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Short Wave Sportfishing May 15th 07 07:48 PM

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No boats included in this unfortunately.

But at least you will know what your land based carbon footprint is
and how much it will cost you to offset it.

Interesting that they don't include diesel pickups or cars in this.

JohnH May 15th 07 08:49 PM

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On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:48:37 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

No boats included in this unfortunately.

But at least you will know what your land based carbon footprint is
and how much it will cost you to offset it.

Interesting that they don't include diesel pickups or cars in this.


Did something get misplaced here?

Short Wave Sportfishing May 15th 07 08:59 PM

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On Tue, 15 May 2007 19:49:12 GMT, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:48:37 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

No boats included in this unfortunately.

But at least you will know what your land based carbon footprint is
and how much it will cost you to offset it.

Interesting that they don't include diesel pickups or cars in this.


Did something get misplaced here?


Why yes - yes it did.

I blame it on the drugs. :)

http://www.zerofootprintoffsets.com/calculator.aspx

Eisboch May 15th 07 09:12 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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I blame it on the drugs. :)

http://www.zerofootprintoffsets.com/calculator.aspx



I was fine on in the car section. Slightly below average.
No problem at all on the flight section since I haven't flown anywhere in
about 3 years.

The house section blew it all to smithereens though. Guess I'll have to
make out a check, payable to AGORE.

Eisboch



Bill May 15th 07 10:04 PM

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http://www.zerofootprintoffsets.com/calculator.aspx

There is a big problem with this test seeing as how it doesn't take
into account where you live. In CA energy bills are much higher, even
if personal usage is lower we get charged more for everything so if I
pay $30 a month on electricity then I am using less energy than
someone in the midwest who also pays $30. Not to mention I pa even if
I don't use any electricity for the connection fee. That's not fair
questioning. I feel cheated. This calculator needs to be shot.

Bill



JimH May 15th 07 10:27 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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I blame it on the drugs. :)

http://www.zerofootprintoffsets.com/calculator.aspx



I was fine on in the car section. Slightly below average.
No problem at all on the flight section since I haven't flown anywhere in
about 3 years.

The house section blew it all to smithereens though. Guess I'll have to
make out a check, payable to AGORE.

Eisboch


How many furnaces and AC units does that monster house have?



Eisboch May 15th 07 10:38 PM

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"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

I blame it on the drugs. :)

http://www.zerofootprintoffsets.com/calculator.aspx



I was fine on in the car section. Slightly below average.
No problem at all on the flight section since I haven't flown anywhere in
about 3 years.

The house section blew it all to smithereens though. Guess I'll have to
make out a check, payable to AGORE.

Eisboch


How many furnaces and AC units does that monster house have?


Just one furnace with 12 zones. Three large A/C units plus a smaller, ton
and a half unit for the barn garage. I put that in to control humidity more
than to cool it.

Surprisingly, it's really not bad expense-wise to heat or cool considering
the square footage unless you have an unusually cold or hot month. The
house is very well insulated.

The meter starts to spin when we start using the pool heater though. It's
also electric and is rated at something like 140,000 BTU/hr. We'll back it
off a bit this year, I think.

RCE





JimH May 15th 07 11:52 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

I blame it on the drugs. :)

http://www.zerofootprintoffsets.com/calculator.aspx


I was fine on in the car section. Slightly below average.
No problem at all on the flight section since I haven't flown anywhere
in about 3 years.

The house section blew it all to smithereens though. Guess I'll have
to make out a check, payable to AGORE.

Eisboch


How many furnaces and AC units does that monster house have?


Just one furnace with 12 zones. Three large A/C units plus a smaller, ton
and a half unit for the barn garage. I put that in to control humidity
more than to cool it.

Surprisingly, it's really not bad expense-wise to heat or cool considering
the square footage unless you have an unusually cold or hot month. The
house is very well insulated.

The meter starts to spin when we start using the pool heater though. It's
also electric and is rated at something like 140,000 BTU/hr. We'll back
it off a bit this year, I think.

