a leak...
 

got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the first time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat mechanic says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it. he gives me a price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

a leak...
 

longshot wrote:

got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the first
time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat
mechanic says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it. he
gives me a price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now
another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!



Are you talking about a gasket between the boot on an outdrive and the
transom? The transom is part of the hull. Well, it is on most boats. Was
it an afterthought on Bayliners of that vintage?

a leak...
 

On May 15, 11:54 am, "longshot" wrote:


$3100 for the boast ,

Yup. The guy you bought it from is still boasting about how he found a
buyer. :-)



$80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now another $400 for
the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

Don't be surprised if repairs surpass the price of the boat by the end
of the 2nd season.
Old boats bought cheaply usually cost a lot more to run, per hour,
than a newer boat would. Normally, that's why somebody gave up in
total frustration and sold it cheaply to begin with.

Did you buy this boat from a dealer or privte party? Sounds like you
didn't get a chance to splash and run it before buying, ($80 to
dewinterize). If you bought it from a dealer you might try going back
an asking for some assistance. There are some who would say, "tough
toenails, we sold it cheap and as-is so deal with it." Others might be
a bit more progressve and remark, "You bought the boat as is, but your
satisfaction is important to us and our reputation. If you let us
repair it in our shop, we'll charge you for the part but absorb the
labor."

If you bought from a private party you can't expect any assistance at
all. 10 to 1 odds the seller will claim he "didn't know" the boat had
a bad boot, whether he actually did or not.

a leak...
 

"longshot" wrote in message news:Rln2i.5771$vu2.470@trndny01...

got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the first time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat mechanic says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it. he gives me a price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?

These days, to get a boat mechanic to show up and pee in your bilge for $300-400 is reasonable. For him to actually fix something for that price is an outright steal.

1. The problem you mention is a common one.

2. Yes, the engine does need to be pulled to replace the seal.

3. $300-400 is more than reasonable for the job, assuming the mechanic is competent to do it correctly.


___________________________

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

I've got bad news for you, sunshine. You're just barely getting started. You have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about, but you will.

To verify where the leak is, fill the bilge with a garden hose while the boat is on the trailer. Fill it high enough to involve the bottom of the transom mount for the outdrive, but low enough not to involve the starter motor or any other electrics. If you have an automatic bilge pump, temporarily disable it. Observe where the water exits at the transom. Leak found and confirmed. Drain bilge by removing the plug. Sometimes the drain plug itself can be the source of the leak, which is a cheap fix.

a leak...
 

___________________________

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

I've got bad news for you, sunshine. You're just barely getting started. You have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about, but you will.



exactly what i was afraid of

a leak...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
longshot wrote:
got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the first
time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat
mechanic says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it. he
gives me a price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?
$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now
another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!



Are you talking about a gasket between the boot on an outdrive and the
transom? The transom is part of the hull. Well, it is on most boats. Was
it an afterthought on Bayliners of that vintage?


i guess so, its behind that boot, you really can't see the leak because of
the motor on one side & the outdrive on the other

a leak...
 

longshot wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
longshot wrote:
got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the first
time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat
mechanic says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it. he
gives me a price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?
$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now
another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!


Are you talking about a gasket between the boot on an outdrive and the
transom? The transom is part of the hull. Well, it is on most boats. Was
it an afterthought on Bayliners of that vintage?


i guess so, its behind that boot, you really can't see the leak because of
the motor on one side & the outdrive on the other



If you are paying that much, make sure the dealer checks everything for
cracks, leaks, whatever.

a leak...
 

On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:54:41 GMT, "longshot" wrote:

got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the
first time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat
mechanic says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it.
he gives me a price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees,
now another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

Oy - you will soon learn that BOAT stands for Bring Over Another
Thousand or Break Out Another Thousand.

BOAT can also mean Boat Operator Accredited Training but that's only
in Canada there they use hockey pucks for fuel.

