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Tim January 23rd 07 11:49 PM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 
Well, i come home, and key in to rec boats, and looks like google has
completely changed its format. I'm not against change, but this I
dont' care for. supposedly "new and improved" but harder to navigate.

I don't like it. Dont' like it one bit? Anybody else out there use
Google? Anybody else disatisfied?


Vic Smith January 24th 07 12:03 AM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 
On 23 Jan 2007 15:49:45 -0800, "Tim" wrote:

Well, i come home, and key in to rec boats, and looks like google has
completely changed its format. I'm not against change, but this I
dont' care for. supposedly "new and improved" but harder to navigate.

I don't like it. Dont' like it one bit? Anybody else out there use
Google? Anybody else disatisfied?


I guess it dissatisfies me, since I don't use it except for searching.
You probably heard it before, get a newsreader.

--Vic

Bernie The Bolt January 24th 07 12:48 AM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:37:49 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On 23 Jan 2007 15:49:45 -0800, Tim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

Well, i come home, and key in to rec boats, and looks like google has
completely changed its format. I'm not against change, but this I
dont' care for. supposedly "new and improved" but harder to navigate.

I don't like it. Dont' like it one bit? Anybody else out there use
Google? Anybody else disatisfied?


You get what you pay for....

try Forte Agent....


In fact try Free Forte Agent and you can get what you DON'T pay for!

Bernie The Bolt
--
'Ever****e and manure joint hate the pair of then both teams full of
gob****es and a neville in both tw-ts.'

Tim January 24th 07 01:30 AM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 


try Forte Agent....In fact try Free Forte Agent and you can get what you DON'T pay for!


Bernie The Bolt



With Forte Agent, can you get Binaries?


D.Duck January 24th 07 01:37 AM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 

"Tim" wrote in message
ups.com...


try Forte Agent....In fact try Free Forte Agent and you can get what you
DON'T pay for!


Bernie The Bolt



With Forte Agent, can you get Binaries?



Yes



Tim January 24th 07 01:52 AM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 
LOL!

Sorry ugys, I'm a tightwad when it comes to NG's, I see with Forte it
costs $29 and change.

your right. You DO get what you pay for. But I still liked the older
format better.....

On Jan 23, 7:43*pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On 23 Jan 2007 17:30:36 -0800, Tim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:



try Forte Agent....In fact try Free Forte Agent and you can get what you DON'T pay for!


Bernie The Bolt


With Forte Agent, can you get Binaries?Yes.http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.php


--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *



Calif Bill January 24th 07 02:11 AM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 

"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
LOL!

Sorry ugys, I'm a tightwad when it comes to NG's, I see with Forte it
costs $29 and change.

your right. You DO get what you pay for. But I still liked the older
format better.....

On Jan 23, 7:43pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On 23 Jan 2007 17:30:36 -0800, Tim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:



try Forte Agent....In fact try Free Forte Agent and you can get what
you DON'T pay for!


Bernie The Bolt


With Forte Agent, can you get
Binaries?Yes.http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.php


--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats


Look at Free agent. Price is free. Not all the options of agent for $29.
You do need to have newsgroup available from your ISP.



Reginald P. Smithers III January 24th 07 02:29 AM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 
Tim wrote:
LOL!

Sorry ugys, I'm a tightwad when it comes to NG's, I see with Forte it
costs $29 and change.

your right. You DO get what you pay for. But I still liked the older
format better.....

On Jan 23, 7:43�pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On 23 Jan 2007 17:30:36 -0800, Tim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:



try Forte Agent....In fact try Free Forte Agent and you can get what you DON'T pay for!
Bernie The Bolt
With Forte Agent, can you get Binaries?Yes.http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.php

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/� � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � �

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats� � � � � � � � � � � � � � �



Download Thunderbird for free.

Tim January 24th 07 03:27 AM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 
What did I do wrong Reggie.

i signed up for a hotmail acct, and went through the usual channels (I
thought) and went to newsgroups, typed in rec.boats, and here I am,
right back on Google.

where did I mess up?



