Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

I need to change out the throttle/shift controls on my new (old) 28'
Uniflite Mega with twin inboards. I had years of experience with a
23' single inboard lobster boat when I was younger, but none with a
twin setup. I'm leaning towards the single function dual controls,
with the two shifters to the left of the helm, and the throttles to
the right. Is this the preferred setup for most? I'd welcome all
ideas and suggestions.

Thanks,
Michael

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

"mjpierce5" wrote in message
ups.com...
I need to change out the throttle/shift controls on my new (old) 28'
Uniflite Mega with twin inboards. I had years of experience with a
23' single inboard lobster boat when I was younger, but none with a
twin setup. I'm leaning towards the single function dual controls,
with the two shifters to the left of the helm, and the throttles to
the right. Is this the preferred setup for most? I'd welcome all
ideas and suggestions.

Thanks,
Michael


I think that's the "traditional" setup and also what I prefer and am used
to.
It's nice to be able to stand backwards and operated the shifts while
docking.

Hey, I used to have a 28' Uniflite Mega also. Twin 318 engines. I enjoyed
that boat. Solid as a rock.

Eisboch

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:30:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"mjpierce5" wrote in message
oups.com...
I need to change out the throttle/shift controls on my new (old) 28'
Uniflite Mega with twin inboards. I had years of experience with a
23' single inboard lobster boat when I was younger, but none with a
twin setup. I'm leaning towards the single function dual controls,
with the two shifters to the left of the helm, and the throttles to
the right. Is this the preferred setup for most? I'd welcome all
ideas and suggestions.

Thanks,
Michael


I think that's the "traditional" setup and also what I prefer and am used
to.
It's nice to be able to stand backwards and operated the shifts while
docking.

Hey, I used to have a 28' Uniflite Mega also. Twin 318 engines. I enjoyed
that boat. Solid as a rock.

Uniflite made a really well thought boat for it's time.

Still classics.

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:30:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"mjpierce5" wrote in message
roups.com...
I need to change out the throttle/shift controls on my new (old) 28'
Uniflite Mega with twin inboards. I had years of experience with a
23' single inboard lobster boat when I was younger, but none with a
twin setup. I'm leaning towards the single function dual controls,
with the two shifters to the left of the helm, and the throttles to
the right. Is this the preferred setup for most? I'd welcome all
ideas and suggestions.

Thanks,
Michael


I think that's the "traditional" setup and also what I prefer and am used
to.
It's nice to be able to stand backwards and operated the shifts while
docking.

Hey, I used to have a 28' Uniflite Mega also. Twin 318 engines. I
enjoyed
that boat. Solid as a rock.

Uniflite made a really well thought boat for it's time.

Still classics.

Blisters and all.

Eisboch

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:43:28 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:30:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"mjpierce5" wrote in message
groups.com...
I need to change out the throttle/shift controls on my new (old) 28'
Uniflite Mega with twin inboards. I had years of experience with a
23' single inboard lobster boat when I was younger, but none with a
twin setup. I'm leaning towards the single function dual controls,
with the two shifters to the left of the helm, and the throttles to
the right. Is this the preferred setup for most? I'd welcome all
ideas and suggestions.

Thanks,
Michael


I think that's the "traditional" setup and also what I prefer and am used
to.
It's nice to be able to stand backwards and operated the shifts while
docking.

Hey, I used to have a 28' Uniflite Mega also. Twin 318 engines. I
enjoyed
that boat. Solid as a rock.

Uniflite made a really well thought boat for it's time.

Still classics.

Blisters and all.

Blisters and all.

Hey, did you sell the Navigator?

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

On Mar 25, 8:43 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:hbrc03d9lqsl70e3qd3qc6n3reic7h4flg@4ax .com...



On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:30:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"mjpierce5" wrote in message
roups.com...
I need to change out the throttle/shift controls on my new (old) 28'
Uniflite Mega with twin inboards. I had years of experience with a
23' single inboard lobster boat when I was younger, but none with a
twin setup. I'm leaning towards the single function dual controls,
with the two shifters to the left of the helm, and the throttles to
the right. Is this the preferred setup for most? I'd welcome all
ideas and suggestions.

Thanks,
Michael

I think that's the "traditional" setup and also what I prefer and am used
to.
It's nice to be able to stand backwards and operated the shifts while
docking.

Hey, I used to have a 28' Uniflite Mega also. Twin 318 engines. I
enjoyed
that boat. Solid as a rock.

Uniflite made a really well thought boat for it's time.

Still classics.

Blisters and all.

