Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

I have a 2004 SeaRay 260 w/ AlpahIII out drive and Mercruiser Gas
Engine. Looking to step up in size, 35-37ft. SeaRay is Caddillac of
Bruswick Boats with Maxum being the Pontiac and BayLiner being the
Chevy. Where does Cruisers Yachts Fit in terms of Quality?
I have no real issues w/ SeaRay but I do like the layouts of the
Cruisers a bit more. Also wondering if i should step up to Diesels in
stead of gas.

Thoughts?

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

On Jan 29, 7:23?am, wrote:
I have a 2004 SeaRay 260 w/ AlpahIII out drive and Mercruiser Gas
Engine. Looking to step up in size, 35-37ft. SeaRay is Caddillac of
Bruswick Boats with Maxum being the Pontiac and BayLiner being the
Chevy. Where does Cruisers Yachts Fit in terms of Quality?
I have no real issues w/ SeaRay but I do like the layouts of the
Cruisers a bit more. Also wondering if i should step up to Diesels in
stead of gas.

Thoughts?

If you plan to use your boat more than just a few times a year the
potentially extended longevity of a diesel, the improved fuel economy,
stronger resale value, and potentially lower maintenance costs (no
electrical tune-ups) would be an excellent choice on a 35-37 foot
boat. It probably takes the average pleasure boater 7-10 years to
'recover' the additional investment in diesels, so if you're one of
these boaters who has to buy a new boat every 2-3 years you might
consider gas. Gas will resell for less than diesel, but the hit for
gas engines at resale time is less than the upcharge for diesel when
new.

With many boat builders choosing very high reving, small block diesels
these days, the old concept that a diesel will always outlast a gas
engine is not as absolute as it used to be. If you can choose a diesel
with no more than about 2HP per c.i.d you have a better chance of
seeing 4-5,000 hours (lucky people sometimes get a little more) before
rebuild.

I can't tell from your question whether or not you're under the
impression that a Cruisers Inc. is a Brunswick product. It isn't.
(Unless Brunswick went on another shopping spree that I failed to
notice). It wouldn't be ridiculous for a knowledgeable boater to
compare Cruisers with Sea Ray, Meridian, or Maxum.
Because people prioritize different aspects of a boat, it's almost
impossible to
objectively and definitively state that "Any brand X boat is better
than any brand Y boat." You will find people very satisfied with every
one of those brands, and quite a number will have a specific and
personally valid reason for the choice they made. Other people will
have chosed something else for equally valid reason.

When people knock a boat, it is often due to one small detail or
another that they found personally off-putting. Example, "Did you
notice the small deck cleats they used on this year's Brand Z? I think
those cleats are crap. Obviously the entire boat has to be crap if
they are going to use small deck cleats!" Of course the industry
promotes this exact sort of thinking, as Brand A will install almost
oversized cleats one year and then train all Brand A salespeople to
pitch cleat size as a good barometer of overall build quality.
'Twas ever thus, and probably always will be.

Pick the model you find the most personally appealing and consider the
best value. Any of the boats you're considering should easily prove
stout and safe enough for decades of wonderful pleasure cruising.
(Don't worry about resale value, as just like they say in the
financial services commercials "past performance is no guarantee of
future results". There's no telling how the fickle public will feel
about one brand name or another in a few years. You're going to take a
bath in a short term resale no matter what brand you wind up with.)

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

Great advice. However, Given the water depth at my pier, i need the
flexibilty of out-drives for minimizing draft at low-tides.

On Jan 29, 10:23 am, wrote:
I have a 2004 SeaRay 260 w/ AlpahIII out drive and Mercruiser Gas
Engine. Looking to step up in size, 35-37ft. SeaRay is Caddillac of
Bruswick Boats with Maxum being the Pontiac and BayLiner being the
Chevy. Where doesCruisers YachtsFit in terms of Quality?
I have no real issues w/ SeaRay but I do like the layouts of the
Cruisers a bit more. Also wondering if i should step up to Diesels in
stead of gas.

Thoughts?

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

On Jan 29, 10:52 am, "Chuck Gould" wrote:
On Jan 29, 7:23?am, wrote:

I have a 2004 SeaRay 260 w/ AlpahIII out drive and Mercruiser Gas
Engine. Looking to step up in size, 35-37ft. SeaRay is Caddillac of
Bruswick Boats with Maxum being the Pontiac and BayLiner being the
Chevy. Where doesCruisers YachtsFit in terms of Quality?
I have no real issues w/ SeaRay but I do like the layouts of the
Cruisers a bit more. Also wondering if i should step up to Diesels in
stead of gas.

