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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..


Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and more
paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage going to help
the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline for their cars.

As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as much as I
trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not for anything.

I think private residences with more than one kitchen facility setup should
be taxed at a rate triple that of a single kitchen house, six times more if
the second facility is part of a home office. The overage should go to fund
homeless meals.

Eisboch




Sounds like a winner. And those with empty horse barns should be housing
the homeless, and loaning them their vehicles so they can find work.

Actually, it's not a full kitchen. There's no cooktop or baking oven. :}

I hate boat buyers - Part Deaux...
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..


Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and more
paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage going to
help the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline for their
cars.

As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as much as
I trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not for anything.

I think private residences with more than one kitchen facility setup
should be taxed at a rate triple that of a single kitchen house, six
times more if the second facility is part of a home office. The overage
should go to fund homeless meals.

Eisboch


Sounds like a winner. And those with empty horse barns should be housing
the homeless, and loaning them their vehicles so they can find work.

Actually, it's not a full kitchen. There's no cooktop or baking oven. :}


Live in a horsebarn? I think that's an opportunity even the homeless would
say, "No thanks" to.

Eisboch

I hate boat buyers - Part Deaux...
 

On Tue, 15 May 2007 11:01:13 -0400, HK wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 15, 12:58 am, jps wrote:
In article .com,
says...





On May 14, 5:33 pm, jps wrote:

Still have the Tolly, or are you "between" boats?
Between. Would invest but, unless it's a 8 kt. single screw with oar
locks, couldn't bear the thought of the fuel costs. I've been a twin-
screw guy my whole life. I like having a set of props.

It scares me to fill up the car these days.

I do miss floating around in a pretty big way. I need to haul the
whaler down to the lake and have run around. Perhaps my spirits will be
"buoyed"? :)

jps- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Charter.





It's too bad the Cheney-Bush National Energy Policy's sole goal was to
enrich the oil companiies and refiners. Isn't it interesting that once
again, at the beginning of summer, so many refineries are shut down for
maintenance? What a coincidence.

Isn't it nice that we have our own developer of the fabled 'crock of
****' right here in rec.boats?

What is Pelosi doing to get them up and running?

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On Tue, 15 May 2007 12:14:01 -0400, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2007 11:01:13 -0400, HK wrote:

Isn't it interesting that once
again, at the beginning of summer, so many refineries are shut down for
maintenance? What a coincidence.

Isn't it interesting that once
again, at the beginning of summer, so many conspiracy theories are
running rampant.

Who will be to blame in the next administration?




Well, I doubt the next administration will have its VP conduct secret
meetings with oil companies to form an energy strategy for the nation
that to this day it has kept secret. That's what Bush and Cheney did,
remember.

Who will be to blame? You're dodging the question. How's the lobsta
boat?

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On Tue, 15 May 2007 15:08:20 -0400, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2007 12:17:21 -0400, HK wrote:

As I have stated before, the oil companies need to have citizen
oversight on their financial operations, among other controls.

Excellent.

I will volunteer to provide that oversight and ensure that fuel
efficient trawler owners have adequate supplies and reasonable prices.

Parker owners will pay a little more.



Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and more
paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage going to
help the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline for their cars.

As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as much as
I trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not for anything.

Harry, you could sell that little used Parker and buy lots of fuel for
the poor. Or, you could call the Boy Scouts, as Jimmie suggests.

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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..

Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and more
paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage going to
help the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline for their
cars.

As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as much as
I trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not for anything.
I think private residences with more than one kitchen facility setup
should be taxed at a rate triple that of a single kitchen house, six
times more if the second facility is part of a home office. The overage
should go to fund homeless meals.

Eisboch

Sounds like a winner. And those with empty horse barns should be housing
the homeless, and loaning them their vehicles so they can find work.

Actually, it's not a full kitchen. There's no cooktop or baking oven. :}


Live in a horsebarn? I think that's an opportunity even the homeless would
say, "No thanks" to.

Eisboch





The smells of nature.

