OK... let's stop the Chuckie dots.....
 

Chuckie dots are a special service, sponsored by the cross posting
jerks from other newsgroups who lob in such worthy subjects as
"Deranged Mestizo Illegal Imigrants Rape Blonde White Woman on the Hood
of a Lowrider", "Blacks are unfit to breathe", "Jews are infiltrating
the government at every level!", etc.

Replacing the racist or radical political crap with a dot makes it
harder for the guy who normally posts in some other NG to find his
handiwork when he checks in with rec.boats to see how many hundreds of
responses and how much hateful name calling he has generated. There are
several posters who do not participate in most of the normal exchange
on the NG, but never fail to show up and make some nasty contributions
to heated, offensively OT threads. If they don't see "Let's go shoot
some n***ers and liberals"
on the subect line, there's a better chance they will go on to scan
some of the other NG's where they look for this type of content.

If Gene's filter (and according to some in this thread there is some
doubt whether it really is Gene) is kicking out the dotted subject
lines, it would be really surprising to me to learn that Gene's filter
wouldn't kick out the entire thread, anyway.

If the original message was not posted by Gene, then it must have been
posted by somebody with a different motivation for seeing the racist
(etc) thread titles here.

Changing the subject line to a punctuation mark might screw up a post.
Posting KKK propaganda to a boating newsgroup screws up the entire
group. An individual post from the KKK isn't as damaging as the group
of people that such material routinely attracts.

And anyway, by the time somebody changes the subject line to a
punctation mark the post is already in the NG. People seeking this sort
of radical crap can simply look for the
punctuation mark in the subject line, go up thread a post or so, and
read all of the hateful, racist, or confrontationally political trolls
they would ever hope to find.

OK... let's stop the Chuckie dots.....
 

On 17 Jan 2007 07:39:53 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


Chuckie dots are a special service, sponsored by the cross posting
jerks from other newsgroups who lob in such worthy subjects as
"Deranged Mestizo Illegal Imigrants Rape Blonde White Woman on the Hood
of a Lowrider", "Blacks are unfit to breathe", "Jews are infiltrating
the government at every level!", etc.

Replacing the racist or radical political crap with a dot makes it
harder for the guy who normally posts in some other NG to find his
handiwork when he checks in with rec.boats to see how many hundreds of
responses and how much hateful name calling he has generated. There are
several posters who do not participate in most of the normal exchange
on the NG, but never fail to show up and make some nasty contributions
to heated, offensively OT threads. If they don't see "Let's go shoot
some n***ers and liberals"
on the subect line, there's a better chance they will go on to scan
some of the other NG's where they look for this type of content.

If Gene's filter (and according to some in this thread there is some
doubt whether it really is Gene) is kicking out the dotted subject
lines, it would be really surprising to me to learn that Gene's filter
wouldn't kick out the entire thread, anyway.

If the original message was not posted by Gene, then it must have been
posted by somebody with a different motivation for seeing the racist
(etc) thread titles here.

Changing the subject line to a punctuation mark might screw up a post.
Posting KKK propaganda to a boating newsgroup screws up the entire
group. An individual post from the KKK isn't as damaging as the group
of people that such material routinely attracts.

And anyway, by the time somebody changes the subject line to a
punctation mark the post is already in the NG. People seeking this sort
of radical crap can simply look for the
punctuation mark in the subject line, go up thread a post or so, and
read all of the hateful, racist, or confrontationally political trolls
they would ever hope to find.

Chuck, do you find you *must* get an anti-conservative jab in every one of
these posts?

"There are several posters who do not participate in most of the normal
exchange on the NG, but never fail to show up and make some nasty
contributions to heated, offensively OT threads. If they don't see "Let's
go shoot some n***ers and liberals"..."

I totally agree with your motive for the post. I can't understand why you
use your post(s) to take a poke at conservatives!


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OK... let's stop the Chuckie dots.....
 

While you are here playing with your silly Chuckie dots, developers are
buying up your public lands and killing your recreational boating industry.
Go slay some real dragons, man.

OK... let's stop the Chuckie dots.....
 

JohnH wrote:
On 17 Jan 2007 07:39:53 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


Chuckie dots are a special service, sponsored by the cross posting
jerks from other newsgroups who lob in such worthy subjects as
"Deranged Mestizo Illegal Imigrants Rape Blonde White Woman on the Hood
of a Lowrider", "Blacks are unfit to breathe", "Jews are infiltrating
the government at every level!", etc.