See if I'm not right - this boat will cost you just about $3,100 by
the time the season is over. :)

Hey - it's only money. :)

a leak...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:54:41 GMT, "longshot" wrote:

got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the
first time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat
mechanic says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it.
he gives me a price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees,
now another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

Oy - you will soon learn that BOAT stands for Bring Over Another
Thousand or Break Out Another Thousand.

BOAT can also mean Boat Operator Accredited Training but that's only
in Canada there they use hockey pucks for fuel.

See if I'm not right - this boat will cost you just about $3,100 by
the time the season is over. :)

yeah, but not every season, right?

a leak...
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 15, 11:54 am, "longshot" wrote:


$3100 for the boast ,

Yup. The guy you bought it from is still boasting about how he found a
buyer. :-)



$80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now another $400 for
the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

Don't be surprised if repairs surpass the price of the boat by the end
of the 2nd season.
Old boats bought cheaply usually cost a lot more to run, per hour,
than a newer boat would. Normally, that's why somebody gave up in
total frustration and sold it cheaply to begin with.

Did you buy this boat from a dealer or privte party? Sounds like you
didn't get a chance to splash and run it before buying, ($80 to
dewinterize). If you bought it from a dealer you might try going back
an asking for some assistance. There are some who would say, "tough
toenails, we sold it cheap and as-is so deal with it." Others might be
a bit more progressve and remark, "You bought the boat as is, but your
satisfaction is important to us and our reputation. If you let us
repair it in our shop, we'll charge you for the part but absorb the
labor."

If you bought from a private party you can't expect any assistance at
all. 10 to 1 odds the seller will claim he "didn't know" the boat had
a bad boot, whether he actually did or not.



I bought it from a guy, that bought it at the end of the summer last
season. He took it to a mechanic/ storage facility, they replaced the boot
thinking that was the leak. $800 bucks worth of labor. Said bayliner has a
new $600 cover on it/ Trailer was replaced in 1995 with a shore lander & is
in perfect shape. Cushions in Cuddy are newer. all vinyl is in good shape,
all wood / fiberglass on the boat is solid. engine is a 305 & runs smooth.
started up within 3 tries.

a leak...
 

"longshot" wrote in message
news:4so2i.19044$5Z6.7901@trndny05...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:54:41 GMT, "longshot" wrote:

got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the
first time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat
mechanic says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it.
he gives me a price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees,
now another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

Oy - you will soon learn that BOAT stands for Bring Over Another
Thousand or Break Out Another Thousand.

BOAT can also mean Boat Operator Accredited Training but that's only
in Canada there they use hockey pucks for fuel.

See if I'm not right - this boat will cost you just about $3,100 by
the time the season is over. :)

yeah, but not every season, right?


Boating is not a cheap hobby, especially now that fuel prices are going
through the roof.

When you consider repairs/maintenance, fuel and insurance $3,100 for the
year is actually a possibility. Add to that either the cost of dockage or
fuel/wear and tear for the tow vehicle and may be hitting $4,000.

Now add the possibility of a large repair on the engine or outdrive and you
could be at $6,000-$7,000.

Did I say that boating is not a cheap *hobby*?

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On Tue, 15 May 2007 20:09:36 GMT, "longshot" wrote:

See if I'm not right - this boat will cost you just about $3,100 by
the time the season is over. :)

yeah, but not every season, right?

We'll see.

I wish I could get my costs that low.

a leak...
 

On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:54:41 GMT, "longshot" wrote:


got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the first time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat mechanic says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it. he gives me a price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

Don't let all of these guys get you all bummed out. Sure, "a boat is a
hole in the water into which you throw money" and you will have to a)
spend some money on maintenance every year and b) learn to do some of
that maintenance yourself, but check out the price on a similar new
boat ;-(

Accept that a few things will come up each year. Try to be proactive
in identifying where the weaknesses are and then fix those that
require fixing. Then enjoy the boat. If you are thinking that you will
get to just put in gas though, you are in for a rude awakening...

a leak...
 

