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[email protected] February 12th 07 07:30 PM

YouNationalist
 
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 10:44:26 -0600, "crosstar"
wrote:

YOUNATIONALIST

The "YouNationalist" Channel is available via separate, commercial-servers,
featuring core, abbreviated instructional-material. Short, but poignant, video-clips
are available on history, ideology, training, tactics, organization and current-events.
Offerings include speeches by various pro-majority leaders, coverage of protests,
detailing of strategy and step-by-step activist-techniques. Appearing are Richard
Barrett, James Bell, Corkey Bowman and Michael Palasch. Viewers may catch
glimpses of the Nationalist National Convention, Nationalist-symbols and
pro-majority personalities, on-the-fly, with links back to Crosstar, for further
reference. Acccording to Richie Rose, the Channel is especially appealing to
youth and reaches a significant audience, which might otherwise be bypassed.

"YouNationalist" is part of the "Crosstar-News Service", complimenting videos
available through "Crosstar Video" on the Crosstar website, where viewers may
download more lengthy videos or order full-length, thirty-minute programs in
VHS or DVD formats. Crosstar, which carries no advertising, does not endorse
outside links, sites, advertising or services and avoids commercial-enterprises,
as much as possible. "YouNationalist" is accesssible only through sources
which have viable policies to protect Crosstar copyrights and trademarks.

Although Crosstar is among the most-popular of Internet-websites, ranking
consistently in the top 100,000, it takes advantage of being able to reach
potential-recruits by way of services outside is own operations. The downside
is that such services invariably are commercial, containing advertisements
which Crosstar does not endorse. The upside is that prospects, especially youth,
may discover Crosstar in new and tantalizing ways. Although most tend to
"window-shop," many are expressing satisfaction in the education received and
are becoming more involved. Clips range in length from one-half-minute to
ten-minute segments.

http://www.nationalist.org/docs/inst...07/021201.html

Crosstar
Trademark/service of The Nationalist Movement
nationalist.org
Not necessarily Crosstar views
© 2007 The Nationalist Movement

A much needed program. We can anticipate it's popularity.

Max

Chuck Gould February 12th 07 10:29 PM

Eliminate white light........
 


in the pilothouse to better facilitate night vision. The red or blue
portions of the spectrum will provide adequate visibility without
destroying the ability of the eye to see clearly after dark.


Tim February 12th 07 10:38 PM

YouNationalist
 
On Feb 12, 1:30 pm, wrote:


http://groups.google.com/groups/prof...ZhN98BFg&hl=en


Tim February 12th 07 10:41 PM

Eliminate white light........
 
On Feb 12, 4:29 pm, "Chuck Gould" wrote:
in the pilothouse to better facilitate night vision. The red or blue
portions of the spectrum will provide adequate visibility without
destroying the ability of the eye to see clearly after dark.


whatever happened to old fashioned oil lanterns? or candles under
glass?


Chuck Gould February 12th 07 11:01 PM

Eliminate white light........
 
On Feb 12, 2:41?pm, "Tim" wrote:
On Feb 12, 4:29 pm, "Chuck Gould" wrote:

in the pilothouse to better facilitate night vision. The red or blue
portions of the spectrum will provide adequate visibility without
destroying the ability of the eye to see clearly after dark.


whatever happened to old fashioned oil lanterns? or candles under
glass?


I keep a functioning brass oil lantern suspended over the dinette
table. With a bit of lamp oil and a properly trimmed wick, it can
create a very romantic ambience after dark at anchor.

Downsides;

1. No matter how carefully you try to manage one of these things it
can and will smoke a bit. Screws up the headliner and can be tough to
clean off.

2. In a severe storm, you need to remember to secure the oil lantern
or it could conceivably come flying off the hook and crash into
something or somebody.
One more unneeded distraction at a time when full attention needs to
be paid to operating the boat.

3. Fire hazard. No matter how carefully managed, it's just not as safe
as a light bulb.


Most candles are just not a good idea, either at home or on the boat.
The stuff that goes into the wick, particularly, is pretty nasty once
it's airborne and getting sucked into the lungs. May be some "organic"
alternatives. But with a greater fire hazard than an oil lamp and all
the lead etc in the candle smoke I personally have learned to avoid
using candles aboard. (Wife sneaks a candle in a jar into the head
once in a while and claims its an air freshener- and we usually have a
"discussion" about it.)


