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John H. March 31st 07 11:35 PM

Do I need to start over on my lawn according to Doug Kanter aka JoeSpareBedroom
 
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:56:43 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 15:31:48 -0400, mm penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:11:30 -0400, mm
wrote:


Most lawn chemical companies hire high school children to apply
chemicals.
Really? High school children?

I heard on the news tonight that one drugstore chain hires high school
children as assistants to dispense prescription drugs.


One more thing, the girl they interviewed was 16 years old.


BFD.... so was my wife, when we started dating. I used to pick her up
after work at the pharmacy.

By the age of 16, both of us were expected to operate farm machinery,
drive large tractors and trucks, and operate other industrial
equipment as our parents and relatives deemed necessary.

I say again:

"Now, we don't expect anything of our kids and they are working hard
to live up to our expectations......"

We had A LOT of fun as kids, but we knew when it was time to act
serious and "grown up." The "dumbing down of America" started when we
didn't expect anything of our kids and they began to work hard to live
up to our expectations......"

What have you done today to make a kid more responsible?


Called my daughter to tell her she still owed me $215 for boat storage! But
she's 39.
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

JoeSpareBedroom April 1st 07 12:15 AM

Do I need to start over on my lawn according to Doug Kanter aka JoeSpareBedroom
 
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:30:33 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:

On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:19:54 GMT, Charlie Morgan wrote:

On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:53:55 -0500, Lar wrote:

Charlie Morgan wrote:




In Connecticut, you can't be employed to apply pesticides or
herbicides under
the age of 18. I realize YOU were probably much older than that when
and if you
finished High School, but most kids are about 17 when they graduate.

CWM

I would guess that would be the same in most states, but they probably
do allow under aged "helpers", not licensed to apply the pesticides, but
there to help keep the hoses untangled, get tools when needed, etc.
And I can see where Billy Bob SR. of BB's Bug Control would let Billy
Bob Jr actually do the application especially if he had been helping
Pops since he was 12.

Lar

Nope. You can't be employed in that field younger than 18. Under 18 can't
work
at anything that is considered "hazardous'. That includes operating most
manufacturing machinerey as well.


Except for farm jobs.


I am not current on this subject, but I would bet that "farm jobs" have
some
restrictions as to what things someone can do if under 18. Even in Fast
Food
jobs, those under 18 can't perform certain functions due to safety issues.

Farms, and underage family members working on the family farm is a
"special"
category.


Same with restaurants.



Don White April 1st 07 12:49 AM

Do I need to start over on my lawn according to Doug Kanter aka JoeSpareBedroom
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

Even before High School I spent *a couple years* working in a fish plant.
I picked about 21 worms out of one codfish filet as my personal best.
Just after high school I had my best teen job as a maintenance worker in a
popular local park.


Yikes...that should read... *a couple of summers*.





Tim April 1st 07 02:07 AM

Do I need to start over on my lawn according to Doug Kanter aka JoeSpareBedroom
 
On Mar 31, 6:49 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

...



Even before High School I spent *a couple years* working in a fish plant.
I picked about 21 worms out of one codfish filet as my personal best.
Just after high school I had my best teen job as a maintenance worker in a
popular local park.


Yikes...that should read... *a couple of summers*.



At a High school age? I imagine it DID seem like a "couple of years"


BAR April 1st 07 02:39 AM

Do I need to start over on my lawn according to Doug Kanter akaJoeSpareBedroom
 
Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:30:33 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:19:54 GMT, Charlie Morgan wrote:

On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:53:55 -0500, Lar wrote:

Charlie Morgan wrote:


In Connecticut, you can't be employed to apply pesticides or herbicides under
the age of 18. I realize YOU were probably much older than that when and if you
finished High School, but most kids are about 17 when they graduate.

CWM
I would guess that would be the same in most states, but they probably
do allow under aged "helpers", not licensed to apply the pesticides, but
there to help keep the hoses untangled, get tools when needed, etc.
And I can see where Billy Bob SR. of BB's Bug Control would let Billy
Bob Jr actually do the application especially if he had been helping
Pops since he was 12.

Lar
Nope. You can't be employed in that field younger than 18. Under 18 can't work
at anything that is considered "hazardous'. That includes operating most
manufacturing machinerey as well.

Except for farm jobs.


I am not current on this subject, but I would bet that "farm jobs" have some
restrictions as to what things someone can do if under 18. Even in Fast Food
jobs, those under 18 can't perform certain functions due to safety issues.

