Bayliner 16 ft, Fish and Ski...
 

Hi All!
I'm excited. We just agreed to buy a bayliner 1995 bayliner 1600
Capri LS. It's 16ft long, comes with a trailer, motor (force 70) and
actually works! Got it for a song, so I figure it's a good way to get
into boating and to learn. there are 2 problems with the hull. The
Gel coating was damaged in 2 small areas. And the floor boards are
"spongy" in an area. How hard is this stuff to fix? The previous
owner has been using a piece of plywood to lay over the floor. But
it's not rotted through, just soft. Hard/necessary to replace the
flooring? How about the gelcoating? Hrd to repair? The owner said I
could just do a fiberglass patch over it, but I'd like to hear how to
do it right.

Thanks for any help!
Brian\


BTW, got it for $1250.00

Bayliner 16 ft, Fish and Ski...
 

Bayliner 16 ft, Fish and Ski...
 

BTW, got it for $1250.00

Hmmmm - a little suspicious.

Great price, but it has some problems. I sold a 1995 19' Reinell bowrider
last year for $7800, but it was in pristine condition. My guess is that
there are probably some outdrive/engine problems hiding there as well.

At the end of the day, if he spends 3-4k for repairs to make it a solid
boat, he's still in good shape.

--Mike

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message ...
wrote:
Hi All!
I'm excited. We just agreed to buy a bayliner 1995 bayliner 1600
Capri LS. It's 16ft long, comes with a trailer, motor (force 70) and
actually works! Got it for a song, so I figure it's a good way to get
into boating and to learn. there are 2 problems with the hull. The
Gel coating was damaged in 2 small areas. And the floor boards are
"spongy" in an area. How hard is this stuff to fix? The previous
owner has been using a piece of plywood to lay over the floor. But
it's not rotted through, just soft. Hard/necessary to replace the
flooring? How about the gelcoating? Hrd to repair? The owner said I
could just do a fiberglass patch over it, but I'd like to hear how to
do it right.

Damaged as in a bump/blister looking thing? It will probably require
some sort of repair - water could have gotten into the fiberglass - you
will probably have to sound it out for water by giving it the thump
test. Gelcoating isn't hard, but if you haven't done it before, it can
be problematic as it requires some specific setup parameters like temp,
humidity, stuff like that.

As to the floor, that can also be a problem as the wood is probably
soft - that's a winter's project if it isn't too bad to use this
summer.

If you are having these kinds of problems, you might want to check
the transom, outdrive seals (if it's an i/o) or if an outboard, check
to see if there is a lot of movement on the transom when the outboard
is moved up and down.

Thanks for any help!

BTW, got it for $1250.00

Hmmmm - a little suspicious.

Then again, Chuck would probably claim that you underpaid by at
least $8,000.

Bayliner 16 ft, Fish and Ski...
 

On Apr 17, 6:19?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
Then again, Chuck would probably claim that you underpaid by at
least $8,000.


What provokes your ridiculous personal remarks? Certainly isn't
anything I post about you- I virtually never mention you. Our
apparently increasing mutual disdain doesn't need to be constantly
inserted into random threads.

Bayliner 16 ft, Fish and Ski...
 

Chuck Gould wrote:
On Apr 17, 6:19?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
Then again, Chuck would probably claim that you underpaid by at
least $8,000.

What provokes your ridiculous personal remarks? Certainly isn't
anything I post about you- I virtually never mention you. Our
apparently increasing mutual disdain doesn't need to be constantly
inserted into random threads.

Jesus Chuck - just funnin'.

You seriously need an injection of humor. There was nothing personal
in that - in a million years you couldn't make something personal
about that unless you really, really wanted to.

And you were the one who insisted that there is a $10,000 market
for $6,000 boats.

Remember that?

Come one man, I respect you and always have - you are knowledgable,
if a little wordy, and I have never once blasted your articles
when they were posted here. I may not agree with you on some
issues, but I have never disrespected you.

Well, ok, maybe the Bayliner thing but you deserved that. :)

Bayliner 16 ft, Fish and Ski...
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Apr 17, 6:19?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
Then again, Chuck would probably claim that you underpaid by at
least $8,000.


What provokes your ridiculous personal remarks? Certainly isn't
anything I post about you- I virtually never mention you. Our
apparently increasing mutual disdain doesn't need to be constantly
inserted into random threads.


This is hilarious. Please pass the popcorn.

Bayliner 16 ft, Fish and Ski...
 

JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Apr 17, 6:19?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
Then again, Chuck would probably claim that you underpaid by at
least $8,000.

What provokes your ridiculous personal remarks? Certainly isn't
anything I post about you- I virtually never mention you. Our
apparently increasing mutual disdain doesn't need to be constantly
inserted into random threads.

This is hilarious. Please pass the popcorn.

