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On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:41:11 -0400, BAR wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Illudium PU-36 Explosive Space Modulator. That thing uses a ton of energy. Do your own home work. I used to tell my kids that all the time. :) |
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:41:11 -0400, BAR wrote:
Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Oh please, no one knows the rate that Mars is warming. Hell, we have over a hundred years of weather station data here on Earth, tree ring data, ice cores, etc. and science still isn't sure of our climate mechanisms. If from the limited data we have on Mars, you think you have a handle on it's climate, you are fooling yourself. Do your own home work. |
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:41:11 -0400, BAR wrote: Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Oh please, no one knows the rate that Mars is warming. Hell, we have over a hundred years of weather station data here on Earth, tree ring data, ice cores, etc. and science still isn't sure of our climate mechanisms. If from the limited data we have on Mars, you think you have a handle on it's climate, you are fooling yourself. I was going to add a comment to Thunder's until I recalled who "BAR" was...he's just another of the right-wing idiots who live in my bozo bin. I should throw some porridge in there...they must be tired of feeding on each other |
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On Jun 27, 7:45 am, HK wrote:
thunder wrote: On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:41:11 -0400, BAR wrote: Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Oh please, no one knows the rate that Mars is warming. Hell, we have over a hundred years of weather station data here on Earth, tree ring data, ice cores, etc. and science still isn't sure of our climate mechanisms. If from the limited data we have on Mars, you think you have a handle on it's climate, you are fooling yourself. I was going to add a comment to Thunder's until I recalled who "BAR" was...he's just another of the right-wing idiots who live in my bozo bin. I should throw some porridge in there...they must be tired of feeding on each other Pwease Hawwy, can I 'ave s'mour. Sorry, I barely speak british, don't expect me to spell it. |
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thunder wrote: On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:41:11 -0400, BAR wrote: Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Oh please, no one knows the rate that Mars is warming. Hell, we have over a hundred years of weather station data here on Earth, tree ring data, ice cores, etc. and science still isn't sure of our climate mechanisms. If from the limited data we have on Mars, you think you have a handle on it's climate, you are fooling yourself. I was going to add a comment to Thunder's until I recalled who "BAR" was...he's just another of the right-wing idiots who live in my bozo bin. I should throw some porridge in there...they must be tired of feeding on each other Harry, You spend more time making posts about those people in your "bozo bin", than most people do about all subjects that interest them. If you really had these people in your "bozo bin" or really did want to ignore them, you really would just ignore them. |
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. .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you. |
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On Jun 27, 8:18 am, HK wrote:
wrote: On Jun 27, 7:45 am, HK wrote: thunder wrote: On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:41:11 -0400, BAR wrote: Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Oh please, no one knows the rate that Mars is warming. Hell, we have over a hundred years of weather station data here on Earth, tree ring data, ice cores, etc. and science still isn't sure of our climate mechanisms. If from the limited data we have on Mars, you think you have a handle on it's climate, you are fooling yourself. I was going to add a comment to Thunder's until I recalled who "BAR" was...he's just another of the right-wing idiots who live in my bozo bin. I should throw some porridge in there...they must be tired of feeding on each other Pwease Hawwy, can I 'ave s'mour. Sorry, I barely speak british, don't expect me to spell it. You don't seem to be in my bozo bin yet. It's either an oversight or the fact that I'm a sucker for comic relief or, more likely, I like your boat.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - sniff, well if you are ever up this way you are welcome. We'll talk fishin' no polyticks ;) |
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:41:16 -0000, thunder
wrote: On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:41:11 -0400, BAR wrote: Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Oh please, no one knows the rate that Mars is warming. Hell, we have over a hundred years of weather station data here on Earth, tree ring data, ice cores, etc. and science still isn't sure of our climate mechanisms. If from the limited data we have on Mars, you think you have a handle on it's climate, you are fooling yourself. Start here. http://www.agiweb.org/geotimes/feb02/NN_MarsCC.html http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...ts_040421.html http://www2.keck.hawaii.edu/news/science/saturn/ http://tinyurl.com/3cmwqb Work your way from there. :) |
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:14:17 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:41:16 -0000, thunder wrote: On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:41:11 -0400, BAR wrote: Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Oh please, no one knows the rate that Mars is warming. Hell, we have over a hundred years of weather station data here on Earth, tree ring data, ice cores, etc. and science still isn't sure of our climate mechanisms. If from the limited data we have on Mars, you think you have a handle on it's climate, you are fooling yourself. Start here. http://www.agiweb.org/geotimes/feb02/NN_MarsCC.html http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...ts_040421.html Come on, Tom. " Jupiter is undergoing major climate change and could lose many of its large spots over the next seven years, only to make way for the creation of fresh spots in a decades-long cycle, according to a new explanation of old mysteries." That seems about right, seeing that it's orbit takes 4332.71 days to complete. Saturn's orbit takes 29 years, and Uranus 84 years. Now if you want to put any changes in their "climates" to changes in the sun's output, and not variations in their normal "seasons", fine. Hell, Uranus was discovered in 1781. That means we've been "viewing" it for less than 3 Uranus' years, hardly enough time to study it's climate variations. Mars, on the other hand, has been studied, and there are indications that it is warming. However, I would suggest from the indications we have, that it would be difficult to state the rate at which it is warming, and impossible to state that the rate is the same as Earth's, as BAR did. http://www2.keck.hawaii.edu/news/science/saturn/ http://tinyurl.com/3cmwqb Work your way from there. :) |
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:14:17 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:41:16 -0000, thunder wrote: On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:41:11 -0400, BAR wrote: Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Oh please, no one knows the rate that Mars is warming. Hell, we have over a hundred years of weather station data here on Earth, tree ring data, ice cores, etc. and science still isn't sure of our climate mechanisms. If from the limited data we have on Mars, you think you have a handle on it's climate, you are fooling yourself. Start here. http://www.agiweb.org/geotimes/feb02/NN_MarsCC.html http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...ts_040421.html Come on, Tom. " Jupiter is undergoing major climate change and could lose many of its large spots over the next seven years, only to make way for the creation of fresh spots in a decades-long cycle, according to a new explanation of old mysteries." That seems about right, seeing that it's orbit takes 4332.71 days to complete. Saturn's orbit takes 29 years, and Uranus 84 years. Now if you want to put any changes in their "climates" to changes in the sun's output, and not variations in their normal "seasons", fine. Hell, Uranus was discovered in 1781. That means we've been "viewing" it for less than 3 Uranus' years, hardly enough time to study it's climate variations. Mars, on the other hand, has been studied, and there are indications that it is warming. However, I would suggest from the indications we have, that it would be difficult to state the rate at which it is warming, and impossible to state that the rate is the same as Earth's, as BAR did. http://www2.keck.hawaii.edu/news/science/saturn/ http://tinyurl.com/3cmwqb Work your way from there. :) Ninety per cent of the "opposition" to the prevalent theories of global warming are based upon nothing more than traditional conservative (it's going to hurt the corporations) bull****. The cons are afraid that if we have to take steps to curtail our contributions to warming, it will hurt their stocks. That's really all there is there. It's the same kind of pigheaded thinking that has so many conservatives speaking up for anti-science concepts that oppose evolution and the unrestricted use of stem cells, and all the rest of the happy horse****. To even engage the cons on these issues is to give them credence they don't deserve. |