I've got a week or so delay on the kitchenette project. The factory
shipped an incorrectly sized wall cabinet, unfortunately, a cabinet on
the inside of the row on the wall. But all the base cabinets are
installed, along with the dishwasher, its wiring, and the wiring for the
microwave and disposal. I might see my countertops on Friday. Maybe.

My union electrician charged me one-third the price of the non-union
contractor, not because I'm such a sweet guy, but because he was
experienced enough to finish the the wiring in a half day, without
cutting up my ceilings or walls. Slick.

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In article . com,
says...

Charter.

A fine idea. I may do that.

The real joy was doing the work. I could do just about anything needing
be done and there's a lot of bliss in that. "Master of your domain" as
they said on Seinfeld.

It didn't impress the admiral that much, but it sure made me happy.

jps

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On Tue, 15 May 2007 15:28:17 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...



Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and more
paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage going to help
the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline for their cars.

As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as much as I
trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not for anything.

I think private residences with more than one kitchen facility setup should
be taxed at a rate triple that of a single kitchen house, six times more if
the second facility is part of a home office. The overage should go to fund
homeless meals.

Personally, I think all people who have two kitchens should be taxed
as you suggest plus if they own a Parker, an additional 50% usage tax
should be added just because. :)

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2007 15:28:17 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
. ..


Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and more
paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage going to help
the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline for their cars.

As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as much as I
trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not for anything.
I think private residences with more than one kitchen facility setup should
be taxed at a rate triple that of a single kitchen house, six times more if
the second facility is part of a home office. The overage should go to fund
homeless meals.

Personally, I think all people who have two kitchens should be taxed
as you suggest plus if they own a Parker, an additional 50% usage tax
should be added just because. :)


I actually may try to sell the Parker this year, instead of just talking
about it.

I hate boat buyers - Part Deaux...
 

On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:46:54 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2007 15:28:17 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
. ..


Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and more
paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage going to help
the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline for their cars.

As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as much as I
trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not for anything.
I think private residences with more than one kitchen facility setup should
be taxed at a rate triple that of a single kitchen house, six times more if
the second facility is part of a home office. The overage should go to fund
homeless meals.

Personally, I think all people who have two kitchens should be taxed
as you suggest plus if they own a Parker, an additional 50% usage tax
should be added just because. :)

I actually may try to sell the Parker this year, instead of just talking
about it.

Seriously?

Will you be replacing it?

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:46:54 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2007 15:28:17 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
. ..

Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and more
paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage going to help
the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline for their cars.

As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as much as I
trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not for anything.
I think private residences with more than one kitchen facility setup should
be taxed at a rate triple that of a single kitchen house, six times more if
the second facility is part of a home office. The overage should go to fund
homeless meals.
Personally, I think all people who have two kitchens should be taxed
as you suggest plus if they own a Parker, an additional 50% usage tax
should be added just because. :)
I actually may try to sell the Parker this year, instead of just talking
about it.

Seriously?

Will you be replacing it?


I don't know.

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"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:46:54 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2007 15:28:17 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
. ..

Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and
more paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage
going to help the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline
for their cars.

As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as much
as I trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not for
anything.
I think private residences with more than one kitchen facility setup
should be taxed at a rate triple that of a single kitchen house, six
times more if the second facility is part of a home office. The
overage should go to fund homeless meals.
Personally, I think all people who have two kitchens should be taxed
as you suggest plus if they own a Parker, an additional 50% usage tax
should be added just because. :)
I actually may try to sell the Parker this year, instead of just talking
about it.

Seriously?

Will you be replacing it?


I don't know.

If not, you can always take up golfing and team up with your buddy John!

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JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:46:54 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2007 15:28:17 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
. ..

Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and
more paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage
going to help the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline
for their cars.

As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as much
as I trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not for
anything.
I think private residences with more than one kitchen facility setup
should be taxed at a rate triple that of a single kitchen house, six
times more if the second facility is part of a home office. The
overage should go to fund homeless meals.
Personally, I think all people who have two kitchens should be taxed
as you suggest plus if they own a Parker, an additional 50% usage tax
should be added just because. :)
I actually may try to sell the Parker this year, instead of just talking
about it.
Seriously?