On Jan 23, 8:29*pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Tim wrote:
LOL!


Sorry ugys, I'm a tightwad when it comes to NG's, I see with Forte it
costs $29 and change.


your right. You DO get what you pay for. But I still liked the older
format better.....


On Jan 23, 7:43?pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On 23 Jan 2007 17:30:36 -0800, Tim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


try Forte Agent....In fact try Free Forte Agent and you can get what you DON'T pay for!
Bernie The Bolt
With Forte Agent, can you get Binaries?Yes.http://www.forteinc.com/agent/index.php
--


Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.


Homepagehttp://pamandgene.idleplay.net/?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?


Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguidehttp://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Download Thunderbird for free.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -



Reginald P. Smithers III January 24th 07 04:12 AM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 
Tim wrote:
What did I do wrong Reggie.

i signed up for a hotmail acct, and went through the usual channels (I
thought) and went to newsgroups, typed in rec.boats, and here I am,
right back on Google.

where did I mess up?


Download Thunderbird and install it on your computer. check with your
ISP to get the name of the Newsgroup server.

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/


D.Duck January 24th 07 07:32 AM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 

"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
Tim wrote:
What did I do wrong Reggie.

i signed up for a hotmail acct, and went through the usual channels (I
thought) and went to newsgroups, typed in rec.boats, and here I am,
right back on Google.

where did I mess up?


Download Thunderbird and install it on your computer. check with your ISP
to get the name of the Newsgroup server.

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/



All ISPs do not provide Usenet as part of their offering.



JohnH January 24th 07 11:46 AM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 
On 23 Jan 2007 15:49:45 -0800, "Tim" wrote:

Well, i come home, and key in to rec boats, and looks like google has
completely changed its format. I'm not against change, but this I
dont' care for. supposedly "new and improved" but harder to navigate.

I don't like it. Dont' like it one bit? Anybody else out there use
Google? Anybody else disatisfied?


Switch to Agent. At $30 it's a good deal.

JimH January 24th 07 02:53 PM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 

"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
Well, i come home, and key in to rec boats, and looks like google has
completely changed its format. I'm not against change, but this I
dont' care for. supposedly "new and improved" but harder to navigate.

I don't like it. Dont' like it one bit? Anybody else out there use
Google? Anybody else disatisfied?


Why not see if your ISP offers NG service using OE? Mine always has. It
does not come with all the bells and whistles a pay for NG reader does but
it works fine for me...................and it is free.



Tim January 24th 07 03:28 PM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 

D.Duck wrote:

All ISPs do not provide Usenet as part of their offering.


That's what I found out. My small provider doesn't carry Groups, Soooo,

looks like I'm stuck with Google, or Pay-per-View.


D.Duck January 24th 07 03:46 PM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 

"Tim" wrote in message
ups.com...

D.Duck wrote:

All ISPs do not provide Usenet as part of their offering.


That's what I found out. My small provider doesn't carry Groups, Soooo,

looks like I'm stuck with Google, or Pay-per-View.



There are some free news group providers. I've never tried them but you may
want to Google for free Usenet servers and give it a try.



Chuck Gould January 24th 07 04:26 PM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 


On Jan 23, 3:49*pm, "Tim" wrote:
Well, i come home, and key in to rec boats, and looks like google has
completely changed its format. *I'm not against change, but this I
dont' care for. supposedly "new and improved" but harder to navigate.

I don't like it. * Dont' like it one bit? *Anybody else out there use
Google? Anybody else disatisfied?


I use Google, but I'm a serious neanderthal when it comes to computing.
I use a computer because they have replaced typewriters, and because
they are dominating the field of casual communication. The average
12-year old knows more than most adults about computers, and the
average 9-year old knows more than I do.

Try collapsing the list of threads on the left hand side. That makes
the posts a lot more readable. Trying to display both at once seems to
put the posts into a one-column format, and it is tedious to read 3-4
words and then have to drop a line for the rest of the phrase.

