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John H. April 17th 07 12:51 PM

New dehooker..,
 
looks easier to use than the old style. This one got a good write-up in
Motor Boating mag.

http://dehooker4arc.com/training.html

With the new striper rules for Chesapeake Bay, these will come in handy and
may save a few more fish. Highly recommended.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

Chuck Gould April 17th 07 05:31 PM

New dehooker..,
 
On Apr 17, 4:51�am, John H. wrote:
looks easier to use than the old style. This one got a good write-up in
Motor Boating mag.

http://dehooker4arc.com/training.html

With the new striper rules for Chesapeake Bay, these will come in handy and
may save a few more fish. Highly recommended.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

* * * * * John H


Isn't the mortality rate pretty high among fish that are caught and
then released?

I'm not much of a fisherman, but I wonder if a lot of avid fishers
continue hooking fish after fish after fish when the bite is on, even
when they might already have a daily limit aboard? One of those
awkward places where, for some, enjoyment of the pastime and
protection of the resource might require some careful balancing.


Harry Krause April 17th 07 05:40 PM

New dehooker..,
 
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Apr 17, 4:51�am, John H. wrote:
looks easier to use than the old style. This one got a good write-up in
Motor Boating mag.

http://dehooker4arc.com/training.html

With the new striper rules for Chesapeake Bay, these will come in handy and
may save a few more fish. Highly recommended.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

� � � � � John H


Isn't the mortality rate pretty high among fish that are caught and
then released?

I'm not much of a fisherman, but I wonder if a lot of avid fishers
continue hooking fish after fish after fish when the bite is on, even
when they might already have a daily limit aboard? One of those
awkward places where, for some, enjoyment of the pastime and
protection of the resource might require some careful balancing.



There are plenty of "pig" fishermen around.

For the rest of us, circle hooks with the barb pinched down is the way
to go, because most of the fish one catches will be lip hooked, easy to
release and less traumatized.

basskisser April 17th 07 05:53 PM

New dehooker..,
 
On Apr 17, 12:31 pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On Apr 17, 4:51?am, John H. wrote:

looks easier to use than the old style. This one got a good write-up in
Motor Boating mag.


http://dehooker4arc.com/training.html


With the new striper rules for Chesapeake Bay, these will come in handy and
may save a few more fish. Highly recommended.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****


? ? ? ? ? John H


Isn't the mortality rate pretty high among fish that are caught and
then released?

I'm not much of a fisherman, but I wonder if a lot of avid fishers
continue hooking fish after fish after fish when the bite is on, even
when they might already have a daily limit aboard? One of those
awkward places where, for some, enjoyment of the pastime and
protection of the resource might require some careful balancing.


Only those that are gut hooked by people waiting and waiting until the
hook is about to be shat out before setting the hook.


[email protected] April 17th 07 06:59 PM

New dehooker..,
 
On Apr 17, 7:51 am, John H. wrote:
looks easier to use than the old style. This one got a good write-up in
Motor Boating mag.

http://dehooker4arc.com/training.html

With the new striper rules for Chesapeake Bay, these will come in handy and
may save a few more fish. Highly recommended.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H


Yeah, but you have no control of the hook, especially if the fish is
moving. I still think a good set of the narrow nose locking scissors
type pliers give you much more control of the hook.


John H. April 17th 07 07:46 PM

New dehooker..,
 
On 17 Apr 2007 09:31:05 -0700, Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Apr 17, 4:51?am, John H. wrote:
looks easier to use than the old style. This one got a good write-up in
Motor Boating mag.

http://dehooker4arc.com/training.html

With the new striper rules for Chesapeake Bay, these will come in handy and
may save a few more fish. Highly recommended.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H


Isn't the mortality rate pretty high among fish that are caught and
then released?

I'm not much of a fisherman, but I wonder if a lot of avid fishers
continue hooking fish after fish after fish when the bite is on, even
when they might already have a daily limit aboard? One of those
awkward places where, for some, enjoyment of the pastime and
protection of the resource might require some careful balancing.


I just read that about 8% of stripers released after being caught
eventually die. But, I can't remember where I read it. It may have been the
Chesapeake Bay Foundation newsletter.

Yes, there are some total assholes who continue fishing after reaching
their limit. But, more common are those who catch a 17" fish when the
minimum size is 18". During the spring trophy season, for example, the
limits a one fish 18" - 35" or larger than 41". Anything less than 18"
or between 35" and 41" must be released.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

John H. April 17th 07 08:57 PM

New dehooker..,
 
On 17 Apr 2007 10:59:39 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 17, 7:51 am, John H. wrote:
looks easier to use than the old style. This one got a good write-up in
Motor Boating mag.

http://dehooker4arc.com/training.html

With the new striper rules for Chesapeake Bay, these will come in handy and
may save a few more fish. Highly recommended.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H


Yeah, but you have no control of the hook, especially if the fish is
moving. I still think a good set of the narrow nose locking scissors
type pliers give you much more control of the hook.