Farms, and underage family members working on the family farm is a "special"
category.


When I was 16 and working at McDonald's, which was 30 years ago there
wasn't a job in the place I didn't do. The most dangerous activities
were working the grill, 235*F and 350*F, and changing the CO2 tanks.


BAR April 1st 07 05:02 PM

Do I need to start over on my lawn according to Doug Kanter akaJoeSpareBedroom
 
Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:39:08 -0400, BAR wrote:

Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:30:33 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:19:54 GMT, Charlie Morgan wrote:

On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:53:55 -0500, Lar wrote:

Charlie Morgan wrote:

In Connecticut, you can't be employed to apply pesticides or herbicides under
the age of 18. I realize YOU were probably much older than that when and if you
finished High School, but most kids are about 17 when they graduate.

CWM
I would guess that would be the same in most states, but they probably
do allow under aged "helpers", not licensed to apply the pesticides, but
there to help keep the hoses untangled, get tools when needed, etc.
And I can see where Billy Bob SR. of BB's Bug Control would let Billy
Bob Jr actually do the application especially if he had been helping
Pops since he was 12.

Lar
Nope. You can't be employed in that field younger than 18. Under 18 can't work
at anything that is considered "hazardous'. That includes operating most
manufacturing machinerey as well.
Except for farm jobs.
I am not current on this subject, but I would bet that "farm jobs" have some
restrictions as to what things someone can do if under 18. Even in Fast Food
jobs, those under 18 can't perform certain functions due to safety issues.

Farms, and underage family members working on the family farm is a "special"
category.

When I was 16 and working at McDonald's, which was 30 years ago there
wasn't a job in the place I didn't do. The most dangerous activities
were working the grill, 235*F and 350*F, and changing the CO2 tanks.


I said "certain jobs" in fast foods. McDonalds may not have any of those jobs,
as they ship all their frozen food in from factories. Under 18 in Connecticut
cannot operate things like a french fry cutter and a meat slicer.

CWM


The most dangerous part about working at any fast food place is when
someone does a wet mop and leaves a bit too much wet on the floor.

skunker May 29th 07 12:00 AM

Do I need to start over on my lawn according to Doug Kanter aka JoeSpareBedroom
 
Hey everyone I wanted to report on my backyard's progress since I last
posted my message. Almost two months later, my backyard has
DRAMATICALLY improved. Now, get this, I spent 0 dollars and check out
the before and after pictures:

Before (March 31):
http://www.ogmda.com/temp/lawn/backyard1.jpg

Today (May 28):
http://www.ogmda.com/temp/lawn/by2.jpg

I must admit that Mother Nature is proabbly responsible for the
dramatic turn around. We've ben getting about 2 inches of rain per
week for the last few weeks and it has been cooler than usual. Also, I
did the following to my yard: 1.) Got a soil test done and saw that I
only needed to add nitrate. Luckily, my neighbor had some and I was
able to save money. 2.) I hand pulled all the weeds myself--and after
two weeks of doing this, I no longer needed to do this as the grass
was starting to take over and crowd them out. 3.) I never watered. The
rain did it for me. 4.) I laid mulch on the lawn's bare spots 5.) I
built a bird house for a bird that specializes in eating the kind of
bugs I had in my grass. 6.) I cut the grass with a minimum height of 2
1/2" inches for my grass type.

That's about it. As you can see, I did not need to resod. However, my
frontyard is going a little slower and I am probably gonna have to
resod some parts of it.

Thanks for all the tips.


HK May 29th 07 12:19 AM

Do I need to start over on my lawn according to Doug Kanter akaJoeSpareBedroom
 
skunker wrote:
Hey everyone I wanted to report on my backyard's progress since I last
posted my message. Almost two months later, my backyard has
DRAMATICALLY improved. Now, get this, I spent 0 dollars and check out
the before and after pictures:

Before (March 31):
http://www.ogmda.com/temp/lawn/backyard1.jpg

Today (May 28):
http://www.ogmda.com/temp/lawn/by2.jpg

I must admit that Mother Nature is proabbly responsible for the
dramatic turn around. We've ben getting about 2 inches of rain per
week for the last few weeks and it has been cooler than usual. Also, I
did the following to my yard: 1.) Got a soil test done and saw that I
only needed to add nitrate. Luckily, my neighbor had some and I was
able to save money. 2.) I hand pulled all the weeds myself--and after
two weeks of doing this, I no longer needed to do this as the grass
was starting to take over and crowd them out. 3.) I never watered. The
rain did it for me. 4.) I laid mulch on the lawn's bare spots 5.) I
built a bird house for a bird that specializes in eating the kind of
bugs I had in my grass. 6.) I cut the grass with a minimum height of 2
1/2" inches for my grass type.

