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We had a discussion on glucosamine & chondroitin several months back. My
wife and I had been taking it (Costco brand) for a year or so and saw our
joint pains eliminated. You stated that it was a placebo effect and that
studies show the stuff is useless.

After reading more studies I thought maybe you were right...........so we
stopped taking it 2 or 3 weeks ago.

Guess what? My joint pains are back, most especially in my knees. I asked
my wife this morning if she noticed anything different and she also noticed
joint pains where there were none before while taking the G&C.

Maybe the stuff does not work for some folks but it definitely works for us.

I am heading out to Costco this morning to buy a bottle of the stuff. After
taking it for a month or so I will report back to let you know if the joint
pains went away again.

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On Apr 14, 10:45 am, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 08:09:40 -0400, "JimH" wrote:
We had a discussion on glucosamine & chondroitin several months back. My
wife and I had been taking it (Costco brand) for a year or so and saw our
joint pains eliminated. You stated that it was a placebo effect and that
studies show the stuff is useless.

After reading more studies I thought maybe you were right...........so we
stopped taking it 2 or 3 weeks ago.

Guess what? My joint pains are back, most especially in my knees. I asked
my wife this morning if she noticed anything different and she also noticed
joint pains where there were none before while taking the G&C.

Maybe the stuff does not work for some folks but it definitely works for us.

I am heading out to Costco this morning to buy a bottle of the stuff. After
taking it for a month or so I will report back to let you know if the joint
pains went away again.

Bad karma? Placebo effects? Reading comprehension challenges?
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*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H- Hide quoted text -

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He's just looking to get into a ****ing contest, as usual.

ShortWave
 

"JimH" wrote in message
...
We had a discussion on glucosamine & chondroitin several months back. My
wife and I had been taking it (Costco brand) for a year or so and saw our
joint pains eliminated. You stated that it was a placebo effect and that
studies show the stuff is useless.

After reading more studies I thought maybe you were right...........so we
stopped taking it 2 or 3 weeks ago.

Guess what? My joint pains are back, most especially in my knees. I
asked my wife this morning if she noticed anything different and she also
noticed joint pains where there were none before while taking the G&C.

Maybe the stuff does not work for some folks but it definitely works for
us.

I am heading out to Costco this morning to buy a bottle of the stuff.
After taking it for a month or so I will report back to let you know if
the joint pains went away again.


I wouldn't take much stock in any medical advice you might be given in
here...especially if the 'good doctor' moonlights as a 'sheriff'!

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On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 08:09:40 -0400, "JimH" wrote:

We had a discussion on glucosamine & chondroitin several months back. My
wife and I had been taking it (Costco brand) for a year or so and saw our
joint pains eliminated. You stated that it was a placebo effect and that
studies show the stuff is useless.

After reading more studies I thought maybe you were right...........so we
stopped taking it 2 or 3 weeks ago.

Guess what? My joint pains are back, most especially in my knees. I asked
my wife this morning if she noticed anything different and she also noticed
joint pains where there were none before while taking the G&C.

Maybe the stuff does not work for some folks but it definitely works for us.

I am heading out to Costco this morning to buy a bottle of the stuff. After
taking it for a month or so I will report back to let you know if the joint
pains went away again.


Bad karma? Placebo effects? Reading comprehension challenges?
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

ShortWave
 

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 14:06:43 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"JimH" wrote in message
...
We had a discussion on glucosamine & chondroitin several months back. My
wife and I had been taking it (Costco brand) for a year or so and saw our
joint pains eliminated. You stated that it was a placebo effect and that
studies show the stuff is useless.

After reading more studies I thought maybe you were right...........so we
stopped taking it 2 or 3 weeks ago.

Guess what? My joint pains are back, most especially in my knees. I
asked my wife this morning if she noticed anything different and she also
noticed joint pains where there were none before while taking the G&C.

Maybe the stuff does not work for some folks but it definitely works for
us.

