On Jun 1, 4:52?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

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On Jun 1, 2:51?pm, "Don White" wrote:
Sgt. Pepper taught the band to play...........

Hard to believe...http://www.cbc.ca/ns/

scroll down right hand side to 'story of the week'.

That the Beatles abandoned any pretense of being a rock 'n roll band.

ROTFLMAO! Why do you think the Sgt. Peppers album was so important?

Exactly like the commentator on Don's video observed, it marked the
point where the Beatles gave up on Rock n Roll and moved into
experimental pop.

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On Jun 1, 4:52?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

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On Jun 1, 2:51?pm, "Don White" wrote:
Sgt. Pepper taught the band to play...........

Hard to believe...http://www.cbc.ca/ns/

scroll down right hand side to 'story of the week'.

That the Beatles abandoned any pretense of being a rock 'n roll band.

ROTFLMAO! Why do you think the Sgt. Peppers album was so important?

Exactly like the commentator on Don's video observed, it marked the
point where the Beatles gave up on Rock n Roll and moved into
experimental pop.

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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On Jun 1, 4:52?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

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On Jun 1, 2:51?pm, "Don White" wrote:
Sgt. Pepper taught the band to play...........

Hard to believe...http://www.cbc.ca/ns/

scroll down right hand side to 'story of the week'.

That the Beatles abandoned any pretense of being a rock 'n roll band.

ROTFLMAO! Why do you think the Sgt. Peppers album was so important?

Exactly like the commentator on Don's video observed, it marked the
point where the Beatles gave up on Rock n Roll and moved into
experimental pop.



I did not look at Don's video.

I guess great minds think alike.

BTW: You have it turned around.......they moved from pop to R&R with this
album..

On Jun 1, 6:10?pm, "JimH" wrote:


BTW: You have it turned around.......they moved from pop to R&R with this
album..- Hide quoted text -

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(friendly retort.....)
You guys have an odd defintion of rock and roll back there.
Rock obviously meant something different on the west coast.

Ok, here's the acid test. (pun intended)

Which would you rather *dance* to.....

Roll Over Beethoven (Second Album), or Fixing a Hole (Sgt Pepper)?

Long Tall Sally (Second Album), or Lovely Rita Meter Maid (Sgt
Pepper)?
(that's dance, not march....Lovely Rita would make a better march)

Even the boring and simplist rhythm line of "She Loves You...(ya ya
ya)" from the second album beats heck out of "For the Benefit of Mr.
Kite" from Sgt Pepper- which is most absolutely a march by any
standard.


And the final arbiter, (big grin here), of course....how much does it
sound like the Rolling Stones? [Brown Sugar vs. A Day in the Life]
The Stones never forgot how to rock n roll. The Beatles grew bored
with rock, began taking themselves seriously as musicians, and Sgt
Pepper was a deliberate attempt to leave the "Beatle" era behind.

Actual rock groups from the era, in addition to the Rolling Stones, of
course, include very non-Beatly acts like Jimi Hendrix, Cream, Grace
Slick and the Jefferson Airplane, the Doors, etc. Even Bob Dylan
outrocked the Beatles, (on Hwy 61).

Try dancing to "Strawberry Fields Forever"..... :-)

What do you listen to on your boat?

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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On Jun 1, 6:10?pm, "JimH" wrote:


BTW: You have it turned around.......they moved from pop to R&R with
this
album..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

(friendly retort.....)
You guys have an odd defintion of rock and roll back there.
Rock obviously meant something different on the west coast.

Ok, here's the acid test. (pun intended)

Which would you rather *dance* to.....


I don't dance but if I did it would be to their early pop songs.

BTW: R&R started in Cleveland, not on the west coast. ;-)

On Jun 2, 5:19?am, "JimH" wrote:
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On Jun 1, 6:10?pm, "JimH" wrote:

BTW: You have it turned around.......they moved from pop to R&R with
this
album..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

(friendly retort.....)
You guys have an odd defintion of rock and roll back there.
Rock obviously meant something different on the west coast.

Ok, here's the acid test. (pun intended)

Which would you rather *dance* to.....

I don't dance but if I did it would be to their early pop songs.

BTW: R&R started in Cleveland, not on the west coast. ;-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Rock 'n Roll was born in Memphis Tennesee, on March 3, 1951. That's
the day that Sam Phillips recorded Ike Turner's "Rocket 88"- a 12 bar
blues that discographers generallly agree was the first actual rock 'n
roll record. The record was credited to Jackie Brentson and his Delta
Cats, but it was really Ike Turner's band and Jackie Brentson was his
sax player.