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:53:33 -0400, HK wrote:
Ninety per cent of the "opposition" to the prevalent theories of global warming are based upon nothing more than traditional conservative (it's going to hurt the corporations) bull****. The cons are afraid that if we have to take steps to curtail our contributions to warming, it will hurt their stocks. That's really all there is there. It's the same kind of pigheaded thinking that has so many conservatives speaking up for anti-science concepts that oppose evolution and the unrestricted use of stem cells, and all the rest of the happy horse****. To even engage the cons on these issues is to give them credence they don't deserve. I wouldn't lump Tom in there. I think he just has a contrarian nature. ;-) Hey, I believe skepticism is a good trait, but it is interesting that some will deny all the years of data and study on this most extensively studied planetary body, but accept a couple of pictures from the Global Surveyor as proof the sun is causing all of this global warming. All the while, ignoring the Sun is the second most studied planetary body. It does take some mental gymnastics. |
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thunder wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:53:33 -0400, HK wrote: Ninety per cent of the "opposition" to the prevalent theories of global warming are based upon nothing more than traditional conservative (it's going to hurt the corporations) bull****. The cons are afraid that if we have to take steps to curtail our contributions to warming, it will hurt their stocks. That's really all there is there. It's the same kind of pigheaded thinking that has so many conservatives speaking up for anti-science concepts that oppose evolution and the unrestricted use of stem cells, and all the rest of the happy horse****. To even engage the cons on these issues is to give them credence they don't deserve. I wouldn't lump Tom in there. I think he just has a contrarian nature. ;-) Hey, I believe skepticism is a good trait, but it is interesting that some will deny all the years of data and study on this most extensively studied planetary body, but accept a couple of pictures from the Global Surveyor as proof the sun is causing all of this global warming. All the while, ignoring the Sun is the second most studied planetary body. It does take some mental gymnastics. I don't lump Tom in anywhere. He's a special, cantankerous type, sort of like me. |
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On Jun 27, 9:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... |
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ups.com... On Jun 27, 9:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion: 1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground two years ago, and that's about it. 2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener? 3) How old are you? |
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:29:37 -0000, thunder
wrote: Mars, on the other hand, has been studied, and there are indications that it is warming. However, I would suggest from the indications we have, that it would be difficult to state the rate at which it is warming, and impossible to state that the rate is the same as Earth's, as BAR did. LOL!! I'm just messin' with you. :) Although it would seem there is some basis in fact on this solar cycle thing. Lawrence Solomon of the National/Financial Post did one hell of a series on this whole thing called "The Deniers" including articles in support of the main subject. It's very even and extremely fair. He's shares my opinion in fact - yes, man does contribute to Global Warming and yes, Greenhouse Gases exist. It more a question of what it does to the climate and how is affects climate change - I'm in the camp that there are physical/solar explanations as well as historical/climatological/geological explanations as well. Solomon was in the Global Warming camp until he started out actually looking into the science and scientists. Here's a sample. http://tinyurl.com/262px5 The simple truth is this - man does change and affect his environment. Has since the first time humanoids began to walk upright. However what is missing with the Global Warming contingent is a sense of history and, to tell the truth, basic knowledge of science. That's what you get when you elect lawyers who only took "Science for Liberal Arts" in college. I mean think about Nancy Pelosi who said after visiting Greeland "I have seen Global Warming". Has she never heard of the Vikings who discovered Tibet and colonized Mexico and established a trading colony in Greenland (around 960 CE)? And think about this - there are, as of now, six different solar cycles of varying lengths. Each of them affects the climate of the Earth differently - there is sound, scientific proof of these changes - some drastic, some minor. Do we need to do something about smog and green house gas? Yes. Is it the sole cause of climate change? Not even close. |
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:53:33 -0400, HK wrote:
Ninety per cent of the "opposition" to the prevalent theories of global warming are based upon nothing more than traditional conservative (it's going to hurt the corporations) bull****. You see, this is where you **** people off. It's not bull**** Harry - it's science. Real science - not made up science. Read a little more and put some thought into it instead of parroting the party line. |
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:40:38 -0400, HK wrote:
thunder wrote: On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:53:33 -0400, HK wrote: Ninety per cent of the "opposition" to the prevalent theories of global warming are based upon nothing more than traditional conservative (it's going to hurt the corporations) bull****. The cons are afraid that if we have to take steps to curtail our contributions to warming, it will hurt their stocks. That's really all there is there. It's the same kind of pigheaded thinking that has so many conservatives speaking up for anti-science concepts that oppose evolution and the unrestricted use of stem cells, and all the rest of the happy horse****. To even engage the cons on these issues is to give them credence they don't deserve. I wouldn't lump Tom in there. I think he just has a contrarian nature. ;-) Got that right. :) I don't lump Tom in anywhere. He's a special, cantankerous type, sort of like me. I accept your apology and offer one in return. :) |
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:49:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 27, 9:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion: 1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground two years ago, and that's about it. Hell no - I farm hay and trees. :) 2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener? Pansy. 3) How old are you? What the hell does that have to do with anything? |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
... On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:49:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 9:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion: 1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground two years ago, and that's about it. Hell no - I farm hay and trees. :) 2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener? Pansy. 3) How old are you? What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm not asking you. |