Eisboch

Yup, I've got a few of them-cosmetic- but for $3000 for a solid boat
with good engines, I can't complain!
Anyone a proponent of the dual function controls?

Thanks,
Michael

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...


Hey, did you sell the Navigator?

According to the broker, a guy in CT wants it. He has inspected it twice,
the second time with the "decision makers" (his wife and daughter). He is
trying to sell his current boat first, but told the broker to let him know
if any other offers are in the works for the Navigator and he'll buy it
before selling his boat.

I'll be honest. Now that we've had a couple of teaser spring-like days I am
starting to have second thoughts again. The Navigator is a very
comfortable, roomy and seaworthy boat. We'll see.

Eisboch

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

"mjpierce5" wrote in message
oups.com...

Yup, I've got a few of them-cosmetic- but for $3000 for a solid boat
with good engines, I can't complain!
Anyone a proponent of the dual function controls?

Thanks,
Michael



Don't be concerned about them.

My father-in-law also had an older Uniflite ... pre-blister year (1972).
He sold it back in 2002 after about 15 years of boating with it. I just
found it listed for sale again on Craigslist.

http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/boa/299839603.html

Eisboch

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

On Mar 25, 9:34 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"mjpierce5" wrote in message

oups.com...



Yup, I've got a few of them-cosmetic- but for $3000 for a solid boat
with good engines, I can't complain!
Anyone a proponent of the dual function controls?

Thanks,
Michael

Don't be concerned about them.

My father-in-law also had an older Uniflite ... pre-blister year (1972).
He sold it back in 2002 after about 15 years of boating with it. I just
found it listed for sale again on Craigslist.

http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/boa/299839603.html

Eisboch

Mine is a 77, so it is post-blister. It is a lot bigger problem in
warmer regions, (like Florida), but even then, it is still just a
cosmetic issue.
The RI craigslist has an interesting Uniflite for anyone looking for a
solid smaller fishing boat- a 23' Salty Pup.
http://providence.craigslist.org/boa/299048677.html

Michael

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:34:01 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"mjpierce5" wrote in message
roups.com...

Yup, I've got a few of them-cosmetic- but for $3000 for a solid boat
with good engines, I can't complain!
Anyone a proponent of the dual function controls?

Thanks,
Michael



Don't be concerned about them.

My father-in-law also had an older Uniflite ... pre-blister year (1972).
He sold it back in 2002 after about 15 years of boating with it. I just
found it listed for sale again on Craigslist.

http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/boa/299839603.html

That boat would be perfect for somebody I know.

Out of curiosity, what would be a "Best Offer"?

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 09:34:01 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"mjpierce5" wrote in message
groups.com...

Yup, I've got a few of them-cosmetic- but for $3000 for a solid boat
with good engines, I can't complain!
Anyone a proponent of the dual function controls?

Thanks,
Michael



Don't be concerned about them.

My father-in-law also had an older Uniflite ... pre-blister year (1972).
He sold it back in 2002 after about 15 years of boating with it. I just
found it listed for sale again on Craigslist.

http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/boa/299839603.html

That boat would be perfect for somebody I know.

Out of curiosity, what would be a "Best Offer"?


He sold it in 2002 for 5k. I don't know what the current owner is looking
for, but I'd guess about 3k or so. It had rebuilt 318's installed in
2001-2002 and had new aluminum gas tanks put in as well. It needed some
work - mostly cosmetic - and the wiring had been jury-rigged a bit over the
years. He also had one (or both ... I can't remember) of the transmissions
rebuilt as well. It was due for the engines, and shortly after he had them
done his health started going downhill. He had a mild heart attack and
that, plus the fact that he was pushing 75 years old convinced him that his
boating days were over.

I'll bet he caught many 1000's of flounder and lobsters over the years on
that boat.

Eisboch

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
. ..

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 08:30:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"mjpierce5" wrote in message
groups.com...
I need to change out the throttle/shift controls on my new (old) 28'
Uniflite Mega with twin inboards. I had years of experience with a
23' single inboard lobster boat when I was younger, but none with a
twin setup. I'm leaning towards the single function dual controls,
with the two shifters to the left of the helm, and the throttles to
the right. Is this the preferred setup for most? I'd welcome all
ideas and suggestions.

Thanks,
Michael


I think that's the "traditional" setup and also what I prefer and am used
to.
It's nice to be able to stand backwards and operated the shifts while
docking.

Hey, I used to have a 28' Uniflite Mega also. Twin 318 engines. I
enjoyed
that boat. Solid as a rock.

Uniflite made a really well thought boat for it's time.

Still classics.