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:54:41 GMT, "longshot" wrote:


got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the first
time last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat mechanic
says the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it. he gives me a
price of 300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now
another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

Don't let all of these guys get you all bummed out. Sure, "a boat is a
hole in the water into which you throw money" and you will have to a)
spend some money on maintenance every year and b) learn to do some of
that maintenance yourself, but check out the price on a similar new
boat ;-(

Accept that a few things will come up each year. Try to be proactive
in identifying where the weaknesses are and then fix those that
require fixing. Then enjoy the boat. If you are thinking that you will
get to just put in gas though, you are in for a rude awakening...


I wish I had read all the advice given in this thread *before* I purchased
my first boat many, many years back. I did not have the resources available
on the internet back then though.

The first year of operation can be an eye opener for a first time boater,
especially if not doing his/her homework. No use in throwing the dirt
under the carpet for these newbies..........it is best to tell it like it
is. ;-)

a leak...
 

On May 15, 1:10 pm, "longshot" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

oups.com...





On May 15, 11:54 am, "longshot" wrote:

$3100 for the boast ,

Yup. The guy you bought it from is still boasting about how he found a
buyer. :-)

$80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now another $400 for
the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

Don't be surprised if repairs surpass the price of the boat by the end
of the 2nd season.
Old boats bought cheaply usually cost a lot more to run, per hour,
than a newer boat would. Normally, that's why somebody gave up in
total frustration and sold it cheaply to begin with.

Did you buy this boat from a dealer or privte party? Sounds like you
didn't get a chance to splash and run it before buying, ($80 to
dewinterize). If you bought it from a dealer you might try going back
an asking for some assistance. There are some who would say, "tough
toenails, we sold it cheap and as-is so deal with it." Others might be
a bit more progressve and remark, "You bought the boat as is, but your
satisfaction is important to us and our reputation. If you let us
repair it in our shop, we'll charge you for the part but absorb the
labor."

If you bought from a private party you can't expect any assistance at
all. 10 to 1 odds the seller will claim he "didn't know" the boat had
a bad boot, whether he actually did or not.

I bought it from a guy, that bought it at the end of the summer last
season. He took it to a mechanic/ storage facility, they replaced the boot
thinking that was the leak. $800 bucks worth of labor. Said bayliner has a
new $600 cover on it/ Trailer was replaced in 1995 with a shore lander & is
in perfect shape. Cushions in Cuddy are newer. all vinyl is in good shape,
all wood / fiberglass on the boat is solid. engine is a 305 & runs smooth.
started up within 3 tries.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You might experiment with going back to the place that charged $800 to
fix this last fall.
Even if it was for the previous owner, you haven't used the boat so
it's the same a when it was taken into their shop. Of course they will
say "It needed a new boot anyway......" but it's worth a shot even if
it's a long one.

a leak...
 

"longshot" wrote in message
news:Rln2i.5771$vu2.470@trndny01...

got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the first time
last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat mechanic says
the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it. he gives me a price of
300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now
another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!






I have an 85 Bayliner 19' CC, and the best investment I could have made was
the Volvo Penta repair manual. I replaced my own outdrive bellows last year
for the cost of the bellows on ebay... have converted to electronic
ignition, changed belts and plug wires, rebuilt carburetor,
winterized/dewinterized 3 seasons, installed new impeller every 2 years,
changed my own oil yearly, etc, etc, etc. If not for these things, this
puppy would easily cost big bucks every year in bull**** maintenance.

The marine repair places have a racket going, and they know it. $800 to
replace the outdrive boot? It took me 90 minutes, and that included a
thorough inspection of the u-joints and measuring/adjusting/greasing minor
stuff like the locking pawl. I think the boot was about 50 bucks.

Buy the manual, get out your tools, and get to know your boat. Tell your
mechanic to go jump in the lake.

a leak...
 