RCE





You have a great looking house and piece of property......enjoy it without
feeling any guilt. Time for you and your wife to enjoy life.



John H. May 15th 07 11:52 PM

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On Tue, 15 May 2007 19:59:40 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 15 May 2007 19:49:12 GMT, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:48:37 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

No boats included in this unfortunately.

But at least you will know what your land based carbon footprint is
and how much it will cost you to offset it.

Interesting that they don't include diesel pickups or cars in this.


Did something get misplaced here?


Why yes - yes it did.

I blame it on the drugs. :)

http://www.zerofootprintoffsets.com/calculator.aspx


Now, that site says it all:

"When the carbon you take out of the atmosphere is equal to the amount you
put in, you are carbon-neutral. If everyone were carbon-neutral, we
wouldn’t have to worry about global warming."

There's the proof, folks. Any global warming to be worried about is caused
by man. Amen. That's it.

However, for a mere $200 I can offset *all* of mine, except farts of
course. The question is, what does the $200 actually buy? I couldn't find
that anywhere.

Help!

Eisboch May 15th 07 11:53 PM

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"JimH" wrote in message
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You have a great looking house and piece of property......enjoy it without
feeling any guilt. Time for you and your wife to enjoy life.


I have no "guilt", but I'd sell it in a flash if I could only get
permission.

Eisboch



John H. May 15th 07 11:54 PM

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On Tue, 15 May 2007 17:27:53 -0400, "JimH" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

I blame it on the drugs. :)

http://www.zerofootprintoffsets.com/calculator.aspx



I was fine on in the car section. Slightly below average.
No problem at all on the flight section since I haven't flown anywhere in
about 3 years.

The house section blew it all to smithereens though. Guess I'll have to
make out a check, payable to AGORE.

Eisboch


How many furnaces and AC units does that monster house have?


Careful! Sounds like Jimmie's looking for info to begin another rant about
your possessions!

JimH May 16th 07 12:19 AM

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 May 2007 17:54:09 -0500, John H. penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Tue, 15 May 2007 17:27:53 -0400, "JimH" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

I blame it on the drugs. :)

http://www.zerofootprintoffsets.com/calculator.aspx


I was fine on in the car section. Slightly below average.
No problem at all on the flight section since I haven't flown anywhere
in
about 3 years.

The house section blew it all to smithereens though. Guess I'll have
to
make out a check, payable to AGORE.

Eisboch


How many furnaces and AC units does that monster house have?


Careful! Sounds like Jimmie's looking for info to begin another rant about
your possessions!


I'll take the challenge.

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats


From what I have seen it looks like the old mans only purpose here is to try
to start fights.



JimH May 16th 07 12:20 AM

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 May 2007 17:54:09 -0500, John H. penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:



Careful! Sounds like Jimmie's looking for info to begin another rant about
your possessions!


Just so we are on the same page..... the house and the garage/workshop
combined 7600 sq ft......



Sweet!



Eisboch May 16th 07 12:21 AM

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 May 2007 17:54:09 -0500, John H. penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:



Careful! Sounds like Jimmie's looking for info to begin another rant about
your possessions!


Just so we are on the same page..... the house and the garage/workshop
combined 7600 sq ft......



The trend in new construction in our area for the past few years has been
large, oversized houses of 5K to over 10k square feet. Until recently, they
sold as fast as they were built. Great for young families raising a bunch
of kids, but it doesn't make sense to me when they are all off on their own
and it's just me and Mrs.E.

Of course, she replaced the three kids with three dogs and three horses in
addition to the 5 grandkids. (had to stop and count them .... don't ask me
to name them)

Eisboch



JimH May 16th 07 12:43 AM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 May 2007 17:54:09 -0500, John H. penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:



Careful! Sounds like Jimmie's looking for info to begin another rant
about
your possessions!


Just so we are on the same page..... the house and the garage/workshop
combined 7600 sq ft......



The trend in new construction in our area for the past few years has been
large, oversized houses of 5K to over 10k square feet. Until recently,
they sold as fast as they were built. Great for young families raising a
bunch of kids, but it doesn't make sense to me when they are all off on
their own and it's just me and Mrs.E.