Thoughts?If you plan to use your boat more than just a few times a year the
potentially extended longevity of a diesel, the improved fuel economy,
stronger resale value, and potentially lower maintenance costs (no
electrical tune-ups) would be an excellent choice on a 35-37 foot
boat. It probably takes the average pleasure boater 7-10 years to
'recover' the additional investment in diesels, so if you're one of
these boaters who has to buy a new boat every 2-3 years you might
consider gas. Gas will resell for less than diesel, but the hit for
gas engines at resale time is less than the upcharge for diesel when
new.

With many boat builders choosing very high reving, small block diesels
these days, the old concept that a diesel will always outlast a gas
engine is not as absolute as it used to be. If you can choose a diesel
with no more than about 2HP per c.i.d you have a better chance of
seeing 4-5,000 hours (lucky people sometimes get a little more) before
rebuild.

I can't tell from your question whether or not you're under the
impression that a Cruisers Inc. is a Brunswick product. It isn't.
(Unless Brunswick went on another shopping spree that I failed to
notice). It wouldn't be ridiculous for a knowledgeable boater to
compare Cruisers with Sea Ray, Meridian, or Maxum.
Because people prioritize different aspects of a boat, it's almost
impossible to
objectively and definitively state that "Any brand X boat is better
than any brand Y boat." You will find people very satisfied with every
one of those brands, and quite a number will have a specific and
personally valid reason for the choice they made. Other people will
have chosed something else for equally valid reason.

When people knock a boat, it is often due to one small detail or
another that they found personally off-putting. Example, "Did you
notice the small deck cleats they used on this year's Brand Z? I think
those cleats are crap. Obviously the entire boat has to be crap if
they are going to use small deck cleats!" Of course the industry
promotes this exact sort of thinking, as Brand A will install almost
oversized cleats one year and then train all Brand A salespeople to
pitch cleat size as a good barometer of overall build quality.
'Twas ever thus, and probably always will be.

Pick the model you find the most personally appealing and consider the
best value. Any of the boats you're considering should easily prove
stout and safe enough for decades of wonderful pleasure cruising.
(Don't worry about resale value, as just like they say in the
financial services commercials "past performance is no guarantee of
future results". There's no telling how the fickle public will feel
about one brand name or another in a few years. You're going to take a
bath in a short term resale no matter what brand you wind up with.)


I agree w/ everything you said. Well stated. I know that Cruisers is
not part of Brunswick. I'm just curious how the brand is percieved to
the knowledgeable boating public. When looking at my SeaRay, i felt
from a quality stand point that it was a tad short in that area.
Nothing serious, but little things that when what you paid is
considered, you feelt like they should have stepped it up a bit. I am
under the impression that Cruisers is regarded as either on-par or
slightly better than that of the SeaRay Brand - is this accurate?

I keep my boat out of the water on my pier on Kent Island Maryland,
Salt Water for sure. Looking to get fresh water cooled. I have to go
w/ I/Os to minimize draft as i have less than 3 feet of water at low
tide. When you take the lift I-Beam and bunks into account, that easts
up 15 inches or so. Every inch is critical if i want to get my boat
off the lift at low tide.

For me, re-sale is not a factor and the only reason i am buing a "new"
boat after 3+ years is that I want a bigger one. My first was a
"test" to see if i would use it enough to jusitfy the coast. If I had
deeper water, I'd most likely step up to a boat with 12' beam.

Thanks for the advice

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

On Jan 29, 11:03�am, wrote:
On Jan 29, 10:52 am, "Chuck Gould" wrote:





On Jan 29, 7:23?am, wrote:

I have a 2004 SeaRay 260 w/ AlpahIII out drive and Mercruiser Gas
Engine. Looking to step up in size, 35-37ft. SeaRay is Caddillac of
Bruswick Boats with Maxum being the Pontiac and BayLiner being the
Chevy. Where doesCruisers YachtsFit in terms of Quality?
I have no real issues w/ SeaRay but I do like the layouts of the
Cruisers a bit more. Also wondering if i should step up to Diesels in
stead of gas.