On May 16, 12:25 am, "Steven Vaughan" wrote:
"longshot" wrote in message

news:Rln2i.5771$vu2.470@trndny01...

got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the first time
last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat mechanic says
the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it. he gives me a price of
300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now
another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

I have an 85 Bayliner 19' CC, and the best investment I could have made was
the Volvo Penta repair manual. I replaced my own outdrive bellows last year
for the cost of the bellows on ebay... have converted to electronic
ignition, changed belts and plug wires, rebuilt carburetor,
winterized/dewinterized 3 seasons, installed new impeller every 2 years,
changed my own oil yearly, etc, etc, etc. If not for these things, this
puppy would easily cost big bucks every year in bull**** maintenance.

The marine repair places have a racket going, and they know it. $800 to
replace the outdrive boot? It took me 90 minutes, and that included a
thorough inspection of the u-joints and measuring/adjusting/greasing minor
stuff like the locking pawl. I think the boot was about 50 bucks.

Buy the manual, get out your tools, and get to know your boat. Tell your
mechanic to go jump in the lake.

An old boat is only a bargain if you do your own maintenance. That
you paid someone $80 to "dewinterize" it is not a good sign.

a leak...
 

"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
s.com...
On May 16, 12:25 am, "Steven Vaughan" wrote:
"longshot" wrote in message

news:Rln2i.5771$vu2.470@trndny01...

got my not so shiny new to me 1987 Bayliner in the water for the first
time
last night... I have a leak between the transom & hull. boat mechanic
says
the motor has to be pulled to put a new gasket on it. he gives me a price
of
300-400. is this a reasonable price?

$3100 for the boast , $80 to dewinterize... $358 in title/tax fees, now
another $400 for the leak... arrrrgggghhh!

I have an 85 Bayliner 19' CC, and the best investment I could have made
was
the Volvo Penta repair manual. I replaced my own outdrive bellows last
year
for the cost of the bellows on ebay... have converted to electronic
ignition, changed belts and plug wires, rebuilt carburetor,
winterized/dewinterized 3 seasons, installed new impeller every 2 years,
changed my own oil yearly, etc, etc, etc. If not for these things, this
puppy would easily cost big bucks every year in bull**** maintenance.

The marine repair places have a racket going, and they know it. $800 to
replace the outdrive boot? It took me 90 minutes, and that included a
thorough inspection of the u-joints and measuring/adjusting/greasing
minor
stuff like the locking pawl. I think the boot was about 50 bucks.

Buy the manual, get out your tools, and get to know your boat. Tell your
mechanic to go jump in the lake.

An old boat is only a bargain if you do your own maintenance. That
you paid someone $80 to "dewinterize" it is not a good sign.


Agree.. everytime some newbie arrives at the newsgroup for my Sandpiper 565
I tell them the same thing. Don't buy the beat up clunker to save a grand
or two.....wait for a later model creampuff to show up and buy that boat.

Speaking of creampuffs, I wonder how Tom is doing with the Halman. ;-)

a leak...
 

On Wed, 16 May 2007 09:07:45 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

Speaking of creampuffs, I wonder how Tom is doing with the Halman. ;-)

Dealing with morons is taxing you know?

I'm tired of them - screw 'em.

I'm going to update the Halman wtih water, sink, stove and electric
head, have it professionally painted, fix one little area that needs
some attention and sail it.

I need a new project - that's it.

a leak...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2007 09:07:45 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

Speaking of creampuffs, I wonder how Tom is doing with the Halman. ;-)

Dealing with morons is taxing you know?

I'm tired of them - screw 'em.

I'm going to update the Halman wtih water, sink, stove and electric
head, have it professionally painted, fix one little area that needs
some attention and sail it.

I need a new project - that's it.


And I was going to offer you my Parker for your Ranger rig, if you
tossed in about another $35,000 in cash money.

a leak...
 

On Wed, 16 May 2007 11:50:35 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2007 09:07:45 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

Speaking of creampuffs, I wonder how Tom is doing with the Halman. ;-)

Dealing with morons is taxing you know?

