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Chuck Gould March 14th 07 11:34 PM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 
Here's a bit of trivia that might be of interest to Pacific NW
boaters, and to others outside the area as well. Recreational boaters
are being counted by a variety of scientific and environmental
organizations, and this piece illustrates just how they are going
about it in this area:

Quantification of Peak Season Marine Vessel Traffic Pressure in the
San Juan Islands

Jeffrey Dismukes, San Juan County

Jonathan Riley, Western Washington University

The marine waters surrounding the San Juan Islands appear to
communicate high levels of vessel traffic, especially during the sunny
summer days of peak vacation season. This perception is corroborated
by several factors: 1. international commercial shipping lanes serving
two major North American ports; 2. Alaskan Marine Highway, Washington
State and several international ferry routes; 3. a plentiful sport and
commercial fishery with 4 major game fish providing year round
opportunities; 4. an extremely popular yachting and pleasure cruising
environment featuring several nature parks accessible only by water;
and, 5. Orca pods and numerous sea-foul rookeries providing very
appealing on-water tourist attractions. However, prior to this study,
there have been no published attempts to quantify vessel pressures in
the San Juan Islands. In this pilot study we develop methods for
deriving statistics on vessel traffic utilizing spotters and digital
photography from fixed wing over-flights during the peak tourist
season (August-September 2006). Samples were stratified by weekend/
holiday days and week days. Data was collected for 4 week days and 9
weekend/holiday days. Results indicate average total of 953 vessels
on water at any given daylight time for weekend/holiday days and 659
for week days. Vessels were also identified by general type as:
power, sail, commercial fishing, cargo and ferry. Rough location
markers were plotted in a GIS yielding relative concentration
gradients.


JimH March 14th 07 11:54 PM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
Here's a bit of trivia that might be of interest to Pacific NW
boaters, and to others outside the area as well. Recreational boaters
are being counted by a variety of scientific and environmental
organizations, and this piece illustrates just how they are going
about it in this area:

Quantification of Peak Season Marine Vessel Traffic Pressure in the
San Juan Islands


Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?



Short Wave Sportfishing March 15th 07 12:02 AM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:54:20 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
Here's a bit of trivia that might be of interest to Pacific NW
boaters, and to others outside the area as well. Recreational boaters
are being counted by a variety of scientific and environmental
organizations, and this piece illustrates just how they are going
about it in this area:

Quantification of Peak Season Marine Vessel Traffic Pressure in the
San Juan Islands


Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?


I didn't know that.

Did you know that 100% of all people who died last year are still
dead?

JR North March 15th 07 12:13 AM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summerdays
 
So nice that with the 360° obstructed view anywhere within the Island
set, you can't see 95% of them at any given time. Even on the 3-4 sunny
weekend days per year in the San Juans, it appears virtually and
pleasingly deserted, except for the rush from Friday Harbor back to
Puget Sound Sunday evening.
JR

Chuck Gould wrote:
Here's a bit of trivia that might be of interest to Pacific NW
boaters, and to others outside the area as well. Recreational boaters
are being counted by a variety of scientific and environmental
organizations, and this piece illustrates just how they are going
about it in this area:

Quantification of Peak Season Marine Vessel Traffic Pressure in the
San Juan Islands