Replacing the racist or radical political crap with a dot makes it
harder for the guy who normally posts in some other NG to find his
handiwork when he checks in with rec.boats to see how many hundreds of
responses and how much hateful name calling he has generated. There are
several posters who do not participate in most of the normal exchange
on the NG, but never fail to show up and make some nasty contributions
to heated, offensively OT threads. If they don't see "Let's go shoot
some n***ers and liberals"
on the subect line, there's a better chance they will go on to scan
some of the other NG's where they look for this type of content.

If Gene's filter (and according to some in this thread there is some
doubt whether it really is Gene) is kicking out the dotted subject
lines, it would be really surprising to me to learn that Gene's filter
wouldn't kick out the entire thread, anyway.

If the original message was not posted by Gene, then it must have been
posted by somebody with a different motivation for seeing the racist
(etc) thread titles here.

Changing the subject line to a punctuation mark might screw up a post.
Posting KKK propaganda to a boating newsgroup screws up the entire
group. An individual post from the KKK isn't as damaging as the group
of people that such material routinely attracts.

And anyway, by the time somebody changes the subject line to a
punctation mark the post is already in the NG. People seeking this sort
of radical crap can simply look for the
punctuation mark in the subject line, go up thread a post or so, and
read all of the hateful, racist, or confrontationally political trolls
they would ever hope to find.

Chuck, do you find you *must* get an anti-conservative jab in every one of
these posts?

"There are several posters who do not participate in most of the normal
exchange on the NG, but never fail to show up and make some nasty
contributions to heated, offensively OT threads. If they don't see "Let's
go shoot some n***ers and liberals"..."

I totally agree with your motive for the post. I can't understand why you
use your post(s) to take a poke at conservatives!


You're presupposing that the only person who would want to shoot a
n***er or a liberal would be a conservative, or that any conservative
would subscribe to such an ideal.

I don't know a single conservative who would actually shoot, or
seriously threaten to shoot
a liberal. Do you?

Extremism cannot, by definition, be "conservative". Right wing
extremists responsible for posting much of the divisive, racist, poison
so commonly seen any more are hardly the "conservatives" with which you
and a high percentage of other Americans self identify.

I wouldn't call that gang of murderers in Texas responsible for
dragging that randomly selected black person down the road behind their
pickup truck "conservatives". Folks who gun down doctors outside of
abortion clinics are hardly conservative. Nor should anybody look at
the worst excesses of the radical left (eco-terrorism, etc) and attempt
to make a case that such behavior typifies all "liberals."

Could it be that your pre-awareness of my admitted bias is prompting
you to be ultra-senstitive?

OK... let's stop the Chuckie dots.....
 

On 17 Jan 2007 08:56:04 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


"There are several posters who do not participate in most of the normal
exchange on the NG, but never fail to show up and make some nasty
contributions to heated, offensively OT threads. If they don't see "Let's
go shoot some n***ers and liberals"..."

I totally agree with your motive for the post. I can't understand why you
use your post(s) to take a poke at conservatives!


You're presupposing that the only person who would want to shoot a
n***er or a liberal would be a conservative, or that any conservative
would subscribe to such an ideal.

I don't know a single conservative who would actually shoot, or
seriously threaten to shoot
a liberal. Do you?

Extremism cannot, by definition, be "conservative". Right wing
extremists responsible for posting much of the divisive, racist, poison
so commonly seen any more are hardly the "conservatives" with which you
and a high percentage of other Americans self identify.

I wouldn't call that gang of murderers in Texas responsible for
dragging that randomly selected black person down the road behind their
pickup truck "conservatives". Folks who gun down doctors outside of
abortion clinics are hardly conservative. Nor should anybody look at
the worst excesses of the radical left (eco-terrorism, etc) and attempt
to make a case that such behavior typifies all "liberals."

Could it be that your pre-awareness of my admitted bias is prompting
you to be ultra-senstitive?

Your reference was to people in the newsgroup who show up to make nasty
contributions. You referred to these people with your shooting liberals
comment. If not to the conservatives in the group, to whom in the group was
your comment directed? It was simply a cheap shot.

No, I don't think I'm being ultra-sensitive. As I said, I agree with the
motivation for your post.
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John H

OK... let's stop the Chuckie dots.....
 

JohnH wrote:


Your reference was to people in the newsgroup who show up to make nasty
contributions. You referred to these people with your shooting liberals
comment. If not to the conservatives in the group, to whom in the group was
your comment directed? It was simply a cheap shot.


