"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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I just spent the evening with a bunch of REAL teachers - the ones who
were
able to put up with their kids for more than 10 years. I have zero
sympathy
for John's troubles with teaching.


I've been in the business for 34 years.

There are a lot of variables. Lacking an administration that has
sufficient male genitalia to actually administrate.... 10 years is a
lifetime.

Perhaps assertiveness training should be a requirement for students
training
to be teachers.


Assertiveness isn't a problem for teachers. Administrators that see
themselves only as good will ambassadors to the community need the
training.

I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s): ****
the
community. Take care of the students.


I remember a cleansing of those same teachers in the mid 70's to early
80's...... they are gone...... many, without a retirement. A big
*thanks* for their years of service and commitment.....


I assume that was in a school district where your kids went to school. Why
was there a purge?

On Thu, 31 May 2007 21:56:28 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

I will bet that if you were around a group of teachers with more than
10 years experience, you were in a small percentage of teachers in
that system

There are 74 teachers in our local school public school system (not
including high school). Out of 74 teachers, 45 have over twenty years
experience in that same school system and an additional 8 have over
twenty years experience total.

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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:21:10 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:02:06 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:31:03 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
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I just spent the evening with a bunch of REAL teachers - the ones who
were
able to put up with their kids for more than 10 years. I have zero
sympathy
for John's troubles with teaching.

I've been in the business for 34 years.

There are a lot of variables. Lacking an administration that has
sufficient male genitalia to actually administrate.... 10 years is a
lifetime.
Perhaps assertiveness training should be a requirement for students
training
to be teachers.

Assertiveness isn't a problem for teachers. Administrators that see
themselves only as good will ambassadors to the community need the
training.
I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s): ****
the
community. Take care of the students.

I remember a cleansing of those same teachers in the mid 70's to early
80's...... they are gone...... many, without a retirement. A big
*thanks* for their years of service and commitment.....


I assume that was in a school district where your kids went to school. Why
was there a purge?




Why, to find more compliant workers and to screw veteran teachers out of
a retirement. This is Amerika, remember? Workers are disposable.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:21:10 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:02:06 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:31:03 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


I just spent the evening with a bunch of REAL teachers - the ones who
were
able to put up with their kids for more than 10 years. I have zero
sympathy
for John's troubles with teaching.

I've been in the business for 34 years.

There are a lot of variables. Lacking an administration that has
sufficient male genitalia to actually administrate.... 10 years is a
lifetime.
Perhaps assertiveness training should be a requirement for students
training
to be teachers.

Assertiveness isn't a problem for teachers. Administrators that see
themselves only as good will ambassadors to the community need the
training.
I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s): ****
the
community. Take care of the students.

I remember a cleansing of those same teachers in the mid 70's to early
80's...... they are gone...... many, without a retirement. A big
*thanks* for their years of service and commitment.....


I assume that was in a school district where your kids went to school. Why
was there a purge?

Political correctness.

There was a major shift in thinking in teaching in the late 60's and
early 70's that was not for the better.

Feel gooder's and whiner's took over the public education system and
started turning out students that felt good about being know nothing
idiots.

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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:21:10 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:02:06 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:31:03 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the
following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


I just spent the evening with a bunch of REAL teachers - the ones
who
were
able to put up with their kids for more than 10 years. I have zero
sympathy
for John's troubles with teaching.

I've been in the business for 34 years.

There are a lot of variables. Lacking an administration that has
sufficient male genitalia to actually administrate.... 10 years is a
lifetime.
Perhaps assertiveness training should be a requirement for students
training
to be teachers.

Assertiveness isn't a problem for teachers. Administrators that see
themselves only as good will ambassadors to the community need the
training.
I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s):
**** the
community. Take care of the students.

I remember a cleansing of those same teachers in the mid 70's to early
80's...... they are gone...... many, without a retirement. A big
*thanks* for their years of service and commitment.....


I assume that was in a school district where your kids went to school.
Why was there a purge?

Political correctness.

There was a major shift in thinking in teaching in the late 60's and early
70's that was not for the better.

Feel gooder's and whiner's took over the public education system and
started turning out students that felt good about being know nothing
idiots.


I hear this broad generalization a lot, but I'm closely acquainted with 3
school systems (now, not my own ancient history), and I just don't see it.
Now, I assume (correctly) that when I hear someone say this, it's because
they heard it from some talk show blubber ass.