Jeffrey Dismukes, San Juan County

Jonathan Riley, Western Washington University

The marine waters surrounding the San Juan Islands appear to
communicate high levels of vessel traffic, especially during the sunny
summer days of peak vacation season. This perception is corroborated
by several factors: 1. international commercial shipping lanes serving
two major North American ports; 2. Alaskan Marine Highway, Washington
State and several international ferry routes; 3. a plentiful sport and
commercial fishery with 4 major game fish providing year round
opportunities; 4. an extremely popular yachting and pleasure cruising
environment featuring several nature parks accessible only by water;
and, 5. Orca pods and numerous sea-foul rookeries providing very
appealing on-water tourist attractions. However, prior to this study,
there have been no published attempts to quantify vessel pressures in
the San Juan Islands. In this pilot study we develop methods for
deriving statistics on vessel traffic utilizing spotters and digital
photography from fixed wing over-flights during the peak tourist
season (August-September 2006). Samples were stratified by weekend/
holiday days and week days. Data was collected for 4 week days and 9
weekend/holiday days. Results indicate average total of 953 vessels
on water at any given daylight time for weekend/holiday days and 659
for week days. Vessels were also identified by general type as:
power, sail, commercial fishing, cargo and ferry. Rough location
markers were plotted in a GIS yielding relative concentration
gradients.



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Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth

Chuck Gould March 15th 07 12:15 AM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 
On Mar 14, 4:54?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

ups.com...

Here's a bit of trivia that might be of interest to Pacific NW
boaters, and to others outside the area as well. Recreational boaters
are being counted by a variety of scientific and environmental
organizations, and this piece illustrates just how they are going
about it in this area:


Quantification of Peak Season Marine Vessel Traffic Pressure in the
San Juan Islands


Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?


???????

Sorry, JimH. I guess I should have posted something about buying a
new lawnmower. :-)


JimH March 15th 07 12:15 AM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:54:20 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
roups.com...
Here's a bit of trivia that might be of interest to Pacific NW
boaters, and to others outside the area as well. Recreational boaters
are being counted by a variety of scientific and environmental
organizations, and this piece illustrates just how they are going
about it in this area:

Quantification of Peak Season Marine Vessel Traffic Pressure in the
San Juan Islands


Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?


I didn't know that.

Did you know that 100% of all people who died last year are still
dead?



Another useless fact................statatistics repeated often enough, even
when false, will eventually cause many people to believe them.

I have several sources that show dead people are not really
dead.............proving you not only a liar but a human hater.



Chuck Gould March 15th 07 12:24 AM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 
On Mar 14, 5:13�pm, JR North wrote:
So nice that with the 360° obstructed view anywhere within the Island
set, you can't see 95% of them at any given time. Even on the 3-4 sunny
weekend days per year in the San Juans, it appears virtually and
pleasingly deserted, except for the rush from Friday Harbor back to
Puget Sound Sunday evening.
JR





Chuck Gould wrote:
Here's a bit of trivia that might be of interest to Pacific NW
boaters, and to others outside the area as well. Recreational boaters
are being counted by a variety of scientific and environmental
organizations, and this piece illustrates just how they are going
about it in this area:


Quantification of Peak Season Marine Vessel Traffic Pressure in the
San Juan Islands


Jeffrey Dismukes, San Juan County


Jonathan Riley, Western Washington University


The marine waters surrounding the San Juan Islands appear to
communicate high levels of vessel traffic, especially during the sunny
summer days of peak vacation season. *This perception is corroborated
by several factors: 1. international commercial shipping lanes serving
two major North American ports; 2. Alaskan Marine Highway, Washington
State and several international ferry routes; 3. a plentiful sport and
commercial fishery with 4 major game fish providing year round
opportunities; 4. an extremely popular yachting and pleasure cruising
environment featuring several nature parks accessible only by water;
and, 5. Orca pods and numerous sea-foul rookeries providing very
appealing on-water tourist attractions. *However, prior to this study,
there have been no published attempts to quantify vessel pressures in
the San Juan Islands. In this pilot study we develop methods for
deriving statistics on vessel traffic utilizing spotters and digital
photography from fixed wing over-flights during the peak tourist
season (August-September 2006). *Samples were stratified by weekend/
holiday days and week days. *Data was collected for 4 week days and 9
weekend/holiday days. *Results indicate average total of 953 vessels
on water at any given daylight time for weekend/holiday days and 659
for week days. *Vessels were also identified by general type as:
power, sail, commercial fishing, cargo and ferry. *Rough location
markers were plotted in a GIS yielding relative concentration
gradients.