Sometimes a minor point makes a major difference. Please reread. My
reference was to people who don't ordinarily participate in the NG but
who seem to show up to participate in threads that are racist in nature
or feature other subjects more often associated with right wing
extremism. Therefore the comment was not directed to anybody normally
part of the "group" here.

Not that there aren't left wing extremist OT threads as well- but it
seems that our homegrown lefties run for most of the yardage there.
Darn few people we have never heard of before follow the left wing
extremists into the group. By way of example, there were 4-6 people in
that absurd "Gould is a Jew!" thread (as if that would be an insult
even if it were true) a few months back that had never appeared in
rec.boats or hadn't been heard from for months and months prior and
haven't been heard from since.

I think many conservatives are fine people who have thoughtfully
evaluated the issues and simply reached some different conclusions than
I have. We'll need to wait for history to show who's right, and by then
we'll all be dead anyway and it won't matter much. Of course, history
will ultimately prove the conservatives right on some issues and
liberals right on others.

It's true that I can be an insensitive *******, but I'm not out to
tarnish conservatism.





No, I don't think I'm being ultra-sensitive. As I said, I agree with the
motivation for your post.
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***** Have a super day! *****
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John H

OK... let's stop the Chuckie dots.....
 

Chuck Gould wrote:
JohnH wrote:

Your reference was to people in the newsgroup who show up to make nasty
contributions. You referred to these people with your shooting liberals
comment. If not to the conservatives in the group, to whom in the group was
your comment directed? It was simply a cheap shot.


Sometimes a minor point makes a major difference. Please reread. My
reference was to people who don't ordinarily participate in the NG but
who seem to show up to participate in threads that are racist in nature
or feature other subjects more often associated with right wing
extremism. Therefore the comment was not directed to anybody normally
part of the "group" here.

Not that there aren't left wing extremist OT threads as well- but it
seems that our homegrown lefties run for most of the yardage there.
Darn few people we have never heard of before follow the left wing
extremists into the group. By way of example, there were 4-6 people in
that absurd "Gould is a Jew!" thread (as if that would be an insult
even if it were true) a few months back that had never appeared in
rec.boats or hadn't been heard from for months and months prior and
haven't been heard from since.

I think many conservatives are fine people who have thoughtfully
evaluated the issues and simply reached some different conclusions than
I have. We'll need to wait for history to show who's right, and by then
we'll all be dead anyway and it won't matter much. Of course, history
will ultimately prove the conservatives right on some issues and
liberals right on others.

It's true that I can be an insensitive *******, but I'm not out to
tarnish conservatism.




No, I don't think I'm being ultra-sensitive. As I said, I agree with the
motivation for your post.
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***** Have a super day! *****
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John H

When did you become a Jew? Why wasn't I invited to the ceremony?

As a Member of the Tribe, I should have been included.

OK... let's stop the Chuckie dots.....
 

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:05:37 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On 17 Jan 2007 10:50:13 -0800, Chuck Gould penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


JohnH wrote:


Your reference was to people in the newsgroup who show up to make nasty
contributions. You referred to these people with your shooting liberals
comment. If not to the conservatives in the group, to whom in the group was
your comment directed? It was simply a cheap shot.


Sometimes a minor point makes a major difference. Please reread. My
reference was to people who don't ordinarily participate in the NG but
who seem to show up to participate in threads that are racist in nature
or feature other subjects more often associated with right wing
extremism. Therefore the comment was not directed to anybody normally
part of the "group" here.

Not that there aren't left wing extremist OT threads as well- but it
seems that our homegrown lefties run for most of the yardage there.
Darn few people we have never heard of before follow the left wing
extremists into the group. By way of example, there were 4-6 people in
that absurd "Gould is a Jew!" thread (as if that would be an insult
even if it were true) a few months back that had never appeared in
rec.boats or hadn't been heard from for months and months prior and
haven't been heard from since.

I think many conservatives are fine people who have thoughtfully
evaluated the issues and simply reached some different conclusions than
I have. We'll need to wait for history to show who's right, and by then
we'll all be dead anyway and it won't matter much. Of course, history
will ultimately prove the conservatives right on some issues and
liberals right on others.

It's true that I can be an insensitive *******, but I'm not out to
tarnish conservatism.


Remember when it got so bad here that I installed a news server and
offered free use of same for all those interested in "boating only"
posts? It deleted far left and far right content in the hope that
there were some posters left that still owned a boat.....

