On Sun, 13 May 2007 21:40:50 -0400, JimH wrote:


So what are the alarmists predicting for this year?

I don't know about alarmists, but Dr. Gray is forecasting hurricane
landfalls well above average. However, Dr. Gray believes there are other
factors at work, not global warming.

http://hurricane.atmos.colostate.edu...007/april2007/

May I quote you when thier doom and gloom prediction fall short once
again?

wrote:
On Sun, 13 May 2007 21:40:50 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 May 2007 21:08:12 -0400, JimH penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


I would not tie global warming into this issue.................numerous
severe hurricanes were predicted last year by the global warming
alarmists,
riding the coat tails of the 2005 season, yet their predictions fell
flat.

Hurricane prediction is far from being an exact science. The
predictions were not all that bad... 9 tropical storms, 5 hurricanes,
and 2 major hurricanes aren't the big numbers that they predicted, but
then..... they didn't predict the El Niño event nor the large dust
storms from the African continent that shaded the sea surface and
reduced water temperatures.

Don't let that one year lull you into complacency.
So what are the alarmists predicting for this year?
He
http://hurricane.atmos.colostate.edu...07/apr2007.pdf


May I quote you when thier doom and gloom prediction fall short once again?
Sure.

May I, then, assume that you will wholeheartedly accept that global
warming is affecting hurricane production if they are correct in their
predictions?

5 years does not make a trend when dealing with the Earth's climate.

Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute wrote:
In message , Gene Kearns
sprach forth the following:

they didn't predict the El Niño event nor the large dust
storms from the African continent that shaded the sea surface and
reduced water temperatures.

But then how can they predict temperature changes?

Exactly! If they, the climate alarmist, didn't see El Nino coming what
justifies their assertion that the Earth is going to burn life off of
its surface in the next 25 years?

On May 13, 3:53 pm, wrote:
As a several generation N. FL native, I DO want hurricanes to hit
here. This says nothing about wanting anybody to die. Anybody with
any sense gets out of their way, anybody who stays is helping the gene
pool. The coastal ecology requires hurricanes here. Inland, we need
the rainfall storms provide. If you dont want hurricanes, go
somehwere else, they are part of the deal here.
My families older friends who owned fishing shacks near the coast
would not consider building on the beach (why would you want to live
there?) because of the wave action during storms. They built their
fishing shacks a few hundered feet from the shore and counted on
having em flooded. All eleictrical stuff was up in the attic to give
it a better chance of surviving. After the surge receded, they'd toss
the old bedding in the trash and go to thrift store for more.
YES, I DO WANT TO SEE YOUR CONDO WASHED AWAY. It has no business
being built on the beach where I have to subsidize its insurance. I
shouldn't have to pay to have your beach recovered with sand when it
washes away. Here in FL, the insuranee situation on waterfront stuff
got so bad that the state REQUIRES an insurance company to insure
coastal property if they are also going to insure inland properties,
of course, the state helps subsidize it with a state owned company.
Take your damned trained mouse and all other Disney trash theme parks
and go home, go back to your rust belt and leave FL to natives. Y'all
can come visit but dont stay. I cant even go to one of MY state parks
anymore cuz trhey so are filled with million dollar RVs there is no
room for us cheap tent campers. Best thing would be to genetically
engineer an organism that eats refrigerant so AC wont work. You'd all
go home then.

Wow, it's been Florida that has begged us to come down there or half a
century! If we all leave do we still have to rebuild you after storms,
subsidize your crops, and, er, what was your other industry/natural
resource before we all moved down there from the "education belt"? And
brought with us, our money belt?

wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 May 2007 21:40:50 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 13 May 2007 21:08:12 -0400, JimH penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:



I would not tie global warming into this issue.................numerous
severe hurricanes were predicted last year by the global warming
alarmists,
riding the coat tails of the 2005 season, yet their predictions fell
flat.