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On Jun 27, 2:45 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:nub5835mleag0i92ndmmm12e683re4u4va@4ax .com... On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:49:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 9:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:xdydnTyo58qlXRzbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast. com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion: 1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground two years ago, and that's about it. Hell no - I farm hay and trees. :) 2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener? Pansy. 3) How old are you? What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm not asking you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I am 50. I have been keeping close to an acre landscaped for over 20 years. I grew up in the Northeast, playing in the woods in a very rural area, at the time. I have dabbled in flowers and vegetables most of my life, I was pulling poison ivy out of the trees of the Hillstead Museum property as a child back in 68, a life scout who specalized in outdoor woodsmanship such as tracking, survival, mapping, and such. Is that good enough or do I need a degree to know about poison ivy? |
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On Jun 27, 4:15 pm, wrote:
On Jun 27, 2:45 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:nub5835mleag0i92ndmmm12e683re4u4va@4ax .com... On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:49:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 9:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:xdydnTyo58qlXRzbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast. com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion: 1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground two years ago, and that's about it. Hell no - I farm hay and trees. :) 2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener? Pansy. 3) How old are you? What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm not asking you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I am 50. I have been keeping close to an acre landscaped for over 20 years. I grew up in the Northeast, playing in the woods in a very rural area, at the time. I have dabbled in flowers and vegetables most of my life, I was pulling poison ivy out of the trees of the Hillstead Museum property as a child back in 68, a life scout who specalized in outdoor woodsmanship such as tracking, survival, mapping, and such. Is that good enough or do I need a degree to know about poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - When I say specilized of course I mean, that's what I liked best. I was the guy who set up and took other scouts on the five mile hikes through the open areas usng a compass and a topographic map... I was real good out there, at one time I knew over 20 plants and roots in my local area you could feast on... |
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On Jun 27, 4:19 pm, wrote:
On Jun 27, 4:15 pm, wrote: On Jun 27, 2:45 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:nub5835mleag0i92ndmmm12e683re4u4va@4ax .com... On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:49:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 9:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:xdydnTyo58qlXRzbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast. com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion: 1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground two years ago, and that's about it. Hell no - I farm hay and trees. :) 2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener? Pansy. 3) How old are you? What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm not asking you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I am 50. I have been keeping close to an acre landscaped for over 20 years. I grew up in the Northeast, playing in the woods in a very rural area, at the time. I have dabbled in flowers and vegetables most of my life, I was pulling poison ivy out of the trees of the Hillstead Museum property as a child back in 68, a life scout who specalized in outdoor woodsmanship such as tracking, survival, mapping, and such. Is that good enough or do I need a degree to know about poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - When I say specilized of course I mean, that's what I liked best. I was the guy who set up and took other scouts on the five mile hikes through the open areas usng a compass and a topographic map... I was real good out there, at one time I knew over 20 plants and roots in my local area you could feast on...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Grew up next to huge woods area... I know poison ivy, now speculate on why my shoreline PI is not already super PI please, Oh btw, since I took the time, please answer your own questions to qualify yourself, thanks, although, I'm not really all that interested, I live out here in the non-virtual world, I am playing with PI today near the pool asmof, so have a great day. |
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oups.com... On Jun 27, 2:45 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:nub5835mleag0i92ndmmm12e683re4u4va@4ax .com... On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:49:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 9:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:xdydnTyo58qlXRzbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast. com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion: 1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground two years ago, and that's about it. Hell no - I farm hay and trees. :) 2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener? Pansy. 3) How old are you? What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm not asking you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I am 50. I have been keeping close to an acre landscaped for over 20 years. I grew up in the Northeast, playing in the woods in a very rural area, at the time. I have dabbled in flowers and vegetables most of my life, I was pulling poison ivy out of the trees of the Hillstead Museum property as a child back in 68, a life scout who specalized in outdoor woodsmanship such as tracking, survival, mapping, and such. Is that good enough or do I need a degree to know about poison ivy? Then, it seems odd that you are having difficulty understanding how one person's observations of a plant, in one location, can be so different from yours. You can move an ornamental plant 5 feet closer to a wall which reflects light and heat, and the plant will behave in a totally different way than it did in its previous location, after taking transplanting issues into account. |
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On Jun 27, 4:23 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 27, 2:45 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:nub5835mleag0i92ndmmm12e683re4u4va@4ax .com... On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:49:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 9:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:xdydnTyo58qlXRzbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast. com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion: 1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground two years ago, and that's about it. Hell no - I farm hay and trees. :) 2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener? Pansy. 3) How old are you? What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm not asking you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I am 50. I have been keeping close to an acre landscaped for over 20 years. I grew up in the Northeast, playing in the woods in a very rural area, at the time. I have dabbled in flowers and vegetables most of my life, I was pulling poison ivy out of the trees of the Hillstead Museum property as a child back in 68, a life scout who specalized in outdoor woodsmanship such as tracking, survival, mapping, and such. Is that good enough or do I need a degree to know about poison ivy? Then, it seems odd that you are having difficulty understanding how one person's observations of a plant, in one location, can be so different from yours. You can move an ornamental plant 5 feet closer to a wall which reflects light and heat, and the plant will behave in a totally different way than it did in its previous location, after taking transplanting issues into account.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sure I have, but what does that have to do with a mythical strain of super PI caused by GW? |
