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Short Wave Sportfishing February 17th 07 12:03 PM

Interesting Nautical Fact of the Day...
 
An irregular ongoing series of interesting facts related to boating.

Toredo Worm:

The Toredo worm (ship worm)has been the bane of wooden ships, boats,
pilings and retaining walls since man has ventured to the sea. A type of
clam, the Toredo worm has two shells, enclosing only the front end of
the body which function as a tool rather than a protective covering -
they are a boring clam.

Each shell has toothed ridges which shave away bits of wood into smaller
pieces and then those are ingested. Toredo worms have been known to
achieve a length of up to 2 ft long, although the shells remain only
about a foot long.

The British and Spanish navies estimated that a wooden hull in the
Carribean in the age of sail was ten years.

Mariners as early as 500 BC tried to protect their wooden ships by
various combinations of arsenic, sulfur, tars and oils. The British Navy
experimented with a sacrificial covering of wood covering tar, but it
wasn't successful. It wasn't until the invention of copper hull plating
that the Toredo worm became less of a problem.



JLH February 17th 07 12:57 PM

Interesting Nautical Fact of the Day...
 
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:03:40 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

An irregular ongoing series of interesting facts related to boating.

Toredo Worm:

The Toredo worm (ship worm)has been the bane of wooden ships, boats,
pilings and retaining walls since man has ventured to the sea. A type of
clam, the Toredo worm has two shells, enclosing only the front end of
the body which function as a tool rather than a protective covering -
they are a boring clam.

Each shell has toothed ridges which shave away bits of wood into smaller
pieces and then those are ingested. Toredo worms have been known to
achieve a length of up to 2 ft long, although the shells remain only
about a foot long.

The British and Spanish navies estimated that a wooden hull in the
Carribean in the age of sail was ten years.

Mariners as early as 500 BC tried to protect their wooden ships by
various combinations of arsenic, sulfur, tars and oils. The British Navy
experimented with a sacrificial covering of wood covering tar, but it
wasn't successful. It wasn't until the invention of copper hull plating
that the Toredo worm became less of a problem.


Sounds like you're reading the Patrick O'Brian series. Great!
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

Tim February 17th 07 03:19 PM

Interesting Nautical Fact of the Day...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Mariners as early as 500 BC tried to protect their wooden ships by
various combinations of arsenic, sulfur, tars and oils. The British Navy
experimented with a sacrificial covering of wood covering tar, but it
wasn't successful. It wasn't until the invention of copper hull plating
that the Toredo worm became less of a problem.


Copper plating?
That would kinds dull their fangs, I'd imagine...


Eisboch February 17th 07 05:52 PM

Interesting Nautical Fact of the Day...
 

"Tim" wrote in message
ps.com...

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Mariners as early as 500 BC tried to protect their wooden ships by
various combinations of arsenic, sulfur, tars and oils. The British Navy
experimented with a sacrificial covering of wood covering tar, but it
wasn't successful. It wasn't until the invention of copper hull plating
that the Toredo worm became less of a problem.


Copper plating?
That would kinds dull their fangs, I'd imagine...


Mariners long ago discovered that one of the natural properties of copper
was it's ability to kill off bacteria preventing it from growing on it's
surface. Copper plating was used, later replaced by anti-fouling paint with
very high copper content (until it was banned).

Makes me wonder about any potential health hazards due to the increasing
practice of replacing copper pipes with PVC in the water supply side of new
homes.

Eisboch



Short Wave Sportfishing February 17th 07 09:02 PM

Interesting Nautical Fact of the Day...
 
JLH wrote:
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:03:40 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

An irregular ongoing series of interesting facts related to boating.

Toredo Worm:

The Toredo worm (ship worm)has been the bane of wooden ships, boats,
pilings and retaining walls since man has ventured to the sea. A type of
clam, the Toredo worm has two shells, enclosing only the front end of
the body which function as a tool rather than a protective covering -
they are a boring clam.

