Hi All!
I'm excited. We just agreed to buy a bayliner 1995 bayliner 1600
Capri LS. It's 16ft long, comes with a trailer, motor (force 70) and
actually works! Got it for a song, so I figure it's a good way to get
into boating and to learn. there are 2 problems with the hull. The
Gel coating was damaged in 2 small areas. And the floor boards are
"spongy" in an area. How hard is this stuff to fix? The previous
owner has been using a piece of plywood to lay over the floor. But
it's not rotted through, just soft. Hard/necessary to replace the
flooring? How about the gelcoating? Hrd to repair? The owner said I
could just do a fiberglass patch over it, but I'd like to hear how to
do it right.

Thanks for any help!
Brian\


BTW, got it for $1250.00

wrote:
Hi All!
I'm excited. We just agreed to buy a bayliner 1995 bayliner 1600
Capri LS. It's 16ft long, comes with a trailer, motor (force 70) and
actually works! Got it for a song, so I figure it's a good way to get
into boating and to learn. there are 2 problems with the hull. The
Gel coating was damaged in 2 small areas. And the floor boards are
"spongy" in an area. How hard is this stuff to fix? The previous
owner has been using a piece of plywood to lay over the floor. But
it's not rotted through, just soft. Hard/necessary to replace the
flooring? How about the gelcoating? Hrd to repair? The owner said I
could just do a fiberglass patch over it, but I'd like to hear how to
do it right.

Damaged as in a bump/blister looking thing? It will probably require
some sort of repair - water could have gotten into the fiberglass - you
will probably have to sound it out for water by giving it the thump
test. Gelcoating isn't hard, but if you haven't done it before, it can
be problematic as it requires some specific setup parameters like temp,
humidity, stuff like that.

As to the floor, that can also be a problem as the wood is probably
soft - that's a winter's project if it isn't too bad to use this
summer.

If you are having these kinds of problems, you might want to check
the transom, outdrive seals (if it's an i/o) or if an outboard, check
to see if there is a lot of movement on the transom when the outboard
is moved up and down.

Thanks for any help!

BTW, got it for $1250.00

Hmmmm - a little suspicious.

Then again, Chuck would probably claim that you underpaid by at
least $8,000.

BTW, got it for $1250.00

Hmmmm - a little suspicious.

Great price, but it has some problems. I sold a 1995 19' Reinell bowrider
last year for $7800, but it was in pristine condition. My guess is that
there are probably some outdrive/engine problems hiding there as well.

At the end of the day, if he spends 3-4k for repairs to make it a solid
boat, he's still in good shape.

--Mike

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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wrote:
Hi All!
I'm excited. We just agreed to buy a bayliner 1995 bayliner 1600
Capri LS. It's 16ft long, comes with a trailer, motor (force 70) and
actually works! Got it for a song, so I figure it's a good way to get
into boating and to learn. there are 2 problems with the hull. The
Gel coating was damaged in 2 small areas. And the floor boards are
"spongy" in an area. How hard is this stuff to fix? The previous
owner has been using a piece of plywood to lay over the floor. But
it's not rotted through, just soft. Hard/necessary to replace the
flooring? How about the gelcoating? Hrd to repair? The owner said I
could just do a fiberglass patch over it, but I'd like to hear how to
do it right.

Damaged as in a bump/blister looking thing? It will probably require
some sort of repair - water could have gotten into the fiberglass - you
will probably have to sound it out for water by giving it the thump
test. Gelcoating isn't hard, but if you haven't done it before, it can
be problematic as it requires some specific setup parameters like temp,
humidity, stuff like that.

As to the floor, that can also be a problem as the wood is probably
soft - that's a winter's project if it isn't too bad to use this
summer.

If you are having these kinds of problems, you might want to check
the transom, outdrive seals (if it's an i/o) or if an outboard, check
to see if there is a lot of movement on the transom when the outboard
is moved up and down.

Thanks for any help!

BTW, got it for $1250.00

Hmmmm - a little suspicious.

Then again, Chuck would probably claim that you underpaid by at
least $8,000.

On Apr 17, 6:19?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
Then again, Chuck would probably claim that you underpaid by at
least $8,000.


What provokes your ridiculous personal remarks? Certainly isn't
anything I post about you- I virtually never mention you. Our
apparently increasing mutual disdain doesn't need to be constantly
inserted into random threads.

