I hate boat buyers - Part Deaux...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 15, 8:01 am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 15, 12:58 am, jps wrote:
In article .com,
says...
On May 14, 5:33 pm, jps wrote:
Still have the Tolly, or are you "between" boats?
Between. Would invest but, unless it's a 8 kt. single screw with
oar
locks, couldn't bear the thought of the fuel costs. I've been a
twin-
screw guy my whole life. I like having a set of props. It scares
me to fill up the car these days.
I do miss floating around in a pretty big way. I need to haul the
whaler down to the lake and have run around. Perhaps my spirits
will be
"buoyed"? :)
jps- Hide quoted text -
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Charter.
It's too bad the Cheney-Bush National Energy Policy's sole goal was to
enrich the oil companiies and refiners. Isn't it interesting that once
again, at the beginning of summer, so many refineries are shut down
for
maintenance? What a coincidence.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Harry, don't buy the baloney.

If the price of crude oil dropped to $10 a bbl and if we had excess
refinery capacity
we would still see fuel prices about as high as they are.

Nobody sells a product for less than the market has demonstrated a
willingness to pay.

Like the oil company apologists keep repeating, it's a matter of
supply and demand.
They will reluctantly supply us with as much as we want as long as we
pay whatever they demand. Once again this summer we'll eclipse all
previous price records as BIGOIL continues to discover whether there's
a price point beyond which we won't buy refined products. So far, they
haven't found it.


And if we drilled ANWR until it looked like swiss cheese, we would
still be paying about the same for gas and diesel but BIGOIL would
have an additional supply of raw material.

jps' lament that he would buy a boat if he could tolerate the price of
fuel is being repeated
about 100,000 times across the country this year. Those of us who
enjoy motorized recreation (boats, RV's, light planes, etc) will be
gob-smacked with some major paradigm shifts in the next 2-3 years.


As I have stated before, the oil companies need to have citizen
oversight on their financial operations, among other controls.
\

Where was the tears when a few years ago, the oil companies were making
2% on their money? One of the causes for the mergers.

You actually believe that they were making 2%?

You actually believe unions pension funds are honest? If oil companies were
making more money they would not have been consolidations.

I hate boat buyers - Part Deaux...
 

Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 15, 8:01 am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 15, 12:58 am, jps wrote:
In article .com,
says...
On May 14, 5:33 pm, jps wrote:
Still have the Tolly, or are you "between" boats?
Between. Would invest but, unless it's a 8 kt. single screw with
oar
locks, couldn't bear the thought of the fuel costs. I've been a
twin-
screw guy my whole life. I like having a set of props. It scares
me to fill up the car these days.
I do miss floating around in a pretty big way. I need to haul the
whaler down to the lake and have run around. Perhaps my spirits
will be
"buoyed"? :)
jps- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Charter.
It's too bad the Cheney-Bush National Energy Policy's sole goal was to
enrich the oil companiies and refiners. Isn't it interesting that once
again, at the beginning of summer, so many refineries are shut down
for
maintenance? What a coincidence.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Harry, don't buy the baloney.

If the price of crude oil dropped to $10 a bbl and if we had excess
refinery capacity
we would still see fuel prices about as high as they are.

Nobody sells a product for less than the market has demonstrated a
willingness to pay.

Like the oil company apologists keep repeating, it's a matter of
supply and demand.
They will reluctantly supply us with as much as we want as long as we
pay whatever they demand. Once again this summer we'll eclipse all
previous price records as BIGOIL continues to discover whether there's
a price point beyond which we won't buy refined products. So far, they
haven't found it.


And if we drilled ANWR until it looked like swiss cheese, we would
still be paying about the same for gas and diesel but BIGOIL would
have an additional supply of raw material.

jps' lament that he would buy a boat if he could tolerate the price of
fuel is being repeated
about 100,000 times across the country this year. Those of us who
enjoy motorized recreation (boats, RV's, light planes, etc) will be
gob-smacked with some major paradigm shifts in the next 2-3 years.


As I have stated before, the oil companies need to have citizen
oversight on their financial operations, among other controls.
\
Where was the tears when a few years ago, the oil companies were making
2% on their money? One of the causes for the mergers.
You actually believe that they were making 2%?

You actually believe unions pension funds are honest? If oil companies were
making more money they would not have been consolidations.



If union pension fund officers aren't honest, they go to prison. All
union pension fund officers are bonded. If money turns up missing or
misappropriated as a result of the actions of the officers, the bonding
company ensures that the offenders are prosecuted in criminal courts.
The conviction rate is very, very high.

I hate boat buyers - Part Deaux...
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 15, 8:01 am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 15, 12:58 am, jps wrote:
In article
.com,
says...
On May 14, 5:33 pm, jps wrote:
Still have the Tolly, or are you "between" boats?
Between. Would invest but, unless it's a 8 kt. single screw with
oar
locks, couldn't bear the thought of the fuel costs. I've been a
twin-
screw guy my whole life. I like having a set of props. It scares
me to fill up the car these days.
I do miss floating around in a pretty big way. I need to haul the
whaler down to the lake and have run around. Perhaps my spirits
will be
"buoyed"? :)
jps- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Charter.
It's too bad the Cheney-Bush National Energy Policy's sole goal was
to
enrich the oil companiies and refiners. Isn't it interesting that
once
again, at the beginning of summer, so many refineries are shut down
for
maintenance? What a coincidence.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Harry, don't buy the baloney.

