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dene January 20th 07 07:57 PM

Soundproofing/Waterproofing a Honda Genny
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 13:03:00 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


"dene" wrote in message
oups.com...


Buy yourself a bigger plastic bin to store it in, out of sight and out of
the rain.
Remove the generator from the bin to use it.

Your design is dangerous, will overheat the generator and, by default,
contain any spilled fuel and vapors.

Honda designed it the way they did for many reasons.


It's actually kind of amusing that he over designed a noise system for
an over engineered low noise generator.

He'll learn when it bursts into flames. :)


It's not particularily quiet.

-Greg


Eisboch January 20th 07 08:14 PM

Soundproofing/Waterproofing a Honda Genny
 

"dene" wrote in message
oups.com...

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 13:03:00 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


"dene" wrote in message
oups.com...


Buy yourself a bigger plastic bin to store it in, out of sight and out
of
the rain.
Remove the generator from the bin to use it.

Your design is dangerous, will overheat the generator and, by default,
contain any spilled fuel and vapors.

Honda designed it the way they did for many reasons.


It's actually kind of amusing that he over designed a noise system for
an over engineered low noise generator.

He'll learn when it bursts into flames. :)


It's not particularily quiet.

-Greg


You've been posting details of your silly "invention" to several boating NGs
and RV NGs. I don't know what your motives are ... maybe you think people
are stupid and will buy them from you.
Or maybe you're just a troll. Either way, running a 46lb gasoline powered
generator in a plastic cooler is a dumb idea. Hopefully, nobody will take
you seriously.

Eisboch




dene January 20th 07 08:29 PM

Soundproofing/Waterproofing a Honda Genny
 

Eisboch wrote:

You've been posting details of your silly "invention" to several boating NGs
and RV NGs. I don't know what your motives are ... maybe you think people
are stupid and will buy them from you.


Read slowly. It's called a concept being conceived while asking advice
along the way, hence the reason I've posted in the forums I participate
in. I will not make a penny off this. I may send business to my
stepson if the concept's kinks are worked out. The last thing I want
to do is endanger my genny or somebody else's.

Or maybe you're just a troll. Either way, running a 46lb gasoline powered
generator in a plastic cooler is a dumb idea. Hopefully, nobody will take
you seriously.


The only troll is this post. As for dumb idea, maybe....but at least I
tried.

When was the last time you had a creative or original thought?

-Greg


dene January 20th 07 08:31 PM

Soundproofing/Waterproofing a Honda Genny
 

Bob wrote:

Thanks Greg. My sights were more twords the lower end of the river. I
spent a week at Scooner Creek's yard and the island is a bit too much
city for me. Next time Im up that way I will take a look at Cathlamet.
Thanks for the info.
Good luck with your new spot. And I dont want to see you on KATU
sliding down some street with all that freezing rain.
Bob


In that case, check out St. Helens. Our favorite Columbia River
destination. Good food, movie theatre, shops, view of the river, and a
nice marina. I inquired last month and there was a couple of covered
moorages available.

-Greg


Vic Smith January 20th 07 08:32 PM

Soundproofing/Waterproofing a Honda Genny
 
On 19 Jan 2007 23:08:04 -0800, "dene" wrote:

A couple of months ago, somebody in a boating forum described using a
modified cooler to house a honda 2000 genny. I passed on those posts to
my talented stepson and today we came up with a proto-type, that he may
eventually market for roughly $150 on E-bay. This is the first one with
more improvements envisioned before it goes to market. This cooler is a
Coleman 5 day, 100 qt. we got on sale at Walmart for $35. Only problem
with it is that it's not high enough, forcing us to cut a hole into the
top of the door.

Though I've had no experience with gensets, I've many times wondered
why the commonly used small engines can't be quieted with better
mufflers. Never looked into it hard, but it seems to me that better
exhaust muffling could be fabricated without using too much extra
space. I'm not up on back pressure issues, so that's a consideration.
Something else that comes to mind is rigging a sound deflector from
suitable materials to attach to points on the genset, where you'll
still have a side open for cooling yet project the mechanical sounds
away from the boat. Might break down for compact stowage.
Just some thoughts.

--Vic

Eisboch January 20th 07 08:43 PM

Soundproofing/Waterproofing a Honda Genny
 

"dene" wrote in message
ps.com...


Read slowly. It's called a concept being conceived while asking advice
along the way, hence the reason I've posted in the forums I participate
in. I will not make a penny off this. I may send business to my
stepson if the concept's kinks are worked out. The last thing I want
to do is endanger my genny or somebody else's.


When was the last time you had a creative or original thought?

-Greg



Part of your first post:

"I passed on those posts to my talented stepson and today we came up with
a proto-type, that he may eventually market for roughly $150 on E-bay.
This is the first one with more improvements envisioned before it goes to
market."

Overheating and fire risks be damned.

My creative thought?

plonk

Eisboch



BF January 20th 07 10:43 PM

Soundproofing/Waterproofing a Honda Genny
 
Remember the original WTC bombing and the differential housing SN?
If enough money is involved, lawyers will find someway to point at someone
to be responsible.
BF

"Larry" wrote in message
...
"William Longyard" wrote in
link.net:

Would I sell that on eBay? Only if I didn't mind inviting lawsuits
for the first one that catches on fire. Plastic fires are very nasty,
especially with gasoline nearby.


Won't be a problem if it kills everyone involved. When the plastic starts
burning, it will boil the gas in the little plastic tank inside the

cooler.
The ensuing explosion should destroy all the evidence and kill everyone
within several hundred feet from the concussion....eliminating those nasty
lawsuits.

Larry
--
Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner.
Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun.




dene January 21st 07 12:06 AM

Soundproofing/Waterproofing a Honda Genny
 

Eisboch wrote:
My creative thought?

plonk


Ah.....one less idiot for me to deal with!

-Greg


dene January 21st 07 12:09 AM

Soundproofing/Waterproofing a Honda Genny
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

We'll expect a report from your first product liability case or when
it eventually sets fire to your boat.


How about a report that it works well. Stay tuned....

Enjoyed your previous post. If I was marketing this, I wouldn't have
listed pictures, materials, etc. For now, I'm worried about my genny.
Maybe later, somebody else's.

-Greg


dene January 21st 07 12:10 AM

Soundproofing/Waterproofing a Honda Genny
 
Great thoughts....thanks!

-Greg

Vic Smith wrote:
On 19 Jan 2007 23:08:04 -0800, "dene" wrote:

A couple of months ago, somebody in a boating forum described using a
modified cooler to house a honda 2000 genny. I passed on those posts to
my talented stepson and today we came up with a proto-type, that he may
eventually market for roughly $150 on E-bay. This is the first one with
more improvements envisioned before it goes to market. This cooler is a
Coleman 5 day, 100 qt. we got on sale at Walmart for $35. Only problem
with it is that it's not high enough, forcing us to cut a hole into the
top of the door.

Though I've had no experience with gensets, I've many times wondered
why the commonly used small engines can't be quieted with better
mufflers. Never looked into it hard, but it seems to me that better
exhaust muffling could be fabricated without using too much extra
space. I'm not up on back pressure issues, so that's a consideration.
Something else that comes to mind is rigging a sound deflector from
suitable materials to attach to points on the genset, where you'll
still have a side open for cooling yet project the mechanical sounds
away from the boat. Might break down for compact stowage.
Just some thoughts.

--Vic




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