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That's what's surprising to me about the results of this study. I
wonder how they define "on the water"? Tied up at Friday Harbor
Marina, Roche Harbor, etc? If there are 659 vessels underway on any
given summer weekday, we'd have some pretty ridiculous crowding.
Anything more than a couple of boats per square mile borders on
congested, IMO. I'd have to get out a chart and measure, but I'd bet
the entire San Juan archipelago isn't over 400-500 square miles, and
that *includes* the landmasses. 953 vessels in the remaining couple of
hundred square miles of navigable waters would seem like a lot more
boats than encountered there, even on a busy summer weekend.


JimH March 15th 07 12:32 AM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Mar 14, 4:54?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

ups.com...

Here's a bit of trivia that might be of interest to Pacific NW
boaters, and to others outside the area as well. Recreational boaters
are being counted by a variety of scientific and environmental
organizations, and this piece illustrates just how they are going
about it in this area:


Quantification of Peak Season Marine Vessel Traffic Pressure in the
San Juan Islands


Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?


???????

Sorry, JimH. I guess I should have posted something about buying a
new lawnmower. :-)


*Lawn Tractor*.............not lawnmower. But if you actually read the
information in the link I provided about the new lawn tractor I purchased
you would have understood that. One can also break it down to a matter of
reading compression..........but I will not go there as you seem to be a
pretty smart sailor with minimal experience of living on real land.

Enjoy your evening Chuck.

PS I continue to appreciate reading the monthly issues of your magazine.
Keep them coming. ;-)



RJSmithers March 15th 07 02:47 AM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summerdays
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:54:20 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
Here's a bit of trivia that might be of interest to Pacific NW
boaters, and to others outside the area as well. Recreational boaters
are being counted by a variety of scientific and environmental
organizations, and this piece illustrates just how they are going
about it in this area:

Quantification of Peak Season Marine Vessel Traffic Pressure in the
San Juan Islands

Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?


I didn't know that.

Did you know that 100% of all people who died last year are still
dead?


If a plane traveling from Mexico City to LA, crashes on the Mexico/US
border, will the survivors be buried in Mexico or the US?


Calif Bill March 15th 07 04:07 AM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:54:20 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
roups.com...
Here's a bit of trivia that might be of interest to Pacific NW
boaters, and to others outside the area as well. Recreational boaters
are being counted by a variety of scientific and environmental
organizations, and this piece illustrates just how they are going
about it in this area:

Quantification of Peak Season Marine Vessel Traffic Pressure in the
San Juan Islands


Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?


I didn't know that.

Did you know that 100% of all people who died last year are still
dead?


Cite?



Short Wave Sportfishing March 15th 07 10:13 AM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:47:12 -0400, RJSmithers
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:54:20 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
Here's a bit of trivia that might be of interest to Pacific NW
boaters, and to others outside the area as well. Recreational boaters
are being counted by a variety of scientific and environmental
organizations, and this piece illustrates just how they are going
about it in this area:

Quantification of Peak Season Marine Vessel Traffic Pressure in the
San Juan Islands
Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?


I didn't know that.

Did you know that 100% of all people who died last year are still
dead?


If a plane traveling from Mexico City to LA, crashes on the Mexico/US
border, will the survivors be buried in Mexico or the US?


You do't bury survivors dumbass. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing March 15th 07 10:29 AM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:15:59 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:54:20 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
groups.com...
Here's a bit of trivia that might be of interest to Pacific NW
boaters, and to others outside the area as well. Recreational boaters
are being counted by a variety of scientific and environmental
organizations, and this piece illustrates just how they are going
about it in this area:

Quantification of Peak Season Marine Vessel Traffic Pressure in the
San Juan Islands

Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?


I didn't know that.

Did you know that 100% of all people who died last year are still
dead?


Another useless fact................statatistics repeated often enough, even
when false, will eventually cause many people to believe them.

I have several sources that show dead people are not really
dead.............proving you not only a liar but a human hater.