Thoughts?If you plan to use your boat more than just a few times a year the
potentially extended longevity of a diesel, the improved fuel economy,
stronger resale value, and potentially lower maintenance costs (no
electrical tune-ups) would be an excellent choice on a 35-37 foot
boat. It probably takes the average pleasure boater 7-10 years to
'recover' the additional investment in diesels, so if you're one of
these boaters who has to buy a new boat every 2-3 years you might
consider gas. Gas will resell for less than diesel, but the hit for
gas engines at resale time is less than the upcharge for diesel when
new.

With many boat builders choosing very high reving, small block diesels
these days, the old concept that a diesel will always outlast a gas
engine is not as absolute as it used to be. If you can choose a diesel
with no more than about 2HP per c.i.d you have a better chance of
seeing 4-5,000 hours (lucky people sometimes get a little more) before
rebuild.

I can't tell from your question whether or not you're under the
impression that a Cruisers Inc. is a Brunswick product. It isn't.
(Unless Brunswick went on another shopping spree that I failed to
notice). It wouldn't be ridiculous for a knowledgeable boater to
compare Cruisers with Sea Ray, Meridian, or Maxum.
Because people prioritize different aspects of a boat, it's almost
impossible to
objectively and definitively state that "Any brand X boat is better
than any brand Y boat." You will find people very satisfied with every
one of those brands, and quite a number will have a specific and
personally valid reason for the choice they made. Other people will
have chosed something else for equally valid reason.

When people knock a boat, it is often due to one small detail or
another that they found personally off-putting. Example, "Did you
notice the small deck cleats they used on this year's Brand Z? I think
those cleats are crap. Obviously the entire boat has to be crap if
they are going to use small deck cleats!" Of course the industry
promotes this exact sort of thinking, as Brand A will install almost
oversized cleats one year and then train all Brand A salespeople to
pitch cleat size as a good barometer of overall build quality.
'Twas ever thus, and probably always will be.

Pick the model you find the most personally appealing and consider the
best value. Any of the boats you're considering should easily prove
stout and safe enough for decades of wonderful pleasure cruising.
(Don't worry about resale value, as just like they say in the
financial services commercials "past performance is no guarantee of
future results". There's no telling how the fickle public will feel
about one brand name or another in a few years. You're going to take a
bath in a short term resale no matter what brand you wind up with.)I agree w/ everything you said. Well stated. *I know that Cruisers is
not part of Brunswick. I'm just curious how the brand is percieved to
the knowledgeable boating public. When looking at my SeaRay, i felt
from a quality stand point that it was a tad short in that area.
Nothing serious, but little things that when what you paid is
considered, you feelt like they should have stepped it up a bit. I am
under the impression that Cruisers is regarded as either on-par or
slightly better than that of the SeaRay Brand - is this accurate?

I keep my boat out of the water on my pier on Kent Island Maryland,
Salt Water for sure. Looking to get fresh water cooled. I have to go
w/ I/Os to minimize draft as i have less than 3 feet of water at low
tide. When you take the lift I-Beam and bunks into account, that easts
up 15 inches or so. *Every inch is critical if i want to get my boat
off the lift at low tide.

For me, re-sale is not a factor and the only reason i am buing a "new"
boat after 3+ years is that I want a bigger one. *My first was a
"test" to see if i would use it enough to jusitfy the coast. If I had
deeper water, I'd most likely step up to a boat with 12' beam.

Thanks for the advice- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -


From what I have seen, first hand, of both Sea Ray and Cruisers I
would say there is no reason to avoid either boat. If there are some
aspects of the Cruisers that subjectively appeal to you more than the
Sea Ray, that will be at least as important as any minor technical
differences. In almost every case when you compare two pretty good
boats you can make a list of a few things that Brand A does better
than Brand B, and then make another list of what Brand B does better
than Brand A. Depending on how much a person individually prioritizes
the Brand A or Brand B advantages, one boat or the other may seem like
an obvious choice.

There is no real answer to the question: "What do boaters in general
think of Sea Ray vs Cruisers." They're both good boats, but if
everybody agreed that one was always better than the other they
wouldn't both be able to remain in business. People studying the
choice to death could arrive at different conclusions for valid
reasons.

More people are probably familiar with Sea Ray than with Cruisers, so
more people might be comfortable endorsing that choice- but that
should have nothing to do with an informed decision of which boat is
the best choice for you to make, with your money, for your family's
pleasure.

