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Harry Krause March 28th 07 10:09 PM

Winter Boating in Upstate New York, Global Warming??
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:04:28 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

I really don't get the point of boating in a cabin.


2 rms w/bth, wtr vu



Ahh. Well, one can buy a nice condo down in Hilton Head with that, and
make a good, reliable income off ot, too.

Dan March 29th 07 01:32 AM

Winter Boating in Upstate New York, Global Warming??
 
Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 28, 9:07?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Here's how to enjoy a boat in Buffalo during the winter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC45QJOn8Go
I think I'll stick to 45 degrees and drizzling. :-)
(Talk about boats that would be affected by climate change!)
That's your year-around water temp, right?
It's a bit warmer than that in Puget Sound, varying from about 48-52
degrees during the year. Some of the inland lakes can be warm enough
for comfortable swimming.

45 degrees is a typical air temperature in November. Just like Puget
Sound, the air warms up to about 52 in the summer. :-)

52F water temp? In the summer?
Hehehehe.

Jesus. I'd sooner go bowling. Bundled up boating isn't my cup of tea.
The women wear their bikinis under parkas.


Northwestern boaters must take their lives in their hands every time
they go out.......even in mid July. 1-3 hour expected survival time
in those sort of water temperatures.

http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hypothermia.htm

No thanks.



I really don't get the point of boating in a cabin.


From the guy with a "sport cabin" on his boat. What next?

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=19

RJSmithers March 29th 07 03:00 AM

Winter Boating in Upstate New York, Global Warming??
 
Dan wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 28, 9:07?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Here's how to enjoy a boat in Buffalo during the winter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC45QJOn8Go
I think I'll stick to 45 degrees and drizzling. :-)
(Talk about boats that would be affected by climate change!)
That's your year-around water temp, right?
It's a bit warmer than that in Puget Sound, varying from about 48-52
degrees during the year. Some of the inland lakes can be warm enough
for comfortable swimming.

45 degrees is a typical air temperature in November. Just like Puget
Sound, the air warms up to about 52 in the summer. :-)

52F water temp? In the summer?
Hehehehe.

Jesus. I'd sooner go bowling. Bundled up boating isn't my cup of
tea. The women wear their bikinis under parkas.

Northwestern boaters must take their lives in their hands every time
they go out.......even in mid July. 1-3 hour expected survival time
in those sort of water temperatures.

http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hypothermia.htm

No thanks.



I really don't get the point of boating in a cabin.


From the guy with a "sport cabin" on his boat. What next?

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=19


The cabin feature was one of the reason he purchased the boat, it
probably is the reason it never used it. If you want to buy a
previously owned, rarely used Parker, it is a great deal.


Chuck Gould March 29th 07 06:26 AM

Winter Boating in Upstate New York, Global Warming??
 
On Mar 28, 10:57�am, "JimH" wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message

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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 28, 9:07?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Here's how to enjoy a boat in Buffalo during the winter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC45QJOn8Go
I think I'll stick to 45 degrees and drizzling. :-)
(Talk about boats that would be affected by climate change!)
That's your year-around water temp, right?


It's a bit warmer than that in Puget Sound, varying from about 48-52
degrees during the year. Some of the inland lakes can be warm enough
for comfortable swimming.


45 degrees is a typical air temperature in November. Just like Puget
Sound, the air warms up to about 52 in the summer. :-)


52F water temp? In the summer?
Hehehehe.


Jesus. I'd sooner go bowling. Bundled up boating isn't my cup of tea. The
women wear their bikinis under parkas.


Northwestern boaters must take their lives in their hands every time they go
out.......even in mid July. *1-3 hour expected survival time in those sort
of water temperatures.

http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hypothermia.htm

No thanks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You can be in trouble in a matter of minutes, even if you do float
around a while in your pfd before you cool off so much that your
central nervous systm shuts down. My wife has fallen overboard twice,
and while I have been able to get to her virtually immediately, the
shock of the cold water was so severe that she could barely assist in
helping to pull herself out. If I fall in, I could be screwed- she
doesn't have the strength to haul me out. She'd have to try to get me
out with the mast and boom. Sounds funny, but it's not.