Blisters and all.

Eisboch


Government mandated blisters. Was the years they made them for Viet Nam and
added a fire retardant to the resins.

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
rthlink.net...



Government mandated blisters. Was the years they made them for Viet Nam
and added a fire retardant to the resins.


Ironically, it wasn't until the mid 70's that the blisters started showing
up on recreational boats. My father-in-law's was a '72 and was a
recreational version of one of the Vietnam era patrol gunboats (except the
military ones had jet drives instead of props). The fiberglass was rough
due to minimal upkeep, but there were no blisters.

The Uniflite Mega that I had was a '78 or '79. (I forget which) It had
blisters on the topsides, but none that we ever noticed below the waterline.

Eisboch

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:49:10 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Ironically, it wasn't until the mid 70's that the blisters started showing
up on recreational boats. My father-in-law's was a '72 and was a
recreational version of one of the Vietnam era patrol gunboats (except the
military ones had jet drives instead of props). The fiberglass was rough
due to minimal upkeep, but there were no blisters.

The Uniflite Mega that I had was a '78 or '79. (I forget which) It had
blisters on the topsides, but none that we ever noticed below the waterline.

Best current theories about the mid-70s blister epidemic are that the
resin vendors changed their product formulation due to high petro
prices or that builders changed their wet out/gel coat procedures,
probably the former.

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:49:10 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Ironically, it wasn't until the mid 70's that the blisters started showing
up on recreational boats. My father-in-law's was a '72 and was a
recreational version of one of the Vietnam era patrol gunboats (except the
military ones had jet drives instead of props). The fiberglass was rough
due to minimal upkeep, but there were no blisters.

The Uniflite Mega that I had was a '78 or '79. (I forget which) It had
blisters on the topsides, but none that we ever noticed below the
waterline.

Best current theories about the mid-70s blister epidemic are that the
resin vendors changed their product formulation due to high petro
prices or that builders changed their wet out/gel coat procedures,
probably the former.


The change in resin theory is the one I believe is true. It also killed
Uniflite unfortunately.

Eisboch

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

On Mar 25, 6:51 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message

...



On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:49:10 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Ironically, it wasn't until the mid 70's that the blisters started showing
up on recreational boats. My father-in-law's was a '72 and was a
recreational version of one of the Vietnam era patrol gunboats (except the
military ones had jet drives instead of props). The fiberglass was rough
due to minimal upkeep, but there were no blisters.

The Uniflite Mega that I had was a '78 or '79. (I forget which) It had
blisters on the topsides, but none that we ever noticed below the
waterline.

Best current theories about the mid-70s blister epidemic are that the
resin vendors changed their product formulation due to high petro
prices or that builders changed their wet out/gel coat procedures,
probably the former.

The change in resin theory is the one I believe is true. It also killed
Uniflite unfortunately.

Eisboch

The blisters came with the switch in the fire retardant chemical used
in the resin formulation. Uniflites from 75 on have the problem. The
blisters result from a chemical reaction brought on from exposure to
heat- so the problem is much worse in southern Uniflites. Many
Uniflites are used in Alaska, and apparently the problem is unknown
there. The blisters are a cosmetic issue, and cause no structural
harm. Mine are fairly minimal, and none below the waterline.
Ironically, what finally did in Uniflite was a fire at their main
plant in Bellingham, Washington. The boats were fire retardant, but
the factory wasn't...

Anyway, does anyone have any more advice about setting up the shift/
throttle controls on a twin inboard? What's your preferred setup?

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

On 25 Mar 2007 17:05:52 -0700, "mjpierce5" wrote:

Anyway, does anyone have any more advice about setting up the shift/
throttle controls on a twin inboard? What's your preferred setup?

I don't have much experience with twin inboards, but I did have twin
outboards and preferred seperate left/right engine controls if that is
what you are asking.

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

To each, his own, but I prefer single lever dual controls..... it leaves
you with one hand for the wheel and one for the engine controls.

otn




"mjpierce5" wrote in news:1174822182.823819.79920
@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:

I need to change out the throttle/shift controls on my new (old) 28'
Uniflite Mega with twin inboards. I had years of experience with a
23' single inboard lobster boat when I was younger, but none with a
twin setup. I'm leaning towards the single function dual controls,
with the two shifters to the left of the helm, and the throttles to
the right. Is this the preferred setup for most? I'd welcome all
ideas and suggestions.

Thanks,
Michael

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

On 25 Mar 2007 17:05:52 -0700, "mjpierce5" wrote:

Anyway, does anyone have any more advice about setting up the shift/
throttle controls on a twin inboard? What's your preferred setup?