Once the hook is released, keeping tension on the line will keep the hook
in the dehooker.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

Vic Smith April 17th 07 10:50 PM

New dehooker..,
 
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:57:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On 17 Apr 2007 10:59:39 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 17, 7:51 am, John H. wrote:
looks easier to use than the old style. This one got a good write-up in
Motor Boating mag.

http://dehooker4arc.com/training.html

With the new striper rules for Chesapeake Bay, these will come in handy and
may save a few more fish. Highly recommended.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H


Yeah, but you have no control of the hook, especially if the fish is
moving. I still think a good set of the narrow nose locking scissors
type pliers give you much more control of the hook.


Once the hook is released, keeping tension on the line will keep the hook
in the dehooker.


That looks good, but sometimes you have to push pretty far down to get
the hook clear of the tissue. The loop of this disgorger looks big
enough to do further damage to the fish's gut.
Hard to say unless you actually try it out.
The real problem though is the demo doesn't show hands for a reason.
Looks like it would take 3. One for the fish, one to keep the line
tensioned, and one to use the disgorger.
Probably something that won't get used.
I use a long needlenose (the narrow needles themselves are @ 6")
but they don't lock - haven't seen those. One hand for the pliers and
one for the fish. Line is loose.
Can anybody point me the locking type?

Thanks,

--Vic

CalifBill April 17th 07 11:09 PM

New dehooker..,
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:57:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On 17 Apr 2007 10:59:39 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 17, 7:51 am, John H. wrote:
looks easier to use than the old style. This one got a good write-up in
Motor Boating mag.

http://dehooker4arc.com/training.html

With the new striper rules for Chesapeake Bay, these will come in handy
and
may save a few more fish. Highly recommended.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

Yeah, but you have no control of the hook, especially if the fish is
moving. I still think a good set of the narrow nose locking scissors
type pliers give you much more control of the hook.


Once the hook is released, keeping tension on the line will keep the hook
in the dehooker.


That looks good, but sometimes you have to push pretty far down to get
the hook clear of the tissue. The loop of this disgorger looks big
enough to do further damage to the fish's gut.
Hard to say unless you actually try it out.
The real problem though is the demo doesn't show hands for a reason.
Looks like it would take 3. One for the fish, one to keep the line
tensioned, and one to use the disgorger.
Probably something that won't get used.
I use a long needlenose (the narrow needles themselves are @ 6")
but they don't lock - haven't seen those. One hand for the pliers and
one for the fish. Line is loose.
Can anybody point me the locking type?

Thanks,

--Vic


Use the Shelton Self Releasing hooks.
http://www.sheltonproducts.com/
He makes a sal****er version also for bigger fish.



John H. April 18th 07 01:00 AM

New dehooker..,
 
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:50:02 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:57:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On 17 Apr 2007 10:59:39 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 17, 7:51 am, John H. wrote:
looks easier to use than the old style. This one got a good write-up in
Motor Boating mag.

http://dehooker4arc.com/training.html

With the new striper rules for Chesapeake Bay, these will come in handy and
may save a few more fish. Highly recommended.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

Yeah, but you have no control of the hook, especially if the fish is
moving. I still think a good set of the narrow nose locking scissors
type pliers give you much more control of the hook.


Once the hook is released, keeping tension on the line will keep the hook
in the dehooker.


That looks good, but sometimes you have to push pretty far down to get
the hook clear of the tissue. The loop of this disgorger looks big
enough to do further damage to the fish's gut.
Hard to say unless you actually try it out.
The real problem though is the demo doesn't show hands for a reason.
Looks like it would take 3. One for the fish, one to keep the line
tensioned, and one to use the disgorger.
Probably something that won't get used.
I use a long needlenose (the narrow needles themselves are @ 6")
but they don't lock - haven't seen those. One hand for the pliers and
one for the fish. Line is loose.
Can anybody point me the locking type?

Thanks,

--Vic


It takes quick hands.

Vic Smith April 18th 07 02:55 AM

New dehooker..,
 
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:09:30 GMT, "CalifBill"
wrote:


I use a long needlenose (the narrow needles themselves are @ 6")
but they don't lock - haven't seen those. One hand for the pliers and
one for the fish. Line is loose.
Can anybody point me the locking type?

Thanks,

--Vic


Use the Shelton Self Releasing hooks.
http://www.sheltonproducts.com/
He makes a sal****er version also for bigger fish.

Thanks, didn't know those existed.
I'd probably just go barbless before going there.

--Vic

Short Wave Sportfishing April 18th 07 03:06 AM

New dehooker..,
 
John H. wrote:
looks easier to use than the old style. This one got a good write-up in
Motor Boating mag.

http://dehooker4arc.com/training.html

With the new striper rules for Chesapeake Bay, these will come in handy and
may save a few more fish. Highly recommended.


I saw those at the RISAA show before we drove down here. I'm
not convinced they will do any less damage than any other
dehooker.

Barbless - only way to fly.

Wayne.B April 18th 07 05:00 AM

New dehooker..,
 
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:50:02 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I use a long needlenose (the narrow needles themselves are @ 6")
but they don't lock - haven't seen those. One hand for the pliers and
one for the fish. Line is loose.
Can anybody point me the locking type?