Hurricane prediction is far from being an exact science. The
predictions were not all that bad... 9 tropical storms, 5 hurricanes,
and 2 major hurricanes aren't the big numbers that they predicted, but
then..... they didn't predict the El Niño event nor the large dust
storms from the African continent that shaded the sea surface and
reduced water temperatures.

Don't let that one year lull you into complacency.

So what are the alarmists predicting for this year?
He
http://hurricane.atmos.colostate.edu...07/apr2007.pdf


May I quote you when thier doom and gloom prediction fall short once
again?
Sure.

May I, then, assume that you will wholeheartedly accept that global
warming is affecting hurricane production if they are correct in their
predictions?
--

No.

On May 13, 6:11 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 13 May 2007 17:37:10 -0400, "RCE" wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...

As a several generation N. FL native, I DO want hurricanes to hit
here. This says nothing about wanting anybody to die. Anybody with
any sense gets out of their way, anybody who stays is helping the gene
pool. The coastal ecology requires hurricanes here. Inland, we need
the rainfall storms provide. If you dont want hurricanes, go
somehwere else, they are part of the deal here.

The "threat" of hurricanes in Florida is certainly real, but the probability
of a direct hit by the eye is pretty small, mainly due to Florida's large
area. The three that hit the area where we had property ... Jupiter,FL
..... (Francis and Jeanne in 2004 and then Wilma in 2005) were the first
that had scored a direct hit in that area in over 100 years.

GLOBAL WARMING!!!!

Git 'cher carbon credits B4 it's 2 layate!!!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'm still looking for your proof that global warming doesn't exist.

On 14 May 2007 07:36:47 -0700, basskisser wrote:

On May 13, 6:11 pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 13 May 2007 17:37:10 -0400, "RCE" wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...

As a several generation N. FL native, I DO want hurricanes to hit
here. This says nothing about wanting anybody to die. Anybody with
any sense gets out of their way, anybody who stays is helping the gene
pool. The coastal ecology requires hurricanes here. Inland, we need
the rainfall storms provide. If you dont want hurricanes, go
somehwere else, they are part of the deal here.

The "threat" of hurricanes in Florida is certainly real, but the probability
of a direct hit by the eye is pretty small, mainly due to Florida's large
area. The three that hit the area where we had property ... Jupiter,FL
..... (Francis and Jeanne in 2004 and then Wilma in 2005) were the first
that had scored a direct hit in that area in over 100 years.

GLOBAL WARMING!!!!

Git 'cher carbon credits B4 it's 2 layate!!!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'm still looking for your proof that global warming doesn't exist.

Look it up - your supposedly a freakin' genius engineer with all kinds
of expertise including concrete.

On 14 May 2007 13:28:41 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
wrote:

In message , Gene Kearns
sprach forth the following:

they didn't predict the El Niño event nor the large dust
storms from the African continent that shaded the sea surface and
reduced water temperatures.

But then how can they predict temperature changes?

The funny bit in this is that there isn't anyway to "average" global
temperature - it's impossible.

"Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute" wrote in message
...
In message , sprach forth
the following:

May I, then, assume that you will wholeheartedly accept that global
warming is affecting hurricane production if they are correct in their
predictions?

No.

This chart:

http://www.research.noaa.gov/spotlit...unclimate.html

shows a near 1:1 correlation between solar activity (sunspots) and
temperature on earth. Can you produce a similar chart showing a
correlation between temperature and hurricanes?

Maybe earth's man-made pollution influences sunspot activity! 8)

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 14 May 2007 13:28:41 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
wrote:

In message , Gene Kearns
sprach forth the following:

they didn't predict the El Niño event nor the large dust
storms from the African continent that shaded the sea surface and
reduced water temperatures.

But then how can they predict temperature changes?

The funny bit in this is that there isn't anyway to "average" global
temperature - it's impossible.

It certainly is NOT impossible.

Simply measure the temperature at an infinite number of locations and divide
by infinity!

See how easy it is?