I am heading out to Costco this morning to buy a bottle of the stuff.
After taking it for a month or so I will report back to let you know if
the joint pains went away again.


I wouldn't take much stock in any medical advice you might be given in
here...especially if the 'good doctor' moonlights as a 'sheriff'!


Anything which improves his karma is good, no?

BTW, have you made your contribution to the CBF to get a tree planted in
your name? By now Harry should have received his card from them. Just
imagine, a big, old oak in your name. Wow.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

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"John H." wrote in message
...
BTW, have you made your contribution to the CBF to get a tree planted in
your name? By now Harry should have received his card from them. Just
imagine, a big, old oak in your name. Wow.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H


You'd like that wouldn't you? Bet you'd be ****ing on it everytime you
passed by.

ShortWave
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...
BTW, have you made your contribution to the CBF to get a tree planted in
your name? By now Harry should have received his card from them. Just
imagine, a big, old oak in your name. Wow.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H


You'd like that wouldn't you? Bet you'd be ****ing on it everytime you
passed by.


Old man Herring really has a thing for Harry lately. I bet he is trying to
get some free boat rides out of it.

ShortWave
 

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 18:12:52 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
BTW, have you made your contribution to the CBF to get a tree planted in
your name? By now Harry should have received his card from them. Just
imagine, a big, old oak in your name. Wow.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H


You'd like that wouldn't you? Bet you'd be ****ing on it everytime you
passed by.


You're confusing me with some of your buddies.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

ShortWave
 

"JimH" wrote in message
...

Old man Herring really has a thing for Harry lately. I bet he is trying
to get some free boat rides out of it.



Funny thing is... JohnH was one of the few invited out on Harry's boat, but
got fussy & decided the Parker wasn't worth his time.
You'd think he'd be more appreciative.

ShortWave
 

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:06:23 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"JimH" wrote in message
.. .

Old man Herring really has a thing for Harry lately. I bet he is trying
to get some free boat rides out of it.



Funny thing is... JohnH was one of the few invited out on Harry's boat, but
got fussy & decided the Parker wasn't worth his time.
You'd think he'd be more appreciative.


Donnie, you've got it all wrong. The reason I didn't take up Harry's offer
was because his boat was way too small. Can you imagine having to spend
several hours within 25 feet of Harry Krause? The guy who has a 2500 gallon
septic tank?
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

ShortWave
 

Don White wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Old man Herring really has a thing for Harry lately. I bet he is trying
to get some free boat rides out of it.



Funny thing is... JohnH was one of the few invited out on Harry's boat, but
got fussy & decided the Parker wasn't worth his time.
You'd think he'd be more appreciative.




Herring is an a**hole. That's why he lives in my bozo bin with the rest
of the a**holes.

A friend took delivery of his new boat today, and I went along to help
him with docking and to splice up some lines for his slip. The sun was
out for a little while, and though it was cool, it wasn't chilly. We
went out on the Bay for about 45 minutes and saw a few hard cases
fishing. For what I don't know.

Right now I'm engaged in painting up my home office space in
anticipation of installing new cabinets for a nice work desk and a
kitchenette. Did the design on Autocad, got Home Despot to spec up what
I wanted and order the case goods.

Cabinets are supposed to arrive the last week in April. I'm doing the
electrical, carpentry and plumbing, which gives me the opportunity to
electrocute myself, cut off a few fingers with a table saw, and flood
the lower level.

I'm not doing the countertops, though. Once the cabinets are in, I've
got a countertop guy coming out to do a template from which he
manufactures the counters.

ShortWave
 

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:12:24 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

I'm doing the
electrical, carpentry and plumbing, which gives me the opportunity to
electrocute myself, cut off a few fingers with a table saw, and flood
the lower level.

Been there - done that.

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On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 08:09:40 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


I am heading out to Costco this morning to buy a bottle of the stuff. After
taking it for a month or so I will report back to let you know if the joint
pains went away again.

Whatever floats your boat.

ShortWave
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Old man Herring really has a thing for Harry lately. I bet he is trying
to get some free boat rides out of it.