If the price of crude oil dropped to $10 a bbl and if we had excess
refinery capacity
we would still see fuel prices about as high as they are.

Nobody sells a product for less than the market has demonstrated a
willingness to pay.

Like the oil company apologists keep repeating, it's a matter of
supply and demand.
They will reluctantly supply us with as much as we want as long as we
pay whatever they demand. Once again this summer we'll eclipse all
previous price records as BIGOIL continues to discover whether
there's
a price point beyond which we won't buy refined products. So far,
they
haven't found it.


And if we drilled ANWR until it looked like swiss cheese, we would
still be paying about the same for gas and diesel but BIGOIL would
have an additional supply of raw material.

jps' lament that he would buy a boat if he could tolerate the price
of
fuel is being repeated
about 100,000 times across the country this year. Those of us who
enjoy motorized recreation (boats, RV's, light planes, etc) will be
gob-smacked with some major paradigm shifts in the next 2-3 years.


As I have stated before, the oil companies need to have citizen
oversight on their financial operations, among other controls.
\
Where was the tears when a few years ago, the oil companies were making
2% on their money? One of the causes for the mergers.
You actually believe that they were making 2%?

You actually believe unions pension funds are honest? If oil companies
were making more money they would not have been consolidations.

If union pension fund officers aren't honest, they go to prison. All union
pension fund officers are bonded. If money turns up missing or
misappropriated as a result of the actions of the officers, the bonding
company ensures that the offenders are prosecuted in criminal courts. The
conviction rate is very, very high.


Bwaaaaaaha. . . . .

I hate boat buyers - Part Deaux...
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..


If union pension fund officers aren't honest, they go to prison. All union
pension fund officers are bonded. If money turns up missing or
misappropriated as a result of the actions of the officers, the bonding
company ensures that the offenders are prosecuted in criminal courts. The
conviction rate is very, very high.


It's too bad politicians aren't held to the same standard/punishment.

I hate boat buyers - Part Deaux...
 

"Don White" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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If union pension fund officers aren't honest, they go to prison. All
union pension fund officers are bonded. If money turns up missing or
misappropriated as a result of the actions of the officers, the bonding
company ensures that the offenders are prosecuted in criminal courts. The
conviction rate is very, very high.


It's too bad politicians aren't held to the same standard/punishment.


How many Ullico people went to prison?

I hate boat buyers - Part Deaux...
 

Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
If union pension fund officers aren't honest, they go to prison. All union
pension fund officers are bonded. If money turns up missing or
misappropriated as a result of the actions of the officers, the bonding
company ensures that the offenders are prosecuted in criminal courts. The
conviction rate is very, very high.


It's too bad politicians aren't held to the same standard/punishment.


Or corporate executives.

I hate boat buyers - Part Deaux...
 

Calif Bill wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
If union pension fund officers aren't honest, they go to prison. All
union pension fund officers are bonded. If money turns up missing or
misappropriated as a result of the actions of the officers, the bonding
company ensures that the offenders are prosecuted in criminal courts. The
conviction rate is very, very high.

It's too bad politicians aren't held to the same standard/punishment.


How many Ullico people went to prison?



For what? There were no criminal violations, and no pension funds were
missing or misappropriated.

I hate boat buyers - Part Deaux...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
If union pension fund officers aren't honest, they go to prison. All
union pension fund officers are bonded. If money turns up missing or
misappropriated as a result of the actions of the officers, the bonding
company ensures that the offenders are prosecuted in criminal courts.
The conviction rate is very, very high.

It's too bad politicians aren't held to the same standard/punishment.


How many Ullico people went to prison?

For what? There were no criminal violations, and no pension funds were
missing or misappropriated.

And where did all that money paid to Ullico executives for overpriced stock
come from?

I hate boat buyers - Part Deaux...
 

HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and
more paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage
going to help the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline
for their cars.

As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as
much as I trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not
for anything.
I think private residences with more than one kitchen facility setup
should be taxed at a rate triple that of a single kitchen house, six
times more if the second facility is part of a home office. The
overage should go to fund homeless meals.

Eisboch

Sounds like a winner. And those with empty horse barns should be
housing the homeless, and loaning them their vehicles so they can
find work.

Actually, it's not a full kitchen. There's no cooktop or baking oven.
:}


Live in a horsebarn? I think that's an opportunity even the homeless
would say, "No thanks" to.

Eisboch





The smells of nature.

I've got a week or so delay on the kitchenette project. The factory
shipped an incorrectly sized wall cabinet, unfortunately, a cabinet on
the inside of the row on the wall. But all the base cabinets are
installed, along with the dishwasher, its wiring, and the wiring for the
microwave and disposal. I might see my countertops on Friday. Maybe.

My union electrician charged me one-third the price of the non-union
contractor, not because I'm such a sweet guy, but because he was
experienced enough to finish the the wiring in a half day, without
cutting up my ceilings or walls. Slick.

Slick? Pure bull****.

I hate boat buyers - Part Deaux...
 

On May 16, 12:52 pm, HK wrote:

The conviction rate is very, very high


With all sincerity, Harry, That statement doesn't look to good for the
union boss.

At first glance it looks more like the conviction rate is more volume
than severaty.