We've always tolerated "off topic" content here until it got just mean
and nasty....

Now.... can we get back to water related stuff?

Sounds good to me. Now, who's got the recipe for the chowdah mentioned in
Harry's thread?
--
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***** Have a super day! *****
******************************************

John H

OK... let's stop the Chuckie dots.....
 

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:05:37 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

Now.... can we get back to water related stuff?

I'm on the water as we speak, anchored about 2 miles south east of Key
West, with absolutely beautiful weather. We are serving as a race
committee boat for the anual Key West sailing regatta, and are
surrounded by several hundred boats sailing in circles. What a sight.

http://news.google.com/news?q=key+we...=news&ct=title

or

http://tinyurl.com/32u7lh

OK... let's stop the Chuckie dots.....
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
Sounds good to me. Now, who's got the recipe for the chowdah mentioned in
Harry's thread?
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John H


geez... if you want to trade recipies & cooking hints ..take it to
alt.juliachilds

OK... let's stop the Chuckie dots.....
 

On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:31:39 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
Sounds good to me. Now, who's got the recipe for the chowdah mentioned in
Harry's thread?
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John H


geez... if you want to trade recipies & cooking hints ..take it to
alt.juliachilds


Well, I'll grant it's not the name-calling and trash-mouthing you'd prefer.
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John H

OK... let's stop the Chuckie dots.....
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...


Well, I'll grant it's not the name-calling and trash-mouthing you'd
prefer.
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John H

If you had done your sworn duty...I bet there'd be a lot less of "the
name-calling and trash-mouthing you'd prefer".
In fact I much prefer a nice homey, down-east style of group where all are
considered equal and we can chat like buddies over a cold draught beer.

OK... let's stop the Chuckie dots.....
 

On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:55:43 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .


Well, I'll grant it's not the name-calling and trash-mouthing you'd
prefer.
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John H

If you had done your sworn duty...I bet there'd be a lot less of "the
name-calling and trash-mouthing you'd prefer".
In fact I much prefer a nice homey, down-east style of group where all are
considered equal and we can chat like buddies over a cold draught beer.


Then act that way. You'll find most feel the same way.
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John H

OK... let's stop the Chuckie dots.....
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:55:43 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
. ..


Well, I'll grant it's not the name-calling and trash-mouthing you'd
prefer.
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John H

If you had done your sworn duty...I bet there'd be a lot less of "the
name-calling and trash-mouthing you'd prefer".
In fact I much prefer a nice homey, down-east style of group where all are
considered equal and we can chat like buddies over a cold draught beer.


Then act that way. You'll find most feel the same way.

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John H


Doctor John...... heal thyself!

OK... let's stop the Chuckie dots.....
 

On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:04:10 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 1/18/2007 3:56 PM, Don White wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:55:43 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
Well, I'll grant it's not the name-calling and trash-mouthing you'd
prefer.
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John H
If you had done your sworn duty...I bet there'd be a lot less of "the
name-calling and trash-mouthing you'd prefer".
In fact I much prefer a nice homey, down-east style of group where all are
considered equal and we can chat like buddies over a cold draught beer.

Then act that way. You'll find most feel the same way.

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John H


Doctor John...... heal thyself!




Herring apparently is oblivious to the fact that his role here as "Ms
Manners" puts him high up on the list of the obnoxious. You'd think that
as a non-boater, he'd move along.

Spouting your fallacies again, Harry? Try Don's approach - chatting like
buddies. It may work. You won't need to continuously call names!
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John H

OK... let's stop the Chuckie dots.....
 

Don White wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
Well, I'll grant it's not the name-calling and trash-mouthing you'd
prefer.
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John H

If you had done your sworn duty...I bet there'd be a lot less of "the
name-calling and trash-mouthing you'd prefer".
In fact I much prefer a nice homey, down-east style of group where all are
considered equal and we can chat like buddies over a cold draught beer.


Don,
Nice to see you would prefer a nice homey group, instead of viewing your
mission in the NG as having to turn over the rocks to expose the slime
of the NG. Would you like a nice IPA?

OK... let's stop the Chuckie dots.....
 

JohnH wrote:

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:05:37 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:


On 17 Jan 2007 10:50:13 -0800, Chuck Gould penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


JohnH wrote:


Your reference was to people in the newsgroup who show up to make nasty
contributions. You referred to these people with your shooting liberals
comment. If not to the conservatives in the group, to whom in the group was
your comment directed? It was simply a cheap shot.