Funny thing is... JohnH was one of the few invited out on Harry's boat,
but got fussy & decided the Parker wasn't worth his time.
You'd think he'd be more appreciative.


Herring is an a**hole. That's why he lives in my bozo bin with the rest of
the a**holes.

A friend took delivery of his new boat today, and I went along to help him
with docking and to splice up some lines for his slip. The sun was out for
a little while, and though it was cool, it wasn't chilly. We went out on
the Bay for about 45 minutes and saw a few hard cases fishing. For what I
don't know.

Right now I'm engaged in painting up my home office space in anticipation
of installing new cabinets for a nice work desk and a kitchenette. Did the
design on Autocad, got Home Despot to spec up what I wanted and order the
case goods.

Cabinets are supposed to arrive the last week in April. I'm doing the
electrical, carpentry and plumbing, which gives me the opportunity to
electrocute myself, cut off a few fingers with a table saw, and flood the
lower level.

I'm not doing the countertops, though. Once the cabinets are in, I've got
a countertop guy coming out to do a template from which he manufactures
the counters.



I feel for you. During the last 2 weeks of March we went through a family
room, kitchen and foyer update and will soon be in the midst of a total tear
out/make over of our master bath and powder room. Of course Mrs. H. also
wanted to replace furniture and wall decor to make sure it fit in with the
make over.

After the master bath/powder room project is complete and the dust finally
settles we will have new carpeting installed in my office, the foyer stairs
and hall and the basement (flooded out 7-06).

Good luck with your project Harry. I cannot wait for ours to end. ;-)

ShortWave
 

Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Old man Herring really has a thing for Harry lately. I bet he is
trying to get some free boat rides out of it.



Funny thing is... JohnH was one of the few invited out on Harry's
boat, but got fussy & decided the Parker wasn't worth his time.
You'd think he'd be more appreciative.



Herring is an a**hole. That's why he lives in my bozo bin with the rest
of the a**holes.

A friend took delivery of his new boat today, and I went along to help
him with docking and to splice up some lines for his slip. The sun was
out for a little while, and though it was cool, it wasn't chilly. We
went out on the Bay for about 45 minutes and saw a few hard cases
fishing. For what I don't know.

Right now I'm engaged in painting up my home office space in
anticipation of installing new cabinets for a nice work desk and a
kitchenette. Did the design on Autocad, got Home Despot to spec up what
I wanted and order the case goods.

Cabinets are supposed to arrive the last week in April. I'm doing the
electrical, carpentry and plumbing, which gives me the opportunity to
electrocute myself, cut off a few fingers with a table saw, and flood
the lower level.

I'm not doing the countertops, though. Once the cabinets are in, I've
got a countertop guy coming out to do a template from which he
manufactures the counters.



Good for you! Keep dreaming, Harry!

ShortWave
 

JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Old man Herring really has a thing for Harry lately. I bet he is trying
to get some free boat rides out of it.


Funny thing is... JohnH was one of the few invited out on Harry's boat,
but got fussy & decided the Parker wasn't worth his time.
You'd think he'd be more appreciative.

Herring is an a**hole. That's why he lives in my bozo bin with the rest of
the a**holes.

A friend took delivery of his new boat today, and I went along to help him
with docking and to splice up some lines for his slip. The sun was out for
a little while, and though it was cool, it wasn't chilly. We went out on
the Bay for about 45 minutes and saw a few hard cases fishing. For what I
don't know.

Right now I'm engaged in painting up my home office space in anticipation
of installing new cabinets for a nice work desk and a kitchenette. Did the
design on Autocad, got Home Despot to spec up what I wanted and order the
case goods.

Cabinets are supposed to arrive the last week in April. I'm doing the
electrical, carpentry and plumbing, which gives me the opportunity to
electrocute myself, cut off a few fingers with a table saw, and flood the
lower level.

I'm not doing the countertops, though. Once the cabinets are in, I've got
a countertop guy coming out to do a template from which he manufactures
the counters.