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

On Jan 29, 3:04 pm, Harry Krause wrote:
On Jan 29, 11:03?am, wrote:There have been some serious evaluations of larger SeaRays showing
significant shortcomings in hull fiberglass builds. If you haven't found
these yourself, I can probably retrieve them.

Yes, i have seen these. There are also skeptics on the Cruisers as
built w/ Balsa below the water line. Not sure what the answer is. For
my situation, we use the boat in the chesapeak bay and tributaries and
are always w/in sight of land. If i was cruising 40 miles off-shore, i
might have a different feeling about what is below the water line!

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
I have a 2004 SeaRay 260 w/ AlpahIII out drive and Mercruiser Gas
Engine. Looking to step up in size, 35-37ft. SeaRay is Caddillac of
Bruswick Boats with Maxum being the Pontiac and BayLiner being the
Chevy. Where does Cruisers Yachts Fit in terms of Quality?
I have no real issues w/ SeaRay but I do like the layouts of the
Cruisers a bit more. Also wondering if i should step up to Diesels in
stead of gas.

Thoughts?



Have you also looked at Regal and Maxum (a SeaRay without the *Bling*)?

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

On boatered.com/forum/ there is a thread in the cruisers forum that you may
find interesting. It is not pretty and may not be typical but I recomment
you have a look.

As to outdrives. Given the cost of the boat you are comtemplating you
should consider changing marinas if the depth of your marina will not allow
you to use a conventionally propped boat. I think you'll find that a boat
of that size will be very difficult to sell on the used market when the time
for that inevitably comes.

Butch
"JimH" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
I have a 2004 SeaRay 260 w/ AlpahIII out drive and Mercruiser Gas
Engine. Looking to step up in size, 35-37ft. SeaRay is Caddillac of
Bruswick Boats with Maxum being the Pontiac and BayLiner being the
Chevy. Where does Cruisers Yachts Fit in terms of Quality?
I have no real issues w/ SeaRay but I do like the layouts of the
Cruisers a bit more. Also wondering if i should step up to Diesels in
stead of gas.

Thoughts?



Have you also looked at Regal and Maxum (a SeaRay without the *Bling*)?

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

On 29 Jan 2007 07:52:45 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

If you plan to use your boat more than just a few times a year the
potentially extended longevity of a diesel, the improved fuel economy,
stronger resale value, and potentially lower maintenance costs (no
electrical tune-ups) would be an excellent choice on a 35-37 foot
boat. It probably takes the average pleasure boater 7-10 years to
'recover' the additional investment in diesels, so if you're one of
these boaters who has to buy a new boat every 2-3 years you might
consider gas.

One of the most significant advantages of diesels, and one of the most
difficult to quantify, is increased range. Given the same tankage,
diesel engines will almost double the range per fill up. This can
allow more extended cruising and fishing, and can also result in
greater economy at the pump since you have more options to fuel up at
the location of your choice.

The tipping point is somewhere around 15,000 lbs of displacement.
Above that it is difficult to get decent performance with gas engines
without also incurring excessive fuel consumption.

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

On 29 Jan 2007 11:03:46 -0800, wrote:

I have to go
w/ I/Os to minimize draft as i have less than 3 feet of water at low
tide. When you take the lift I-Beam and bunks into account, that easts
up 15 inches or so. Every inch is critical if i want to get my boat
off the lift at low tide.

We have many of the same issues here in SWFL. It is relatively easy
to remove some of the material under your lift. Talk to your local
dock builder for some ideas.

Many people around here take their boat off the lift at high tide and
tie it further out.

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

On 29 Jan 2007 13:00:09 -0800, wrote:

If i was cruising 40 miles off-shore, i
might have a different feeling about what is below the water line!

The real issue with balsa below the water line is long term
durability, and what happens when you hit something. Neither answer
is particularly good.

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

As to outdrives. Given the cost of the boat you are comtemplating you
should consider changing marinas if the depth of your marina will not
allow
you to use a conventionally propped boat.

Check the thread. It's his own pier on Kent Island.

But regardless of which type of drive, you're going to be hard-pressed to
keep anything over 30' in three feet of water. Jet drive boats like the
Hinckley's being the exception, but prepare for sticker shock.

I think you'll find that a boat
of that size will be very difficult to sell on the used market when the
time
for that inevitably comes.