The classic setup on most boats is twin shift levers to port, twin
throttles to starboard. That's what I'm used to.

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

On Mar 25, 7:58 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On 25 Mar 2007 17:05:52 -0700, "mjpierce5" wrote:

Anyway, does anyone have any more advice about setting up the shift/
throttle controls on a twin inboard? What's your preferred setup?

The classic setup on most boats is twin shift levers to port, twin
throttles to starboard. That's what I'm used to.

That is what my inclination is to do, but I wanted to see what
arguments could be presented for a different setup. It currently has
the dual shift/throttle control combo. I bought a replacement console
(built to the original specs) and the big chunky dual control doesn't
fit width wise. Since it needs to be changed, I figured I'd get some
knowledgeable advice before I bought.
I have an old set of morse controls- is it possible to fit them with
the neutral lock add-on? The chrome on them is kind of beat up, but
the price (free) is good...
Thanks,
Michael

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

Hey, did you sell the Navigator?

According to the broker, a guy in CT wants it. He has inspected it twice,
the second time with the "decision makers" (his wife and daughter). He is
trying to sell his current boat first, but told the broker to let him know
if any other offers are in the works for the Navigator and he'll buy it
before selling his boat.

I'll be honest. Now that we've had a couple of teaser spring-like days I am
starting to have second thoughts again. The Navigator is a very
comfortable, roomy and seaworthy boat. We'll see.

Eisboch




I'll make an offer - done deal!

Seriously, can you just pull it off the market? Don't you have a
brokerage agreement that favors...the broker? I guess you could hold
firm on your price and hope he walks but you probably have a 90 day
contract.

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

"Dan" wrote in message
.. .


I'll make an offer - done deal!

Seriously, can you just pull it off the market? Don't you have a
brokerage agreement that favors...the broker? I guess you could hold firm
on your price and hope he walks but you probably have a 90 day contract.

The terms of the broker's contract allow you to take it off the market at
any time, however if you sell it within a certain time frame afterward (I
think it's either 6 months or a year) to a party that the broker brought to
the table through his sales/advertising efforts, you are obligated to pay
him a commission. Fair enough.

Now, I am thinking of selling the Scout 202 Sportsfish but I'll probably do
that without using a broker. It's been sitting unused for quite a while but
only has something like 24 hours on the engine meter. I held on to it in
case I got the itch to do some small boat fishing with a trailerable boat,
but I don't think it's going to happen. Too many other activities right
now.

It will be a great deal for someone who wants to do a little cleanup,
probably install a couple of new batteries and do some basic maintenance. I
listed it over on rec.boats.marketplace the other day and have already
received a couple of emails from interested parties. Problem is, they want
to know "why so cheap?"

Eisboch

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 02:56:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Dan" wrote in message
. ..


I'll make an offer - done deal!

Seriously, can you just pull it off the market? Don't you have a
brokerage agreement that favors...the broker? I guess you could hold firm
on your price and hope he walks but you probably have a 90 day contract.

The terms of the broker's contract allow you to take it off the market at
any time, however if you sell it within a certain time frame afterward (I
think it's either 6 months or a year) to a party that the broker brought to
the table through his sales/advertising efforts, you are obligated to pay
him a commission. Fair enough.

Now, I am thinking of selling the Scout 202 Sportsfish but I'll probably do
that without using a broker. It's been sitting unused for quite a while but
only has something like 24 hours on the engine meter. I held on to it in
case I got the itch to do some small boat fishing with a trailerable boat,
but I don't think it's going to happen. Too many other activities right
now.

It will be a great deal for someone who wants to do a little cleanup,
probably install a couple of new batteries and do some basic maintenance. I
listed it over on rec.boats.marketplace the other day and have already
received a couple of emails from interested parties. Problem is, they want
to know "why so cheap?"

I'm curious if any of them are serious.

Last time I posted on rec.boats.marketplace for the Halman I had
around 100 inquiries, no takers.

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
. ..

"Dan" wrote in message
.. .


I'll make an offer - done deal!

Seriously, can you just pull it off the market? Don't you have a
brokerage agreement that favors...the broker? I guess you could hold
firm on your price and hope he walks but you probably have a 90 day
contract.

The terms of the broker's contract allow you to take it off the market at
any time, however if you sell it within a certain time frame afterward (I
think it's either 6 months or a year) to a party that the broker brought
to the table through his sales/advertising efforts, you are obligated to
pay him a commission. Fair enough.