Bill Haley recorded a version of Rocket 88 in June of '51. Back in the
highly segregated early 50's, it was OK to buy a Bill Haley record in
a lot of places where it wouldn't be considered proper to buy a
recording by Ike Turner, so Bill Haley (who did Rock Around The Clock
a couple of years later) had a bit more commercial success with his
record, at this point, than did Ike Turner.

So that's the Memphis version. Thank Sam Phillips and Sun Records for
rock 'n roll, IMO.

What's Cleveland's claim to fame?

Rock music wasn't invented on the west coast, merely perfected here.
:-) The world is still waiting for somebody to top Seattle's own Jimi
Hendrix. :-) :-)

Outta here for the weekend.....

On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 06:09:25 -0700, Chuck Gould
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On Jun 2, 5:19?am, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

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On Jun 1, 6:10?pm, "JimH" wrote:

BTW: You have it turned around.......they moved from pop to R&R with
this
album..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

(friendly retort.....)
You guys have an odd defintion of rock and roll back there.
Rock obviously meant something different on the west coast.

Ok, here's the acid test. (pun intended)

Which would you rather *dance* to.....

I don't dance but if I did it would be to their early pop songs.

BTW: R&R started in Cleveland, not on the west coast. ;-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Rock 'n Roll was born in Memphis Tennesee, on March 3, 1951. That's
the day that Sam Phillips recorded Ike Turner's "Rocket 88"- a 12 bar
blues that discographers generallly agree was the first actual rock 'n
roll record. The record was credited to Jackie Brentson and his Delta
Cats, but it was really Ike Turner's band and Jackie Brentson was his
sax player.

Bill Haley recorded a version of Rocket 88 in June of '51. Back in the
highly segregated early 50's, it was OK to buy a Bill Haley record in
a lot of places where it wouldn't be considered proper to buy a
recording by Ike Turner, so Bill Haley (who did Rock Around The Clock
a couple of years later) had a bit more commercial success with his
record, at this point, than did Ike Turner.

So that's the Memphis version. Thank Sam Phillips and Sun Records for
rock 'n roll, IMO.

What's Cleveland's claim to fame?

Rock music wasn't invented on the west coast, merely perfected here.
:-) The world is still waiting for somebody to top Seattle's own Jimi
Hendrix. :-) :-)

Outta here for the weekend.....

Have a good one!

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On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 06:09:25 -0700, Chuck Gould
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On Jun 2, 5:19?am, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

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On Jun 1, 6:10?pm, "JimH" wrote:

BTW: You have it turned around.......they moved from pop to R&R with
this
album..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

(friendly retort.....)
You guys have an odd defintion of rock and roll back there.
Rock obviously meant something different on the west coast.

Ok, here's the acid test. (pun intended)

Which would you rather *dance* to.....

I don't dance but if I did it would be to their early pop songs.

BTW: R&R started in Cleveland, not on the west coast. ;-)- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Rock 'n Roll was born in Memphis Tennesee, on March 3, 1951. That's
the day that Sam Phillips recorded Ike Turner's "Rocket 88"- a 12 bar
blues that discographers generallly agree was the first actual rock 'n
roll record. The record was credited to Jackie Brentson and his Delta
Cats, but it was really Ike Turner's band and Jackie Brentson was his
sax player.

Bill Haley recorded a version of Rocket 88 in June of '51. Back in the
highly segregated early 50's, it was OK to buy a Bill Haley record in
a lot of places where it wouldn't be considered proper to buy a
recording by Ike Turner, so Bill Haley (who did Rock Around The Clock
a couple of years later) had a bit more commercial success with his
record, at this point, than did Ike Turner.

So that's the Memphis version. Thank Sam Phillips and Sun Records for
rock 'n roll, IMO.

What's Cleveland's claim to fame?

Rock music wasn't invented on the west coast, merely perfected here.
:-) The world is still waiting for somebody to top Seattle's own Jimi
Hendrix. :-) :-)

Outta here for the weekend.....

Have a good one!


What...no kisses & hugs?

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On Jun 2, 5:19?am, "JimH" wrote:
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What's Cleveland's claim to fame?



http://www.history-of-rock.com/freed.htm

We are heading out to the boat in about an hour. Have a nice weekend.

JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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On Jun 2, 5:19?am, "JimH" wrote:
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What's Cleveland's claim to fame?



http://www.history-of-rock.com/freed.htm

Nah. George Szell when he conducted the Cleveland Orchestra. During his
tenure, the Cleveland was one of the finest orchestras in the world.