That's about it. As you can see, I did not need to resod. However, my
frontyard is going a little slower and I am probably gonna have to
resod some parts of it.

Thanks for all the tips.



Looks like...Florida.

Dave May 29th 07 03:55 AM

Do I need to start over on my lawn according to Doug Kanter aka JoeSpareBedroom
 
"skunker" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hey everyone I wanted to report on my backyard's progress since I last
posted my message. Almost two months later, my backyard has
DRAMATICALLY improved. Now, get this, I spent 0 dollars and check out
the before and after pictures:

Before (March 31):
http://www.ogmda.com/temp/lawn/backyard1.jpg

Today (May 28):
http://www.ogmda.com/temp/lawn/by2.jpg

I must admit that Mother Nature is proabbly responsible for the
dramatic turn around. We've ben getting about 2 inches of rain per
week for the last few weeks and it has been cooler than usual. Also, I
did the following to my yard: 1.) Got a soil test done and saw that I
only needed to add nitrate. Luckily, my neighbor had some and I was
able to save money. 2.) I hand pulled all the weeds myself--and after
two weeks of doing this, I no longer needed to do this as the grass
was starting to take over and crowd them out. 3.) I never watered. The
rain did it for me. 4.) I laid mulch on the lawn's bare spots 5.) I
built a bird house for a bird that specializes in eating the kind of
bugs I had in my grass. 6.) I cut the grass with a minimum height of 2
1/2" inches for my grass type.

That's about it. As you can see, I did not need to resod. However, my
frontyard is going a little slower and I am probably gonna have to
resod some parts of it.

Thanks for all the tips.


My opinion is your area is probably Texas. Or something inline with central
USA. All have been getting an unusual amount of rainfall. SE USA is
definitely on its way to a drought.

All my St. Augustine was in the condition in the first photo last
summer/autumn. Most of it has returned as in your second photo. Same fix.
Mother nature's cooler temps, overcast even when not raining preventing
dryup of the upper soil surface, and regular rainfall.
Dave



skunker May 29th 07 02:18 PM

Do I need to start over on my lawn according to Doug Kanter aka JoeSpareBedroom
 
On May 28, 9:55 pm, "Dave" wrote:
"skunker" wrote in message

oups.com...





Hey everyone I wanted to report on my backyard's progress since I last
posted my message. Almost two months later, my backyard has
DRAMATICALLY improved. Now, get this, I spent 0 dollars and check out
the before and after pictures:


Before (March 31):
http://www.ogmda.com/temp/lawn/backyard1.jpg


Today (May 28):
http://www.ogmda.com/temp/lawn/by2.jpg


I must admit that Mother Nature is proabbly responsible for the
dramatic turn around. We've ben getting about 2 inches of rain per
week for the last few weeks and it has been cooler than usual. Also, I
did the following to my yard: 1.) Got a soil test done and saw that I
only needed to add nitrate. Luckily, my neighbor had some and I was
able to save money. 2.) I hand pulled all the weeds myself--and after
two weeks of doing this, I no longer needed to do this as the grass
was starting to take over and crowd them out. 3.) I never watered. The
rain did it for me. 4.) I laid mulch on the lawn's bare spots 5.) I
built a bird house for a bird that specializes in eating the kind of
bugs I had in my grass. 6.) I cut the grass with a minimum height of 2
1/2" inches for my grass type.


That's about it. As you can see, I did not need to resod. However, my
frontyard is going a little slower and I am probably gonna have to
resod some parts of it.


Thanks for all the tips.


My opinion is your area is probably Texas. Or something inline with central
USA. All have been getting an unusual amount of rainfall. SE USA is
definitely on its way to a drought.

All my St. Augustine was in the condition in the first photo last
summer/autumn. Most of it has returned as in your second photo. Same fix.
Mother nature's cooler temps, overcast even when not raining preventing
dryup of the upper soil surface, and regular rainfall.
Dave- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


That's exactly it. I am also located in San Antonio.



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