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Apr 17, 6:19?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
Then again, Chuck would probably claim that you underpaid by at
least $8,000.

What provokes your ridiculous personal remarks? Certainly isn't
anything I post about you- I virtually never mention you. Our
apparently increasing mutual disdain doesn't need to be constantly
inserted into random threads.

Jesus Chuck - just funnin'.

You seriously need an injection of humor. There was nothing personal
in that - in a million years you couldn't make something personal
about that unless you really, really wanted to.

And you were the one who insisted that there is a $10,000 market
for $6,000 boats.

Remember that?

Come one man, I respect you and always have - you are knowledgable,
if a little wordy, and I have never once blasted your articles
when they were posted here. I may not agree with you on some
issues, but I have never disrespected you.

Well, ok, maybe the Bayliner thing but you deserved that. :)

On Apr 17, 6:55�pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Apr 17, 6:19?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
Then again, Chuck would probably claim that you underpaid by at
least $8,000.

What provokes your ridiculous personal remarks? *Certainly isn't
anything I post about you- I virtually never mention you. Our
apparently increasing mutual disdain doesn't need to be constantly
inserted into random threads.

Jesus Chuck - just funnin'.

You seriously need an injection of humor. *There was nothing personal
in that - in a million years you couldn't make something personal
about that unless you really, really wanted to.

And you were the one who insisted that there is a $10,000 market
for $6,000 boats.

Remember that?

Come one man, I respect you and always have - you are knowledgable,
if a little wordy, and I have never once blasted your articles
when they were posted here. *I may not agree with you on some
issues, but I have never disrespected you.

Well, ok, maybe the Bayliner thing but you deserved that. :)

Tom- I'm sorry if I over reacted. Please accept this public apology
for a rather nonproductive public comment. Taking daily shots from a
couple of darn-nearly nonboaters who hang around here primarily to
post off topic and make negative personal remarks has me overly
sensitized. If I had my 'druthers, I'd just simply avoid name dropping
in any of my posts and ask others to do the same.
It's the topics that are important here, not the personalities.

This is supposed to be a newsgroup. Observing that "Gould's an a-hole"
is hardly news. :-)

As far as a $10,000 market for $6000 Bayliners goes, some people might
be very surprised at just how regional the market for that particular
brand can be.
Undoubtedly there are places where a boat that would bring $10k in the
Pac NW would have to be dumped for $6k to find a buyer- but a boat is
only worth (locally) what it will sell for (locally). I can't remember
stating that some boat sold for $6,000 should have brought $10,000- as
an ex yacht broker I would hesitate to assign a value to any boat
without a personal inspection. I do admit to, and stand by, an
observation that an advertised price for a boat that results in the
phone ringing off the hook or the email box filling up almost
immediately was likely too low. The boat market will never be a
"seller's market" unless the seller makes an obvious sacrifice.

Chuck Gould wrote:

Tom- I'm sorry if I over reacted.

No apologies necessary Chuck - but it does show that you are
a classy guy.

And I promise I will never mention the Bayliner thing again.

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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On Apr 17, 6:19?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
Then again, Chuck would probably claim that you underpaid by at
least $8,000.


What provokes your ridiculous personal remarks? Certainly isn't
anything I post about you- I virtually never mention you. Our
apparently increasing mutual disdain doesn't need to be constantly
inserted into random threads.


This is hilarious. Please pass the popcorn.

JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Apr 17, 6:19?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
Then again, Chuck would probably claim that you underpaid by at
least $8,000.

What provokes your ridiculous personal remarks? Certainly isn't
anything I post about you- I virtually never mention you. Our
apparently increasing mutual disdain doesn't need to be constantly
inserted into random threads.

This is hilarious. Please pass the popcorn.

Speaking of popcorn - I hate kettle popcorn.

That stuff is GROSS!!!

I hate kettle popcorn. That stuff is GROSS!!!

I couldn't agree more! My kids love it though.... yucch...

Plain popcorn with REAL butter and salt... that's the only way to go.

--Mike

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Apr 17, 6:19?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
Then again, Chuck would probably claim that you underpaid by at
least $8,000.

What provokes your ridiculous personal remarks? Certainly isn't
anything I post about you- I virtually never mention you. Our
apparently increasing mutual disdain doesn't need to be constantly
inserted into random threads.

This is hilarious. Please pass the popcorn.

Speaking of popcorn - I hate kettle popcorn.

That stuff is GROSS!!!