Of course you do.

Tom Francis March 15th 07 10:30 AM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:07:56 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:54:20 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
groups.com...
Here's a bit of trivia that might be of interest to Pacific NW
boaters, and to others outside the area as well. Recreational boaters
are being counted by a variety of scientific and environmental
organizations, and this piece illustrates just how they are going
about it in this area:

Quantification of Peak Season Marine Vessel Traffic Pressure in the
San Juan Islands

Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?


I didn't know that.

Did you know that 100% of all people who died last year are still
dead?


Cite?


Pizza?

RJSmithers March 15th 07 10:42 AM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summerdays
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:47:12 -0400, RJSmithers
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:54:20 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
Here's a bit of trivia that might be of interest to Pacific NW
boaters, and to others outside the area as well. Recreational boaters
are being counted by a variety of scientific and environmental
organizations, and this piece illustrates just how they are going
about it in this area:

Quantification of Peak Season Marine Vessel Traffic Pressure in the
San Juan Islands
Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?
I didn't know that.

Did you know that 100% of all people who died last year are still
dead?

If a plane traveling from Mexico City to LA, crashes on the Mexico/US
border, will the survivors be buried in Mexico or the US?


You do't bury survivors dumbass. :)


Why didn't you tell me this earlier?



JimH March 15th 07 01:20 PM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On 14 Mar 2007 17:15:57 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:54?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?


???????

Sorry, JimH. I guess I should have posted something about buying a
new lawnmower. :-)


Or just report local temperature. That's always thought-provoking.

--Vic


Yes Vic...........as we all know the weather has absolutely nothing to do
with boating.



JimH March 15th 07 01:25 PM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On 14 Mar 2007 17:15:57 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:54?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?


???????

Sorry, JimH. I guess I should have posted something about buying a
new lawnmower. :-)


Or just report local temperature. That's always thought-provoking.

--Vic



Like starting a discussion on unions......eh? ;-)



JimH March 15th 07 01:52 PM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:25:18 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..
On 14 Mar 2007 17:15:57 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:54?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?

???????

Sorry, JimH. I guess I should have posted something about buying a
new lawnmower. :-)

Or just report local temperature. That's always thought-provoking.

--Vic



Like starting a discussion on unions......eh? ;-)

Since I was a Seafarer, unions always remind me of boating.
Used to do Erie in 300 footers. But I *did* mark it OT anyway.

--Vic


NP.

Ore carriers? What ports would you visit?



Harry Krause March 15th 07 02:01 PM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summerdays
 
Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:25:18 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On 14 Mar 2007 17:15:57 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:54?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?
???????

Sorry, JimH. I guess I should have posted something about buying a
new lawnmower. :-)
Or just report local temperature. That's always thought-provoking.

--Vic


Like starting a discussion on unions......eh? ;-)

Since I was a Seafarer, unions always remind me of boating.
Used to do Erie in 300 footers. But I *did* mark it OT anyway.

--Vic



You spend any time at Piney Point? I took a few courses there.

Vic Smith March 15th 07 02:14 PM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 
On 14 Mar 2007 17:15:57 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:54?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?


???????

Sorry, JimH. I guess I should have posted something about buying a
new lawnmower. :-)


Or just report local temperature. That's always thought-provoking.

--Vic

RJSmithers March 15th 07 02:21 PM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summerdays
 
Vic Smith wrote:
On 14 Mar 2007 17:15:57 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:54?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?

???????

Sorry, JimH. I guess I should have posted something about buying a
new lawnmower. :-)


Or just report local temperature. That's always thought-provoking.

--Vic

I wonder why no one has thought about putting up a web page where you
could check local and national weather. One would think there would be
a big demand for such a service. It would make it much easier than
having to come to rec.boats for weather forecasts.


Vic Smith March 15th 07 02:46 PM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:20:05 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On 14 Mar 2007 17:15:57 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:54?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?

???????

