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Josh Assing February 19th 07 10:18 PM

"whale tails" or cavitation plate foils
 
Side to side stabilization is much very different than reducing bow lift
while getting the boat on plane.


Tabs will help get the bow down faster, not the same as "reducing lift" but the
result is the same, at least it seems to me it is.

So I guess, from the other posts, I was wrong & my friend was right. :( I hate
it when I have to admit I'm wrong.


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Short Wave Sportfishing February 19th 07 10:42 PM

"whale tails" or cavitation plate foils
 
D.Duck wrote:

Isn't a good deal of that weight variation in fiberglass hulls?


Funny you should mention that.

I went/am going through this with Ranger right now.

Apparently weights can vary a lot.

Short Wave Sportfishing February 19th 07 10:43 PM

"whale tails" or cavitation plate foils
 
Josh Assing wrote:
Side to side stabilization is much very different than reducing bow lift
while getting the boat on plane.


Tabs will help get the bow down faster, not the same as "reducing lift" but the
result is the same, at least it seems to me it is.

So I guess, from the other posts, I was wrong & my friend was right. :( I hate
it when I have to admit I'm wrong.


Welcome to the club - I've made an entire career out of being wrong. :)

Josh Assing February 19th 07 11:39 PM

"whale tails" or cavitation plate foils
 
Welcome to the club - I've made an entire career out of being wrong. :)

So I called & let him know he was right -- now he's asking me "which is best" --
how did I become some sort of reference for whale tails? Last time I say
something is worthless!

I said "whatever you have is the best"

-j


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D.Duck February 19th 07 11:48 PM

"whale tails" or cavitation plate foils
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
D.Duck wrote:

Isn't a good deal of that weight variation in fiberglass hulls?


Funny you should mention that.

I went/am going through this with Ranger right now.

Apparently weights can vary a lot.


If I recall correctly as near as you can figure your hull is something like
800 pounds over Ranger's advertised nominal.

Still haven't figured that out?



Short Wave Sportfishing February 20th 07 12:10 AM

"whale tails" or cavitation plate foils
 
D.Duck wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
D.Duck wrote:

Isn't a good deal of that weight variation in fiberglass hulls?

Funny you should mention that.

I went/am going through this with Ranger right now.

Apparently weights can vary a lot.


If I recall correctly as near as you can figure your hull is something like
800 pounds over Ranger's advertised nominal.

Still haven't figured that out?


Nope.

rbstern February 20th 07 01:07 AM

"whale tails" or cavitation plate foils
 
On Feb 19, 10:48 am, Josh Assing wrote:
So, a buddy and I were talking -- he said I wasted my money on trim tabs. I
said I did not.

The conversation revolved around the use of whale tails (foils on the
cavitation plate).

I said that they could help; but would add stress to the outdrive, and if
something that simple really helped, manufactures would make their cavitation
plates larger.

What's the general opinion on them?


A number of years ago, I added one to a 17' bass boat with a 75hp
motor. The hole shot was noticiably better, lost maybe 1 mph on the
top end, The best part was remarkably lower planing speed. Didn't
notice any difference in turn performance.


Calif Bill February 20th 07 01:19 AM

"whale tails" or cavitation plate foils
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Josh Assing wrote:
Side to side stabilization is much very different than reducing bow lift
while getting the boat on plane.


Tabs will help get the bow down faster, not the same as "reducing lift"
but the
result is the same, at least it seems to me it is.

So I guess, from the other posts, I was wrong & my friend was right. :( I
hate
it when I have to admit I'm wrong.


Welcome to the club - I've made an entire career out of being wrong. :)


I thought you were a mathematician, not a weatherman.



Calif Bill February 20th 07 01:21 AM

"whale tails" or cavitation plate foils
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
D.Duck wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
D.Duck wrote:

Isn't a good deal of that weight variation in fiberglass hulls?
Funny you should mention that.

I went/am going through this with Ranger right now.

Apparently weights can vary a lot.


If I recall correctly as near as you can figure your hull is something
like 800 pounds over Ranger's advertised nominal.

Still haven't figured that out?


Nope.


My buddy's offshore raceboat a few years ago, came in 600# overweight.
Builder told him . . . Tough. You own it. Not competitoive, but you own
it.



John February 20th 07 04:29 AM

"whale tails" or cavitation plate foils
 

"Josh Assing" wrote in message
...
So, a buddy and I were talking -- he said I wasted my money on trim tabs.
I
said I did not.

The conversation revolved around the use of whale tails (foils on the
cavitation plate).

I said that they could help; but would add stress to the outdrive, and if
something that simple really helped, manufactures would make their
cavitation
plates larger.

What's the general opinion on them?

-j



I had a 18 foot century with a 140 mercruiser i/o. The boat was not much
good for salom skiing because it took so long for the front end to come down
and get on plane. With a plate shaped like a wing, sorry don't remember
brand, it would plane slightly faster, making the boat a tiny bit more
tolerable. With the the out drive trimmed up, the boat also turned better.
They are deffinately NOT a solution, but may help your particular boat.





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