They are actually a surgical instrument called a hemostat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemostat

You can buy them online in different sizes:

http://www.hobbytool.com/browseprodu...tat-Clamp.html


Vic Smith April 18th 07 05:34 AM

New dehooker..,
 
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:00:35 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:50:02 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I use a long needlenose (the narrow needles themselves are @ 6")
but they don't lock - haven't seen those. One hand for the pliers and
one for the fish. Line is loose.
Can anybody point me the locking type?


They are actually a surgical instrument called a hemostat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemostat

You can buy them online in different sizes:

http://www.hobbytool.com/browseprodu...tat-Clamp.html


Thanks Wayne. Site added to favorites.
I actually have a couple smaller ones (5") but never thought about
using them for hook removers. The 10" might do.

--Vic

Calif Bill April 18th 07 05:47 AM

New dehooker..,
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:00:35 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:50:02 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

I use a long needlenose (the narrow needles themselves are @ 6")
but they don't lock - haven't seen those. One hand for the pliers and
one for the fish. Line is loose.
Can anybody point me the locking type?


They are actually a surgical instrument called a hemostat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemostat

You can buy them online in different sizes:

http://www.hobbytool.com/browseprodu...tat-Clamp.html


Thanks Wayne. Site added to favorites.
I actually have a couple smaller ones (5") but never thought about
using them for hook removers. The 10" might do.

--Vic


Friend got a Needle Driver from a surgeon and said it even works better.
Better grip on hte hook.



Vic Smith April 18th 07 06:02 AM

New dehooker..,
 
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:47:40 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


Friend got a Needle Driver from a surgeon and said it even works better.
Better grip on hte hook.

I looked for a supplier on the net to no avail.
Maybe the surgeons a have medical version of the mechanics Snap-On
trucks making the rounds of the hospitals.
Anyway, I'm starting to feel silly about this, and think I'll stick
with my needlenose pliers. Hell, I don't even know when I'll be
fishing again.
But thanks anyway.

--Vic

Mike April 18th 07 10:29 PM

New dehooker..,
 
I would venture to say that most bait/tackle shops carry them. That's where
I got mine.

--Mike

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:47:40 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


Friend got a Needle Driver from a surgeon and said it even works better.
Better grip on hte hook.

I looked for a supplier on the net to no avail.
Maybe the surgeons a have medical version of the mechanics Snap-On
trucks making the rounds of the hospitals.
Anyway, I'm starting to feel silly about this, and think I'll stick
with my needlenose pliers. Hell, I don't even know when I'll be
fishing again.
But thanks anyway.

--Vic




[email protected] April 19th 07 10:32 PM

New dehooker..,
 
On Apr 18, 12:00 am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:50:02 -0500, Vic Smith

wrote:
I use a long needlenose (the narrow needles themselves are @ 6")
but they don't lock - haven't seen those. One hand for the pliers and
one for the fish. Line is loose.
Can anybody point me the locking type?


They are actually a surgical instrument called a hemostat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemostat

You can buy them online in different sizes:

http://www.hobbytool.com/browseprodu...tat-Clamp.html


Yeah, that's what they are called. Got a pair about 12 inches long
from Walmart a few years ago, love em', work great even for bigger
fish.



John H. April 20th 07 12:09 AM

New dehooker..,
 
On 19 Apr 2007 14:32:39 -0700, wrote:

On Apr 18, 12:00 am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:50:02 -0500, Vic Smith

wrote:
I use a long needlenose (the narrow needles themselves are @ 6")
but they don't lock - haven't seen those. One hand for the pliers and
one for the fish. Line is loose.
Can anybody point me the locking type?


They are actually a surgical instrument called a hemostat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemostat

You can buy them online in different sizes:

http://www.hobbytool.com/browseprodu...tat-Clamp.html


Yeah, that's what they are called. Got a pair about 12 inches long
from Walmart a few years ago, love em', work great even for bigger
fish.


They work well, as long as you can see the hook. One advantage of the
dehooker is that you don't have to see the hook. The line guides the
dehooker to the hook.

[email protected] April 25th 07 11:04 PM

New dehooker..,
 
On Apr 19, 7:09 pm, John H. wrote:
On 19 Apr 2007 14:32:39 -0700, wrote:





On Apr 18, 12:00 am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:50:02 -0500, Vic Smith


wrote:
I use a long needlenose (the narrow needles themselves are @ 6")
but they don't lock - haven't seen those. One hand for the pliers and
one for the fish. Line is loose.
Can anybody point me the locking type?


They are actually a surgical instrument called a hemostat.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemostat


You can buy them online in different sizes:


http://www.hobbytool.com/browseprodu...tat-Clamp.html


Yeah, that's what they are called. Got a pair about 12 inches long
from Walmart a few years ago, love em', work great even for bigger
fish.


They work well, as long as you can see the hook. One advantage of the
dehooker is that you don't have to see the hook. The line guides the
dehooker to the hook.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Not necessarily true. Mine are curved at the tip so you can open them
slightly and slide them right down the line. Works for me.



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