Sometimes a minor point makes a major difference. Please reread. My
reference was to people who don't ordinarily participate in the NG but
who seem to show up to participate in threads that are racist in nature
or feature other subjects more often associated with right wing
extremism. Therefore the comment was not directed to anybody normally
part of the "group" here.

Not that there aren't left wing extremist OT threads as well- but it
seems that our homegrown lefties run for most of the yardage there.
Darn few people we have never heard of before follow the left wing
extremists into the group. By way of example, there were 4-6 people in
that absurd "Gould is a Jew!" thread (as if that would be an insult
even if it were true) a few months back that had never appeared in
rec.boats or hadn't been heard from for months and months prior and
haven't been heard from since.

I think many conservatives are fine people who have thoughtfully
evaluated the issues and simply reached some different conclusions than
I have. We'll need to wait for history to show who's right, and by then
we'll all be dead anyway and it won't matter much. Of course, history
will ultimately prove the conservatives right on some issues and
liberals right on others.

It's true that I can be an insensitive *******, but I'm not out to
tarnish conservatism.


Remember when it got so bad here that I installed a news server and
offered free use of same for all those interested in "boating only"
posts? It deleted far left and far right content in the hope that
there were some posters left that still owned a boat.....

We've always tolerated "off topic" content here until it got just mean
and nasty....

Now.... can we get back to water related stuff?


Sounds good to me. Now, who's got the recipe for the chowdah mentioned in
Harry's thread?
Well if you want the Scottish variety, google for: cullen skink recipe
I'm afraid that unless my mother is making it from scratch, I get it
from the supermarket.

On the boat related side of things, I just got a letter from the marina.
Annual lock maintenance closure extended due to adverse weather . . .
:-(

--
Ian Malcolm. London, ENGLAND. (NEWSGROUP REPLY PREFERRED)
ianm[at]the[dash]malcolms[dot]freeserve[dot]co[dot]uk
[at]=@, [dash]=- & [dot]=. *Warning* HTML & 32K emails -- NUL:
'Stingo' Albacore #1554 - 15' Early 60's, Uffa Fox designed,
All varnished hot moulded wooden racing dinghy.

. (couldn't help it!)
 

.. (in desperation)

JohnH wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:
"JohnH" wrote:
"Don White" wrote:
"JohnH" wrote:
snipped for the sake of all boaters everywhere

--
Ian Malcolm. London, ENGLAND. (NEWSGROUP REPLY PREFERRED)
ianm[at]the[dash]malcolms[dot]freeserve[dot]co[dot]uk
[at]=@, [dash]=- & [dot]=. *Warning* HTML & 32K emails -- NUL:
'Stingo' Albacore #1554 - 15' Early 60's, Uffa Fox designed,
All varnished hot moulded wooden racing dinghy.

OK... let's stop the Chuckie dots.....
 

On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 03:27:47 +0000, Ian Malcolm
wrote:

JohnH wrote:

On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:05:37 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:


On 17 Jan 2007 10:50:13 -0800, Chuck Gould penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


JohnH wrote:


Your reference was to people in the newsgroup who show up to make nasty
contributions. You referred to these people with your shooting liberals
comment. If not to the conservatives in the group, to whom in the group was
your comment directed? It was simply a cheap shot.


Sometimes a minor point makes a major difference. Please reread. My
reference was to people who don't ordinarily participate in the NG but
who seem to show up to participate in threads that are racist in nature
or feature other subjects more often associated with right wing
extremism. Therefore the comment was not directed to anybody normally
part of the "group" here.

Not that there aren't left wing extremist OT threads as well- but it
seems that our homegrown lefties run for most of the yardage there.
Darn few people we have never heard of before follow the left wing
extremists into the group. By way of example, there were 4-6 people in
that absurd "Gould is a Jew!" thread (as if that would be an insult
even if it were true) a few months back that had never appeared in
rec.boats or hadn't been heard from for months and months prior and
haven't been heard from since.

I think many conservatives are fine people who have thoughtfully
evaluated the issues and simply reached some different conclusions than
I have. We'll need to wait for history to show who's right, and by then
we'll all be dead anyway and it won't matter much. Of course, history
will ultimately prove the conservatives right on some issues and
liberals right on others.

It's true that I can be an insensitive *******, but I'm not out to
tarnish conservatism.