Sorry, JimH. I guess I should have posted something about buying a
new lawnmower. :-)


Or just report local temperature. That's always thought-provoking.

--Vic


Yes Vic...........as we all know the weather has absolutely nothing to do
with boating.

Hey, I never said that. Your weather reports always get me thinking
about boating. But I like gfretwell/Wayne report more, because that's
my boating location - when I get there, and when I get a boat.
I do admit that lawn mowers leave me totally limp.
That's why I said what I said, to push you more to temp reports and
away from lawn mowers. Did it work?

--Vic

Vic Smith March 15th 07 02:48 PM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:25:18 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Vic Smith" wrote in message
.. .
On 14 Mar 2007 17:15:57 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:54?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?

???????

Sorry, JimH. I guess I should have posted something about buying a
new lawnmower. :-)


Or just report local temperature. That's always thought-provoking.

--Vic



Like starting a discussion on unions......eh? ;-)

Since I was a Seafarer, unions always remind me of boating.
Used to do Erie in 300 footers. But I *did* mark it OT anyway.

--Vic

Short Wave Sportfishing March 15th 07 03:03 PM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:21:46 -0400, RJSmithers
wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On 14 Mar 2007 17:15:57 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:54?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?
???????

Sorry, JimH. I guess I should have posted something about buying a
new lawnmower. :-)


Or just report local temperature. That's always thought-provoking.


I wonder why no one has thought about putting up a web page where you
could check local and national weather. One would think there would be
a big demand for such a service. It would make it much easier than
having to come to rec.boats for weather forecasts.


What's a web page?

What's a web?

Damn kids and their terminology...

Short Wave Sportfishing March 15th 07 03:07 PM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:14:51 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On 14 Mar 2007 17:15:57 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:54?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?


???????

Sorry, JimH. I guess I should have posted something about buying a
new lawnmower. :-)


Or just report local temperature. That's always thought-provoking.


Speaking of weather, I ran into a neighbor when I filled up the truck
this morning and he has this theory about bad weather forecasts.

He believes that it's a conspiracy between convenience store owners,
those that report the weather and the baking and dairy industries.

His reasoning is that when the forecasts are written, they emphasize
the worst possible scenario so that people will run out and buy five
loafs of bread and three gallons of milk at convienence stores. :)

Harry Krause March 15th 07 03:14 PM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summerdays
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:14:51 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On 14 Mar 2007 17:15:57 -0700, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:54?pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?
???????

Sorry, JimH. I guess I should have posted something about buying a
new lawnmower. :-)

Or just report local temperature. That's always thought-provoking.


Speaking of weather, I ran into a neighbor when I filled up the truck
this morning and he has this theory about bad weather forecasts.

He believes that it's a conspiracy between convenience store owners,
those that report the weather and the baking and dairy industries.

His reasoning is that when the forecasts are written, they emphasize
the worst possible scenario so that people will run out and buy five
loafs of bread and three gallons of milk at convienence stores. :)



Convenience stores don't sell real bread. They only sell the mushy soft
crap Americans think is bread.


Vic Smith March 15th 07 03:22 PM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:52:45 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:



Ore carriers? What ports would you visit?

Tankers only. Toledo and Cleveland on Erie, maybe Erie.
Hit a lot of ports on them all, except never was on Superior.
Orion was the tanker's name.
Cleveland Tankers (Ashland Oil) was home ported in Toledo,
and I was with them most the time, but did a stint on the Standard
Oil tanker Illinois out of Whiting.
Only did it one season. Lonely existence unless you like bar girls
for companionship. I don't.

--Vic

Vic Smith March 15th 07 03:29 PM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:01:31 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


You spend any time at Piney Point? I took a few courses there.


No. I was a grunt in the fireroom. Fireman/Watertender.
Not officer or even deck material. Color deficiency kept
me from ever becoming a gentleman, even if that was possible.
BTW, I was Steelworker, Autoworker, Seafarer, Autoworker,
Teamster in that order.
Might have been Machinist somewhere in there too.
Thought I'd mention that since Jim brought up unions.