Give it 3-4 days and it will probably seem normal. I was put off by the
change initially, but sometimes it can be easy to be put off merely
because something *has* changed, even if with a bit of practice and
experience it will become evident that the change was for the better.


[email protected] January 24th 07 04:49 PM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 
On Tue, 23 Jan '07 20:42:57 -0500, Gene Kearns wrote:
since the release of Agent 4.0, Free Agent has been
discontinued...


Free Agent is still available. The last standalone version is 1.21
IIRC, available he
http://freepctech.com/rode/018.shtml

Later versions also available in places like:
http://mirrors.easynews.com//agent/f...agent/english/

The only option I miss with Free Agent is "Mail".... maybe filter
capabilty too. But it beats the hell outta trying to read
Googlegroups, that's for sure.

As far as free news servers, I use Bubba News on the road (My
Bellsouth ISP won't allow news server connection from elsewhere, even
though I pay them for it). Bubba News charges $3.95 to register but
free after that. So far I've been happy with them. I don't know what
the capacity for the free service is, prolly not much (they offer
higher limits with their "pay" service), but I don't do binaries so
I've never hit their "free" limit.
http://www.bubbanews.com/

Rick

Tim January 24th 07 05:08 PM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 
Chuck, you have a point there.

Presently I'm posting on my work computer, and its still on Windows98.
while at home I have XP. maybe thats a difference, but the "new"
Google format seems more friendly on this old clunker, than it doe's at
home.

I don't know why, but on this box the "new" seems like the "old"
format.

hmmmm.


I'm also very computer unsavy. I confess.

JimH I will investigate Outlook Express, and have my 16 yr. old
daughter see if she can line me up with it.



Chuck Gould wrote:
On Jan 23, 3:49 pm, "Tim" wrote:


I use Google, but I'm a serious neanderthal when it comes to computing.
I use a computer because they have replaced typewriters, and because
they are dominating the field of casual communication. The average
12-year old knows more than most adults about computers, and the
average 9-year old knows more than I do.

Try collapsing the list of threads on the left hand side. That makes
the posts a lot more readable. Trying to display both at once seems to
put the posts into a one-column format, and it is tedious to read 3-4
words and then have to drop a line for the rest of the phrase.

Give it 3-4 days and it will probably seem normal. I was put off by the
change initially, but sometimes it can be easy to be put off merely
because something *has* changed, even if with a bit of practice and
experience it will become evident that the change was for the better.



JimH January 24th 07 05:42 PM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 

"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
Chuck, you have a point there.

Presently I'm posting on my work computer, and its still on Windows98.
while at home I have XP. maybe thats a difference, but the "new"
Google format seems more friendly on this old clunker, than it doe's at
home.

I don't know why, but on this box the "new" seems like the "old"
format.

hmmmm.


I'm also very computer unsavy. I confess.

JimH I will investigate Outlook Express, and have my 16 yr. old
daughter see if she can line me up with it.


Who is your ISP?

BTW: OE is included with Windows operating systems including XP.



dt January 24th 07 06:15 PM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 
D.Duck wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
ups.com...

D.Duck wrote:

All ISPs do not provide Usenet as part of their offering.


That's what I found out. My small provider doesn't carry Groups, Soooo,

looks like I'm stuck with Google, or Pay-per-View.




There are some free news group providers. I've never tried them but you may
want to Google for free Usenet servers and give it a try.


www.teranews.com One-time setup fee of four bucks. Fine for reading
newsgroups, 50Meg a day download limit, so you might even download a few
binaries.

DT

Tim January 24th 07 08:16 PM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 
Jim, my ISP is a local guy who isn't affiliated with anyone, really.

He's a farmer, who has the ISP on the side. in fact I get wireless for
free. Well, I souldn't say "free" . it's actually "bartered" I get
wireless, and I fix his tracter starters etc. it's really a win-win
situation. But it's bare necessities.



JimH wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...
Chuck, you have a point there.

