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JoeSpareBedroom February 20th 07 12:54 AM

Length of chains? (Was 'Cross chains or not when trailering')
 
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
wrote:
Waiting for a bearing to make noise before it is replaced is sorta
like saying, "I'll wait until it breaks a little and then I'll fix
it...."
--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Or, in the automotive world.

"I'll wait for the idiot light to come on before I check the coolant,
or oil...."


Not exactly. What do you know about Bearing Buddies?


I know that you can overload them with grease and blow out the seals.



Well, you've got have some sort of feel for these things, and read the
friggin' instructions. "Add grease until ring protrudes 1/8" from housing."



Short Wave Sportfishing February 20th 07 01:01 AM

Length of chains? (Was 'Cross chains or not when trailering')
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
wrote:
Waiting for a bearing to make noise before it is replaced is sorta
like saying, "I'll wait until it breaks a little and then I'll fix
it...."
--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.
Or, in the automotive world.

"I'll wait for the idiot light to come on before I check the coolant,
or oil...."
Not exactly. What do you know about Bearing Buddies?

I know that you can overload them with grease and blow out the seals.


Well, you've got have some sort of feel for these things, and read the
friggin' instructions. "Add grease until ring protrudes 1/8" from housing."


Ok - read that again and tell me that mistakes can't be made. :)

JoeSpareBedroom February 20th 07 01:10 AM

Length of chains? (Was 'Cross chains or not when trailering')
 
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
wrote:
Waiting for a bearing to make noise before it is replaced is sorta
like saying, "I'll wait until it breaks a little and then I'll fix
it...."
--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.
Or, in the automotive world.

"I'll wait for the idiot light to come on before I check the coolant,
or oil...."
Not exactly. What do you know about Bearing Buddies?
I know that you can overload them with grease and blow out the seals.


Well, you've got have some sort of feel for these things, and read the
friggin' instructions. "Add grease until ring protrudes 1/8" from
housing."


Ok - read that again and tell me that mistakes can't be made. :)



Disclaimer: The next statement is not meant to preclude servicing the
bearing in the near future. And, the statement applies only to me, not
anyone else who might be unfortunate enough to glean information from this
discussion. You have been disclaimed.

This is the statement referred to in the above disclaimer: Seven years and
no problems means something.
End of statement.



den February 20th 07 01:26 AM

Length of chains? (Was 'Cross chains or not when trailering')
 
Trailer problems that can occur:
1 Was passed by a car I had been towing, herded it into a field, and
found the ball in the hitch,(BOLT BROKEN!) both chains broken at the
dragging area, and of course electrical spaghetti. Many many years,
and lessons ago.

2 Moved out from a stop sign, and rear view mirror filled with the
bottom of the 18ft bass boat. S L O W E D down, and the boat reseated
itself. The SAFETY CHAIN hooked to the bow eye, clip had failed. The
winch payed out and the gear reduction controlled the speed. Just
lucky there except for the damage to the transom. A 45 degree angle
1/4 inch of glass ground off right at the bottom/transom area. Now
install the drain plug from the engineroom side.

3 Found out that a small single axle trailer with a sailboat sways
wildly from one side to the other when hanging on by ONE chain. Thank
God I was behaving. (In the right hand lane under 55MPH) yep
California, not Arizona. In AZ I have towed a Jetski at 75MPH, legal.
but stoopid. If it ever got away, it would go a mile before stopping.
Someone will calculate that out, and prove me wrong. Oh welll
Crossed chains only way to go. Put a BIG pipewrench on ball nut and
pull, Check chains, and hooks, yes hookup brake cable (for obvious
reasons). Drive a sensible speed. I drive an old Porsche 944 at a
pretty good clip, and have been passed by SUV's pulling a river
Jetboat. It kinda tightenes my gut.

Bearing noises:
Returning from a cross country tour in Mass, I felt,heard a change
in the left front wheel (Dodge van) Drove into a Chrysler place, and
bedded down for the night. In the morning ,awakened by someone I went
in to git a bearing replaced. The mechanic couldn't hear anything. I
told him that the grease had probably thickened. He pulled the
bearing, and races, and did find a gall. He said it was the least
damaged bearing he had ever seen. I told him I had 1400 more miles to
go, and didn't want to take a chance.

on boat trailers, Bearing Buddys work, just keep them pressurized.





D.Duck February 20th 07 02:15 AM

Length of chains? (Was 'Cross chains or not when trailering')
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:10:08 -0500, D.Duck penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:



I've been using this stuff on my trailer's bearings since 1999, about 40K
miles. I find it less of a mess when you have to inspect the bearings.
The
clear plastic cover lets you easily inspect the lube level.

http://www.liqualube.com/


No problem with liquid over grease, but please explain how this
liquid, "virtually eliminates dirt and water contamination in Marine
Trailers."

Isn't virtual elimination a bit like being a little pregnant?