--Vic

CalifBill March 16th 07 07:19 AM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:07:56 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:54:20 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
egroups.com...
Here's a bit of trivia that might be of interest to Pacific NW
boaters, and to others outside the area as well. Recreational boaters
are being counted by a variety of scientific and environmental
organizations, and this piece illustrates just how they are going
about it in this area:

Quantification of Peak Season Marine Vessel Traffic Pressure in the
San Juan Islands

Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?

I didn't know that.

Did you know that 100% of all people who died last year are still
dead?


Cite?


Pizza?


Which topping(s)?



Tom Francis March 16th 07 11:22 AM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:19:09 GMT, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"Tom Francis" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:07:56 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:54:20 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
legroups.com...
Here's a bit of trivia that might be of interest to Pacific NW
boaters, and to others outside the area as well. Recreational boaters
are being counted by a variety of scientific and environmental
organizations, and this piece illustrates just how they are going
about it in this area:

Quantification of Peak Season Marine Vessel Traffic Pressure in the
San Juan Islands

Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?

I didn't know that.

Did you know that 100% of all people who died last year are still
dead?

Cite?


Pizza?


Which topping(s)?


Floor sweepings.

Calif Bill March 16th 07 11:19 PM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 

"Tom Francis" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:19:09 GMT, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"Tom Francis" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:07:56 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:54:20 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
glegroups.com...
Here's a bit of trivia that might be of interest to Pacific NW
boaters, and to others outside the area as well. Recreational
boaters
are being counted by a variety of scientific and environmental
organizations, and this piece illustrates just how they are going
about it in this area:

Quantification of Peak Season Marine Vessel Traffic Pressure in the
San Juan Islands

Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?

I didn't know that.

Did you know that 100% of all people who died last year are still
dead?

Cite?

Pizza?


Which topping(s)?


Floor sweepings.


Make sure the person dies before the end of time?



Short Wave Sportfishing March 17th 07 12:45 AM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:19:49 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Tom Francis" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:19:09 GMT, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"Tom Francis" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:07:56 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
om...
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:54:20 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oglegroups.com...
Here's a bit of trivia that might be of interest to Pacific NW
boaters, and to others outside the area as well. Recreational
boaters
are being counted by a variety of scientific and environmental
organizations, and this piece illustrates just how they are going
about it in this area:

Quantification of Peak Season Marine Vessel Traffic Pressure in the
San Juan Islands

Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other captive
animal?

I didn't know that.

Did you know that 100% of all people who died last year are still
dead?

Cite?

Pizza?

Which topping(s)?


Floor sweepings.


Make sure the person dies before the end of time?


Not to get all metaphysical on you here, but doesn't death kind of
imply that time had ended?

Calif Bill March 17th 07 02:22 AM

A study of the number of boats in the San Juan Islands on summer days
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:19:49 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Tom Francis" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:19:09 GMT, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"Tom Francis" wrote in message
m...
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:07:56 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
news:r73hv2ldf7ntb3fa60052m6dtj4s0q57na@4ax. com...
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:54:20 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ooglegroups.com...
Here's a bit of trivia that might be of interest to Pacific NW
boaters, and to others outside the area as well. Recreational
boaters
are being counted by a variety of scientific and environmental
organizations, and this piece illustrates just how they are going
about it in this area:

Quantification of Peak Season Marine Vessel Traffic Pressure in
the
San Juan Islands

Did you know that captive deer kill more humans than any other
captive
animal?

I didn't know that.

Did you know that 100% of all people who died last year are still
dead?

Cite?

Pizza?

Which topping(s)?

Floor sweepings.


Make sure the person dies before the end of time?


Not to get all metaphysical on you here, but doesn't death kind of
imply that time had ended?


Ended for them, but time still rolls on for the rest of the universe as we
know it.




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