Each shell has toothed ridges which shave away bits of wood into smaller
pieces and then those are ingested. Toredo worms have been known to
achieve a length of up to 2 ft long, although the shells remain only
about a foot long.

The British and Spanish navies estimated that a wooden hull in the
Carribean in the age of sail was ten years.

Mariners as early as 500 BC tried to protect their wooden ships by
various combinations of arsenic, sulfur, tars and oils. The British Navy
experimented with a sacrificial covering of wood covering tar, but it
wasn't successful. It wasn't until the invention of copper hull plating
that the Toredo worm became less of a problem.


Sounds like you're reading the Patrick O'Brian series. Great!


Already have.

They sucked.

Short Wave Sportfishing February 17th 07 09:03 PM

Interesting Nautical Fact of the Day...
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
ps.com...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Mariners as early as 500 BC tried to protect their wooden ships by
various combinations of arsenic, sulfur, tars and oils. The British Navy
experimented with a sacrificial covering of wood covering tar, but it
wasn't successful. It wasn't until the invention of copper hull plating
that the Toredo worm became less of a problem.

Copper plating?
That would kinds dull their fangs, I'd imagine...


Mariners long ago discovered that one of the natural properties of copper
was it's ability to kill off bacteria preventing it from growing on it's
surface. Copper plating was used, later replaced by anti-fouling paint with
very high copper content (until it was banned).

Makes me wonder about any potential health hazards due to the increasing
practice of replacing copper pipes with PVC in the water supply side of new
homes.


One word - cheaper.

Don White February 17th 07 09:50 PM

Interesting Nautical Fact of the Day...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
ps.com...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Mariners as early as 500 BC tried to protect their wooden ships by
various combinations of arsenic, sulfur, tars and oils. The British
Navy
experimented with a sacrificial covering of wood covering tar, but it
wasn't successful. It wasn't until the invention of copper hull
plating
that the Toredo worm became less of a problem.
Copper plating?
That would kinds dull their fangs, I'd imagine...


Mariners long ago discovered that one of the natural properties of copper
was it's ability to kill off bacteria preventing it from growing on it's
surface. Copper plating was used, later replaced by anti-fouling paint
with very high copper content (until it was banned).

Makes me wonder about any potential health hazards due to the increasing
practice of replacing copper pipes with PVC in the water supply side of
new homes.


One word - cheaper.


2nd word - easier.



JLH February 17th 07 09:59 PM

Interesting Nautical Fact of the Day...
 
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 21:02:46 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

JLH wrote:
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:03:40 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

An irregular ongoing series of interesting facts related to boating.

Toredo Worm:

The Toredo worm (ship worm)has been the bane of wooden ships, boats,
pilings and retaining walls since man has ventured to the sea. A type of
clam, the Toredo worm has two shells, enclosing only the front end of
the body which function as a tool rather than a protective covering -
they are a boring clam.

Each shell has toothed ridges which shave away bits of wood into smaller
pieces and then those are ingested. Toredo worms have been known to
achieve a length of up to 2 ft long, although the shells remain only
about a foot long.

The British and Spanish navies estimated that a wooden hull in the
Carribean in the age of sail was ten years.

Mariners as early as 500 BC tried to protect their wooden ships by
various combinations of arsenic, sulfur, tars and oils. The British Navy
experimented with a sacrificial covering of wood covering tar, but it
wasn't successful. It wasn't until the invention of copper hull plating
that the Toredo worm became less of a problem.


Sounds like you're reading the Patrick O'Brian series. Great!


Already have.

They sucked.


It's a shame. Did you come to that conclusion after reading all 21? It took
me about three books to really get into it. It takes about that long to
learn all the terminology, unless one memorizes each term.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

Short Wave Sportfishing February 17th 07 10:28 PM

Interesting Nautical Fact of the Day...
 
JLH wrote:
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 21:02:46 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

JLH wrote:
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:03:40 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

An irregular ongoing series of interesting facts related to boating.

