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I just spent the evening with a bunch of REAL teachers - the ones who
were
able to put up with their kids for more than 10 years. I have zero
sympathy
for John's troubles with teaching.


I've been in the business for 34 years.

There are a lot of variables. Lacking an administration that has
sufficient male genitalia to actually administrate.... 10 years is a
lifetime.

Perhaps assertiveness training should be a requirement for students
training
to be teachers.


Assertiveness isn't a problem for teachers. Administrators that see
themselves only as good will ambassadors to the community need the
training.

I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s): ****
the
community. Take care of the students.


I remember a cleansing of those same teachers in the mid 70's to early
80's...... they are gone...... many, without a retirement. A big
*thanks* for their years of service and commitment.....


I assume that was in a school district where your kids went to school. Why
was there a purge?

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:21:10 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:02:06 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:31:03 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
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I just spent the evening with a bunch of REAL teachers - the ones who
were
able to put up with their kids for more than 10 years. I have zero
sympathy
for John's troubles with teaching.

I've been in the business for 34 years.

There are a lot of variables. Lacking an administration that has
sufficient male genitalia to actually administrate.... 10 years is a
lifetime.
Perhaps assertiveness training should be a requirement for students
training
to be teachers.

Assertiveness isn't a problem for teachers. Administrators that see
themselves only as good will ambassadors to the community need the
training.
I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s): ****
the
community. Take care of the students.

I remember a cleansing of those same teachers in the mid 70's to early
80's...... they are gone...... many, without a retirement. A big
*thanks* for their years of service and commitment.....


I assume that was in a school district where your kids went to school. Why
was there a purge?




Why, to find more compliant workers and to screw veteran teachers out of
a retirement. This is Amerika, remember? Workers are disposable.

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:21:10 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:02:06 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:31:03 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


I just spent the evening with a bunch of REAL teachers - the ones who
were
able to put up with their kids for more than 10 years. I have zero
sympathy
for John's troubles with teaching.

I've been in the business for 34 years.

There are a lot of variables. Lacking an administration that has
sufficient male genitalia to actually administrate.... 10 years is a
lifetime.
Perhaps assertiveness training should be a requirement for students
training
to be teachers.

Assertiveness isn't a problem for teachers. Administrators that see
themselves only as good will ambassadors to the community need the
training.
I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s): ****
the
community. Take care of the students.

I remember a cleansing of those same teachers in the mid 70's to early
80's...... they are gone...... many, without a retirement. A big
*thanks* for their years of service and commitment.....


I assume that was in a school district where your kids went to school. Why
was there a purge?

Political correctness.

There was a major shift in thinking in teaching in the late 60's and
early 70's that was not for the better.

Feel gooder's and whiner's took over the public education system and
started turning out students that felt good about being know nothing
idiots.

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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:21:10 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:02:06 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:31:03 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the
following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


I just spent the evening with a bunch of REAL teachers - the ones
who
were
able to put up with their kids for more than 10 years. I have zero
sympathy
for John's troubles with teaching.

I've been in the business for 34 years.

There are a lot of variables. Lacking an administration that has
sufficient male genitalia to actually administrate.... 10 years is a
lifetime.
Perhaps assertiveness training should be a requirement for students
training
to be teachers.

Assertiveness isn't a problem for teachers. Administrators that see
themselves only as good will ambassadors to the community need the
training.
I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s):
**** the
community. Take care of the students.

I remember a cleansing of those same teachers in the mid 70's to early
80's...... they are gone...... many, without a retirement. A big
*thanks* for their years of service and commitment.....


I assume that was in a school district where your kids went to school.
Why was there a purge?

Political correctness.

There was a major shift in thinking in teaching in the late 60's and early
70's that was not for the better.

Feel gooder's and whiner's took over the public education system and
started turning out students that felt good about being know nothing
idiots.


I hear this broad generalization a lot, but I'm closely acquainted with 3
school systems (now, not my own ancient history), and I just don't see it.
Now, I assume (correctly) that when I hear someone say this, it's because
they heard it from some talk show blubber ass.

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news On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:21:10 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:02:06 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 01:31:03 GMT, JoeSpareBedroom penned the
following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


I just spent the evening with a bunch of REAL teachers - the ones
who
were
able to put up with their kids for more than 10 years. I have zero
sympathy
for John's troubles with teaching.

I've been in the business for 34 years.

There are a lot of variables. Lacking an administration that has
sufficient male genitalia to actually administrate.... 10 years is a
lifetime.
Perhaps assertiveness training should be a requirement for students
training
to be teachers.

Assertiveness isn't a problem for teachers. Administrators that see
themselves only as good will ambassadors to the community need the
training.
I remember a distinct attitude among my best teachers (late 1960s):
**** the
community. Take care of the students.

I remember a cleansing of those same teachers in the mid 70's to early
80's...... they are gone...... many, without a retirement. A big
*thanks* for their years of service and commitment.....

I assume that was in a school district where your kids went to school.
Why was there a purge?
Political correctness.

There was a major shift in thinking in teaching in the late 60's and early
70's that was not for the better.

Feel gooder's and whiner's took over the public education system and
started turning out students that felt good about being know nothing
idiots.


I hear this broad generalization a lot, but I'm closely acquainted with 3
school systems (now, not my own ancient history), and I just don't see it.
Now, I assume (correctly) that when I hear someone say this, it's because
they heard it from some talk show blubber ass.

Actually I lived through it, the eyes and ears of a student in Jr/Sr
high in the '70's. You could see it creeping in with the younger
teachers. The older teachers were still willing to teach the facts and
not the beliefs.