Will you be replacing it?

I don't know.

If not, you can always take up golfing and team up with your buddy John!




It's hard for me to think of another sport as boring as golf.

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On Tue, 15 May 2007 22:40:37 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 15 May 2007 15:28:17 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
m...



Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and more
paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage going to help
the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline for their cars.

As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as much as I
trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not for anything.

I think private residences with more than one kitchen facility setup should
be taxed at a rate triple that of a single kitchen house, six times more if
the second facility is part of a home office. The overage should go to fund
homeless meals.

Personally, I think all people who have two kitchens should be taxed
as you suggest plus if they own a Parker, an additional 50% usage tax
should be added just because. :)

Does a usage tax do any good if there's no *usage*?

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On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:46:54 -0400, HK wrote:

I actually may try to sell the Parker this year, instead of just talking
about it.

Good plan.

Somebody should get some use of it.

I hate boat buyers - Part Deaux...
 

On Tue, 15 May 2007 22:48:43 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:46:54 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2007 15:28:17 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
. ..


Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and more
paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage going to help
the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline for their cars.

As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as much as I
trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not for anything.
I think private residences with more than one kitchen facility setup should
be taxed at a rate triple that of a single kitchen house, six times more if
the second facility is part of a home office. The overage should go to fund
homeless meals.

Personally, I think all people who have two kitchens should be taxed
as you suggest plus if they own a Parker, an additional 50% usage tax
should be added just because. :)

I actually may try to sell the Parker this year, instead of just talking
about it.

Seriously?

Will you be replacing it?

Maybe he just has no need for two good sized boats.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 May 2007 11:01:13 -0400, HK wrote:

Isn't it interesting that once
again, at the beginning of summer, so many refineries are shut down for
maintenance? What a coincidence.

Isn't it interesting that once
again, at the beginning of summer, so many conspiracy theories are
running rampant.

Who will be to blame in the next administration?




What conspiracy is causing Congress under the leadership of Peolosi to have
an even lower rating than President Bush. 29%. Damn, that is hard to do.

I hate boat buyers - Part Deaux...
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 15, 8:01 am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 15, 12:58 am, jps wrote:
In article .com,
says...
On May 14, 5:33 pm, jps wrote:
Still have the Tolly, or are you "between" boats?
Between. Would invest but, unless it's a 8 kt. single screw with oar
locks, couldn't bear the thought of the fuel costs. I've been a twin-
screw guy my whole life. I like having a set of props. It scares me
to fill up the car these days.
I do miss floating around in a pretty big way. I need to haul the
whaler down to the lake and have run around. Perhaps my spirits will
be
"buoyed"? :)
jps- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Charter.
It's too bad the Cheney-Bush National Energy Policy's sole goal was to
enrich the oil companiies and refiners. Isn't it interesting that once
again, at the beginning of summer, so many refineries are shut down for
maintenance? What a coincidence.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Harry, don't buy the baloney.

If the price of crude oil dropped to $10 a bbl and if we had excess
refinery capacity
we would still see fuel prices about as high as they are.

Nobody sells a product for less than the market has demonstrated a
willingness to pay.

Like the oil company apologists keep repeating, it's a matter of
supply and demand.
They will reluctantly supply us with as much as we want as long as we
pay whatever they demand. Once again this summer we'll eclipse all
previous price records as BIGOIL continues to discover whether there's
a price point beyond which we won't buy refined products. So far, they
haven't found it.


And if we drilled ANWR until it looked like swiss cheese, we would
still be paying about the same for gas and diesel but BIGOIL would
have an additional supply of raw material.

jps' lament that he would buy a boat if he could tolerate the price of
fuel is being repeated
about 100,000 times across the country this year. Those of us who
enjoy motorized recreation (boats, RV's, light planes, etc) will be
gob-smacked with some major paradigm shifts in the next 2-3 years.