I feel for you. During the last 2 weeks of March we went through a family
room, kitchen and foyer update and will soon be in the midst of a total tear
out/make over of our master bath and powder room. Of course Mrs. H. also
wanted to replace furniture and wall decor to make sure it fit in with the
make over.

After the master bath/powder room project is complete and the dust finally
settles we will have new carpeting installed in my office, the foyer stairs
and hall and the basement (flooded out 7-06).

Good luck with your project Harry. I cannot wait for ours to end. ;-)




The only thing that saves me from being redecorated or put out on the
curb is my age. My young wife likes "old" stuff.

ShortWave
 

"JimH" wrote in message
...
We had a discussion on glucosamine & chondroitin several months back. My
wife and I had been taking it (Costco brand) for a year or so and saw our
joint pains eliminated. You stated that it was a placebo effect and that
studies show the stuff is useless.

After reading more studies I thought maybe you were right...........so we
stopped taking it 2 or 3 weeks ago.

Guess what? My joint pains are back, most especially in my knees. I
asked my wife this morning if she noticed anything different and she also
noticed joint pains where there were none before while taking the G&C.

Maybe the stuff does not work for some folks but it definitely works for
us.

I am heading out to Costco this morning to buy a bottle of the stuff.
After taking it for a month or so I will report back to let you know if
the joint pains went away again.


We need to get this back to the original topic.

Tom, you need to check in.

ShortWave
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
snip..
Right now I'm engaged in painting up my home office space in anticipation
of installing new cabinets for a nice work desk and a kitchenette. Did the
design on Autocad, got Home Despot to spec up what I wanted and order the
case goods.

Cabinets are supposed to arrive the last week in April. I'm doing the
electrical, carpentry and plumbing, which gives me the opportunity to
electrocute myself, cut off a few fingers with a table saw, and flood the
lower level.

I'm not doing the countertops, though. Once the cabinets are in, I've got
a countertop guy coming out to do a template from which he manufactures
the counters.



What will the counters be made of...the laminate stuff or Coran?
No major products for me this year. just dropped $2k rebuilding my van
transmission, exhaust repairs etc.
I may have to get a job to support that old Voyager. Just did the wife's
taxes & she owes a small fortune to the tax man.
Gotta be careful working and pulling in a pension at the same time.

ShortWave
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Old man Herring really has a thing for Harry lately. I bet he is trying
to get some free boat rides out of it.



Funny thing is... JohnH was one of the few invited out on Harry's boat,
but got fussy & decided the Parker wasn't worth his time.
You'd think he'd be more appreciative.



I'm not doing the countertops, though. Once the cabinets are in, I've got
a countertop guy coming out to do a template from which he manufactures
the counters.



Yep.............that is the only way to go.

ShortWave
 

Don White wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
snip..
Right now I'm engaged in painting up my home office space in anticipation
of installing new cabinets for a nice work desk and a kitchenette. Did the
design on Autocad, got Home Despot to spec up what I wanted and order the
case goods.

Cabinets are supposed to arrive the last week in April. I'm doing the
electrical, carpentry and plumbing, which gives me the opportunity to
electrocute myself, cut off a few fingers with a table saw, and flood the
lower level.

I'm not doing the countertops, though. Once the cabinets are in, I've got
a countertop guy coming out to do a template from which he manufactures
the counters.



What will the counters be made of...the laminate stuff or Coran?
No major products for me this year. just dropped $2k rebuilding my van
transmission, exhaust repairs etc.
I may have to get a job to support that old Voyager. Just did the wife's
taxes & she owes a small fortune to the tax man.
Gotta be careful working and pulling in a pension at the same time.




Plastic laminate. I like Corian as a material, but I don't like the way
it looks. It looks more plastic than plastic.

ShortWave
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...




Plastic laminate. I like Corian as a material, but I don't like the way it
looks. It looks more plastic than plastic.