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats


I didn't write the promotional material. 8). I've used the product for
about 40K miles. I check the bearings every year, I'm still on the
originals and they look just fine.

When I first installed this system I started with fresh bearings and cleaned
out all the lubricant they come with when new. Now all that's doing the
lubricating is the Liqui-Lube product.

Works for me and several of my friends. I'm not trying to sell anything.



Short Wave Sportfishing February 20th 07 11:00 AM

Length of chains? (Was 'Cross chains or not when trailering')
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
wrote:
Waiting for a bearing to make noise before it is replaced is sorta
like saying, "I'll wait until it breaks a little and then I'll fix
it...."
--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.
Or, in the automotive world.

"I'll wait for the idiot light to come on before I check the coolant,
or oil...."
Not exactly. What do you know about Bearing Buddies?
I know that you can overload them with grease and blow out the seals.
Well, you've got have some sort of feel for these things, and read the
friggin' instructions. "Add grease until ring protrudes 1/8" from
housing."

Ok - read that again and tell me that mistakes can't be made. :)


Disclaimer: The next statement is not meant to preclude servicing the
bearing in the near future. And, the statement applies only to me, not
anyone else who might be unfortunate enough to glean information from this
discussion. You have been disclaimed.

This is the statement referred to in the above disclaimer: Seven years and
no problems means something.
End of statement.


Not what I asked.

Read that again and tell me that mistakes can't be made. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing February 20th 07 11:02 AM

Length of chains? (Was 'Cross chains or not when trailering')
 
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:10:08 -0500, D.Duck penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


I've been using this stuff on my trailer's bearings since 1999, about 40K
miles. I find it less of a mess when you have to inspect the bearings. The
clear plastic cover lets you easily inspect the lube level.

http://www.liqualube.com/


No problem with liquid over grease, but please explain how this
liquid, "virtually eliminates dirt and water contamination in Marine
Trailers."

Isn't virtual elimination a bit like being a little pregnant?


Hey - there is no FDA when it comes to marine trailers. :)

I have oil filled bearings on my Ranger and they have been relatively
maintenance free.

I say relatively - they can disintegrate under stress.

Which is a story for another time. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing February 20th 07 11:10 AM

Length of chains? (Was 'Cross chains or not when trailering')
 
wrote:
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:01:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Not exactly. What do you know about Bearing Buddies?
I know that you can overload them with grease and blow out the seals.
Well, you've got have some sort of feel for these things, and read the
friggin' instructions. "Add grease until ring protrudes 1/8" from housing."


Ok - read that again and tell me that mistakes can't be made. :)


If you can't "operate" bearing buddies you are too stupid to operate a
boat. You just pump grease in there until the plate is approaching the
stop. Going beyond that is about the same as filling your gas tank
until it runs out on the deck, then putting in a little more for good
measure.


Well, let's put it this way. This is your first boat and you want to
install BBs. Let's say it's a used boat and trailer. It's entirely
possible to read the directions and screw up - has nothing to do with
being incapable of operating a boat.

Just to prove a point - one of my neighbors installed a set a few years
ago on his lawn tractor trailer. We had been talking about using BBs
and I talked him into getting a set.

He called me one day and said that he didn't understand how to get the
things into the hub - he put them in, they kept falling out.

This is a guy who was a professor of mechanical engineering at UCONN.

Mistakes can be made when one assumes something. In this case, he
purchased the wrong ones.

Bearing buddies do not eliminate the need to repack your bearings now
and then but properly used they will assure repacking is all you need
to do.


Many people don't know how to properly pack a bearing anyway.

JoeSpareBedroom February 20th 07 12:19 PM

Length of chains? (Was 'Cross chains or not when trailering')
 
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
wrote:
Waiting for a bearing to make noise before it is replaced is sorta
like saying, "I'll wait until it breaks a little and then I'll fix
it...."
--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.
Or, in the automotive world.

"I'll wait for the idiot light to come on before I check the
coolant,
or oil...."
Not exactly. What do you know about Bearing Buddies?
I know that you can overload them with grease and blow out the seals.
Well, you've got have some sort of feel for these things, and read the
friggin' instructions. "Add grease until ring protrudes 1/8" from
housing."
Ok - read that again and tell me that mistakes can't be made. :)


Disclaimer: The next statement is not meant to preclude servicing the
bearing in the near future. And, the statement applies only to me, not
anyone else who might be unfortunate enough to glean information from
this discussion. You have been disclaimed.

This is the statement referred to in the above disclaimer: Seven years
and no problems means something.
End of statement.


Not what I asked.

Read that again and tell me that mistakes can't be made. :)


Hang on. Need coffee I.



Don White February 20th 07 02:58 PM

Length of chains? (Was 'Cross chains or not when trailering')
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
m...

Many people don't know how to properly pack a bearing anyway.



That's why I'm leary about dia-assembling and re-packing. What if I screw
something up?




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