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Need a Way to Wash Hand with Fresh Water
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oups.com... On Feb 6, 3:50 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in ooglegroups.com... On Feb 6, 11:29 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message . .. On 6 Feb 2007 08:47:53 -0800, "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote: On Feb 6, 9:26 am, wrote: On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:07:13 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: You cannot be serious. Please tell me this is a joke. Consider that a lot of this goofy posting is from a largely, if not totally, anonymous poster using a particularly old version of Debian Linux and associated news client..... Google up the rec.boats proponents of Debian Linux and you will have most of the usual suspects..... He seems fairly straight forward to me - I'm not sure where you developed this idea about goofy posting. Besides, as somebody who suffers from skin infections of one sort or another, it seemed like a perfectly valid question and one that deserved a appropriate answer. I'm not sure.... some of his prior questions have had such obvious answers.... it just looked suspect. Some of those questions I offered my advice. This latest one just seemed extremely obvious and, well, odd..... and then I noticed that he was using the same posting schema as the old anon-posting smithers.... made me even more suspicious.... In a cooking newsgroup, about six months ago: "Can I make lasagna at home? How?" Somewhere, these people are being stamped out like cookies.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Again, it's entirely possible that somebody doesn't know. The OP got upset when numerous people said "Go buy a box of lasagna noodles. There's a recipe on every box, always, no exceptions". I never thought I'd be like my parents, and saying "Young man, when I was your age {fill in boring historical stuff here}...", but my roommate and I went and bought a cookbook. We learned to cook. We didn't die.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I am the OP of this thread. I have never posted a question on lasagna in cooking newsgroup (I haven't done any "real" cooking for the last 5 years). I think you may have mistaken me with someone else. Moreover, this is far easier to buy a whole tray of ready-made lasagna from BJ instead of preparing it myself. Having said that, if you have found someone pretending to be me posting questions in cooking newsgroup. Please let me know the newsgroup name. I need to know this. Thanks. Jay Chan No! I was talking about a DIFFERENT person in another newsgroup. Not you. |
Need a Way to Wash Hand with Fresh Water
On Feb 7, 2:45 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 6, 1:04 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Feb 6, 6:35 am, "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote: On Feb 5, 8:11 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 5, 1:07 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... I would like to know if there is a simple device for washing hand with fresh water. My boat is a 18-ft center console that is too small for adding a sink and faucet in it; moreover, a sink and faucet is overkill for my need. I will wash my hand in sal****er, and then use freshwater as the last step to wash away the sal****er from my hand. Therefore, I only need a small amount of fresh water. I have a feeling that one- gallon of freshwater should be more than enough for several persons use in a fishing trip. I would like to know a neat way to accomplish this. What I am looking for is something works like a garden hand-pump spray bottle. Then I can put the water tank under the floor, run a short lengh of water hose to the back of the boat and connecting to a small water faucet, somehow having a small hand pump next to the faucet. When I need to use it, all I need to do is pump it several times, turn on the faucet to let out a stream of water spray to wash the sal****er away from my hand (or wash the eyeglasses), let the water to run down to the floor and get air dried or drained to the scuppers. When I am done, I simply turn off the faucet. The next guy who wants to use it probably doesn't need to pump because there should still be enough water pressure in the system. Is there such a thing available in the market? Currently, I use a one-gal water bottle and pour over my hands. But this is not neat and is not elegant. Moreover, this tends to use more water than I really need. I have thought of using a store-bought large spring water tank that has a small faucet at the bottom and use gravity to dispense the water. But this requires me to put the water tank a couple feet above the floor. I would like to put the water tank under the floor to lower the center of gravity as much as possible (afterall it is a small boat). Thanks for any pointer in advance. Jay Chan You cannot be serious. Please tell me this is a joke.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Why is it a joke? I always carry a water bottle for washing the salt from my hands after I have washed my hand in sea water. This minimizes the irritation on my skin and helps keeping the skin problem down. Of course, I also use hand cream; this is a given. I guess not everyone has this skin problem; therefore, most people probably don't understand how this feels. Let's just say that this problem is physical, not mental. That water bottle works. But it is a bit too ad-hoc and tends to use more water than needed. That's the reason why I want to find something more convenient. Jay Chan Your own perspiration contains salt.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I can understand his concern - I have a similar problem on board but related to infection as a result of my arthritis treatment. I'm more prone to infection as a result of that treatment and fresh water is much better to rinse with than salt - in particular in a harbor that has a sewer treatment near it. Or the CT River after rain which is full of...well this is a family group. What I do is carry a gallon of fresh water and use a hand sprayer - hence my advice to jay. Stick the gallon under the console and use it if I need to.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sorry to hear that you have a similar problem. I started having that problem when I got out from the college and started cooking and cleaning dishes for myself. The detergent seems to have something to do with the problem. Have your pharmacy order you a bottle of U-Lactin. CVS can get it. $10 for 16 oz. My doctor and the pharmacist were at a loss to explain why it's not stocked along with all the other skin creams. It's great stuff. Non-prescription.