Of course, she replaced the three kids with three dogs and three horses in
addition to the 5 grandkids. (had to stop and count them .... don't ask
me to name them)

Eisboch


That was also the trend around here.........until the last year or so,
especially with the young buyers. They are now putting an emphasis on
quality vs. size.........as smart move.



JimH May 16th 07 12:49 AM

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"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 May 2007 17:54:09 -0500, John H. penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:



Careful! Sounds like Jimmie's looking for info to begin another rant
about
your possessions!

Just so we are on the same page..... the house and the garage/workshop
combined 7600 sq ft......



The trend in new construction in our area for the past few years has been
large, oversized houses of 5K to over 10k square feet. Until recently,
they sold as fast as they were built. Great for young families raising
a bunch of kids, but it doesn't make sense to me when they are all off on
their own and it's just me and Mrs.E.

Of course, she replaced the three kids with three dogs and three horses
in addition to the 5 grandkids. (had to stop and count them .... don't
ask me to name them)

Eisboch


That was also the trend around here.........al tleast until the last year
or so especially with the young buyers. They are now putting an emphasis
on quality vs. size.........a smart move.


edit



Calif Bill May 16th 07 03:46 AM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

I blame it on the drugs. :)

http://www.zerofootprintoffsets.com/calculator.aspx


I was fine on in the car section. Slightly below average.
No problem at all on the flight section since I haven't flown anywhere
in about 3 years.

The house section blew it all to smithereens though. Guess I'll have
to make out a check, payable to AGORE.

Eisboch


How many furnaces and AC units does that monster house have?


Just one furnace with 12 zones. Three large A/C units plus a smaller, ton
and a half unit for the barn garage. I put that in to control humidity
more than to cool it.

Surprisingly, it's really not bad expense-wise to heat or cool considering
the square footage unless you have an unusually cold or hot month. The
house is very well insulated.

The meter starts to spin when we start using the pool heater though. It's
also electric and is rated at something like 140,000 BTU/hr. We'll back
it off a bit this year, I think.

RCE





My pool heater was gas, and when you ran that sucker, the 2cubic ft. needle
on the meter looked like the front of a Cessna. I use Solar, and works well
for the pool.



Calif Bill May 16th 07 03:50 AM

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"JimH" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 May 2007 17:54:09 -0500, John H. penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:



Careful! Sounds like Jimmie's looking for info to begin another rant
about
your possessions!

Just so we are on the same page..... the house and the garage/workshop
combined 7600 sq ft......



The trend in new construction in our area for the past few years has
been large, oversized houses of 5K to over 10k square feet. Until
recently, they sold as fast as they were built. Great for young
families raising a bunch of kids, but it doesn't make sense to me when
they are all off on their own and it's just me and Mrs.E.

Of course, she replaced the three kids with three dogs and three horses
in addition to the 5 grandkids. (had to stop and count them .... don't
ask me to name them)

Eisboch


That was also the trend around here.........al tleast until the last year
or so especially with the young buyers. They are now putting an emphasis
on quality vs. size.........a smart move.


edit


Lots of 10,000 ft houses going up in my area. Talking to a buddy on the
weekend, and a friend of his is a tax appraiser for the county of Sonoma.
Just appraised a 27,000 sq ft house. $113,000,000 for tax purposes. The
founder of people soft has cut down on his plans for his new house after the
neighbors complained. Went from 56,000 ft to 27,000'. On 22 acres.



Calif Bill May 16th 07 07:35 AM

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"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
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In message ink.net,
Calif
Bill sprach forth the following:

Talking to a buddy on the
weekend, and a friend of his is a tax appraiser for the county of Sonoma.
Just appraised a 27,000 sq ft house. $113,000,000 for tax purposes.


Someone needs to shoot that appraiser.


May be worth that to someone. My daughter is an interior designer for model
homes. She just did one in Newport area of Calif. They are building 30
homes in the development and at 7000' they start at $7.000,000. There may
be a lot of land with a 27,000' home.




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