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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:21:10 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:02:06 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:31:03 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:



I just spent the evening with a bunch of REAL teachers - the ones who
were
able to put up with their kids for more than 10 years. I have zero
sympathy
for John's troubles with teaching.


I've been in the business for 34 years.

There are a lot of variables. Lacking an administration that has
sufficient male genitalia to actually administrate.... 10 years is a
lifetime.

Perhaps assertiveness training should be a requirement for students
training
to be teachers.


Assertiveness isn't a problem for teachers. Administrators that see
themselves only as good will ambassadors to the community need the
training.

I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s): ****
the
community. Take care of the students.


Times have changed. School boards are elected. School boards hire
superintendents, who hire and fire principals, who react to parents, who
call their local school board member.

I haven't seen this problem. Give me examples. Why do parents call, and
about what?

"John H." wrote in message
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I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s): ****
the
community. Take care of the students.


Times have changed. School boards are elected. School boards hire
superintendents, who hire and fire principals, who react to parents, who
call their local school board member.

I haven't seen this problem. Give me examples. Why do parents call, and
about what?


No. I've better things to do than write examples. If you live in a
district
without elected school boards who hire superintendents who hire principals
who react to parents who vote for the school board, then it would be an
exercise in futility to explain how the system works.


You have no problem finding the time to dump meaningless little messages
here all day long. Give up 10 of those for a day, and you'll have the time
to explain what you're talking about.

Otherwise, we will assume you have NO examples.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s): ****
the
community. Take care of the students.

Times have changed. School boards are elected. School boards hire
superintendents, who hire and fire principals, who react to parents, who
call their local school board member.
I haven't seen this problem. Give me examples. Why do parents call, and
about what?

No. I've better things to do than write examples. If you live in a
district
without elected school boards who hire superintendents who hire principals
who react to parents who vote for the school board, then it would be an
exercise in futility to explain how the system works.


You have no problem finding the time to dump meaningless little messages
here all day long. Give up 10 of those for a day, and you'll have the time
to explain what you're talking about.

Otherwise, we will assume you have NO examples.




Crikey, Herring really is an ignorant ass. When I was in public school
back in the dark ages, we had an elected school board responsible for
hiring the superintendent of schools. He thinks this is something new?

The Northern Virginia schools are better off without a racist ass like
Herring. I recall his constant whining about the black kids he had to
teach and the noisy Hispanics who lived down the block. He should have
stayed in the Army.

"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 08:13:52 -0400, HK wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s):
****
the
community. Take care of the students.

Times have changed. School boards are elected. School boards hire
superintendents, who hire and fire principals, who react to parents,
who
call their local school board member.
I haven't seen this problem. Give me examples. Why do parents call,
and
about what?

No. I've better things to do than write examples. If you live in a
district
without elected school boards who hire superintendents who hire
principals
who react to parents who vote for the school board, then it would be an
exercise in futility to explain how the system works.


You have no problem finding the time to dump meaningless little messages
here all day long. Give up 10 of those for a day, and you'll have the
time
to explain what you're talking about.

Otherwise, we will assume you have NO examples.




Crikey, Herring really is an ignorant ass. When I was in public school
back in the dark ages, we had an elected school board responsible for
hiring the superintendent of schools. He thinks this is something new?

The Northern Virginia schools are better off without a racist ass like
Herring. I recall his constant whining about the black kids he had to
teach and the noisy Hispanics who lived down the block. He should have
stayed in the Army.

Harrie, you are *such* a neat guy! It's no wonder you're adored by so
many!

There goes 15 seconds wasted, when you could've posted something useful.

"John H." wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 11:59:08 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s):
****
the
community. Take care of the students.


Times have changed. School boards are elected. School boards hire
superintendents, who hire and fire principals, who react to parents,
who
call their local school board member.

I haven't seen this problem. Give me examples. Why do parents call, and
about what?


No. I've better things to do than write examples. If you live in a
district
without elected school boards who hire superintendents who hire
principals
who react to parents who vote for the school board, then it would be an
exercise in futility to explain how the system works.


You have no problem finding the time to dump meaningless little messages
here all day long. Give up 10 of those for a day, and you'll have the time
to explain what you're talking about.

Otherwise, we will assume you have NO examples.


Assume away!

Another 15 seconds....