Now, I am thinking of selling the Scout 202 Sportsfish but I'll probably
do that without using a broker. It's been sitting unused for quite a
while but only has something like 24 hours on the engine meter. I held on
to it in case I got the itch to do some small boat fishing with a
trailerable boat, but I don't think it's going to happen. Too many other
activities right now.

It will be a great deal for someone who wants to do a little cleanup,
probably install a couple of new batteries and do some basic maintenance.
I listed it over on rec.boats.marketplace the other day and have already
received a couple of emails from interested parties. Problem is, they
want to know "why so cheap?"

Eisboch

Sure wish I had a way to get that beauty to Florida.

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 02:56:51 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Dan" wrote in message
.. .

I'll make an offer - done deal!

Seriously, can you just pull it off the market? Don't you have a
brokerage agreement that favors...the broker? I guess you could hold firm
on your price and hope he walks but you probably have a 90 day contract.
The terms of the broker's contract allow you to take it off the market at
any time, however if you sell it within a certain time frame afterward (I
think it's either 6 months or a year) to a party that the broker brought to
the table through his sales/advertising efforts, you are obligated to pay
him a commission. Fair enough.

Now, I am thinking of selling the Scout 202 Sportsfish but I'll probably do
that without using a broker. It's been sitting unused for quite a while but
only has something like 24 hours on the engine meter. I held on to it in
case I got the itch to do some small boat fishing with a trailerable boat,
but I don't think it's going to happen. Too many other activities right
now.

It will be a great deal for someone who wants to do a little cleanup,
probably install a couple of new batteries and do some basic maintenance. I
listed it over on rec.boats.marketplace the other day and have already
received a couple of emails from interested parties. Problem is, they want
to know "why so cheap?"

I'm curious if any of them are serious.

Last time I posted on rec.boats.marketplace for the Halman I had
around 100 inquiries, no takers.


It's sort of like eBay. Everyone wants a steal. I've always sold boats
by letting a few people know I have one for sale, and I've always had
dealers that were helpful one way or another. I had two offers for Yo-Ho
over the winter. One guy got transferred to the flatlands unexpectedly,
and the other's bank turned him down. And I don't have it listed
anywhere, nor have I taken out an ad.

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

Eisboch wrote:
"Dan" wrote in message
.. .

I'll make an offer - done deal!

Seriously, can you just pull it off the market? Don't you have a
brokerage agreement that favors...the broker? I guess you could hold firm
on your price and hope he walks but you probably have a 90 day contract.

The terms of the broker's contract allow you to take it off the market at
any time, however if you sell it within a certain time frame afterward (I
think it's either 6 months or a year) to a party that the broker brought to
the table through his sales/advertising efforts, you are obligated to pay
him a commission. Fair enough.

Now, I am thinking of selling the Scout 202 Sportsfish but I'll probably do
that without using a broker. It's been sitting unused for quite a while but
only has something like 24 hours on the engine meter. I held on to it in
case I got the itch to do some small boat fishing with a trailerable boat,
but I don't think it's going to happen. Too many other activities right
now.

It will be a great deal for someone who wants to do a little cleanup,
probably install a couple of new batteries and do some basic maintenance. I
listed it over on rec.boats.marketplace the other day and have already
received a couple of emails from interested parties. Problem is, they want
to know "why so cheap?"

Eisboch




I advertised a walleye boat for a friend in a rural area who is limited
to dialup with craigslist.com. I was very surprised by the number of
serious inquiries. The buyer drove almost 90 miles to close the deal
after reviewing a dozen pictures. He got his asking price but it was a
very fair number to start.

The problem with your price on the Scout is that the motor is worth
nearly that much by itself.

Dan

Best control setup for twin inboards?
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
. ..

"mjpierce5" wrote in message
ups.com...
I need to change out the throttle/shift controls on my new (old) 28'
Uniflite Mega with twin inboards. I had years of experience with a
23' single inboard lobster boat when I was younger, but none with a
twin setup. I'm leaning towards the single function dual controls,
with the two shifters to the left of the helm, and the throttles to
the right. Is this the preferred setup for most? I'd welcome all
ideas and suggestions.

Thanks,
Michael


I think that's the "traditional" setup and also what I prefer and am used
to.
It's nice to be able to stand backwards and operated the shifts while
docking.

That is how I docked our 32 footer with twin I/O's. stern in with the finger
slip on my port when doing so. After centering my wheel and at the correct
approach point I would keep starboard in reverse idle and use the port
engine to bring her around or to straighten her (shifting from idle reverse
and idle forward)....a one hand operation. With I/O's the controls are
all in one on the starboard side of the wheel.