JimH February 12th 07 11:31 PM

Eliminate white light........
 

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 12, 2:41?pm, "Tim" wrote:
On Feb 12, 4:29 pm, "Chuck Gould" wrote:

in the pilothouse to better facilitate night vision. The red or blue
portions of the spectrum will provide adequate visibility without
destroying the ability of the eye to see clearly after dark.


whatever happened to old fashioned oil lanterns? or candles under
glass?


I keep a functioning brass oil lantern suspended over the dinette
table. With a bit of lamp oil and a properly trimmed wick, it can
create a very romantic ambience after dark at anchor.

Downsides;

1. No matter how carefully you try to manage one of these things it
can and will smoke a bit. Screws up the headliner and can be tough to
clean off.

2. In a severe storm, you need to remember to secure the oil lantern
or it could conceivably come flying off the hook and crash into
something or somebody.
One more unneeded distraction at a time when full attention needs to
be paid to operating the boat.

3. Fire hazard. No matter how carefully managed, it's just not as safe
as a light bulb.


Most candles are just not a good idea, either at home or on the boat.
The stuff that goes into the wick, particularly, is pretty nasty once
it's airborne and getting sucked into the lungs. May be some "organic"
alternatives. But with a greater fire hazard than an oil lamp and all
the lead etc in the candle smoke I personally have learned to avoid
using candles aboard. (Wife sneaks a candle in a jar into the head
once in a while and claims its an air freshener- and we usually have a
"discussion" about it.)


A 50 some foot SeaRay was sunk to the waterline at an exclusive marina in
the Sandusky, OH area a few years ago all due to a candle knocked over in
the cabin area. Yes, they are indeed dangerous to burn on a boat.

A fuel oil lamp (burning a Class II combustible liquid with a flash point
between 100F and 140F) is certainly more dangerous if the fuel container is
ruptured or turned over.



Harry Krause February 12th 07 11:38 PM

Eliminate white light........
 
JimH wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 12, 2:41?pm, "Tim" wrote:
On Feb 12, 4:29 pm, "Chuck Gould" wrote:

in the pilothouse to better facilitate night vision. The red or blue
portions of the spectrum will provide adequate visibility without
destroying the ability of the eye to see clearly after dark.
whatever happened to old fashioned oil lanterns? or candles under
glass?

I keep a functioning brass oil lantern suspended over the dinette
table. With a bit of lamp oil and a properly trimmed wick, it can
create a very romantic ambience after dark at anchor.

Downsides;

1. No matter how carefully you try to manage one of these things it
can and will smoke a bit. Screws up the headliner and can be tough to
clean off.

2. In a severe storm, you need to remember to secure the oil lantern
or it could conceivably come flying off the hook and crash into
something or somebody.
One more unneeded distraction at a time when full attention needs to
be paid to operating the boat.

3. Fire hazard. No matter how carefully managed, it's just not as safe
as a light bulb.


Most candles are just not a good idea, either at home or on the boat.
The stuff that goes into the wick, particularly, is pretty nasty once
it's airborne and getting sucked into the lungs. May be some "organic"
alternatives. But with a greater fire hazard than an oil lamp and all
the lead etc in the candle smoke I personally have learned to avoid
using candles aboard. (Wife sneaks a candle in a jar into the head
once in a while and claims its an air freshener- and we usually have a
"discussion" about it.)


A 50 some foot SeaRay was sunk to the waterline at an exclusive marina in
the Sandusky, OH area a few years ago all due to a candle knocked over in
the cabin area. Yes, they are indeed dangerous to burn on a boat.

A fuel oil lamp (burning a Class II combustible liquid with a flash point
between 100F and 140F) is certainly more dangerous if the fuel container is
ruptured or turned over.




I hear expired flares can add a nice glow to the cabin.


Short Wave Sportfishing February 12th 07 11:54 PM

Eliminate white light........
 
Chuck Gould wrote:

in the pilothouse to better facilitate night vision. The red or blue
portions of the spectrum will provide adequate visibility without
destroying the ability of the eye to see clearly after dark.