Toredo Worm:

The Toredo worm (ship worm)has been the bane of wooden ships, boats,
pilings and retaining walls since man has ventured to the sea. A type of
clam, the Toredo worm has two shells, enclosing only the front end of
the body which function as a tool rather than a protective covering -
they are a boring clam.

Each shell has toothed ridges which shave away bits of wood into smaller
pieces and then those are ingested. Toredo worms have been known to
achieve a length of up to 2 ft long, although the shells remain only
about a foot long.

The British and Spanish navies estimated that a wooden hull in the
Carribean in the age of sail was ten years.

Mariners as early as 500 BC tried to protect their wooden ships by
various combinations of arsenic, sulfur, tars and oils. The British Navy
experimented with a sacrificial covering of wood covering tar, but it
wasn't successful. It wasn't until the invention of copper hull plating
that the Toredo worm became less of a problem.

Sounds like you're reading the Patrick O'Brian series. Great!

Already have.

They sucked.


It's a shame. Did you come to that conclusion after reading all 21? It took
me about three books to really get into it. It takes about that long to
learn all the terminology, unless one memorizes each term.


I never cared for the Aubrey series. Just not as interesting as the others.

Calif Bill February 18th 07 04:29 AM

Interesting Nautical Fact of the Day...
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
ps.com...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Mariners as early as 500 BC tried to protect their wooden ships by
various combinations of arsenic, sulfur, tars and oils. The British
Navy
experimented with a sacrificial covering of wood covering tar, but it
wasn't successful. It wasn't until the invention of copper hull
plating
that the Toredo worm became less of a problem.
Copper plating?
That would kinds dull their fangs, I'd imagine...


Mariners long ago discovered that one of the natural properties of
copper was it's ability to kill off bacteria preventing it from growing
on it's surface. Copper plating was used, later replaced by
anti-fouling paint with very high copper content (until it was banned).

Makes me wonder about any potential health hazards due to the increasing
practice of replacing copper pipes with PVC in the water supply side of
new homes.


One word - cheaper.


2nd word - easier.

easier == cheaper.



Fredo February 18th 07 07:21 PM

Interesting Nautical Fact of the Day...
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
JLH wrote:
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 21:02:46 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

JLH wrote:
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:03:40 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

An irregular ongoing series of interesting facts related to boating.

Toredo Worm:

The Toredo worm (ship worm)has been the bane of wooden ships,
boats, pilings and retaining walls since man has ventured to the
sea. A type of clam, the Toredo worm has two shells, enclosing only
the front end of the body which function as a tool rather than a
protective covering - they are a boring clam.

Each shell has toothed ridges which shave away bits of wood into
smaller pieces and then those are ingested. Toredo worms have been
known to achieve a length of up to 2 ft long, although the shells
remain only about a foot long.

The British and Spanish navies estimated that a wooden hull in the
Carribean in the age of sail was ten years.

Mariners as early as 500 BC tried to protect their wooden ships by
various combinations of arsenic, sulfur, tars and oils. The British
Navy experimented with a sacrificial covering of wood covering tar,
but it wasn't successful. It wasn't until the invention of copper
hull plating that the Toredo worm became less of a problem.

Sounds like you're reading the Patrick O'Brian series. Great!
Already have.

They sucked.


It's a shame. Did you come to that conclusion after reading all 21? It
took
me about three books to really get into it. It takes about that long to
learn all the terminology, unless one memorizes each term.


I never cared for the Aubrey series. Just not as interesting as the others.




IMHO I have really enjoyed the Patrick O'Brian books! I still have
several to go.

The Golden Ocean was really good!

Fredo

JLH February 18th 07 08:24 PM

Interesting Nautical Fact of the Day...
 
On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:21:37 -0500, Fredo wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
JLH wrote:
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 21:02:46 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

JLH wrote:
On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:03:40 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

An irregular ongoing series of interesting facts related to boating.

