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On 24 Feb 2007 23:36:21 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
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We'll be running a lot of
publicity in the magazine, and I think some of the local broadcast
media may pick this story up as weill.


There might be some liability risks to encouraging a bunch of folks to
go offshore. I've had quite a lot of experience with offshore ocean
racing in sailboats. The sponsors of these events are extremely
safety concious to the point of having a mandated list of safety
equipment and boat design features, crew and captain experience
requirements with resumes, documented SSB radio checks, certified
liferafts, and compulsory safety inspections.


Good point.

The terms of this "rally" seem heavily slanted to a certain kind of
boat, probably power cats. Everyone else might as well stay home.


Interesting you should mention that. I was just talking to my buddy
with the Blackfin about this and he thought much the same. We were
chatting about engines and I'm the side of outboards and he's thinking
some small block I/O setup because it fit the parameters of speed and
milage while I'm on the side of beating the parameters.

I'd love to know.
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Wayne.B wrote:
On 24 Feb 2007 23:36:21 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
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We'll be running a lot of
publicity in the magazine, and I think some of the local broadcast
media may pick this story up as weill.


There might be some liability risks to encouraging a bunch of folks to
go offshore. I've had quite a lot of experience with offshore ocean
racing in sailboats. The sponsors of these events are extremely
safety concious to the point of having a mandated list of safety
equipment and boat design features, crew and captain experience
requirements with resumes, documented SSB radio checks, certified
liferafts, and compulsory safety inspections.


Good point.

The terms of this "rally" seem heavily slanted to a certain kind of
boat, probably power cats. Everyone else might as well stay home.


Interesting you should mention that. I was just talking to my buddy
with the Blackfin about this and he thought much the same. We were
chatting about engines and I'm the side of outboards and he's thinking
some small block I/O setup because it fit the parameters of speed and
milage while I'm on the side of beating the parameters.

I'd love to know.



Speaking of blackfin, the company, or at least a company using the name
is back in business.

http://www.blackfinboats.com/

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Speaking of blackfin, the company, or at least a company using the name is
back in business.

http://www.blackfinboats.com/


I always liked the original Blackfins and know several people who have the
sportsfishing models. (one converted from twin 454 gassers to diesels).

I am curious if this "new" Blackfin Co. intends to build in-boards as well
as the outboard models shown on the website. It may be a case where, like
Century who is owned by Yamaha I believe, the name was purchased and boats
are being built simply as platforms for engines.

Eisboch


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Speaking of blackfin, the company, or at least a company using the name is
back in business.

http://www.blackfinboats.com/


I always liked the original Blackfins and know several people who have the
sportsfishing models. (one converted from twin 454 gassers to diesels).

I am curious if this "new" Blackfin Co. intends to build in-boards as well
as the outboard models shown on the website. It may be a case where, like
Century who is owned by Yamaha I believe, the name was purchased and boats
are being built simply as platforms for engines.

Eisboch




I echo your feelings for the original blackfins, which to me seemed to
be the successors to the earlier Bertrams. Most of the newer sportfish
boats these days seem to be in the condo vein, rather than the offshore
sportfish vein.

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On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:03:17 -0500, Harry Krause
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I echo your feelings for the original blackfins, which to me seemed to
be the successors to the earlier Bertrams. Most of the newer sportfish
boats these days seem to be in the condo vein, rather than the offshore
sportfish vein.


One of my neighbors down the canal had a real sweet looking Flybridge
Blackfin for sale last year. It looked a lot like a Bertram 31.
Unfortunately it had small gas engines with a lot of hours and it was
just crying out for an expensive repower with diesels.



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On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:55:35 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
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We were
chatting about engines and I'm the side of outboards and he's thinking
some small block I/O setup because it fit the parameters of speed and
milage while I'm on the side of beating the parameters.


Most small block I/Os that I'm familiar with get around 2 nmpg, maybe
2 1/2 on a good day. Those boats are way too small to cruise on big
water for 1400 miles without getting beat up pretty badly.

I think a power cat around 30 ft with diesels is about right but even
they would need a halfway decent weather window for the offshore part
of the trip.

Anything much bigger than that will either not have the speed or not
have the fuel economy.

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 15:55:35 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

We were
chatting about engines and I'm the side of outboards and he's thinking
some small block I/O setup because it fit the parameters of speed and
milage while I'm on the side of beating the parameters.


Most small block I/Os that I'm familiar with get around 2 nmpg, maybe
2 1/2 on a good day. Those boats are way too small to cruise on big
water for 1400 miles without getting beat up pretty badly.

I think a power cat around 30 ft with diesels is about right but even
they would need a halfway decent weather window for the offshore part
of the trip.

Anything much bigger than that will either not have the speed or not
have the fuel economy.


Could be.
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On Feb 25, 9:32?am, Wayne.B wrote:

I think a power cat around 30 ft with diesels is about right but even
they would need a halfway decent weather window for the offshore part
of the trip.



Excellent deduction. :-)

This whole idea started off as a one-boat publicity stunt for a
particular brand of power cat, but others are apparently eager to join
in.

By the end of May, there's probably a 65%-70% chance of at least
passable weather.



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By the end of May, there's probably a 65%-70% chance of at least
passable weather.


Would you fly on a plane with a 65 to 70% chance of arriving safely?

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On Feb 26, 7:02?am, Wayne.B wrote:
On 25 Feb 2007 22:44:49 -0800, "Chuck Gould"

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By the end of May, there's probably a 65%-70% chance of at least
passable weather.


Would you fly on a plane with a 65 to 70% chance of arriving safely?


"Passable" was not the best choice of words.

There's a 65-70% chance of making a comfortable passage.



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