Our kitchen was finished with extensive use of Corian. We've already had it
professionally "refinished" twice, but it just doesn't live up to it's
advertised durability, IMO. I think next time we'll go with granite.

Eisboch

ShortWave
 

Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Plastic laminate. I like Corian as a material, but I don't like the way it
looks. It looks more plastic than plastic.

Our kitchen was finished with extensive use of Corian. We've already had it
professionally "refinished" twice, but it just doesn't live up to it's
advertised durability, IMO. I think next time we'll go with granite.

Eisboch




I went with formica for my office area cabinet tops. If you remember
what it is, it can be durable enough for a desktop or a kitchen
countertop. At some point, we're going to redo the main kitchen
countertops in granite.

ShortWave
 

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:12:24 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
Old man Herring really has a thing for Harry lately. I bet he is trying
to get some free boat rides out of it.



Funny thing is... JohnH was one of the few invited out on Harry's boat, but
got fussy & decided the Parker wasn't worth his time.
You'd think he'd be more appreciative.




Herring is an a**hole. That's why he lives in my bozo bin with the rest
of the a**holes.

A friend took delivery of his new boat today, and I went along to help
him with docking and to splice up some lines for his slip. The sun was
out for a little while, and though it was cool, it wasn't chilly. We
went out on the Bay for about 45 minutes and saw a few hard cases
fishing. For what I don't know.

Right now I'm engaged in painting up my home office space in
anticipation of installing new cabinets for a nice work desk and a
kitchenette. Did the design on Autocad, got Home Despot to spec up what
I wanted and order the case goods.

Cabinets are supposed to arrive the last week in April. I'm doing the
electrical, carpentry and plumbing, which gives me the opportunity to
electrocute myself, cut off a few fingers with a table saw, and flood
the lower level.

I'm not doing the countertops, though. Once the cabinets are in, I've
got a countertop guy coming out to do a template from which he
manufactures the counters.


There, Don, what did I tell you?

Harry, you're such a neat guy that being called a name by you is a distinct
honor.

Hope you and Jimmy enjoy your countertop discussion.

PS. Those fishing in the bay are doing so for stripers, as anyone who
ventures into the bay would know.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

ShortWave
 

Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
snip..
Right now I'm engaged in painting up my home office space in
anticipation of installing new cabinets for a nice work desk and a
kitchenette. Did the design on Autocad, got Home Despot to spec up
what I wanted and order the case goods.

Cabinets are supposed to arrive the last week in April. I'm doing the
electrical, carpentry and plumbing, which gives me the opportunity to
electrocute myself, cut off a few fingers with a table saw, and flood
the lower level.

I'm not doing the countertops, though. Once the cabinets are in, I've
got a countertop guy coming out to do a template from which he
manufactures the counters.



What will the counters be made of...the laminate stuff or Coran?
No major products for me this year. just dropped $2k rebuilding my van
transmission, exhaust repairs etc.
I may have to get a job to support that old Voyager. Just did the
wife's taxes & she owes a small fortune to the tax man.
Gotta be careful working and pulling in a pension at the same time.



Plastic laminate. I like Corian as a material, but I don't like the way
it looks. It looks more plastic than plastic.

It's trophy season, 28" minimum.

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On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:25:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 08:09:40 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


I am heading out to Costco this morning to buy a bottle of the stuff. After
taking it for a month or so I will report back to let you know if the joint
pains went away again.

Whatever floats your boat.

Much more of an answer than was deserved!
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

ShortWave
 

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 07:16:12 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I think next time we'll go with granite.

We did granite 3 years ago and it looks great. The old house up north
had corian and it was difficult to maintain the appearance.

ShortWave
 

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:33:48 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 07:16:12 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I think next time we'll go with granite.

We did granite 3 years ago and it looks great. The old house up north
had corian and it was difficult to maintain the appearance.


Our kitchen countertops are granite. It's really nice to take
something off the stovetop or out of the oven, and be able to place it
directly on the countertop. No worries about discoloration or
burning.