As I have stated before, the oil companies need to have citizen oversight
on their financial operations, among other controls.
\

Where was the tears when a few years ago, the oil companies were making 2%
on their money? One of the causes for the mergers.

I hate boat buyers - Part Deaux...
 

Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 15, 8:01 am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 15, 12:58 am, jps wrote:
In article .com,
says...
On May 14, 5:33 pm, jps wrote:
Still have the Tolly, or are you "between" boats?
Between. Would invest but, unless it's a 8 kt. single screw with oar
locks, couldn't bear the thought of the fuel costs. I've been a twin-
screw guy my whole life. I like having a set of props. It scares me
to fill up the car these days.
I do miss floating around in a pretty big way. I need to haul the
whaler down to the lake and have run around. Perhaps my spirits will
be
"buoyed"? :)
jps- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Charter.
It's too bad the Cheney-Bush National Energy Policy's sole goal was to
enrich the oil companiies and refiners. Isn't it interesting that once
again, at the beginning of summer, so many refineries are shut down for
maintenance? What a coincidence.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Harry, don't buy the baloney.

If the price of crude oil dropped to $10 a bbl and if we had excess
refinery capacity
we would still see fuel prices about as high as they are.

Nobody sells a product for less than the market has demonstrated a
willingness to pay.

Like the oil company apologists keep repeating, it's a matter of
supply and demand.
They will reluctantly supply us with as much as we want as long as we
pay whatever they demand. Once again this summer we'll eclipse all
previous price records as BIGOIL continues to discover whether there's
a price point beyond which we won't buy refined products. So far, they
haven't found it.


And if we drilled ANWR until it looked like swiss cheese, we would
still be paying about the same for gas and diesel but BIGOIL would
have an additional supply of raw material.

jps' lament that he would buy a boat if he could tolerate the price of
fuel is being repeated
about 100,000 times across the country this year. Those of us who
enjoy motorized recreation (boats, RV's, light planes, etc) will be
gob-smacked with some major paradigm shifts in the next 2-3 years.


As I have stated before, the oil companies need to have citizen oversight
on their financial operations, among other controls.
\

Where was the tears when a few years ago, the oil companies were making 2%
on their money? One of the causes for the mergers.



You actually believe that they were making 2%?

I hate boat buyers - Part Deaux...
 

"Dan" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Dan" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"Dan" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
The HK Foundation appreciates those monthly checks you send, and
promises not to tell everyone about the *five illegitimate children
you fathered in the Carolinas during your last trip there*.
What?? Didn't think our Tom had it in him! Good show.
The puppy speaks!

Speaking about a puppy............... you sure do like sniffing around
my butt.
That's an odd response, Don. Did you read it before you clicked "send"?

You should have before you replied. Comprehension is easier when stone
cold sober.

Is this another "OOPS" moment, Don? Are you confusing me with someone
else again?

Not likely.. no one else comes close to resembling your profile or antics.

I hate boat buyers - Part Deaux...
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 15, 8:01 am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 15, 12:58 am, jps wrote:
In article .com,
says...
On May 14, 5:33 pm, jps wrote:
Still have the Tolly, or are you "between" boats?
Between. Would invest but, unless it's a 8 kt. single screw with
oar
locks, couldn't bear the thought of the fuel costs. I've been a
twin-
screw guy my whole life. I like having a set of props. It scares
me to fill up the car these days.
I do miss floating around in a pretty big way. I need to haul the
whaler down to the lake and have run around. Perhaps my spirits
will be
"buoyed"? :)
jps- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Charter.
It's too bad the Cheney-Bush National Energy Policy's sole goal was to
enrich the oil companiies and refiners. Isn't it interesting that once
again, at the beginning of summer, so many refineries are shut down
for
maintenance? What a coincidence.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Harry, don't buy the baloney.

If the price of crude oil dropped to $10 a bbl and if we had excess
refinery capacity
we would still see fuel prices about as high as they are.

Nobody sells a product for less than the market has demonstrated a
willingness to pay.