I'm tired of them - screw 'em.

I'm going to update the Halman wtih water, sink, stove and electric
head, have it professionally painted, fix one little area that needs
some attention and sail it.

I need a new project - that's it.

And I was going to offer you my Parker for your Ranger rig, if you
tossed in about another $35,000 in cash money.

Yeah - like I'd pay that for a Parker.

With a Yamaha.

BBBAAAWWWAAAHHHHHHHAAAAAAA!!!!!!

I'll trade you the Ranger with the FICHT for your Parker - straight
up.

You can keep the Yamaha.

a leak...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 May 2007 09:07:45 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

Speaking of creampuffs, I wonder how Tom is doing with the Halman. ;-)

Dealing with morons is taxing you know?

I'm tired of them - screw 'em.

I'm going to update the Halman wtih water, sink, stove and electric
head, have it professionally painted, fix one little area that needs
some attention and sail it.

I need a new project - that's it.

Good for you! Tow it up here and I'll show you what real sailing is all
about.

a leak...
 

Buy the manual, get out your tools, and get to know your boat. Tell your
mechanic to go jump in the lake.

An old boat is only a bargain if you do your own maintenance. That
you paid someone $80 to "dewinterize" it is not a good sign.



Agreed. The OP needs to learn to do this himself- that was my whole point.

a leak...
 

"Steven Vaughan" wrote in message
. ..
Buy the manual, get out your tools, and get to know your boat. Tell your
mechanic to go jump in the lake.

An old boat is only a bargain if you do your own maintenance. That
you paid someone $80 to "dewinterize" it is not a good sign.



Agreed. The OP needs to learn to do this himself- that was my whole point.

the OP also agrees but he... err.. I would like to get it in the water
running at least once so I know how it should run.


btw: is dewinterizing a scam?

a leak...
 

"longshot" wrote in message
news:NTH2i.14583$w51.12337@trndny09...

"Steven Vaughan" wrote in message
. ..
Buy the manual, get out your tools, and get to know your boat. Tell
your
mechanic to go jump in the lake.

An old boat is only a bargain if you do your own maintenance. That
you paid someone $80 to "dewinterize" it is not a good sign.



Agreed. The OP needs to learn to do this himself- that was my whole
point.

the OP also agrees but he... err.. I would like to get it in the water
running at least once so I know how it should run.


btw: is dewinterizing a scam?


Anything they charge you a lot of money for is a scam. $800 for a 90 minute
outdrive boot change that takes $50 worth of parts? You be the judge...

You can "winterize/dewinterize" yourself for free. You can also do simple
maintenance yourself and save tons. You just have to know how. Quite simple,
really.

a leak...
 

On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:18:47 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 16 May 2007 09:07:45 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

Speaking of creampuffs, I wonder how Tom is doing with the Halman. ;-)

Dealing with morons is taxing you know?

I'm tired of them - screw 'em.

I'm going to update the Halman wtih water, sink, stove and electric
head, have it professionally painted, fix one little area that needs
some attention and sail it.

I need a new project - that's it.

Good for you! Tow it up here and I'll show you what real sailing is all
about.

Just might do that.

Hey, ever hear of Triton sails? Still in business?

a leak...
 

On Wed, 16 May 2007 18:16:13 GMT, "longshot" wrote:

btw: is dewinterizing a scam?

Typical "dewinterizing":

1. Remove winter cover (if any)

2. Reinstall/charge batteries

3. Check engine/transmission fluids

4. Flush fresh water tank (if any)

5. Wash boat

If the boatyard did all or most of that at typical boatyard labor
rates, you did OK, no scam in my opinion.

On the other hand that's all stuff that anyone can easily do
themselves with a small amount of work.

What is your priority, time or money?

a leak...
 

On Wed, 16 May 2007 15:44:52 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

What is your priority, time or money?

Tonight?

Pizza. New York style cheese pizza.

mmmmmmmmpizza.......

a leak...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 May 2007 15:44:52 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

What is your priority, time or money?