Remember when it got so bad here that I installed a news server and
offered free use of same for all those interested in "boating only"
posts? It deleted far left and far right content in the hope that
there were some posters left that still owned a boat.....

We've always tolerated "off topic" content here until it got just mean
and nasty....

Now.... can we get back to water related stuff?


Sounds good to me. Now, who's got the recipe for the chowdah mentioned in
Harry's thread?
Well if you want the Scottish variety, google for: cullen skink recipe
I'm afraid that unless my mother is making it from scratch, I get it
from the supermarket.

On the boat related side of things, I just got a letter from the marina.
Annual lock maintenance closure extended due to adverse weather . . .
:-(

Speaking of weather, you guys seem to be catching some real crap according
to our local news. Hope all is well with you and yours.
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

OK... let's stop the Chuckie dots.....
 

JohnH wrote:

Ian Malcolm wrote:

JohnH wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:

Now.... can we get back to water related stuff?


Sounds good to me. Now, who's got the recipe for the chowdah mentioned in
Harry's thread?

Well if you want the Scottish variety, google for: cullen skink recipe
I'm afraid that unless my mother is making it from scratch, I get it

from the supermarket.

On the boat related side of things, I just got a letter from the marina.
Annual lock maintenance closure extended due to adverse weather . . .
:-(


Speaking of weather, you guys seem to be catching some real crap according
to our local news. Hope all is well with you and yours.

Thank you for asking, John.

All seems to be well, though a relative was working in a health centre
near where the child was crushed by the falling wall in north London.
As the staff know the family well, eveyone was rather upset. I am not
going to say any more out of respect for their confidentiality other
than to say they are in our thoughts.

On a lighter note, I haven't recived any nastygrams from the Marina and
this webcam loking out over the Thames estuary in the general area looks
fairly calm at the moment:

http://www.iossc.org.uk/weather/

so all should be OK with the yacht. I am down there tomorrow to do
maintenance. I'm mighty glad I picked up the permanent shore lines from
our previous marina just after Christmas and put them on a fortnight
back. They are extremely heavy three strand with spliced eyes and well
covered with reinforced plastic hoze to prevent chafe. We were
thinking about hauling out for the winter but I think in view of the
number of yachts which have been toppled this year, even though we've
moved to a less exposed marina, we'll stay in apart from a brief haulout
for essentials like antifouling and anodes.

Got a work party on down my local sailing club on Sunday, I wonder what
chaos We'll find in the dinghy park. :-(

--
Ian Malcolm. London, ENGLAND. (NEWSGROUP REPLY PREFERRED)
ianm[at]the[dash]malcolms[dot]freeserve[dot]co[dot]uk
[at]=@, [dash]=- & [dot]=. *Warning* HTML & 32K emails -- NUL:
'Stingo' Albacore #1554 - 15' Early 60's, Uffa Fox designed,
All varnished hot moulded wooden racing dinghy.

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On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:24:52 +0000, Ian Malcolm
wrote:

JohnH wrote:

Ian Malcolm wrote:

JohnH wrote:

Gene Kearns wrote:

Chuck Gould wrote:

Now.... can we get back to water related stuff?


Sounds good to me. Now, who's got the recipe for the chowdah mentioned in
Harry's thread?

Well if you want the Scottish variety, google for: cullen skink recipe
I'm afraid that unless my mother is making it from scratch, I get it

from the supermarket.

On the boat related side of things, I just got a letter from the marina.
Annual lock maintenance closure extended due to adverse weather . . .
:-(


Speaking of weather, you guys seem to be catching some real crap according
to our local news. Hope all is well with you and yours.

Thank you for asking, John.

All seems to be well, though a relative was working in a health centre
near where the child was crushed by the falling wall in north London.
As the staff know the family well, eveyone was rather upset. I am not
going to say any more out of respect for their confidentiality other
than to say they are in our thoughts.

On a lighter note, I haven't recived any nastygrams from the Marina and
this webcam loking out over the Thames estuary in the general area looks
fairly calm at the moment:

http://www.iossc.org.uk/weather/

so all should be OK with the yacht. I am down there tomorrow to do
maintenance. I'm mighty glad I picked up the permanent shore lines from
our previous marina just after Christmas and put them on a fortnight
back. They are extremely heavy three strand with spliced eyes and well
covered with reinforced plastic hoze to prevent chafe. We were
thinking about hauling out for the winter but I think in view of the
number of yachts which have been toppled this year, even though we've
moved to a less exposed marina, we'll stay in apart from a brief haulout
for essentials like antifouling and anodes.

