do have a static IP which
made the situation weirder as the reported IP that I was supposedly
posting from didn't even exist.

As to suing, I'm not going to sue anybody for something like this -
sometimes the characters here take things too seriously and it's much
too easy to poke them when they get on their high horse. :)

In any case, thanks again - very interesting information.

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 02:24:41 GMT, Jack Redington
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
What is the Composite Blocking List, who owns it and how exactly do
they develop their data?

And how do they prevent email from being sent and/or received?

I'm asking because I'm thinking of suing them.


This may be what you are looking for:
http://cbl.abuseat.org/

Thanks Jack.

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:16:50 -0700, wrote:


My opinion is, it was just a normal glitch, check the logs people
posted above otherwise and search for companies that block email.
Consider my Fortune 100 email address has been blocked before and we
couldn't do anything about it due to it being a normal error, I think
you'll be in the same boat.



As to suing, I'm not going to sue anybody for something like this -
sometimes the characters here take things too seriously and it's much
too easy to poke them when they get on their high horse. :)


" I'm asking because I'm thinking of suing them." " I'm seeking an end to
a
practice that is restrictive, false and misleading."
SWS, 7-9-07

Poke that. ;-)

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:16:50 -0700, wrote:


My opinion is, it was just a normal glitch, check the logs people
posted above otherwise and search for companies that block email.
Consider my Fortune 100 email address has been blocked before and we
couldn't do anything about it due to it being a normal error, I think
you'll be in the same boat.

Thank you for a very informative post. I do have a static IP which
made the situation weirder as the reported IP that I was supposedly
posting from didn't even exist.

As to suing, I'm not going to sue anybody for something like this -
sometimes the characters here take things too seriously and it's much
too easy to poke them when they get on their high horse. :)

In any case, thanks again - very interesting information.


Static is not the same as hidden, as you've found out.

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:15:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:16:50 -0700, wrote:


My opinion is, it was just a normal glitch, check the logs people
posted above otherwise and search for companies that block email.
Consider my Fortune 100 email address has been blocked before and we
couldn't do anything about it due to it being a normal error, I think
you'll be in the same boat.

Thank you for a very informative post. I do have a static IP which
made the situation weirder as the reported IP that I was supposedly
posting from didn't even exist.

As to suing, I'm not going to sue anybody for something like this -
sometimes the characters here take things too seriously and it's much
too easy to poke them when they get on their high horse. :)

In any case, thanks again - very interesting information.

Static is not the same as hidden, as you've found out.

Oh, I'm stealthed and firewalled up the wazoo.

ALthough I suppose it could be cound with a blanket type of IP search.

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:15:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:16:50 -0700, wrote:


My opinion is, it was just a normal glitch, check the logs people
posted above otherwise and search for companies that block email.
Consider my Fortune 100 email address has been blocked before and we
couldn't do anything about it due to it being a normal error, I think
you'll be in the same boat.

Thank you for a very informative post. I do have a static IP which
made the situation weirder as the reported IP that I was supposedly
posting from didn't even exist.

As to suing, I'm not going to sue anybody for something like this -
sometimes the characters here take things too seriously and it's much
too easy to poke them when they get on their high horse. :)

In any case, thanks again - very interesting information.

Static is not the same as hidden, as you've found out.

Oh, I'm stealthed and firewalled up the wazoo.

ALthough I suppose it could be cound with a blanket type of IP search.

Go he
http://www.grc.com/default.htm

Click on ShieldsUp! and you'll see some interesting info about your
computer. Then, click one of the "Proceed" buttons.

This site is SAFE to play around on.

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On Jul 10, 6:16 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:15:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"





wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:16:50 -0700, wrote:

My opinion is, it was just a normal glitch, check the logs people
posted above otherwise and search for companies that block email.
Consider my Fortune 100 email address has been blocked before and we
couldn't do anything about it due to it being a normal error, I think
you'll be in the same boat.

Thank you for a very informative post. I do have a static IP which
made the situation weirder as the reported IP that I was supposedly
posting from didn't even exist.

As to suing, I'm not going to sue anybody for something like this -
sometimes the characters here take things too seriously and it's much
too easy to poke them when they get on their high horse. :)

In any case, thanks again - very interesting information.

Static is not the same as hidden, as you've found out.

Oh, I'm stealthed and firewalled up the wazoo.

ALthough I suppose it could be cound with a blanket type of IP search.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Another way to get listed is to have a virus sending out emails. Like
I said, autoresponders "fighting" with a spam producing ip is way up
there too. We have one this morning. He is screaming that Vor****n
told him it was our problem as we run a pop server for the guy. But it
is their IP, and we have nothing to do with it. I told him next time V
tells him it is our problem, he should get the guys name as I would
like to know who is tossing bs around about our company. They do not
deal with the problem, they just wait it out and blame it on someone
down the line.

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On Jul 10, 7:58 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:t1n693dioll0iva6p6hhnm2lrtpkpscavp@4ax .com...





On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:15:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:16:50 -0700, wrote:

My opinion is, it was just a normal glitch, check the logs people
posted above otherwise and search for companies that block email.
Consider my Fortune 100 email address has been blocked before and we
couldn't do anything about it due to it being a normal error, I think
you'll be in the same boat.

Thank you for a very informative post. I do have a static IP which
made the situation weirder as the reported IP that I was supposedly
posting from didn't even exist.

As to suing, I'm not going to sue anybody for something like this -
sometimes the characters here take things too seriously and it's much
too easy to poke them when they get on their high horse. :)

In any case, thanks again - very interesting information.

Static is not the same as hidden, as you've found out.

Oh, I'm stealthed and firewalled up the wazoo.

ALthough I suppose it could be cound with a blanket type of IP search.