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oups.com... On Jun 27, 4:23 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 27, 2:45 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:nub5835mleag0i92ndmmm12e683re4u4va@4ax .com... On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:49:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 9:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:xdydnTyo58qlXRzbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast. com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion: 1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground two years ago, and that's about it. Hell no - I farm hay and trees. :) 2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener? Pansy. 3) How old are you? What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm not asking you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I am 50. I have been keeping close to an acre landscaped for over 20 years. I grew up in the Northeast, playing in the woods in a very rural area, at the time. I have dabbled in flowers and vegetables most of my life, I was pulling poison ivy out of the trees of the Hillstead Museum property as a child back in 68, a life scout who specalized in outdoor woodsmanship such as tracking, survival, mapping, and such. Is that good enough or do I need a degree to know about poison ivy? Then, it seems odd that you are having difficulty understanding how one person's observations of a plant, in one location, can be so different from yours. You can move an ornamental plant 5 feet closer to a wall which reflects light and heat, and the plant will behave in a totally different way than it did in its previous location, after taking transplanting issues into account.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sure I have, but what does that have to do with a mythical strain of super PI caused by GW? I thought you said you were a gardener. How do you know it's a "strain", rather than a plant responding to different growing conditions? Hint: Most poison ivy reproduces vegetatively. You know what that means, right? |
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On Jun 27, 6:03 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 27, 4:23 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 27, 2:45 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:nub5835mleag0i92ndmmm12e683re4u4va@4ax .com... On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:49:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 9:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:xdydnTyo58qlXRzbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast. com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion: 1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground two years ago, and that's about it. Hell no - I farm hay and trees. :) 2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener? Pansy. 3) How old are you? What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm not asking you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I am 50. I have been keeping close to an acre landscaped for over 20 years. I grew up in the Northeast, playing in the woods in a very rural area, at the time. I have dabbled in flowers and vegetables most of my life, I was pulling poison ivy out of the trees of the Hillstead Museum property as a child back in 68, a life scout who specalized in outdoor woodsmanship such as tracking, survival, mapping, and such. Is that good enough or do I need a degree to know about poison ivy? Then, it seems odd that you are having difficulty understanding how one person's observations of a plant, in one location, can be so different from yours. You can move an ornamental plant 5 feet closer to a wall which reflects light and heat, and the plant will behave in a totally different way than it did in its previous location, after taking transplanting issues into account.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sure I have, but what does that have to do with a mythical strain of super PI caused by GW? I thought you said you were a gardener. How do you know it's a "strain", rather than a plant responding to different growing conditions? Hint: Most poison ivy reproduces vegetatively. You know what that means, right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ah, I am a gardener, more of an outdoorsman, but alas, not a schooled botanist so I guess my opinion is probably moot when it comes to PI or GW for that matter. Although, I am still interested in hearing your qualifications in these areas, I am always willing to learn and even change my mind. |
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ups.com... On Jun 27, 6:03 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 27, 4:23 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 27, 2:45 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:nub5835mleag0i92ndmmm12e683re4u4va@4ax .com... On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:49:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 9:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:xdydnTyo58qlXRzbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast. com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion: 1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground two years ago, and that's about it. Hell no - I farm hay and trees. :) 2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener? Pansy. 3) How old are you? What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm not asking you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I am 50. I have been keeping close to an acre landscaped for over 20 years. I grew up in the Northeast, playing in the woods in a very rural area, at the time. I have dabbled in flowers and vegetables most of my life, I was pulling poison ivy out of the trees of the Hillstead Museum property as a child back in 68, a life scout who specalized in outdoor woodsmanship such as tracking, survival, mapping, and such. Is that good enough or do I need a degree to know about poison ivy? Then, it seems odd that you are having difficulty understanding how one person's observations of a plant, in one location, can be so different from yours. You can move an ornamental plant 5 feet closer to a wall which reflects light and heat, and the plant will behave in a totally different way than it did in its previous location, after taking transplanting issues into account.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sure I have, but what does that have to do with a mythical strain of super PI caused by GW? I thought you said you were a gardener. How do you know it's a "strain", rather than a plant responding to different growing conditions? Hint: Most poison ivy reproduces vegetatively. You know what that means, right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ah, I am a gardener, more of an outdoorsman, but alas, not a schooled botanist so I guess my opinion is probably moot when it comes to PI or GW for that matter. Although, I am still interested in hearing your qualifications in these areas, I am always willing to learn and even change my mind. What generic types of qualifications would you like to see? |
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On Jun 27, 10:18 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... On Jun 27, 6:03 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 27, 4:23 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 27, 2:45 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:nub5835mleag0i92ndmmm12e683re4u4va@4ax .com... On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:49:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 9:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:xdydnTyo58qlXRzbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast. com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion: 1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground two years ago, and that's about it. Hell no - I farm hay and trees. :) 2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener? Pansy. 3) How old are you? What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm not asking you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I am 50. I have been keeping close to an acre landscaped for over 20 years. I grew up in the Northeast, playing in the woods in a very rural area, at the time. I have dabbled in flowers and vegetables most of my life, I was pulling poison ivy out of the trees of the Hillstead Museum property as a child back in 68, a life scout who specalized in outdoor woodsmanship such as tracking, survival, mapping, and such. Is that good enough or do I need a degree to know about poison ivy? Then, it seems odd that you are having difficulty understanding how one person's observations of a plant, in one location, can be so different from yours. You can move an ornamental plant 5 feet closer to a wall which reflects light and heat, and the plant will behave in a totally different way than it did in its previous location, after taking transplanting issues into account.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sure I have, but what does that have to do with a mythical strain of super PI caused by GW? I thought you said you were a gardener. How do you know it's a "strain", rather than a plant responding to different growing conditions? Hint: Most poison ivy reproduces vegetatively. You know what that means, right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ah, I am a gardener, more of an outdoorsman, but alas, not a schooled botanist so I guess my opinion is probably moot when it comes to PI or GW for that matter. Although, I am still interested in hearing your qualifications in these areas, I am always willing to learn and even change my mind. What generic types of qualifications would you like to see?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, you could start by answering the series of qualifying questions you asked me. Then you could explain to me what level of education, experience, or general knowledge a person must have to have what you would consider a legitimate opinion on these subjects, or do they simply have to agree with you to qualify? ;) |