Got a work party on down my local sailing club on Sunday, I wonder what
chaos We'll find in the dinghy park. :-(

Looks nice and calm now. Glad to hear all is well. I just talked to a
friend in the Netherlands. They lost a couple trees in their garden, but no
damage to property.
--
***** Have a super day! *****

John H

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"Ian Malcolm" wrote in message
...
snip..
On a lighter note, I haven't recived any nastygrams from the Marina and
this webcam loking out over the Thames estuary in the general area looks
fairly calm at the moment:

http://www.iossc.org.uk/weather/

snip...

Looks like a nice spring day to me!
Here's our harbour buoy info...although we've warmed up dramatically from
the -18C we suffered through for a couple of days. My hot water to the
upstairs bathroom had frozen for a day.
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44258

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On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:33:06 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Now.... can we get back to water related stuff?

I'm on the water as we speak, anchored about 2 miles south east of Key
West, with absolutely beautiful weather. We are serving as a race
committee boat for the anual Key West sailing regatta, and are
surrounded by several hundred boats sailing in circles. What a sight.

Rub salt in the wound why don't you?

~~ mutter ~~

Well, you and Mrs Wave are always welcome to come visit. The weather
this week in Key West has been absolutely magnificent, but we're
headed home tomorrow.

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On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:55:43 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


Here's our harbour buoy info...although we've warmed up dramatically from
the -18C we suffered through for a couple of days. My hot water to the
upstairs bathroom had frozen for a day.
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44258


Damn, Don.

You canucks *have* to be crazy...you *need* that serious Canadian
beer.

-18C ?

Ouch! :-)

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"Jack Goff" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:55:43 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


Here's our harbour buoy info...although we've warmed up dramatically from
the -18C we suffered through for a couple of days. My hot water to the
upstairs bathroom had frozen for a day.
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=44258


Damn, Don.

You canucks *have* to be crazy...you *need* that serious Canadian
beer.

-18C ?

Ouch! :-)


Right here, we're just a little bit worse than coastal Maine.
Been raining big time all day with high winds.

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On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 03:54:26 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


Right here, we're just a little bit worse than coastal Maine.
Been raining big time all day with high winds.


I guess we should all realize that is *is* winter in North America,
after all.

In another 30 or so days we'll be back in the lake again! Can't wait.

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Wayne,
I was coming into Wiggins around 3pm today and saw a Grand Banks heading
north between 3 and 5 miles from shore. Was that you?




"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:33:06 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Now.... can we get back to water related stuff?

I'm on the water as we speak, anchored about 2 miles south east of Key
West, with absolutely beautiful weather. We are serving as a race
committee boat for the anual Key West sailing regatta, and are
surrounded by several hundred boats sailing in circles. What a sight.

Rub salt in the wound why don't you?

~~ mutter ~~

Well, you and Mrs Wave are always welcome to come visit. The weather
this week in Key West has been absolutely magnificent, but we're
headed home tomorrow.

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:22:26 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Wayne,
I was coming into Wiggins around 3pm today and saw a Grand Banks heading
north between 3 and 5 miles from shore. Was that you?

I suspect it was, we were going by there just about that time.

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:22:26 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Wayne,
I was coming into Wiggins around 3pm today and saw a Grand Banks heading
north between 3 and 5 miles from shore. Was that you?

Just checked the GPS track log on my laptop. We were abeam of Wiggins
Pass at 3:12 PM and exactly 3.95 NM off shore. It looks like you
probably saw us because there were no other north bound boats any
where near by. I usually run closer to shore than that but decided
to straight line it from Marco Island to Ft Myers Beach to save time.
We spent last night anchored in Little Shark River. Tides were
extremely low this morning when we were leaving, and the channel there
was at least a foot shallower than charted depths. Lucky we got out
before noon time.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 00:22:26 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Wayne,
I was coming into Wiggins around 3pm today and saw a Grand Banks heading
north between 3 and 5 miles from shore. Was that you?

Just checked the GPS track log on my laptop. We were abeam of Wiggins
Pass at 3:12 PM and exactly 3.95 NM off shore. It looks like you
probably saw us because there were no other north bound boats any
where near by. I usually run closer to shore than that but decided
to straight line it from Marco Island to Ft Myers Beach to save time.
We spent last night anchored in Little Shark River. Tides were
extremely low this morning when we were leaving, and the channel there
was at least a foot shallower than charted depths. Lucky we got out
before noon time.