A friend of mine fell into an empty slip across the finger float from
his boat.
He fell in near the head of the slip, and it was a 50-foot float. He
made the mistake of assuming he could swim the 50-feet to the end of
the float, the six feet across the float, and another couple of feet
to the end of his swim step. He was in his early 50's at the time, and
jogs 2-3 miles every day. He was so weak from the cold water that his
wife had to enlist some help to get him up onto the swimstep so he
could get out of the water.

Fall in a lot of places and your main concern is getting dry. Fall in
around here, and you need to be concerned with staying alive. Just
another day in the life of us rough, tough, iron-ass Pacific NW
boaters. Takes a special breed......(of idiots, maybe) :-)



Don White March 29th 07 06:05 PM

Winter Boating in Upstate New York, Global Warming??
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
snip...
Fall in a lot of places and your main concern is getting dry. Fall in
around here, and you need to be concerned with staying alive. Just
another day in the life of us rough, tough, iron-ass Pacific NW
boaters. Takes a special breed......(of idiots, maybe) :-)


They used to call this area 'the land of wooden boats and iron men'.




Calif Bill March 29th 07 06:41 PM

Winter Boating in Upstate New York, Global Warming??
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Mar 28, 10:57?am, "JimH" wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message

...





Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 28, 9:07?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Here's how to enjoy a boat in Buffalo during the winter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC45QJOn8Go
I think I'll stick to 45 degrees and drizzling. :-)
(Talk about boats that would be affected by climate change!)
That's your year-around water temp, right?


It's a bit warmer than that in Puget Sound, varying from about 48-52
degrees during the year. Some of the inland lakes can be warm enough
for comfortable swimming.


45 degrees is a typical air temperature in November. Just like Puget
Sound, the air warms up to about 52 in the summer. :-)


52F water temp? In the summer?
Hehehehe.


Jesus. I'd sooner go bowling. Bundled up boating isn't my cup of tea.
The
women wear their bikinis under parkas.


Northwestern boaters must take their lives in their hands every time they
go
out.......even in mid July. 1-3 hour expected survival time in those sort
of water temperatures.

http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hypothermia.htm

No thanks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You can be in trouble in a matter of minutes, even if you do float
around a while in your pfd before you cool off so much that your
central nervous systm shuts down. My wife has fallen overboard twice,
and while I have been able to get to her virtually immediately, the
shock of the cold water was so severe that she could barely assist in
helping to pull herself out. If I fall in, I could be screwed- she
doesn't have the strength to haul me out. She'd have to try to get me
out with the mast and boom. Sounds funny, but it's not.

A friend of mine fell into an empty slip across the finger float from
his boat.
He fell in near the head of the slip, and it was a 50-foot float. He
made the mistake of assuming he could swim the 50-feet to the end of
the float, the six feet across the float, and another couple of feet
to the end of his swim step. He was in his early 50's at the time, and
jogs 2-3 miles every day. He was so weak from the cold water that his
wife had to enlist some help to get him up onto the swimstep so he
could get out of the water.

Fall in a lot of places and your main concern is getting dry. Fall in
around here, and you need to be concerned with staying alive. Just
another day in the life of us rough, tough, iron-ass Pacific NW
boaters. Takes a special breed......(of idiots, maybe) :-)

Family friend a lot of years ago, jumped into SF bay to rescue his son, who
fell off the boat. Son was OK, but the cold water shock, caused heart
failure on the dad. Why I wear a Float Coat while salmon and rockcod
fishing on the big pond.




Harry Krause March 29th 07 06:50 PM

Winter Boating in Upstate New York, Global Warming??
 
Calif Bill wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Mar 28, 10:57?am, "JimH" wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message

...





Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 28, 9:07?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Here's how to enjoy a boat in Buffalo during the winter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC45QJOn8Go
I think I'll stick to 45 degrees and drizzling. :-)
(Talk about boats that would be affected by climate change!)
That's your year-around water temp, right?
It's a bit warmer than that in Puget Sound, varying from about 48-52
degrees during the year. Some of the inland lakes can be warm enough
for comfortable swimming.
45 degrees is a typical air temperature in November. Just like Puget
Sound, the air warms up to about 52 in the summer. :-)
52F water temp? In the summer?
Hehehehe.
Jesus. I'd sooner go bowling. Bundled up boating isn't my cup of tea.
The
women wear their bikinis under parkas.