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ps.com... On Jun 27, 10:18 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Jun 27, 6:03 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 27, 4:23 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 27, 2:45 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:nub5835mleag0i92ndmmm12e683re4u4va@4ax .com... On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:49:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 9:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:xdydnTyo58qlXRzbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast. com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion: 1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground two years ago, and that's about it. Hell no - I farm hay and trees. :) 2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener? Pansy. 3) How old are you? What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm not asking you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I am 50. I have been keeping close to an acre landscaped for over 20 years. I grew up in the Northeast, playing in the woods in a very rural area, at the time. I have dabbled in flowers and vegetables most of my life, I was pulling poison ivy out of the trees of the Hillstead Museum property as a child back in 68, a life scout who specalized in outdoor woodsmanship such as tracking, survival, mapping, and such. Is that good enough or do I need a degree to know about poison ivy? Then, it seems odd that you are having difficulty understanding how one person's observations of a plant, in one location, can be so different from yours. You can move an ornamental plant 5 feet closer to a wall which reflects light and heat, and the plant will behave in a totally different way than it did in its previous location, after taking transplanting issues into account.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sure I have, but what does that have to do with a mythical strain of super PI caused by GW? I thought you said you were a gardener. How do you know it's a "strain", rather than a plant responding to different growing conditions? Hint: Most poison ivy reproduces vegetatively. You know what that means, right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ah, I am a gardener, more of an outdoorsman, but alas, not a schooled botanist so I guess my opinion is probably moot when it comes to PI or GW for that matter. Although, I am still interested in hearing your qualifications in these areas, I am always willing to learn and even change my mind. What generic types of qualifications would you like to see?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, you could start by answering the series of qualifying questions you asked me. Then you could explain to me what level of education, experience, or general knowledge a person must have to have what you would consider a legitimate opinion on these subjects, or do they simply have to agree with you to qualify? ;) - High school biology, enough to understand the difference between two different "strains", and two genetically identical plants behaving differently for reasons related to growing conditions. Did you finish high school? - Enough curiosity about plants to read a few books per year, and I don't mean the Sunset books at Home Depot, like "Shrubs for Morons". - Secret decoder ring, which I'm sure you don't have |
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On Jun 27, 10:32 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ps.com... On Jun 27, 10:18 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 6:03 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 27, 4:23 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 27, 2:45 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:nub5835mleag0i92ndmmm12e683re4u4va@4ax .com... On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:49:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 9:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:xdydnTyo58qlXRzbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast. com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion: 1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground two years ago, and that's about it. Hell no - I farm hay and trees. :) 2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener? Pansy. 3) How old are you? What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm not asking you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I am 50. I have been keeping close to an acre landscaped for over 20 years. I grew up in the Northeast, playing in the woods in a very rural area, at the time. I have dabbled in flowers and vegetables most of my life, I was pulling poison ivy out of the trees of the Hillstead Museum property as a child back in 68, a life scout who specalized in outdoor woodsmanship such as tracking, survival, mapping, and such. Is that good enough or do I need a degree to know about poison ivy? Then, it seems odd that you are having difficulty understanding how one person's observations of a plant, in one location, can be so different from yours. You can move an ornamental plant 5 feet closer to a wall which reflects light and heat, and the plant will behave in a totally different way than it did in its previous location, after taking transplanting issues into account.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sure I have, but what does that have to do with a mythical strain of super PI caused by GW? I thought you said you were a gardener. How do you know it's a "strain", rather than a plant responding to different growing conditions? Hint: Most poison ivy reproduces vegetatively. You know what that means, right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ah, I am a gardener, more of an outdoorsman, but alas, not a schooled botanist so I guess my opinion is probably moot when it comes to PI or GW for that matter. Although, I am still interested in hearing your qualifications in these areas, I am always willing to learn and even change my mind. What generic types of qualifications would you like to see?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, you could start by answering the series of qualifying questions you asked me. Then you could explain to me what level of education, experience, or general knowledge a person must have to have what you would consider a legitimate opinion on these subjects, or do they simply have to agree with you to qualify? ;) - High school biology, enough to understand the difference between two different "strains", and two genetically identical plants behaving differently for reasons related to growing conditions. Did you finish high school? - Enough curiosity about plants to read a few books per year, and I don't mean the Sunset books at Home Depot, like "Shrubs for Morons". - Secret decoder ring, which I'm sure you don't have- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK Joe, I get it. You bring nothing more than a mildly educated opinion just like me, so the fun is over, good night Joe, hope you catch that frekin' windmill soon ;) |
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oups.com... On Jun 27, 10:32 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ps.com... On Jun 27, 10:18 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 6:03 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 27, 4:23 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 27, 2:45 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:nub5835mleag0i92ndmmm12e683re4u4va@4ax .com... On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:49:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 9:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:xdydnTyo58qlXRzbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast. com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion: 1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground two years ago, and that's about it. Hell no - I farm hay and trees. :) 2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener? Pansy. 