Go hehttp://www.grc.com/default.htm

Click on ShieldsUp! and you'll see some interesting info about your
computer. Then, click one of the "Proceed" buttons.

This site is SAFE to play around on.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

File sharing:

Your Internet port 139 does not appear to exist!

Unable to connect with NetBIOS to your computer.

Common Ports:

26 lines of "Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or
even any computer) exists at this IP address! "

Service Ports Probe:

All ports stealth (green)

Messenger Spam:

Nil

Browser Headers:

Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg,
application/x-ms-application, application/vnd.ms-xpsdocument,
application/xaml+xml, application/x-ms-xbap, application/vnd.ms-excel,
application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/msword, application/x-
shockwave-flash, */*
Accept-Language: en-us
Connection: Keep-Alive
Host: www.grc.com
Referer: https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rz1akkyd2
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0;
SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR 3.0.04506)
Cookie: temp=pvqre3dksub; perm=3pdi0s3iyobrj
UA-CPU: x86
Content-Length: 31
Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
Cache-Control: no-cache
FirstParty: https://www.grc.com
ThirdParty: https://www.grctech.com
Secu https://www.grc.com
Nonsecu http://www.grc.com
Session: auq2cnpxfrzdh

Our play system is pretty secure. A while back we had a security
consultant/friend we trust, who works for a huge company, to hack into
our business systems. We provided him with some info and he went at
it. After a few days he called us and told us he could not ever get to
square one with any or our systems. Could not even see them past the
ip. He was somewhat embarrassed as he had warned us he would know what
color socks we were wearing in the office when he was done;)

Anyway, not bad website, interesting, but I already knew most of
this ;)

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

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On Jul 10, 7:58 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
messagenews:t1n693dioll0iva6p6hhnm2lrtpkpscavp@4ax .com...





On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:15:01 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:16:50 -0700, wrote:

My opinion is, it was just a normal glitch, check the logs people
posted above otherwise and search for companies that block email.
Consider my Fortune 100 email address has been blocked before and we
couldn't do anything about it due to it being a normal error, I think
you'll be in the same boat.

Thank you for a very informative post. I do have a static IP which
made the situation weirder as the reported IP that I was supposedly
posting from didn't even exist.

As to suing, I'm not going to sue anybody for something like this -
sometimes the characters here take things too seriously and it's much
too easy to poke them when they get on their high horse. :)

In any case, thanks again - very interesting information.

Static is not the same as hidden, as you've found out.

Oh, I'm stealthed and firewalled up the wazoo.

ALthough I suppose it could be cound with a blanket type of IP search.

Go hehttp://www.grc.com/default.htm

Click on ShieldsUp! and you'll see some interesting info about your
computer. Then, click one of the "Proceed" buttons.

This site is SAFE to play around on.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

File sharing:

Your Internet port 139 does not appear to exist!

Unable to connect with NetBIOS to your computer.

Common Ports:

26 lines of "Stealth There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that a port (or
even any computer) exists at this IP address! "

Service Ports Probe:

All ports stealth (green)

Messenger Spam:

Nil

Browser Headers:

Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg,
application/x-ms-application, application/vnd.ms-xpsdocument,
application/xaml+xml, application/x-ms-xbap, application/vnd.ms-excel,
application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/msword, application/x-
shockwave-flash, */*
Accept-Language: en-us
Connection: Keep-Alive
Host: www.grc.com
Referer: https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rz1akkyd2
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0;
SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR 3.0.04506)
Cookie: temp=pvqre3dksub; perm=3pdi0s3iyobrj
UA-CPU: x86
Content-Length: 31
Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
Cache-Control: no-cache
FirstParty: https://www.grc.com
ThirdParty: https://www.grctech.com
Secu https://www.grc.com
Nonsecu http://www.grc.com
Session: auq2cnpxfrzdh

Our play system is pretty secure. A while back we had a security
consultant/friend we trust, who works for a huge company, to hack into
our business systems. We provided him with some info and he went at
it. After a few days he called us and told us he could not ever get to
square one with any or our systems. Could not even see them past the
ip. He was somewhat embarrassed as he had warned us he would know what
color socks we were wearing in the office when he was done;)

Anyway, not bad website, interesting, but I already knew most of
this ;)


Hang onto that web site. Gibson's Spinrite software is about the best there
is for diagnosing hard disk issues.

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:58:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Oh, I'm stealthed and firewalled up the wazoo.

ALthough I suppose it could be cound with a blanket type of IP search.

Go he
http://www.grc.com/default.htm

Click on ShieldsUp! and you'll see some interesting info about your
computer. Then, click one of the "Proceed" buttons.

This site is SAFE to play around on.

Your system has achieved a perfect "TruStealth" rating.

Good enough for you? :)

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:58:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Oh, I'm stealthed and firewalled up the wazoo.

ALthough I suppose it could be cound with a blanket type of IP search.

Go he
http://www.grc.com/default.htm

Click on ShieldsUp! and you'll see some interesting info about your
computer. Then, click one of the "Proceed" buttons.

This site is SAFE to play around on.

Your system has achieved a perfect "TruStealth" rating.

Good enough for you? :)

Well, now youse know, ya know?

Yo!! Nerds!!!
 

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:39:14 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:58:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Oh, I'm stealthed and firewalled up the wazoo.

ALthough I suppose it could be cound with a blanket type of IP search.

Go he
http://www.grc.com/default.htm

Click on ShieldsUp! and you'll see some interesting info about your
computer. Then, click one of the "Proceed" buttons.

This site is SAFE to play around on.

Your system has achieved a perfect "TruStealth" rating.

Good enough for you? :)

Well, now youse know, ya know?

I didn't need to know because I already knew.

???????