Speaking of popcorn - I hate kettle popcorn.

That stuff is GROSS!!!

Bayliner 16 ft, Fish and Ski...
 

I hate kettle popcorn. That stuff is GROSS!!!

I couldn't agree more! My kids love it though.... yucch...

Plain popcorn with REAL butter and salt... that's the only way to go.

--Mike

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message ...
JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Apr 17, 6:19?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
Then again, Chuck would probably claim that you underpaid by at
least $8,000.

What provokes your ridiculous personal remarks? Certainly isn't
anything I post about you- I virtually never mention you. Our
apparently increasing mutual disdain doesn't need to be constantly
inserted into random threads.

This is hilarious. Please pass the popcorn.

Speaking of popcorn - I hate kettle popcorn.

That stuff is GROSS!!!

Bayliner 16 ft, Fish and Ski...
 

Mike wrote:

I couldn't agree more! My kids love it though.... yucch...

Plain popcorn with REAL butter and salt... that's the only way to go.

I have a good friend who makes it by the ton for the Woodstock
Fair and he can't keep up with the demand.

Makes a lot of money for the Academy Band program.

Stuff still sucks.

Bayliner 16 ft, Fish and Ski...
 

On Apr 17, 6:55�pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Apr 17, 6:19?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
Then again, Chuck would probably claim that you underpaid by at
least $8,000.

What provokes your ridiculous personal remarks? *Certainly isn't
anything I post about you- I virtually never mention you. Our
apparently increasing mutual disdain doesn't need to be constantly
inserted into random threads.

Jesus Chuck - just funnin'.

You seriously need an injection of humor. *There was nothing personal
in that - in a million years you couldn't make something personal
about that unless you really, really wanted to.

And you were the one who insisted that there is a $10,000 market
for $6,000 boats.

Remember that?

Come one man, I respect you and always have - you are knowledgable,
if a little wordy, and I have never once blasted your articles
when they were posted here. *I may not agree with you on some
issues, but I have never disrespected you.

Well, ok, maybe the Bayliner thing but you deserved that. :)

Tom- I'm sorry if I over reacted. Please accept this public apology
for a rather nonproductive public comment. Taking daily shots from a
couple of darn-nearly nonboaters who hang around here primarily to
post off topic and make negative personal remarks has me overly
sensitized. If I had my 'druthers, I'd just simply avoid name dropping
in any of my posts and ask others to do the same.
It's the topics that are important here, not the personalities.

This is supposed to be a newsgroup. Observing that "Gould's an a-hole"
is hardly news. :-)

As far as a $10,000 market for $6000 Bayliners goes, some people might
be very surprised at just how regional the market for that particular
brand can be.
Undoubtedly there are places where a boat that would bring $10k in the
Pac NW would have to be dumped for $6k to find a buyer- but a boat is
only worth (locally) what it will sell for (locally). I can't remember
stating that some boat sold for $6,000 should have brought $10,000- as
an ex yacht broker I would hesitate to assign a value to any boat
without a personal inspection. I do admit to, and stand by, an
observation that an advertised price for a boat that results in the
phone ringing off the hook or the email box filling up almost
immediately was likely too low. The boat market will never be a
"seller's market" unless the seller makes an obvious sacrifice.

Bayliner 16 ft, Fish and Ski...
 

On 17 Apr 2007 17:13:28 -0700, wrote:

Hi All!
I'm excited. We just agreed to buy a bayliner 1995 bayliner 1600
Capri LS. It's 16ft long, comes with a trailer, motor (force 70) and
actually works! Got it for a song, so I figure it's a good way to get
into boating and to learn. there are 2 problems with the hull. The
Gel coating was damaged in 2 small areas. And the floor boards are
"spongy" in an area. How hard is this stuff to fix? The previous
owner has been using a piece of plywood to lay over the floor. But
it's not rotted through, just soft. Hard/necessary to replace the
flooring? How about the gelcoating? Hrd to repair? The owner said I
could just do a fiberglass patch over it, but I'd like to hear how to
do it right.

Congratulations!
If you don't have a lot of money in buying it, be careful about
putting a lot into it. Make sure it's safe and you are too by doing
some studying of boating rules, carrying the right safety equipment,
and not putting yourself or loved ones in danger.
If you're handy you can replace the plywood yourself, and there's lots
of guys here with boat experience that can give you some tips about
that and fiberglass repair.
Good luck and happy boating!

--Vic

Bayliner 16 ft, Fish and Ski...
 

Chuck Gould wrote:

Tom- I'm sorry if I over reacted.

No apologies necessary Chuck - but it does show that you are
a classy guy.

And I promise I will never mention the Bayliner thing again.

Bayliner 16 ft, Fish and Ski...
 

On Apr 17, 10:20 pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

ups.com...

On Apr 17, 6:19?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
Then again, Chuck would probably claim that you underpaid by at
least $8,000.