3) How old are you? What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm not asking you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I am 50. I have been keeping close to an acre landscaped for over 20 years. I grew up in the Northeast, playing in the woods in a very rural area, at the time. I have dabbled in flowers and vegetables most of my life, I was pulling poison ivy out of the trees of the Hillstead Museum property as a child back in 68, a life scout who specalized in outdoor woodsmanship such as tracking, survival, mapping, and such. Is that good enough or do I need a degree to know about poison ivy? Then, it seems odd that you are having difficulty understanding how one person's observations of a plant, in one location, can be so different from yours. You can move an ornamental plant 5 feet closer to a wall which reflects light and heat, and the plant will behave in a totally different way than it did in its previous location, after taking transplanting issues into account.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sure I have, but what does that have to do with a mythical strain of super PI caused by GW? I thought you said you were a gardener. How do you know it's a "strain", rather than a plant responding to different growing conditions? Hint: Most poison ivy reproduces vegetatively. You know what that means, right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ah, I am a gardener, more of an outdoorsman, but alas, not a schooled botanist so I guess my opinion is probably moot when it comes to PI or GW for that matter. Although, I am still interested in hearing your qualifications in these areas, I am always willing to learn and even change my mind. What generic types of qualifications would you like to see?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, you could start by answering the series of qualifying questions you asked me. Then you could explain to me what level of education, experience, or general knowledge a person must have to have what you would consider a legitimate opinion on these subjects, or do they simply have to agree with you to qualify? ;) - High school biology, enough to understand the difference between two different "strains", and two genetically identical plants behaving differently for reasons related to growing conditions. Did you finish high school? - Enough curiosity about plants to read a few books per year, and I don't mean the Sunset books at Home Depot, like "Shrubs for Morons". - Secret decoder ring, which I'm sure you don't have- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK Joe, I get it. You bring nothing more than a mildly educated opinion just like me, so the fun is over, good night Joe, hope you catch that frekin' windmill soon ;) 35 years of reading about a subject is "mildly educated"? What is a "strain"? And, did you read the article about which this entire discussion revolves? |
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wrote in message ps.com... On Jun 27, 10:18 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message Ah, I am a gardener, more of an outdoorsman, but alas, not a schooled botanist so I guess my opinion is probably moot when it comes to PI or GW for that matter. Although, I am still interested in hearing your qualifications in these areas, I am always willing to learn and even change my mind. What generic types of qualifications would you like to see?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, you could start by answering the series of qualifying questions you asked me. Then you could explain to me what level of education, experience, or general knowledge a person must have to have what you would consider a legitimate opinion on these subjects, or do they simply have to agree with you to qualify? ;) Some advice................You are fighting windmills. Best to move on. ;-) |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 27, 10:32 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ps.com... On Jun 27, 10:18 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 6:03 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 27, 4:23 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 27, 2:45 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:nub5835mleag0i92ndmmm12e683re4u4va@4ax .com... On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:49:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 9:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:xdydnTyo58qlXRzbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast. com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion: 1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground two years ago, and that's about it. Hell no - I farm hay and trees. :) 2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener? Pansy. 3) How old are you? What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm not asking you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I am 50. I have been keeping close to an acre landscaped for over 20 years. I grew up in the Northeast, playing in the woods in a very rural area, at the time. I have dabbled in flowers and vegetables most of my life, I was pulling poison ivy out of the trees of the Hillstead Museum property as a child back in 68, a life scout who specalized in outdoor woodsmanship such as tracking, survival, mapping, and such. Is that good enough or do I need a degree to know about poison ivy? Then, it seems odd that you are having difficulty understanding how one person's observations of a plant, in one location, can be so different from yours. You can move an ornamental plant 5 feet closer to a wall which reflects light and heat, and the plant will behave in a totally different way than it did in its previous location, after taking transplanting issues into account.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sure I have, but what does that have to do with a mythical strain of super PI caused by GW? I thought you said you were a gardener. How do you know it's a "strain", rather than a plant responding to different growing conditions? Hint: Most poison ivy reproduces vegetatively. You know what that means, right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ah, I am a gardener, more of an outdoorsman, but alas, not a schooled botanist so I guess my opinion is probably moot when it comes to PI or GW for that matter. Although, I am still interested in hearing your qualifications in these areas, I am always willing to learn and even change my mind. What generic types of qualifications would you like to see?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, you could start by answering the series of qualifying questions you asked me. Then you could explain to me what level of education, experience, or general knowledge a person must have to have what you would consider a legitimate opinion on these subjects, or do they simply have to agree with you to qualify? ;) - High school biology, enough to understand the difference between two different "strains", and two genetically identical plants behaving differently for reasons related to growing conditions. Did you finish high school? - Enough curiosity about plants to read a few books per year, and I don't mean the Sunset books at Home Depot, like "Shrubs for Morons". - Secret decoder ring, which I'm sure you don't have- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK Joe, I get it. You bring nothing more than a mildly educated opinion just like me, so the fun is over, good night Joe, hope you catch that frekin' windmill soon ;) 35 years of reading about a subject is "mildly educated"? What is a "strain"? And, did you read the article about which this entire discussion revolves? Go to bed already. And that is the last time I will tell you that. |
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On Jun 27, 10:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 27, 10:32 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 27, 10:18 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 6:03 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 27, 4:23 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 27, 2:45 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:nub5835mleag0i92ndmmm12e683re4u4va@4ax .com... On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:49:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 9:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:xdydnTyo58qlXRzbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast. com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion: 1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground two years ago, and that's about it. Hell no - I farm hay and trees. :) 2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener? Pansy. 3) How old are you? What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm not asking you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I am 50. I have been keeping close to an acre landscaped for over 20 years. I grew up in the Northeast, playing in the woods in a very rural area, at the time. I have dabbled in flowers and vegetables most of my life, I was pulling poison ivy out of the trees of the Hillstead Museum property as a child back in 68, a life scout who specalized in outdoor woodsmanship such as tracking, survival, mapping, and such. Is that good enough or do I need a degree to know about poison ivy? Then, it seems odd that you are having difficulty understanding how one person's observations of a plant, in one location, can be so different from yours. You can move an ornamental plant 5 feet closer to a wall which reflects light and heat, and the plant will behave in a totally different way than it did in its previous location, after taking transplanting issues into account.