Like the oil company apologists keep repeating, it's a matter of
supply and demand.
They will reluctantly supply us with as much as we want as long as we
pay whatever they demand. Once again this summer we'll eclipse all
previous price records as BIGOIL continues to discover whether there's
a price point beyond which we won't buy refined products. So far, they
haven't found it.


And if we drilled ANWR until it looked like swiss cheese, we would
still be paying about the same for gas and diesel but BIGOIL would
have an additional supply of raw material.

jps' lament that he would buy a boat if he could tolerate the price of
fuel is being repeated
about 100,000 times across the country this year. Those of us who
enjoy motorized recreation (boats, RV's, light planes, etc) will be
gob-smacked with some major paradigm shifts in the next 2-3 years.


As I have stated before, the oil companies need to have citizen
oversight on their financial operations, among other controls.
\

Where was the tears when a few years ago, the oil companies were making
2% on their money? One of the causes for the mergers.

You actually believe that they were making 2%?

You actually believe unions pension funds are honest? If oil companies were
making more money they would not have been consolidations.

I hate boat buyers - Part Deaux...
 

Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 15, 8:01 am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 15, 12:58 am, jps wrote:
In article .com,
says...
On May 14, 5:33 pm, jps wrote:
Still have the Tolly, or are you "between" boats?
Between. Would invest but, unless it's a 8 kt. single screw with
oar
locks, couldn't bear the thought of the fuel costs. I've been a
twin-
screw guy my whole life. I like having a set of props. It scares
me to fill up the car these days.
I do miss floating around in a pretty big way. I need to haul the
whaler down to the lake and have run around. Perhaps my spirits
will be
"buoyed"? :)
jps- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Charter.
It's too bad the Cheney-Bush National Energy Policy's sole goal was to
enrich the oil companiies and refiners. Isn't it interesting that once
again, at the beginning of summer, so many refineries are shut down
for
maintenance? What a coincidence.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Harry, don't buy the baloney.

If the price of crude oil dropped to $10 a bbl and if we had excess
refinery capacity
we would still see fuel prices about as high as they are.

Nobody sells a product for less than the market has demonstrated a
willingness to pay.

Like the oil company apologists keep repeating, it's a matter of
supply and demand.
They will reluctantly supply us with as much as we want as long as we
pay whatever they demand. Once again this summer we'll eclipse all
previous price records as BIGOIL continues to discover whether there's
a price point beyond which we won't buy refined products. So far, they
haven't found it.


And if we drilled ANWR until it looked like swiss cheese, we would
still be paying about the same for gas and diesel but BIGOIL would
have an additional supply of raw material.

jps' lament that he would buy a boat if he could tolerate the price of
fuel is being repeated
about 100,000 times across the country this year. Those of us who
enjoy motorized recreation (boats, RV's, light planes, etc) will be
gob-smacked with some major paradigm shifts in the next 2-3 years.


As I have stated before, the oil companies need to have citizen
oversight on their financial operations, among other controls.
\
Where was the tears when a few years ago, the oil companies were making
2% on their money? One of the causes for the mergers.
You actually believe that they were making 2%?

You actually believe unions pension funds are honest? If oil companies were
making more money they would not have been consolidations.



If union pension fund officers aren't honest, they go to prison. All
union pension fund officers are bonded. If money turns up missing or
misappropriated as a result of the actions of the officers, the bonding
company ensures that the offenders are prosecuted in criminal courts.
The conviction rate is very, very high.

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"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 15, 8:01 am, HK wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 15, 12:58 am, jps wrote:
In article
.com,
says...
On May 14, 5:33 pm, jps wrote:
Still have the Tolly, or are you "between" boats?
Between. Would invest but, unless it's a 8 kt. single screw with
oar
locks, couldn't bear the thought of the fuel costs. I've been a
twin-
screw guy my whole life. I like having a set of props. It scares
me to fill up the car these days.
I do miss floating around in a pretty big way. I need to haul the
whaler down to the lake and have run around. Perhaps my spirits
will be
"buoyed"? :)
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Charter.
It's too bad the Cheney-Bush National Energy Policy's sole goal was
to
enrich the oil companiies and refiners. Isn't it interesting that
once
again, at the beginning of summer, so many refineries are shut down
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Harry, don't buy the baloney.