Interesting subject.

Red is a good, but only at low wavelengths - around 600 millimicrons.
At higher wavelengths, it is virtually the same as white light.

Better is blue/green (teal) around 525 millimicrons.

If you need to see color, then very low intensity white light is
preferred. And if you need to keep your night vision, cover one
eye

Now the inevitable question is, why are instrument lights red?

They aren't - they are orange/red because of people who are
color blind.

HAH!!!

-rick- February 13th 07 03:53 AM

Eliminate white light........
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

in the pilothouse to better facilitate night vision. The red or blue
portions of the spectrum will provide adequate visibility without
destroying the ability of the eye to see clearly after dark.


Interesting subject.

Red is a good, but only at low wavelengths - around 600 millimicrons.
At higher wavelengths, it is virtually the same as white light.

Better is blue/green (teal) around 525 millimicrons.



I thought it was best to stay away from the peak response of
the rod @ ~500nm. That's why a longer wavelength red 600nm
is good. 525nm is almost at peak rod sensitivity. (?)

http://webvision.med.utah.edu/imageswv/spectra.jpeg

-rick-

Short Wave Sportfishing February 13th 07 11:34 AM

Eliminate white light........
 
-rick- wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:

in the pilothouse to better facilitate night vision. The red or blue
portions of the spectrum will provide adequate visibility without
destroying the ability of the eye to see clearly after dark.


Interesting subject.

Red is a good, but only at low wavelengths - around 600 millimicrons.
At higher wavelengths, it is virtually the same as white light.

Better is blue/green (teal) around 525 millimicrons.


I thought it was best to stay away from the peak response of the rod @
~500nm. That's why a longer wavelength red 600nm is good. 525nm is
almost at peak rod sensitivity. (?)

http://webvision.med.utah.edu/imageswv/spectra.jpeg


Not really. The thinking was that the molecule Rhodopsin (The G protein
involved with color vision (purple)) was not responsive to red
wavelengths and that red was naturally the best color for night vision.

As I understand it, and I'm willing to be proved wrong on this, higher
frequency red is not necessarily the best color because of that very
reason - you lose more far vision, depth perception change, color
perception with red than blue/green. The lower blue/green (ok, let's
just call it teal) can be used at higher intensity without damaging
depth perception, far vision and color sense.

That's why most instrument panels in cars and I believe aircraft, are
in the blue/green spectrum around 525 millimicrons.




Keith February 13th 07 12:05 PM

Eliminate white light........
 
Here's a good web site that discusses this is much detail.
http://stlplaces.com/night_vision.html


Short Wave Sportfishing February 13th 07 12:15 PM

Eliminate white light........
 
Keith wrote:
Here's a good web site that discusses this is much detail.

http://stlplaces.com/night_vision.html


Cool - thanks.

-rick- February 14th 07 03:41 AM

Eliminate white light........
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Keith wrote:
Here's a good web site that discusses this is much detail.

http://stlplaces.com/night_vision.html


Cool - thanks.


Very helpful, thanks!

-rick- February 14th 07 03:49 AM

Eliminate white light........
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Not really. The thinking was that the molecule Rhodopsin (The G protein
involved with color vision (purple)) was not responsive to red
wavelengths and that red was naturally the best color for night vision.

As I understand it, and I'm willing to be proved wrong on this, higher
frequency red is not necessarily the best color because of that very
reason - you lose more far vision, depth perception change, color
perception with red than blue/green. The lower blue/green (ok, let's
just call it teal) can be used at higher intensity without damaging
depth perception, far vision and color sense.

That's why most instrument panels in cars and I believe aircraft, are
in the blue/green spectrum around 525 millimicrons.



As usual I oversimplified and reality is quite a bit more
complex. Thanks for the help.

-rick-

-rick- February 15th 07 05:18 AM

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wrote:

I have my nav lights installed so you don't see them or any reflected
light in the boat and I have about 10 ohms in series with the dash
lights (YMMV). In the dark they are still visible bit not bright
enough to bother you.



The dash dimmer is a good idea.

Here's some more vision tidbits...

http://www.diycalculator.com/sp-cvision.shtml



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