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sure I have, but what does that have to do with a mythical strain of super PI caused by GW? I thought you said you were a gardener. How do you know it's a "strain", rather than a plant responding to different growing conditions? Hint: Most poison ivy reproduces vegetatively. You know what that means, right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ah, I am a gardener, more of an outdoorsman, but alas, not a schooled botanist so I guess my opinion is probably moot when it comes to PI or GW for that matter. Although, I am still interested in hearing your qualifications in these areas, I am always willing to learn and even change my mind. What generic types of qualifications would you like to see?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, you could start by answering the series of qualifying questions you asked me. Then you could explain to me what level of education, experience, or general knowledge a person must have to have what you would consider a legitimate opinion on these subjects, or do they simply have to agree with you to qualify? ;) - High school biology, enough to understand the difference between two different "strains", and two genetically identical plants behaving differently for reasons related to growing conditions. Did you finish high school? - Enough curiosity about plants to read a few books per year, and I don't mean the Sunset books at Home Depot, like "Shrubs for Morons". - Secret decoder ring, which I'm sure you don't have- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK Joe, I get it. You bring nothing more than a mildly educated opinion just like me, so the fun is over, good night Joe, hope you catch that frekin' windmill soon ;) 35 years of reading about a subject is "mildly educated"? What is a "strain"? And, did you read the article about which this entire discussion revolves?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - 35 Years of reading huh? I got 45 living, playing, and making my living outdoors so I still think I probably know as much about poison ivy as you do. Maybe more. Yer book lernin' ain't **** compared to real experience... |
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On Jun 27, 10:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 10:32 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 27, 10:18 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 6:03 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 27, 4:23 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 27, 2:45 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:nub5835mleag0i92ndmmm12e683re4u4va@4ax .com... On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:49:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 9:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:xdydnTyo58qlXRzbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast. com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion: 1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground two years ago, and that's about it. Hell no - I farm hay and trees. :) 2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener? Pansy. 3) How old are you? What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm not asking you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I am 50. I have been keeping close to an acre landscaped for over 20 years. I grew up in the Northeast, playing in the woods in a very rural area, at the time. I have dabbled in flowers and vegetables most of my life, I was pulling poison ivy out of the trees of the Hillstead Museum property as a child back in 68, a life scout who specalized in outdoor woodsmanship such as tracking, survival, mapping, and such. Is that good enough or do I need a degree to know about poison ivy? Then, it seems odd that you are having difficulty understanding how one person's observations of a plant, in one location, can be so different from yours. You can move an ornamental plant 5 feet closer to a wall which reflects light and heat, and the plant will behave in a totally different way than it did in its previous location, after taking transplanting issues into account.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sure I have, but what does that have to do with a mythical strain of super PI caused by GW? I thought you said you were a gardener. How do you know it's a "strain", rather than a plant responding to different growing conditions? Hint: Most poison ivy reproduces vegetatively. You know what that means, right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ah, I am a gardener, more of an outdoorsman, but alas, not a schooled botanist so I guess my opinion is probably moot when it comes to PI or GW for that matter. Although, I am still interested in hearing your qualifications in these areas, I am always willing to learn and even change my mind. What generic types of qualifications would you like to see?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, you could start by answering the series of qualifying questions you asked me. Then you could explain to me what level of education, experience, or general knowledge a person must have to have what you would consider a legitimate opinion on these subjects, or do they simply have to agree with you to qualify? ;) - High school biology, enough to understand the difference between two different "strains", and two genetically identical plants behaving differently for reasons related to growing conditions. Did you finish high school? - Enough curiosity about plants to read a few books per year, and I don't mean the Sunset books at Home Depot, like "Shrubs for Morons". - Secret decoder ring, which I'm sure you don't have- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK Joe, I get it. You bring nothing more than a mildly educated opinion just like me, so the fun is over, good night Joe, hope you catch that frekin' windmill soon ;) 35 years of reading about a subject is "mildly educated"? What is a "strain"? And, did you read the article about which this entire discussion revolves?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - 35 Years of reading huh? I got 45 living, playing, and making my living outdoors so I still think I probably know as much about poison ivy as you do. Maybe more. Yer book lernin' ain't **** compared to real experience...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh and BTW, that famous book by Frank and Rosenthal does not make you a botanist... just another pot farmer like bassy ;) |
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And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion: 1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground two years ago, and that's about it. Hell no - I farm hay and trees. :) 2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener? Pansy. 3) How old are you? What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm not asking you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I am 50. I have been keeping close to an acre landscaped for over 20 years. I grew up in the Northeast, playing in the woods in a very rural area, at the time. I have dabbled in flowers and vegetables most of my life, I was pulling poison ivy out of the trees of the Hillstead Museum property as a child back in 68, a life scout who specalized in outdoor woodsmanship such as tracking, survival, mapping, and such. Is that good enough or do I need a degree to know about poison ivy? Then, it seems odd that you are having difficulty understanding how one person's observations of a plant, in one location, can be so different from yours. You can move an ornamental plant 5 feet closer to a wall which reflects light and heat, and the plant will behave in a totally different way than it did in its previous location, after taking transplanting issues into account.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sure I have, but what does that have to do with a mythical strain of super PI caused by GW? I thought you said you were a gardener. How do you know it's a "strain", rather than a plant responding to different growing conditions? Hint: Most poison ivy reproduces vegetatively. You know what that means, right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ah, I am a gardener, more of an outdoorsman, but alas, not a schooled botanist so I guess my opinion is probably moot when it comes to PI or GW for that matter. Although, I am still interested in hearing your qualifications in these areas, I am always willing to learn and even change my mind. What generic types of qualifications would you like to see?