Tonight?

Pizza. New York style cheese pizza.

mmmmmmmmpizza.......

pork sausage?

a leak...
 

On Wed, 16 May 2007 15:44:52 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 16 May 2007 18:16:13 GMT, "longshot" wrote:

btw: is dewinterizing a scam?

Typical "dewinterizing":

1. Remove winter cover (if any)

2. Reinstall/charge batteries

3. Check engine/transmission fluids

4. Flush fresh water tank (if any)

5. Wash boat

If the boatyard did all or most of that at typical boatyard labor
rates, you did OK, no scam in my opinion.

On the other hand that's all stuff that anyone can easily do
themselves with a small amount of work.

What is your priority, time or money?

I just dewinterized as follows:

Took off the tarp.

Installed the battery

put on the muffs and turned on the water hose

Started the engine and let it run for a while until it reached full
temperature to ensure that it was flushed.

Sat in the boat - on the trailer - and listened to some tunes fror a
little while

put the tarp back on

Too bad I didn't have time to put it in the water and go for a ride
;-(

Dave Hall

a leak...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Just might do that.

Hey, ever hear of Triton sails? Still in business?

Ontario company...... http://tritonsails.com/

If you come up here, you may as well get the best.
http://www.tallships.ca/sailloft/
(see info on 'Bluenose' mainsail)
Also locally, we have North Sails, Doyle Sails and Victory Sails....

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Oh yeah....... don't forget to bring the old sails up for re-cycling.
see... http://www.cbc.ca/ns/

note: scroll down right side until you see 'Sailboat Shopping Bags' item.

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"Steven Vaughan" wrote in message
t...

"longshot" wrote in message
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"Steven Vaughan" wrote in message
. ..
Buy the manual, get out your tools, and get to know your boat. Tell
your
mechanic to go jump in the lake.

An old boat is only a bargain if you do your own maintenance. That
you paid someone $80 to "dewinterize" it is not a good sign.



Agreed. The OP needs to learn to do this himself- that was my whole
point.

the OP also agrees but he... err.. I would like to get it in the water
running at least once so I know how it should run.


btw: is dewinterizing a scam?



You can "winterize/dewinterize" yourself for free.

You cannot do either for *free*.

a leak...
 

"longshot" wrote in message
news:NTH2i.14583$w51.12337@trndny09...

"Steven Vaughan" wrote in message
. ..
Buy the manual, get out your tools, and get to know your boat. Tell
your
mechanic to go jump in the lake.

An old boat is only a bargain if you do your own maintenance. That
you paid someone $80 to "dewinterize" it is not a good sign.



Agreed. The OP needs to learn to do this himself- that was my whole
point.

the OP also agrees but he... err.. I would like to get it in the water
running at least once so I know how it should run.


btw: is dewinterizing a scam?


It depends on exactly what they did for $80.

What did they do?

a leak...
 

the OP also agrees but he... err.. I would like to get it in the water
running at least once so I know how it should run.


btw: is dewinterizing a scam?



You can "winterize/dewinterize" yourself for free.

You cannot do either for *free*.



The LABOR (the expensive part) is free if you do it yourself. You knew what
I meant.

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2007 18:16:13 GMT, "longshot" wrote:

btw: is dewinterizing a scam?

Typical "dewinterizing":

1. Remove winter cover (if any)

2. Reinstall/charge batteries

3. Check engine/transmission fluids

4. Flush fresh water tank (if any)

5. Wash boat

If the boatyard did all or most of that at typical boatyard labor
rates, you did OK, no scam in my opinion.

On the other hand that's all stuff that anyone can easily do
themselves with a small amount of work.

What is your priority, time or money?


Back when I lived up north and had a boat with an I/O, there was a bag
of plugs that also had to be replaced in, or around, the engine. I
don't remember the exact locations, or the number of plugs, but that bag
was taped to the steering wheel every year.

Dan