Toredo Worm:

The Toredo worm (ship worm)has been the bane of wooden ships,
boats, pilings and retaining walls since man has ventured to the
sea. A type of clam, the Toredo worm has two shells, enclosing only
the front end of the body which function as a tool rather than a
protective covering - they are a boring clam.

Each shell has toothed ridges which shave away bits of wood into
smaller pieces and then those are ingested. Toredo worms have been
known to achieve a length of up to 2 ft long, although the shells
remain only about a foot long.

The British and Spanish navies estimated that a wooden hull in the
Carribean in the age of sail was ten years.

Mariners as early as 500 BC tried to protect their wooden ships by
various combinations of arsenic, sulfur, tars and oils. The British
Navy experimented with a sacrificial covering of wood covering tar,
but it wasn't successful. It wasn't until the invention of copper
hull plating that the Toredo worm became less of a problem.

Sounds like you're reading the Patrick O'Brian series. Great!
Already have.

They sucked.

It's a shame. Did you come to that conclusion after reading all 21? It
took
me about three books to really get into it. It takes about that long to
learn all the terminology, unless one memorizes each term.


I never cared for the Aubrey series. Just not as interesting as the others.




IMHO I have really enjoyed the Patrick O'Brian books! I still have
several to go.

The Golden Ocean was really good!

Fredo


I loved them, once I got into them which took a couple books. You'll hate
finishing the 20th book!

When finished with them, you might try the Alan Lewrie series by Dewey
Lambdin. The books aren't as technical, but they're a fun read.
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

Chuck Gould February 19th 07 07:10 PM

Interesting Nautical Fact of the Day...
 
On Feb 17, 9:52�am, "Eisboch" wrote:


Mariners long ago discovered that one of the natural properties of copper
was it's ability to kill off bacteria preventing it from growing on it's
surface. *Copper plating was used, later replaced by anti-fouling paint with
very high copper content (until it was banned).


Tri-butyl tin was banned. Not copper, unless perhaps you're speaking
to just a local situation. With the disappearance of the more
effective, (but more toxic and more environmentally destructive) TBT
paints, copper is still the active ingredient in most anti-fouling
paint sold today.

There are a number of formulas that may eventually take replace copper
based paint, but most are either in the experimental stage or still
considered inadequate when compared to copper.






Eisboch February 19th 07 08:18 PM

Interesting Nautical Fact of the Day...
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 17, 9:52?am, "Eisboch" wrote:


Mariners long ago discovered that one of the natural properties of copper
was it's ability to kill off bacteria preventing it from growing on it's
surface. Copper plating was used, later replaced by anti-fouling paint
with
very high copper content (until it was banned).


Tri-butyl tin was banned. Not copper, unless perhaps you're speaking
to just a local situation. With the disappearance of the more
effective, (but more toxic and more environmentally destructive) TBT
paints, copper is still the active ingredient in most anti-fouling
paint sold today.

There are a number of formulas that may eventually take replace copper
based paint, but most are either in the experimental stage or still
considered inadequate when compared to copper.

Your right ... it was the tri-butyl tin. I don't know why I was thinking
copper, although there are some efforts, California in particular, to ban
copper also as an anti-fouling paint additive.

Eisboch







Short Wave Sportfishing February 19th 07 08:22 PM

Interesting Nautical Fact of the Day...
 
Eisboch wrote:

Your right ... it was the tri-butyl tin. I don't know why I was thinking
copper, although there are some efforts, California in particular, to ban
copper also as an anti-fouling paint additive.


The whole and single purpose of the California Legislature is to ban
everything so that nobody has anything.

Except for the rich folks who can pay the fines and taxes.

Calif Bill February 20th 07 01:22 AM

Interesting Nautical Fact of the Day...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:

Your right ... it was the tri-butyl tin. I don't know why I was thinking
copper, although there are some efforts, California in particular, to ban
copper also as an anti-fouling paint additive.


The whole and single purpose of the California Legislature is to ban
everything so that nobody has anything.

Except for the rich folks who can pay the fines and taxes.


And the legislators.




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