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That lotion seems like something that I should try, and I will pass by CVS after work anyway. Worst comes to worst, I still have a bottle of lotion that I can use, and I use a lot of lotion everyday. Thanks for the suggestion. Currently, I am using high strength prescription cream whenever the skin problem raises its ugly head. Hopefully, frequent use of hand cream can keep the problem to the minimum. Jay Chan The stuff I mentioned isn't a steroid, by the way. Its claim to fame is lactic acid.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks for the update on the lotion. You are right to point out that the lotion doesn't contan steroid. I used to come across a mail order lotion that worked like magic on my skin problem. And then later on FDA banded it because its secret ingredient was steroid, and could cause side effect after prolong use. Therefore, I am glad that the lotion that you have suggested doesn't contain steroid. Jay Chan |
Need a Way to Wash Hand with Fresh Water
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oups.com... On Feb 7, 2:45 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Feb 6, 1:04 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On Feb 6, 6:35 am, "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote: On Feb 5, 8:11 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 5, 1:07 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... I would like to know if there is a simple device for washing hand with fresh water. My boat is a 18-ft center console that is too small for adding a sink and faucet in it; moreover, a sink and faucet is overkill for my need. I will wash my hand in sal****er, and then use freshwater as the last step to wash away the sal****er from my hand. Therefore, I only need a small amount of fresh water. I have a feeling that one- gallon of freshwater should be more than enough for several persons use in a fishing trip. I would like to know a neat way to accomplish this. What I am looking for is something works like a garden hand-pump spray bottle. Then I can put the water tank under the floor, run a short lengh of water hose to the back of the boat and connecting to a small water faucet, somehow having a small hand pump next to the faucet. When I need to use it, all I need to do is pump it several times, turn on the faucet to let out a stream of water spray to wash the sal****er away from my hand (or wash the eyeglasses), let the water to run down to the floor and get air dried or drained to the scuppers. When I am done, I simply turn off the faucet. The next guy who wants to use it probably doesn't need to pump because there should still be enough water pressure in the system. Is there such a thing available in the market? Currently, I use a one-gal water bottle and pour over my hands. But this is not neat and is not elegant. Moreover, this tends to use more water than I really need. I have thought of using a store-bought large spring water tank that has a small faucet at the bottom and use gravity to dispense the water. But this requires me to put the water tank a couple feet above the floor. I would like to put the water tank under the floor to lower the center of gravity as much as possible (afterall it is a small boat). Thanks for any pointer in advance. Jay Chan You cannot be serious. Please tell me this is a joke.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Why is it a joke? I always carry a water bottle for washing the salt from my hands after I have washed my hand in sea water. This minimizes the irritation on my skin and helps keeping the skin problem down. Of course, I also use hand cream; this is a given. I guess not everyone has this skin problem; therefore, most people probably don't understand how this feels. Let's just say that this problem is physical, not mental. That water bottle works. But it is a bit too ad-hoc and tends to use more water than needed. That's the reason why I want to find something more convenient. Jay Chan Your own perspiration contains salt.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I can understand his concern - I have a similar problem on board but related to infection as a result of my arthritis treatment. I'm more prone to infection as a result of that treatment and fresh water is much better to rinse with than salt - in particular in a harbor that has a sewer treatment near it. Or the CT River after rain which is full of...well this is a family group. What I do is carry a gallon of fresh water and use a hand sprayer - hence my advice to jay. Stick the gallon under the console and use it if I need to.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sorry to hear that you have a similar problem. I started having that problem when I got out from the college and started cooking and cleaning dishes for myself. The detergent seems to have something to do with the problem. Have your pharmacy order you a bottle of U-Lactin. CVS can get it. $10 for 16 oz. My doctor and the pharmacist were at a loss to explain why it's not stocked along with all the other skin creams. It's great stuff. Non-prescription.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That lotion seems like something that I should try, and I will pass by CVS after work anyway. Worst comes to worst, I still have a bottle of lotion that I can use, and I use a lot of lotion everyday. Thanks for the suggestion. Currently, I am using high strength prescription cream whenever the skin problem raises its ugly head. Hopefully, frequent use of hand cream can keep the problem to the minimum. Jay Chan The stuff I mentioned isn't a steroid, by the way. Its claim to fame is lactic acid.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks for the update on the lotion. You are right to point out that the lotion doesn't contan steroid. I used to come across a mail order lotion that worked like magic on my skin problem. And then later on FDA banded it because its secret ingredient was steroid, and could cause side effect after prolong use. Therefore, I am glad that the lotion that you have suggested doesn't contain steroid. Jay Chan Even over the counter stuff contains steroids, like hydrocortisone. |
Need a Way to Wash Hand with Fresh Water