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, you could start by answering the series of qualifying questions you asked me. Then you could explain to me what level of education, experience, or general knowledge a person must have to have what you would consider a legitimate opinion on these subjects, or do they simply have to agree with you to qualify? ;) - High school biology, enough to understand the difference between two different "strains", and two genetically identical plants behaving differently for reasons related to growing conditions. Did you finish high school? - Enough curiosity about plants to read a few books per year, and I don't mean the Sunset books at Home Depot, like "Shrubs for Morons". - Secret decoder ring, which I'm sure you don't have- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK Joe, I get it. You bring nothing more than a mildly educated opinion just like me, so the fun is over, good night Joe, hope you catch that frekin' windmill soon ;) 35 years of reading about a subject is "mildly educated"? What is a "strain"? And, did you read the article about which this entire discussion revolves?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - 35 Years of reading huh? I got 45 living, playing, and making my living outdoors so I still think I probably know as much about poison ivy as you do. Maybe more. Yer book lernin' ain't **** compared to real experience... But, what is a "strain"? You claimed something about a "strain". Basically, you're saying that when winter comes and bears hibernate, they become different "strains". |
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wrote in message ps.com... On Jun 27, 10:18 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message Ah, I am a gardener, more of an outdoorsman, but alas, not a schooled botanist so I guess my opinion is probably moot when it comes to PI or GW for that matter. Although, I am still interested in hearing your qualifications in these areas, I am always willing to learn and even change my mind. What generic types of qualifications would you like to see?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, you could start by answering the series of qualifying questions you asked me. Then you could explain to me what level of education, experience, or general knowledge a person must have to have what you would consider a legitimate opinion on these subjects, or do they simply have to agree with you to qualify? ;) Some advice................You are fighting windmills. Best to move on. ;-)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Advice taken, g'night |
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ups.com... On Jun 27, 11:00 pm, wrote: On Jun 27, 10:47 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 10:32 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Jun 27, 10:18 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 6:03 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 27, 4:23 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 27, 2:45 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:nub5835mleag0i92ndmmm12e683re4u4va@4ax .com... On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:49:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Jun 27, 9:25 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:xdydnTyo58qlXRzbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@comcast. com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message groups.com... On Jun 26, 12:42 pm, HK wrote: So? What's the point? And what has this to do with poison ivy?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, if the HC is suggesting that Global Warming is causing changes in Poison Ivy, I meerely suggest that folks get a second opinon before stating it as fact. That was my point, you want to fight, go ahead. Again, I am out of this pee pee contest, I know what I know. You don't know what you don't know. Everyone agrees that the planet's getting warmer. The debate is about whether human activity in one of the causes. Can you explain why Mars is getting warmer at the same rate Earth is getting warmer? Do your own home work. No I can't explain it. But, I'd like you to tell me how it relates to the article about poison ivy and carbon dioxide. Thank you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - So I just saw a report on the super ivy. The reporter asked if the expert (guy with car painted like ivy, website,marketing... ) if global warming caused the super ivy. He said yes, that, er, um, ahhh, milder winters, were causing the super ivy growth, as well as a (assume genetic) change in the ivy to produce more potent oil too! So here I am some 60 miles from the shore, looking at the new "super ivy" in my back yard, caused by the new milder winters (what is warming, one degree?) and wondering why I did not have super ivy on the shoreline for the last 20 years as it is usually about 10 degrees warmer at my other house, most of the time... Hummmmm... Three questions, the answer to which may improve this discussion: 1) Are you a gardener? I don't mean you stuck a shrub in the ground two years ago, and that's about it. Hell no - I farm hay and trees. :) 2) If you answer "yes" to #1, how long have you been a gardener? Pansy. 3) How old are you? What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm not asking you.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, I am 50. I have been keeping close to an acre landscaped for over 20 years. I grew up in the Northeast, playing in the woods in a very rural area, at the time. I have dabbled in flowers and vegetables most of my life, I was pulling poison ivy out of the trees of the Hillstead Museum property as a child back in 68, a life scout who specalized in outdoor woodsmanship such as tracking, survival, mapping, and such. Is that good enough or do I need a degree to know about poison ivy? Then, it seems odd that you are having difficulty understanding how one person's observations of a plant, in one location, can be so different from yours. You can move an ornamental plant 5 feet closer to a wall which reflects light and heat, and the plant will behave in a totally different way than it did in its previous location, after taking transplanting issues into account.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sure I have, but what does that have to do with a mythical strain of super PI caused by GW? I thought you said you were a gardener. How do you know it's a "strain", rather than a plant responding to different growing conditions? Hint: Most poison ivy reproduces vegetatively. You know what that means, right?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ah, I am a gardener, more of an outdoorsman, but alas, not a schooled botanist so I guess my opinion is probably moot when it comes to PI or GW for that matter. Although, I am still interested in hearing your qualifications in these areas, I am always willing to learn and even change my mind. What generic types of qualifications would you like to see?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well, you could start by answering the series of qualifying questions you asked me. Then you could explain to me what level of education, experience, or general knowledge a person must have to have what you would consider a legitimate opinion on these subjects, or do they simply have to agree with you to qualify? ;) - High school biology, enough to understand the difference between two different "strains", and two genetically identical plants behaving differently for reasons related to growing conditions. Did you finish high school? - Enough curiosity about plants to read a few books per year, and I don't mean the Sunset books at Home Depot, like "Shrubs for Morons". - Secret decoder ring, which I'm sure you don't have- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK Joe, I get it. You bring nothing more than a mildly educated opinion just like me, so the fun is over, good night Joe, hope you catch that frekin' windmill soon ;) 35 years of reading about a subject is "mildly educated"? What is a "strain"? And, did you read the article about which this entire discussion revolves?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - 35 Years of reading huh? I got 45 living, playing, and making my living outdoors so I still think I probably know as much about poison ivy as you do. Maybe more. Yer book lernin' ain't **** compared to real experience...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh and BTW, that famous book by Frank and Rosenthal does not make you a botanist... just another pot farmer like bassy ;) I see. You find out something you don't know, and you attack. By tomorrow, you'll say I'm a rapist. |
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