If the price of crude oil dropped to $10 a bbl and if we had excess
refinery capacity
we would still see fuel prices about as high as they are.

Nobody sells a product for less than the market has demonstrated a
willingness to pay.

Like the oil company apologists keep repeating, it's a matter of
supply and demand.
They will reluctantly supply us with as much as we want as long as we
pay whatever they demand. Once again this summer we'll eclipse all
previous price records as BIGOIL continues to discover whether
there's
a price point beyond which we won't buy refined products. So far,
they
haven't found it.


And if we drilled ANWR until it looked like swiss cheese, we would
still be paying about the same for gas and diesel but BIGOIL would
have an additional supply of raw material.

jps' lament that he would buy a boat if he could tolerate the price
of
fuel is being repeated
about 100,000 times across the country this year. Those of us who
enjoy motorized recreation (boats, RV's, light planes, etc) will be
gob-smacked with some major paradigm shifts in the next 2-3 years.


As I have stated before, the oil companies need to have citizen
oversight on their financial operations, among other controls.
\
Where was the tears when a few years ago, the oil companies were making
2% on their money? One of the causes for the mergers.
You actually believe that they were making 2%?

You actually believe unions pension funds are honest? If oil companies
were making more money they would not have been consolidations.

If union pension fund officers aren't honest, they go to prison. All union
pension fund officers are bonded. If money turns up missing or
misappropriated as a result of the actions of the officers, the bonding
company ensures that the offenders are prosecuted in criminal courts. The
conviction rate is very, very high.


Bwaaaaaaha. . . . .

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"HK" wrote in message
. ..


If union pension fund officers aren't honest, they go to prison. All union
pension fund officers are bonded. If money turns up missing or
misappropriated as a result of the actions of the officers, the bonding
company ensures that the offenders are prosecuted in criminal courts. The
conviction rate is very, very high.


It's too bad politicians aren't held to the same standard/punishment.

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"Don White" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
. ..


If union pension fund officers aren't honest, they go to prison. All
union pension fund officers are bonded. If money turns up missing or
misappropriated as a result of the actions of the officers, the bonding
company ensures that the offenders are prosecuted in criminal courts. The
conviction rate is very, very high.


It's too bad politicians aren't held to the same standard/punishment.


How many Ullico people went to prison?

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Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
If union pension fund officers aren't honest, they go to prison. All union
pension fund officers are bonded. If money turns up missing or
misappropriated as a result of the actions of the officers, the bonding
company ensures that the offenders are prosecuted in criminal courts. The
conviction rate is very, very high.


It's too bad politicians aren't held to the same standard/punishment.


Or corporate executives.

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Calif Bill wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
If union pension fund officers aren't honest, they go to prison. All
union pension fund officers are bonded. If money turns up missing or
misappropriated as a result of the actions of the officers, the bonding
company ensures that the offenders are prosecuted in criminal courts. The
conviction rate is very, very high.

It's too bad politicians aren't held to the same standard/punishment.


How many Ullico people went to prison?



For what? There were no criminal violations, and no pension funds were
missing or misappropriated.

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"HK" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
If union pension fund officers aren't honest, they go to prison. All
union pension fund officers are bonded. If money turns up missing or
misappropriated as a result of the actions of the officers, the bonding
company ensures that the offenders are prosecuted in criminal courts.
The conviction rate is very, very high.

It's too bad politicians aren't held to the same standard/punishment.


How many Ullico people went to prison?

For what? There were no criminal violations, and no pension funds were
missing or misappropriated.

And where did all that money paid to Ullico executives for overpriced stock
come from?

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HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Well, I'm in favor of those with pleasure boats of 40 feet LOA and
more paying twice or three times the pump price, with the overage
going to help the poor buy heating oil for their homes and gasoline
for their cars.

