Comparative tests of boat electronics?
 

On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:55:57 -0400, HK wrote:

I'm still looking for a small boat radar for the Ranger.


I thought that ranger was a bay boat?

Surely an old Connecticut yankee like yourself has seen Narragansett
Bay when it's foggy.

Comparative tests of boat electronics?
 

"HK" wrote in message
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 07:56:22 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

The "no advertising" model with head to head comparisons has been
tried. Powerboat Reports. It failed. That's why nobody is doing
it. :-)

That's not quite true. Practical Sailor is still going strong and
does a pretty decent job with most of their tests and reports. I've
avoided some expensice mistakes by listening to their advice over the
years. Unfortunately they don't cater to the fishing crowd but many
of their other tests are equally applicable to both power and sail.
It's also a good bet that if Furuno makes a chart plotter or radar
with good visibility in direct sunlight, that their fish finder will
have good visibility also. You can also glean some intersting nuggets
regarding customer service and reliability reputations.



It's interesting that chuck objects so strongly to practical, measured
evaluations of boat equipment. I wonder what is beneath the surface here.


Hey, assuming you haven't blown this month's entire allowance the wife gives
you on those tacky pre-fab cabinets and Formica countertops, why don't you
just write the friggin' check yourself and perform the test. I'm sure the
three guys left here who still find you credible and the one other guy who
finds you interesting will hang on every word. The rest of us, not so much.

Comparative tests of boat electronics?
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:55:57 -0400, HK wrote:

I'm still looking for a small boat radar for the Ranger.

I thought that ranger was a bay boat?

Surely an old Connecticut yankee like yourself has seen Narragansett
Bay when it's foggy.



Actually, no.

We were based on the western end of Long Island Sound when I lived in
Connecticut, boated mostly out of the Milford area, and when we sailed a
distance, went as far east as New London, not farther, and occasionally
across the Sound to various Long Island destinations.

In those days, radar was not really an option for those of us in
relatively small boats. In fact, I can't recall any private pleasure
boaters who had a radar set.

When it was too foggy to clear Milford Harbor, we didn't venture out
into the Sound. I do remember using RDF, sort of.

Comparative tests of boat electronics?
 

RG wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 07:56:22 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

The "no advertising" model with head to head comparisons has been
tried. Powerboat Reports. It failed. That's why nobody is doing
it. :-)
That's not quite true. Practical Sailor is still going strong and
does a pretty decent job with most of their tests and reports. I've
avoided some expensice mistakes by listening to their advice over the
years. Unfortunately they don't cater to the fishing crowd but many
of their other tests are equally applicable to both power and sail.
It's also a good bet that if Furuno makes a chart plotter or radar
with good visibility in direct sunlight, that their fish finder will
have good visibility also. You can also glean some intersting nuggets
regarding customer service and reliability reputations.


It's interesting that chuck objects so strongly to practical, measured
evaluations of boat equipment. I wonder what is beneath the surface here.


Hey, assuming you haven't blown this month's entire allowance the wife gives
you on those tacky pre-fab cabinets and Formica countertops, why don't you
just write the friggin' check yourself and perform the test. I'm sure the
three guys left here who still find you credible and the one other guy who
finds you interesting will hang on every word. The rest of us, not so much.




It's really sad to see you dissove into a newsgroup gnat sourpuss, Russ.
Did your wife leave you? Are your residuals from those whole life
policies you sold drying up? Cialyis not working for you?

Comparative tests of boat electronics?
 

It's really sad to see you dissove into a newsgroup gnat sourpuss, Russ.
Did your wife leave you? Are your residuals from those whole life policies
you sold drying up? Cialyis not working for you?

Answering yet again to someone whom you've proclaimed to reside in your
killfile? Please, put me back.

Comparative tests of boat electronics?
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:04:00 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

my electronics install guy who sells them all prefers
Raymarine.

That's interesting since their quality and reliability seem to have
gone downhill in recent years. They must be spiffing the installers
in some way.



This and other "qualitative" comments from others just prove the need
for some sort of independent testing service for boat electronics. I
have a friend who is boat shopping right now, and he's faced with a
kazillion different GPS/Plotters, Fishfinders, VHF radios, et cetera. No
store handles more than a couple of brands, or at least has them on
display, and it is very difficult to decide what works best for you and
what does not. Since he is buying an open boat, I suggested he buy the
simplest stuff around, without all the bells and whistles, because it's
difficult to deal with such finite controls on a boat with "quick
action" in the waves and seaways. In fact, I suggested he go with one of
the newer Garmin plotter/fishfinders, and an inexpensive VHF with an 8'
Shakespeare antenna.

Comparative tests of boat electronics?
 

RG wrote:

It's really sad to see you dissove into a newsgroup gnat sourpuss, Russ.
Did your wife leave you? Are your residuals from those whole life policies
you sold drying up? Cialyis not working for you?

Answering yet again to someone whom you've proclaimed to reside in your
killfile? Please, put me back.




Sadly, you do show up on one of my news accounts, which has fewer
filters. My preferred news account has been having sporadic tech
problems at its point of origin.

So, Russ, who died and turned you into a turd?

Comparative tests of boat electronics?
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
RG wrote:

It's really sad to see you dissove into a newsgroup gnat sourpuss, Russ.
Did your wife leave you? Are your residuals from those whole life
policies you sold drying up? Cialyis not working for you?

Answering yet again to someone whom you've proclaimed to reside in your
killfile? Please, put me back.


Sadly, you do show up on one of my news accounts, which has fewer filters.
My preferred news account has been having sporadic tech problems at its
point of origin.

So, Russ, who died and turned you into a turd?



Maybe it's just the 'Real Russ' rearing his ugly head!

Comparative tests of boat electronics?
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
RG wrote:

It's really sad to see you dissove into a newsgroup gnat sourpuss, Russ.
Did your wife leave you? Are your residuals from those whole life
policies you sold drying up? Cialyis not working for you?

Answering yet again to someone whom you've proclaimed to reside in your
killfile? Please, put me back.


Sadly, you do show up on one of my news accounts, which has fewer filters.
My preferred news account has been having sporadic tech problems at its
point of origin.


Watching you backpedal Krause is enough to make one dizzy. Don't you ever
get tired of it? I never thought I'd see the day, but you've become
irrelevant in your own sand box. God, what an insufferable bore you've
become. These days, you make Dave look interesting in general, and credible
and authoritative as it relates to boating. How is that even possible?

Comparative tests of boat electronics?
 

On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:38:54 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:55:57 -0400, HK wrote:

I'm still looking for a small boat radar for the Ranger.


I thought that ranger was a bay boat?

Surely an old Connecticut yankee like yourself has seen Narragansett
Bay when it's foggy.

I've been caught in it and it ain't fun.

In particular if you are somewhere between the east end of Prudence
and the Bridge.