Presently I'm posting on my work computer, and its still on Windows98.
while at home I have XP. maybe thats a difference, but the "new"
Google format seems more friendly on this old clunker, than it doe's at
home.

I don't know why, but on this box the "new" seems like the "old"
format.

hmmmm.


I'm also very computer unsavy. I confess.

JimH I will investigate Outlook Express, and have my 16 yr. old
daughter see if she can line me up with it.


Who is your ISP?

BTW: OE is included with Windows operating systems including XP.



JohnH January 24th 07 09:02 PM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 
On 24 Jan 2007 09:08:55 -0800, "Tim" wrote:

Chuck, you have a point there.

Presently I'm posting on my work computer, and its still on Windows98.
while at home I have XP. maybe thats a difference, but the "new"
Google format seems more friendly on this old clunker, than it doe's at
home.

I don't know why, but on this box the "new" seems like the "old"
format.

hmmmm.


I'm also very computer unsavy. I confess.

JimH I will investigate Outlook Express, and have my 16 yr. old
daughter see if she can line me up with it.



Chuck Gould wrote:
On Jan 23, 3:49 pm, "Tim" wrote:


I use Google, but I'm a serious neanderthal when it comes to computing.
I use a computer because they have replaced typewriters, and because
they are dominating the field of casual communication. The average
12-year old knows more than most adults about computers, and the
average 9-year old knows more than I do.

Try collapsing the list of threads on the left hand side. That makes
the posts a lot more readable. Trying to display both at once seems to
put the posts into a one-column format, and it is tedious to read 3-4
words and then have to drop a line for the rest of the phrase.

Give it 3-4 days and it will probably seem normal. I was put off by the
change initially, but sometimes it can be easy to be put off merely
because something *has* changed, even if with a bit of practice and
experience it will become evident that the change was for the better.


In another thread, same subject, are some url's for free versions of Agent.
I've been using Agent 1.91 for years and find it meets all my requirements
very well. It *does* have email, although I use MS Outlook for email. Try
it, you may like it!

Stolen from PhantomMan's post:

"Free Agent is still available. The last standalone version is 1.21
IIRC, available he
http://freepctech.com/rode/018.shtml

Later versions also available in places like:
http://mirrors.easynews.com//agent/f...agent/english/

The only option I miss with Free Agent is "Mail".... maybe filter
capabilty too. But it beats the hell outta trying to read
Googlegroups, that's for sure."


[email protected] January 24th 07 09:23 PM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:02:55 -0500, JohnH wrote:

Stolen from PhantomMan's post:


.... ahem.... actually, it's "P-h-a-n-t" man... not "Phantom"Man.
But then, I've been called all sorts of ... well, never mind ;-)

Rick

JohnH January 24th 07 11:45 PM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:23:11 -0600, lid wrote:

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:02:55 -0500, JohnH wrote:

Stolen from PhantomMan's post:


... ahem.... actually, it's "P-h-a-n-t" man... not "Phantom"Man.
But then, I've been called all sorts of ... well, never mind ;-)

Rick


Hey Rick! I definitely apologize for that horrible misnomer!

But, if 'Phant' isn't short for 'Phantom', what's it short for?

[email protected] January 25th 07 12:08 AM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 
JohnH wrote:
if 'Phant' isn't short for 'Phantom', what's it short for?


LoL! It's a nickname I picked up locally that has to do with my last
name (Fant) :-)

Rick


[email protected] February 1st 07 05:02 PM

Google changed its format grrrrrr!
 
On Wed, 24 Jan 07, PhantMan wrote:
Bubba News charges $3.95 to register but
free after that. So far I've been happy with them. I don't know what
the capacity for the free service is, prolly not much (they offer
higher limits with their "pay" service), but I don't do binaries so
I've never hit their "free" limit.


-Update-
I hit their limit this morning (apparently just downloading headers
counts). But I still have no clue what their limit is. I've looked
over their website, I've emailed them and asked, but so far no
response. If anyone here knows, or knows how I can find out, feel free
to share please.
Thanks,
Rick


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