On inboards and outboards..
 

Well, the afternoon went really well. Learned a lot and can say that
in my opinion, handing a twin outboard boat is considerably easier
than manuevering a twin inboard diesel boat.

Couldn't quite get the whole gearing issue down right. I tried
several techniques I've read about - for instance, putting the
starboard engine in reverse and using the port engine to move the boat
and vice versa. Seemed a lot simpler to me to use just one engine and
use the rudder to manuever, but that doesn't always work in a cross
wind (which I learned rather quickly).

Guess it's just a question of learning the skill.

However, I much prefer just pointing the engine where I want to go and
when. :)

On inboards and outboards..
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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Well, the afternoon went really well. Learned a lot and can say that
in my opinion, handing a twin outboard boat is considerably easier
than manuevering a twin inboard diesel boat.


Regardless of the fact that an inboard is powered by diesel or
gas..........the pivot point is closer to the center of the boat with
inboards vs. outboards which would result in a tighter turning radius with
inboards with the twin inboards literally capable of turning on a dime.

Why was your experience today to the contrary?

On inboards and outboards..
 

"JimH" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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Well, the afternoon went really well. Learned a lot and can say that
in my opinion, handing a twin outboard boat is considerably easier
than manuevering a twin inboard diesel boat.


Regardless of the fact that an inboard is powered by diesel or
gas..........the pivot point is closer to the center of the boat with
inboards vs. outboards which would result in a tighter turning radius with
inboards with the twin inboards literally capable of turning on a dime.

Why was your experience today to the contrary?


I think Short Wave is too accustom to vectored thrust.

Eisboch

On inboards and outboards..
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Well, the afternoon went really well. Learned a lot and can say that
in my opinion, handing a twin outboard boat is considerably easier
than manuevering a twin inboard diesel boat.

Couldn't quite get the whole gearing issue down right. I tried
several techniques I've read about - for instance, putting the
starboard engine in reverse and using the port engine to move the boat
and vice versa. Seemed a lot simpler to me to use just one engine and
use the rudder to manuever, but that doesn't always work in a cross
wind (which I learned rather quickly).

Guess it's just a question of learning the skill.

However, I much prefer just pointing the engine where I want to go and
when. :)

Real inboarders have single screw boats.

On inboards and outboards..
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Real inboarders have single screw boats.

And, after a few mishaps, a stern thruster.

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Real inboarders have single screw boats.

And, after a few mishaps, a stern thruster.

Eisboch




Naw. I can't recall one inboard berthed at my father's marina that was
other than a single screw, and this included boats from about 18' to
well over 40'. All those boat owners seemed to be able to handle their
pleasure craft properly. What it takes is...practice.

I won't deny the value of thrusters, though, bow or stern. They make
life a lot easier.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Real inboarders have single screw boats.



I think the most difficult boat to back into a slip are the older, single
screw Penn Yan inboards with the "tunnel drive" hull design. I am not
sure, but I think because the prop was half enclosed by the tunnel shape of
the hull, it made the boat extremely difficult to predictably back down,
relying on prop walk to move the stern over. Add a little wind or current
and it became almost impossible.

Eisboch

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Real inboarders have single screw boats.

And, after a few mishaps, a stern thruster.

Eisboch


Naw. I can't recall one inboard berthed at my father's marina that was
other than a single screw, and this included boats from about 18' to well
over 40'. All those boat owners seemed to be able to handle their pleasure
craft properly. What it takes is...practice.

I won't deny the value of thrusters, though, bow or stern. They make life
a lot easier.+


I would trade a single screw with a single IO anyday. A single IO has to
be the worst in regards to close quarter maneuverability.

On inboards and outboards..
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Real inboarders have single screw boats.

And, after a few mishaps, a stern thruster.

Eisboch


Naw. I can't recall one inboard berthed at my father's marina that was
other than a single screw, and this included boats from about 18' to well
over 40'. All those boat owners seemed to be able to handle their pleasure
craft properly. What it takes is...practice.

I won't deny the value of thrusters, though, bow or stern. They make life
a lot easier.


I was a little apprehensive the first time I moved Mrs. E's. GB because I
am so familiar with twin screws and how they handle and the GB is a single.
Even though the GB has a stern thruster, I practiced backing it into the
slip several times without using it unless I really blew it. It took a
while to feel comfortable even though the GB tracks very predictably ....
probably because of the keel.

Also, the thruster on the GB is a wimp compared to those on the Navigator.
When you hit one of the Navigator thrusters, the whole boat heels over a
bit. The GB thruster spins, but not a whole lot happens very fast.

I consider myself fairly experienced in handling twin inboards. Now I have
to work on the single. I am also experienced enough to stay tied to the
dock when the wind's blowing over 20-25.

Eisboch