Northwestern boaters must take their lives in their hands every time they
go
out.......even in mid July. 1-3 hour expected survival time in those sort
of water temperatures.

http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hypothermia.htm

No thanks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You can be in trouble in a matter of minutes, even if you do float
around a while in your pfd before you cool off so much that your
central nervous systm shuts down. My wife has fallen overboard twice,
and while I have been able to get to her virtually immediately, the
shock of the cold water was so severe that she could barely assist in
helping to pull herself out. If I fall in, I could be screwed- she
doesn't have the strength to haul me out. She'd have to try to get me
out with the mast and boom. Sounds funny, but it's not.

A friend of mine fell into an empty slip across the finger float from
his boat.
He fell in near the head of the slip, and it was a 50-foot float. He
made the mistake of assuming he could swim the 50-feet to the end of
the float, the six feet across the float, and another couple of feet
to the end of his swim step. He was in his early 50's at the time, and
jogs 2-3 miles every day. He was so weak from the cold water that his
wife had to enlist some help to get him up onto the swimstep so he
could get out of the water.

Fall in a lot of places and your main concern is getting dry. Fall in
around here, and you need to be concerned with staying alive. Just
another day in the life of us rough, tough, iron-ass Pacific NW
boaters. Takes a special breed......(of idiots, maybe) :-)

Family friend a lot of years ago, jumped into SF bay to rescue his son, who
fell off the boat. Son was OK, but the cold water shock, caused heart
failure on the dad. Why I wear a Float Coat while salmon and rockcod
fishing on the big pond.





This is proper boating atti

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...awaiibabes.jpg

Calif Bill March 29th 07 07:23 PM

Winter Boating in Upstate New York, Global Warming??
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Mar 28, 10:57?am, "JimH" wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message

...





Chuck Gould wrote:
On Mar 28, 9:07?am, Harry Krause wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Here's how to enjoy a boat in Buffalo during the winter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC45QJOn8Go
I think I'll stick to 45 degrees and drizzling. :-)
(Talk about boats that would be affected by climate change!)
That's your year-around water temp, right?
It's a bit warmer than that in Puget Sound, varying from about 48-52
degrees during the year. Some of the inland lakes can be warm enough
for comfortable swimming.
45 degrees is a typical air temperature in November. Just like Puget
Sound, the air warms up to about 52 in the summer. :-)
52F water temp? In the summer?
Hehehehe.
Jesus. I'd sooner go bowling. Bundled up boating isn't my cup of tea.
The
women wear their bikinis under parkas.
Northwestern boaters must take their lives in their hands every time
they go
out.......even in mid July. 1-3 hour expected survival time in those
sort
of water temperatures.

http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hypothermia.htm

No thanks.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You can be in trouble in a matter of minutes, even if you do float
around a while in your pfd before you cool off so much that your
central nervous systm shuts down. My wife has fallen overboard twice,
and while I have been able to get to her virtually immediately, the
shock of the cold water was so severe that she could barely assist in
helping to pull herself out. If I fall in, I could be screwed- she
doesn't have the strength to haul me out. She'd have to try to get me
out with the mast and boom. Sounds funny, but it's not.

A friend of mine fell into an empty slip across the finger float from
his boat.
He fell in near the head of the slip, and it was a 50-foot float. He
made the mistake of assuming he could swim the 50-feet to the end of
the float, the six feet across the float, and another couple of feet
to the end of his swim step. He was in his early 50's at the time, and
jogs 2-3 miles every day. He was so weak from the cold water that his
wife had to enlist some help to get him up onto the swimstep so he
could get out of the water.

Fall in a lot of places and your main concern is getting dry. Fall in
around here, and you need to be concerned with staying alive. Just
another day in the life of us rough, tough, iron-ass Pacific NW
boaters. Takes a special breed......(of idiots, maybe) :-)

Family friend a lot of years ago, jumped into SF bay to rescue his son,
who fell off the boat. Son was OK, but the cold water shock, caused
heart failure on the dad. Why I wear a Float Coat while salmon and
rockcod fishing on the big pond.





This is proper boating atti

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...awaiibabes.jpg


I'm not sure they go in the water in those outfits.



Wayne.B March 29th 07 08:34 PM

Winter Boating in Upstate New York, Global Warming??
 
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:23:36 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...awaiibabes.jpg


I'm not sure they go in the water in those outfits.


They've certainly got that tentative chilly water look about them.

Nice PFDs.



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