I was guessing that was you, as I read your dolphin report when you were
heading down to the Keys.

I was in a 30' Grady White heading SE into a nasty quartering sea at 26
knots. The boat handled it well, but I was throwing a helluva lot of water.
My starboard side eisenglass was soaked and salt encrusted, and I picked you
up on radar long before I saw you. When you were off my stern, I thought I
recognized the boat. I didn't know the name of your vessel, or I would have
tried to hail you on 16.

I'd imagine that your vessel didn't even feel the seas...especially with
them at your back.

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:18:39 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

I was guessing that was you, as I read your dolphin report when you were
heading down to the Keys.

I was in a 30' Grady White heading SE into a nasty quartering sea at 26
knots. The boat handled it well, but I was throwing a helluva lot of water.
My starboard side eisenglass was soaked and salt encrusted, and I picked you
up on radar long before I saw you. When you were off my stern, I thought I
recognized the boat. I didn't know the name of your vessel, or I would have
tried to hail you on 16.

I'd imagine that your vessel didn't even feel the seas...especially with
them at your back.

Yes, it got windy yesterday late in the afternoon. We were going
downwind in a 60,000 lb displacement hull with active stabilizers so
it was pretty much a walk in the park for us.

We had plenty of bad road to negotiate over the course of the week
however. A week ago last Friday we were going from Marco Island to
Key West with a 20 to 25 kt easterly and nasty little 4 to 6 ft waves
on our port beam. We took a few of the worst rolls that I've
experienced in 3 years, and that includes thousands of miles on open
ocean. The shape of the waves matters just as much as the height if
not more so. Last Saturday morning we headed north out of Key West
into 20 kt northerlies with a stiff opposing current generating some 5
foot square waves. We were bucking that most of the day until we got
closer to Cape Sable. Nice day but not a fun ride.

If you think you see us again, make a call to the "south bound Grand
Banks trawler off of Naples" or whatever. It's possible we may get
down that way again this winter but I don't know for sure.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 17:18:39 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

I was guessing that was you, as I read your dolphin report when you were
heading down to the Keys.

I was in a 30' Grady White heading SE into a nasty quartering sea at 26
knots. The boat handled it well, but I was throwing a helluva lot of
water.
My starboard side eisenglass was soaked and salt encrusted, and I picked
you
up on radar long before I saw you. When you were off my stern, I thought
I
recognized the boat. I didn't know the name of your vessel, or I would
have
tried to hail you on 16.

I'd imagine that your vessel didn't even feel the seas...especially with
them at your back.

Yes, it got windy yesterday late in the afternoon. We were going
downwind in a 60,000 lb displacement hull with active stabilizers so
it was pretty much a walk in the park for us.

We had plenty of bad road to negotiate over the course of the week
however. A week ago last Friday we were going from Marco Island to
Key West with a 20 to 25 kt easterly and nasty little 4 to 6 ft waves
on our port beam. We took a few of the worst rolls that I've
experienced in 3 years, and that includes thousands of miles on open
ocean. The shape of the waves matters just as much as the height if
not more so. Last Saturday morning we headed north out of Key West
into 20 kt northerlies with a stiff opposing current generating some 5
foot square waves. We were bucking that most of the day until we got
closer to Cape Sable. Nice day but not a fun ride.


I went out about 20 miles on Saturday with those northerlies at our
starboard side. It wasn't too bad until we made it out 10-15 miles or so.
Closer to shore, Sanibel was blocking the wind.

We were going to go 40 miles, but 20 miles in that slop was enough with 4
kids aboard.

NOAA called for 10-15 knots and seas 2 feet or less. Instead, the wind was
closer to 20 knots with seas of 3-5 feet.

3-5 foot chop spaced a couple of seconds apart in shallow water makes for a
bumpy ride.



If you think you see us again, make a call to the "south bound Grand
Banks trawler off of Naples" or whatever. It's possible we may get
down that way again this winter but I don't know for sure.

Will do.

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:37:51 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

If you think you see us again, make a call to the "south bound Grand
Banks trawler off of Naples" or whatever. It's possible we may get
down that way again this winter but I don't know for sure.

Will do.

Is Wiggins your home port?

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:37:51 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

If you think you see us again, make a call to the "south bound Grand
Banks trawler off of Naples" or whatever. It's possible we may get
down that way again this winter but I don't know for sure.

Will do.

Is Wiggins your home port?


Yes.