Diesel in boats over 34' certainly do seem to sell faster on the used
market. I wouldn't go so far as calling it 'difficult' to sell a larger gas
powered boat. But when you get into the 37' and up range you really do
benefit from the torque the diesels have to offer.

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

BLASPHEMY!!!
JR
wrote:

SeaRay is Caddillac of
Bruswick Boats with Maxum being the Pontiac and BayLiner being the
Chevy.


--
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Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth

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On Jan 29, 12:04?pm, Harry Krause wrote:
On Jan 29, 11:03?am, wrote:

There have been some serious evaluations of larger SeaRays showing
significant shortcomings in hull fiberglass builds. If you haven't found
these yourself, I can probably retrieve them.

I hope you're not referring to the bogus nonsense posted by David
Pascoe........

If so, my favorite shot is the one where the failed backyard repair,
(looks like automotive bondo) is represented as typical OEM
construction

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

On Jan 29, 1:00?pm, wrote:
On Jan 29, 3:04 pm, Harry Krause wrote:

On Jan 29, 11:03?am, wrote:There have been some serious evaluations of larger SeaRays showing
significant shortcomings in hull fiberglass builds. If you haven't found
these yourself, I can probably retrieve them.

Yes, i have seen these. There are also skeptics on the Cruisers as
built w/ Balsa below the water line. Not sure what the answer is. For
my situation, we use the boat in the chesapeak bay and tributaries and
are always w/in sight of land. If i was cruising 40 miles off-shore, i
might have a different feeling about what is below the water line!

If you look at a boat with balsa coring, make sure that there are FRP
fairing blocks for through hulls, etc. Should be. That will minimize a
lot of the problems than can result from a cored hull, and be cautious
about just drilling holes willy nilly in the future. Some multi-
million-dollar mega yachts use balsa coring in the hull, so there are
schools of thought that go beyond "Balsa coring is always bad news".

As far as the oft cited concern: "If you run up onto a rock and punch
a hole in the bottom you are going to get the balsa coring wet",
remember that if you run up onto a rock and punch a hole in the bottom
you are going to be spending some serious do-re-mi, (yours or the
insurance company's) to get things fixed again. Part of a proper fix
would be removing and replacing any coring that was damaged or became
wet as a result of the breach.

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

On 29 Jan 2007 21:09:22 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

I hope you're not referring to the bogus nonsense posted by David
Pascoe........

If so, my favorite shot is the one where the failed backyard repair,
(looks like automotive bondo) is represented as typical OEM
construction

Pascoe may not be that far off the mark. I've known quite a few
owners of balsa cored boats who have experienced *serious* structural
issues. These are boats that were designed for off shore sailing and
built by reputable folks. Very few of them last more than 10 or 15
years.

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

On Jan 29, 10:28�pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On 29 Jan 2007 21:09:22 -0800, "Chuck Gould"

wrote:
I hope you're not referring to the bogus nonsense posted by David
Pascoe........

If so, my favorite shot is the one where the failed backyard repair,
(looks like automotive bondo) is represented as typical OEM
construction

Pascoe may not be that far off the mark. *I've known quite a few
owners of balsa cored boats who have experienced *serious* structural
issues. *These are boats that were designed for off shore sailing and
built by reputable folks. *Very few of them last more than 10 or 15
years.

Pascoe claims that most fiberglass boats are built over cores
consisting of junk materials and putty-type fillers. He doesn't
concentrate on balsa.

http://yachtsurvey.com/Fiberglass_Boats.htm


The 3rd and 4th photos on that page obviously show failed repairs. Why
would the builder randomly toss a section of junk putty into the
laminate, and how could you possbily continue the layup of a boat
(from the outside in) and leave trowel marks on the *outside edge* the
bondo?

The Sea Ray that he shows in that item is 16 years out of date.
According to the dates he has written on the scraps in the upper left
photo, it's a 1991.

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

Chuck Gould wrote:


The Sea Ray that he shows in that item is 16 years out of date.
According to the dates he has written on the scraps in the upper left
photo, it's a 1991.