As you may have guessed, I trust oil companies/refiners about as
much as I trust Cheney and Bush, which is to say, not at all. Not
for anything.
I think private residences with more than one kitchen facility setup
should be taxed at a rate triple that of a single kitchen house, six
times more if the second facility is part of a home office. The
overage should go to fund homeless meals.

Eisboch

Sounds like a winner. And those with empty horse barns should be
housing the homeless, and loaning them their vehicles so they can
find work.

Actually, it's not a full kitchen. There's no cooktop or baking oven.
:}


Live in a horsebarn? I think that's an opportunity even the homeless
would say, "No thanks" to.

Eisboch





The smells of nature.

I've got a week or so delay on the kitchenette project. The factory
shipped an incorrectly sized wall cabinet, unfortunately, a cabinet on
the inside of the row on the wall. But all the base cabinets are
installed, along with the dishwasher, its wiring, and the wiring for the
microwave and disposal. I might see my countertops on Friday. Maybe.

My union electrician charged me one-third the price of the non-union
contractor, not because I'm such a sweet guy, but because he was
experienced enough to finish the the wiring in a half day, without
cutting up my ceilings or walls. Slick.

Slick? Pure bull****.

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On May 16, 12:52 pm, HK wrote:

The conviction rate is very, very high


With all sincerity, Harry, That statement doesn't look to good for the
union boss.

At first glance it looks more like the conviction rate is more volume
than severaty.

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On May 18, 7:07 pm, Harry Krause wrote:
Tim wrote:
On May 16, 12:52 pm, HK wrote:

The conviction rate is very, very high

With all sincerity, Harry, That statement doesn't look to good for the
union boss.

At first glance it looks more like the conviction rate is more volume
than severaty.

The volume isn't that high, but the last document I saw indicated the
conviction rate was over 95%. That's a high conviction rate.

agreed. and I knew what you were saying. I was simply commenting on
how it was said.

no problem here

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2007 11:01:13 -0400, HK wrote:


Isn't it interesting that once
again, at the beginning of summer, so many refineries are shut down for
maintenance? What a coincidence.


Isn't it interesting that once
again, at the beginning of summer, so many conspiracy theories are
running rampant.

Who will be to blame in the next administration?




Not to mention that the ideal time to do maintenence work is when they
change over production to the countless "summer blends"

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On May 13, 1:00 am, thunder wrote:


Careful, with all that education, she might tell you the origins of that
quote. It came from a French monarchist.

"Not to be a republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at
thirty is proof of want of head." Francois Guizot (1787-1874) ;-)

Lessee heah

"Proof -of-want-of-head" from a guy that lived between 1787 and
1874,

Was he meaning that when thirty yr.s old,you are wanting to persue the
need of knowledge and common sense?

OR ...

It is your desire to be able to keep your head attached to your
shoulders???

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On 18 May 2007 19:43:16 -0700, Tim wrote:

On May 13, 1:00 am, thunder wrote:


Careful, with all that education, she might tell you the origins of that
quote. It came from a French monarchist.

"Not to be a republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at
thirty is proof of want of head." Francois Guizot (1787-1874) ;-)

Lessee heah

"Proof -of-want-of-head" from a guy that lived between 1787 and
1874,

Was he meaning that when thirty yr.s old,you are wanting to persue the
need of knowledge and common sense?

OR ...

It is your desire to be able to keep your head attached to your
shoulders???

Do either of you actually understand what the quote says?

In context?

~~ sheesh ~~

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On May 19, 5:31 am, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 18 May 2007 19:43:16 -0700, Tim wrote:





On May 13, 1:00 am, thunder wrote:

Careful, with all that education, she might tell you the origins of that
quote. It came from a French monarchist.

"Not to be a republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at
thirty is proof of want of head." Francois Guizot (1787-1874) ;-)

Lessee heah

"Proof -of-want-of-head" from a guy that lived between 1787 and
1874,

Was he meaning that when thirty yr.s old,you are wanting to persue the
need of knowledge and common sense?

OR ...

It is your desire to be able to keep your head attached to your
shoulders???

Do either of you actually understand what the quote says?

In context?

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Probably not, Tom, but then again ....