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Need a Way to Wash Hand with Fresh Water
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 16:09:11 -0500, BAR wrote:
wrote: On Feb 6, 1:39 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On 6 Feb 2007 10:07:47 -0800, " wrote: Sorry to hear that your sister has a similar skin problem on her hands. Mine was coming from washing dishes, and may have to do with the use of detergent. Guess what, this problem tends to run in the same family (my brother also has the same problem). This means you may develop this problem if you wash dishes without wearing gloves. My hands take abuse pretty well. When they were calloused I often cleaned them with a wire brush, diesel oil and sugar. I found it the best way to remove navy special fuel oil, which is black nasty stuff. My sister's problem did in fact manifest itself from washing dishes. She tried different dish detergents to no avail. She now uses an automatic dishwasher and that has essentially solved her problem. Anyway, I have found several hand-powered marine water pump fixtures in one of the marine supply store. Somehow, they are not as inexpensive as what I thought. In fact, they cost more or less the same as a simple electric water pump fixture. I guess I may have to go for the simple electric water pump instead of the hand powered version that I originally looked for. Oh well; but at least I have a choice :) Well, if I wanted to do what you first asked about, I would take the electric pump approach I first suggested. You can have a container holding quite a few gallons of fresh water tucked out of the way, with only a nozzle and switch to tangle your fishing line on. Of course you've got to run the wires and rubber tubing out of the way. Personally I would just use squeeze bottles, or a cooler jug with a turn spigot to meter the water handlessly. With the spigot you can rinse your hands normally, as you would do under a faucet. The jug positioning/attachment would be the major issue. But since I don't have your particular problem or boat it's hard to judge what's best. Good luck. --Vic --Vic Thanks for the suggestion. I am leaning toward using the simplest electric pump with a tiny faucet as what you have suggested. Originally I thought of using a hand powered pump. But the available models are not cheaper than the simplest electric pump and have more "things" sticking out in comparison to the electric model. Windshield washer reservoir and pump. Works off of 12 volts. Find the size you want and afix it to your boat, install a switch and attach it to the power buss. Probably pick one up at a junk yard for almost nothing. -- ***** Have a super day! ***** John H |
Need a Way to Wash Hand with Fresh Water
Hello Jay,
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Need a Way to Wash Hand with Fresh Water
Did a 'foot pump' search on eBay and got item# 190080026837
(windshield washer pump). Sounds good to me. Put the jug where you want, put the nozzle where you want, and stomp on the pump. (Remembered the pump in a portajohn.) Den YF48 |
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Need a Way to Wash Hand with Fresh Water
On Feb 7, 4:09 pm, BAR wrote:
wrote: On Feb 6, 1:39 pm, Vic Smith wrote: On 6 Feb 2007 10:07:47 -0800, " wrote: Sorry to hear that your sister has a similar skin problem on her hands. Mine was coming from washing dishes, and may have to do with the use of detergent. Guess what, this problem tends to run in the same family (my brother also has the same problem). This means you may develop this problem if you wash dishes without wearing gloves. My hands take abuse pretty well. When they were calloused I often cleaned them with a wire brush, diesel oil and sugar. I found it the best way to remove navy special fuel oil, which is black nasty stuff. My sister's problem did in fact manifest itself from washing dishes. She tried different dish detergents to no avail. She now uses an automatic dishwasher and that has essentially solved her problem. Anyway, I have found several hand-powered marine water pump fixtures in one of the marine supply store. Somehow, they are not as inexpensive as what I thought. In fact, they cost more or less the same as a simple electric water pump fixture. I guess I may have to go for the simple electric water pump instead of the hand powered version that I originally looked for. Oh well; but at least I have a choice :) Well, if I wanted to do what you first asked about, I would take the electric pump approach I first suggested. You can have a container holding quite a few gallons of fresh water tucked out of the way, with only a nozzle and switch to tangle your fishing line on. Of course you've got to run the wires and rubber tubing out of the way. Personally I would just use squeeze bottles, or a cooler jug with a turn spigot to meter the water handlessly. With the spigot you can rinse your hands normally, as you would do under a faucet. The jug positioning/attachment would be the major issue. But since I don't have your particular problem or boat it's hard to judge what's best. Good luck. --Vic --Vic Thanks for the suggestion. I am leaning toward using the simplest electric pump with a tiny faucet as what you have suggested. Originally I thought of using a hand powered pump. But the available models are not cheaper than the simplest electric pump and have more "things" sticking out in comparison to the electric model. Windshield washer reservoir and pump. Works off of 12 volts. Find the size you want and afix it to your boat, install a switch and attach it to the power buss.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks for the very "out of the box" solution. I will see if I can find one. Jay Chan |
Need a Way to Wash Hand with Fresh Water
On Feb 8, 7:34 am, "den" wrote:
Den again: http://www.toico.com/sinkparts.html a "Baby Whale Foot Pump" Den 48YF Thanks for the great suggestion! That web site seems to have a lot of low cost hand powered water pumps and faucets. I have a feeling that they are selling their products for general purpose use instead of for marine environment; this explains the reason why they cost much less than what I find in marine supply store. I guess this should be OK because I am supposed to use it to pump freshwater from a freshwater tank, not sal****er, and I park my boat in the driveway, not leaving it in the slip. Moreover, those that I find in marine supply store are not stainless steel anyway (chrome-plated may be brass or aluminum). Jay Chan |
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