Most likely the SeaRay in the photo was built in the 80's. As Chuck
eluded to, all mfg'ers have made substantial changes in their mfg'er
process since then. It would not be prudent to make your buying
decisions upon upon 20 yr old data. That being said I would be hesitant
to buy a less expensive boat with balsa core hull below the water line.
If so, I would want to verify that all thru holes and high stress
areas, such as stanchions are solid fiberglass and are reinforced with a
backing plate. Cruiser online sales info, went out of their way to
discuss the metal reinforcing plate on their high stress areas, but did
not mention solid glass around their thru holes. I would contact
Cruisers directly to verify that info.

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

I did a lot of research before buying my last new boat. SeaRay's were
vastly overpriced, but good boats. It came down to either a Cruisers,
Inc. 3950 aft cabin or a Carver that was about the same size and
configuration. I went around to the shipyards and surveyers in my
area, and hands down, everyone recommended the Cruisers. Very good
construction, well made, "built like a Hatteras" was one of the
comments. I bought it and was very happy with it until sold. They have
a good reputation, and the factory was very helpful when needed. That
all being said, the local dealer was crap, and is now out of business.
If you're buying new, the local dealer is at least as important as the
boat, since they assemble it on site and do all the warranty work.
Check them out as well.

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

On 30 Jan 2007 14:07:13 -0800, wrote:

On Jan 29, 7:13 pm, "Butch Davis" wrote:
On boatered.com/forum/ there is a thread in the cruisers forum that you may
find interesting. It is not pretty and may not be typical but I recomment
you have a look.

As to outdrives. Given the cost of the boat you are comtemplating you
should consider changing marinas if the depth of your marina will not allow
you to use a conventionally propped boat. I think you'll find that a boat
of that size will be very difficult to sell on the used market when the time
for that inevitably comes.

Butch"JimH" wrote in message

...





wrote in message
roups.com...
I have a 2004 SeaRay 260 w/ AlpahIII out drive and Mercruiser Gas
Engine. Looking to step up in size, 35-37ft. SeaRay is Caddillac of
Bruswick Boats with Maxum being the Pontiac and BayLiner being the
Chevy. Where does Cruisers Yachts Fit in terms of Quality?
I have no real issues w/ SeaRay but I do like the layouts of the
Cruisers a bit more. Also wondering if i should step up to Diesels in
stead of gas.

Thoughts?

Have you also looked at Regal and Maxum (a SeaRay without the *Bling*)?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Jim, my marina is my house!

JimH tends to overlook a lot while reading.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

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wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jan 29, 7:13 pm, "Butch Davis" wrote:
On boatered.com/forum/ there is a thread in the cruisers forum that you
may
find interesting. It is not pretty and may not be typical but I
recomment
you have a look.

As to outdrives. Given the cost of the boat you are comtemplating you
should consider changing marinas if the depth of your marina will not
allow
you to use a conventionally propped boat. I think you'll find that a
boat
of that size will be very difficult to sell on the used market when the
time
for that inevitably comes.

Butch"JimH" wrote in message

...





wrote in message
roups.com...
I have a 2004 SeaRay 260 w/ AlpahIII out drive and Mercruiser Gas
Engine. Looking to step up in size, 35-37ft. SeaRay is Caddillac of
Bruswick Boats with Maxum being the Pontiac and BayLiner being the
Chevy. Where does Cruisers Yachts Fit in terms of Quality?
I have no real issues w/ SeaRay but I do like the layouts of the
Cruisers a bit more. Also wondering if i should step up to Diesels in
stead of gas.

Thoughts?

Have you also looked at Regal and Maxum (a SeaRay without the
*Bling*)?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Jim, my marina is my house!


I think you are replying to Butch's post, not mine.

Good luck with the search!

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

I'm the guilty party espousing a change in marina. Sorry! However, I still
feel it'll be difficult to sell a large boat with outdrives when the time
comes.

Butch
"JLH" wrote in message
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On 30 Jan 2007 14:07:13 -0800, wrote:

On Jan 29, 7:13 pm, "Butch Davis" wrote:
On boatered.com/forum/ there is a thread in the cruisers forum that you
may
find interesting. It is not pretty and may not be typical but I
recomment
you have a look.

As to outdrives. Given the cost of the boat you are comtemplating you
should consider changing marinas if the depth of your marina will not
allow
you to use a conventionally propped boat. I think you'll find that a
boat
of that size will be very difficult to sell on the used market when the
time
for that inevitably comes.