What provokes your ridiculous personal remarks? Certainly isn't
anything I post about you- I virtually never mention you. Our
apparently increasing mutual disdain doesn't need to be constantly
inserted into random threads.

This is hilarious. Please pass the popcorn.

From the original **** stirrer......

Bayliner 16 ft, Fish and Ski...
 

I have a good friend who makes it by the ton for the Woodstock
Fair and he can't keep up with the demand.

I believe it. That stuff was everywhere in Disneyland. Just the smell of it
makes me want to lean overboard...

--Mike

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
message ...
Mike wrote:

I couldn't agree more! My kids love it though.... yucch...

Plain popcorn with REAL butter and salt... that's the only way to go.

I have a good friend who makes it by the ton for the Woodstock
Fair and he can't keep up with the demand.

Makes a lot of money for the Academy Band program.

Stuff still sucks.

Bayliner 16 ft, Fish and Ski...
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi All!
I'm excited. We just agreed to buy a bayliner 1995 bayliner 1600
Capri LS. It's 16ft long, comes with a trailer, motor (force 70) and
actually works! Got it for a song, so I figure it's a good way to get
into boating and to learn. there are 2 problems with the hull. The
Gel coating was damaged in 2 small areas. And the floor boards are
"spongy" in an area. How hard is this stuff to fix? The previous
owner has been using a piece of plywood to lay over the floor. But
it's not rotted through, just soft. Hard/necessary to replace the
flooring? How about the gelcoating? Hrd to repair? The owner said I
could just do a fiberglass patch over it, but I'd like to hear how to
do it right.

Thanks for any help!
Brian\


BTW, got it for $1250.00


My first boat was a 16 footer and had a soft floor too. I picked it up for
300 bucks because the seller thought it did not run. Good deals are out
there...but usually only from owners who know nothing about the boat they
own. Which is the biggest "BEWARE" out there.

If you plan to replace the flooring yourself, be sure to use marine grade
ply woods. I covered the plywood on both sides with a double layer of
fiberglass repair. I completely removed my floor and found structural
problems below it. Even that was not hard to repair. But this was a month
long project. I was not in a hurry.

13 years after selling that boat, I still run into the new owner at the
various lakes I frequent. He's always pleasent and cheerful which leads me
to believe the flooring held up.

Nate

Bayliner 16 ft, Fish and Ski...
 

If the Force runs well, you got a good price on a outboard with a boat
thrown in. I'd do as another suggested and not sink a ton of money into it,
and use it as is, maybe overlay and screw down a piece of plywood over the
spongy area. Good luck, have fun, be safe.....ps there are numerous online
articles on floor replacement - no links for you though- google away.
wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi All!
I'm excited. We just agreed to buy a bayliner 1995 bayliner 1600
Capri LS. It's 16ft long, comes with a trailer, motor (force 70) and
actually works! Got it for a song, so I figure it's a good way to get
into boating and to learn. there are 2 problems with the hull. The
Gel coating was damaged in 2 small areas. And the floor boards are
"spongy" in an area. How hard is this stuff to fix? The previous
owner has been using a piece of plywood to lay over the floor. But
it's not rotted through, just soft. Hard/necessary to replace the
flooring? How about the gelcoating? Hrd to repair? The owner said I
could just do a fiberglass patch over it, but I'd like to hear how to
do it right.

Thanks for any help!
Brian\


BTW, got it for $1250.00

Bayliner 16 ft, Fish and Ski...
 

"Darby OGill" wrote in message
news:pxGVh.9049$k7.7343@trndny05...
If the Force runs well, you got a good price on a outboard with a boat
thrown in. I'd do as another suggested and not sink a ton of money into
it, and use it as is, maybe overlay and screw down a piece of plywood over
the spongy area. Good luck, have fun, be safe.....ps there are numerous
online articles on floor replacement - no links for you though- google
away.
wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi All!
I'm excited. We just agreed to buy a bayliner 1995 bayliner 1600
Capri LS. It's 16ft long, comes with a trailer, motor (force 70) and
actually works! Got it for a song, so I figure it's a good way to get
into boating and to learn. there are 2 problems with the hull. The
Gel coating was damaged in 2 small areas. And the floor boards are
"spongy" in an area. How hard is this stuff to fix? The previous
owner has been using a piece of plywood to lay over the floor. But
it's not rotted through, just soft. Hard/necessary to replace the
flooring? How about the gelcoating? Hrd to repair? The owner said I
could just do a fiberglass patch over it, but I'd like to hear how to
do it right.

Thanks for any help!
Brian\


BTW, got it for $1250.00




If you end up cutting out the floor, make mearsurements of the width of the
boat at several places and make a couple of braces to keep the sides from
moving outward. The floor acts as joists to keep the sides in alignment
also.