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Michael Noe June 13th 07 04:29 PM

port engine stalls generator
 
I just purchased an '01 Maxum 3500. When I start the port engine with
the generator running, it stalls the generator. Does anyone have any
idea what would cause this? Both engine batteries are new, the third
seems OK.

TIA.

Wayne.B June 13th 07 04:43 PM

port engine stalls generator
 
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:29:16 -0400, Michael Noe
wrote:

I just purchased an '01 Maxum 3500. When I start the port engine with
the generator running, it stalls the generator. Does anyone have any
idea what would cause this? Both engine batteries are new, the third
seems OK.


Is the generator battery in parallel with the port engine, or do they
share the same battery? If so, the most likely explanation is that
the port side starter motor is pulling down the voltage too low for
the electronic controls on the generator.

I'd start by cleaning and tightening all of the battery cable
connections, both ends. If possible isolate the port side engine
battery from the generator battery.


[email protected] June 14th 07 03:28 PM

port engine stalls generator
 
On Jun 13, 11:43 am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:29:16 -0400, Michael Noe

wrote:
I just purchased an '01 Maxum 3500. When I start the port engine with
the generator running, it stalls the generator. Does anyone have any
idea what would cause this? Both engine batteries are new, the third
seems OK.


Is the generator battery in parallel with the port engine, or do they
share the same battery? If so, the most likely explanation is that
the port side starter motor is pulling down the voltage too low for
the electronic controls on the generator.

I'd start by cleaning and tightening all of the battery cable
connections, both ends. If possible isolate the port side engine
battery from the generator battery.


How many volts do the controls run on, just curious? In cars, most of
the electronic controls and sensors run on 5 volts just in case you
have a draw down problem as you describe above. As to the origional
poster I agree with Wayne. Assuming you are confident the system
worked correctly as it is at one point I would pick up a roll of emery
cloth and some spider washers (locking spring washers) and start
cleaning connections from square one.


Capt John June 14th 07 05:33 PM

port engine stalls generator
 
On Jun 13, 11:29 am, Michael Noe
wrote:
I just purchased an '01 Maxum 3500. When I start the port engine with
the generator running, it stalls the generator. Does anyone have any
idea what would cause this? Both engine batteries are new, the third
seems OK.

TIA.


It's eather an electrical problem, or a fuel problem. If the port
engine and the generator share the same fuel feed that could be the
problem, if they don't, toss that idea. Now your generator should have
it's own alternator, which supplies it with it's own 12 volt power. If
that alternator isn't working, and the port engine and the generator
12 volt supply are tied together, the voltage drops when the port
engine cranks that should shut down the generator. A quick test is to
start the generator, and disconnect the generator from the battery. If
it stalls, the alternator isn't putting out any power. The battery
switch for the generator might not be set up so as to protect the
alternator if someone switches it to the off position while it's
running. If the alternator is bad just pull it off and bring it to a
rebuild shop, they can fix it better than new for a whole lot less
money. Let me know what you find.

John


jamesgangnc June 14th 07 06:56 PM

port engine stalls generator
 
On Jun 14, 12:33 pm, Capt John wrote:
On Jun 13, 11:29 am, Michael Noe
wrote:

I just purchased an '01 Maxum 3500. When I start the port engine with
the generator running, it stalls the generator. Does anyone have any
idea what would cause this? Both engine batteries are new, the third
seems OK.


TIA.


It's eather an electrical problem, or a fuel problem. If the port
engine and the generator share the same fuel feed that could be the
problem, if they don't, toss that idea. Now your generator should have
it's own alternator, which supplies it with it's own 12 volt power. If
that alternator isn't working, and the port engine and the generator
12 volt supply are tied together, the voltage drops when the port
engine cranks that should shut down the generator. A quick test is to
start the generator, and disconnect the generator from the battery. If
it stalls, the alternator isn't putting out any power. The battery
switch for the generator might not be set up so as to protect the
alternator if someone switches it to the off position while it's
running. If the alternator is bad just pull it off and bring it to a
rebuild shop, they can fix it better than new for a whole lot less
money. Let me know what you find.

John


It's not going to be fuel related. The gas in the generator carb
would keep it running for a minute or two even if you completely cut
off the fuel feed. The most likely scenario is the one Wayne posted
to start with. The voltage is getting pulled down by the engine
starter and some iffy connections are resulting in there not being
enough voltage to run the generator ignition so it stalls.

Your "quick test" is a good way to destroy an alternator by the way.
Without a battery as a load many alternators will put out enough
voltage to destroy the diodes in them. It exceeds the reverse voltage
rating of the diodes.


Ed June 22nd 07 12:17 AM

port engine stalls generator
 
Give your genny it's own battery... If not, you will have engine
alternator problems in your future unless you isolate. My 48 was set up
like that and after 3 alternators I gave up and added a separate gen
battery and no more problems...



jamesgangnc wrote:
On Jun 14, 12:33 pm, Capt John wrote:

On Jun 13, 11:29 am, Michael Noe
wrote:


I just purchased an '01 Maxum 3500. When I start the port engine with
the generator running, it stalls the generator. Does anyone have any
idea what would cause this? Both engine batteries are new, the third
seems OK.


TIA.


It's eather an electrical problem, or a fuel problem. If the port
engine and the generator share the same fuel feed that could be the
problem, if they don't, toss that idea. Now your generator should have
it's own alternator, which supplies it with it's own 12 volt power. If
that alternator isn't working, and the port engine and the generator
12 volt supply are tied together, the voltage drops when the port
engine cranks that should shut down the generator. A quick test is to
start the generator, and disconnect the generator from the battery. If
it stalls, the alternator isn't putting out any power. The battery
switch for the generator might not be set up so as to protect the
alternator if someone switches it to the off position while it's
running. If the alternator is bad just pull it off and bring it to a
rebuild shop, they can fix it better than new for a whole lot less
money. Let me know what you find.

John



It's not going to be fuel related. The gas in the generator carb
would keep it running for a minute or two even if you completely cut
off the fuel feed. The most likely scenario is the one Wayne posted
to start with. The voltage is getting pulled down by the engine
starter and some iffy connections are resulting in there not being
enough voltage to run the generator ignition so it stalls.

Your "quick test" is a good way to destroy an alternator by the way.
Without a battery as a load many alternators will put out enough
voltage to destroy the diodes in them. It exceeds the reverse voltage
rating of the diodes.




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