Butch"JimH" wrote in message

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I have a 2004 SeaRay 260 w/ AlpahIII out drive and Mercruiser Gas
Engine. Looking to step up in size, 35-37ft. SeaRay is Caddillac of
Bruswick Boats with Maxum being the Pontiac and BayLiner being the
Chevy. Where does Cruisers Yachts Fit in terms of Quality?
I have no real issues w/ SeaRay but I do like the layouts of the
Cruisers a bit more. Also wondering if i should step up to Diesels in
stead of gas.

Thoughts?

Have you also looked at Regal and Maxum (a SeaRay without the
*Bling*)?- Hide quoted text -

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Jim, my marina is my house!

JimH tends to overlook a lot while reading.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

"Butch Davis" wrote in message
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I'm the guilty party espousing a change in marina. Sorry! However, I
still feel it'll be difficult to sell a large boat with outdrives when the
time comes.

Butch
"JLH" wrote in message
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On 30 Jan 2007 14:07:13 -0800, wrote:

On Jan 29, 7:13 pm, "Butch Davis" wrote:
On boatered.com/forum/ there is a thread in the cruisers forum that you
may
find interesting. It is not pretty and may not be typical but I
recomment
you have a look.

As to outdrives. Given the cost of the boat you are comtemplating you
should consider changing marinas if the depth of your marina will not
allow
you to use a conventionally propped boat. I think you'll find that a
boat
of that size will be very difficult to sell on the used market when the
time
for that inevitably comes.

Butch"JimH" wrote in message

...





wrote in message
roups.com...
I have a 2004 SeaRay 260 w/ AlpahIII out drive and Mercruiser Gas
Engine. Looking to step up in size, 35-37ft. SeaRay is Caddillac of
Bruswick Boats with Maxum being the Pontiac and BayLiner being the
Chevy. Where does Cruisers Yachts Fit in terms of Quality?
I have no real issues w/ SeaRay but I do like the layouts of the
Cruisers a bit more. Also wondering if i should step up to Diesels
in
stead of gas.

Thoughts?

Have you also looked at Regal and Maxum (a SeaRay without the
*Bling*)?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Jim, my marina is my house!

JimH tends to overlook a lot while reading.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

"Butch Davis" wrote in message
link.net...
I'm the guilty party espousing a change in marina. Sorry! However, I
still feel it'll be difficult to sell a large boat with outdrives when the
time comes.

Butch
"JLH" wrote in message
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On 30 Jan 2007 14:07:13 -0800, wrote:

On Jan 29, 7:13 pm, "Butch Davis" wrote:
On boatered.com/forum/ there is a thread in the cruisers forum that you
may
find interesting. It is not pretty and may not be typical but I
recomment
you have a look.

As to outdrives. Given the cost of the boat you are comtemplating you
should consider changing marinas if the depth of your marina will not
allow
you to use a conventionally propped boat. I think you'll find that a
boat
of that size will be very difficult to sell on the used market when the
time
for that inevitably comes.

Butch"JimH" wrote in message

...





wrote in message
roups.com...
I have a 2004 SeaRay 260 w/ AlpahIII out drive and Mercruiser Gas
Engine. Looking to step up in size, 35-37ft. SeaRay is Caddillac of
Bruswick Boats with Maxum being the Pontiac and BayLiner being the
Chevy. Where does Cruisers Yachts Fit in terms of Quality?
I have no real issues w/ SeaRay but I do like the layouts of the
Cruisers a bit more. Also wondering if i should step up to Diesels
in
stead of gas.

Thoughts?

Have you also looked at Regal and Maxum (a SeaRay without the
*Bling*)?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Jim, my marina is my house!

JimH tends to overlook a lot while reading.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


I'm the guilty party espousing a change in marina. Sorry! However, I
still feel it'll be difficult to sell a large boat with outdrives when the
time comes.

Butch

John Herring/JLH tends to overlook a lot while reading. ;-)

Searay vs Cruisers-Yachts-Inc.
 

If you're buying new, the local dealer is at least as important as the
boat, since they assemble it on site and do all the warranty work.
Check them out as well.

Well, they do assemble a number of things after taking delivery from the
manufacturer. So you definitely want to make sure they've got their act
together for doing stuff like that. Ask to see how your model of boat comes
delivered. Be wary of how things are added aftermarket. Anything putting a
hole through the hull damn well better be done right. You don't want to get
stuck in the middle of a ****ing match between a half-ass dealer install of
something and the manufacturer's warranty on the hull.