Big fishing reels, what do they cost?
 

OK, I ove watching "The Water Channel" (217 on DishNetwork) and
tonight they had some big "Bluewater Battle wagon" Out trolling for
Blue Marlin.

I was watching these people who pay a kings ransom to go do some heavy
duty catching, and they had these very large, black (carbon graphite?)
rods, whith large gold colored reels. About as big as a medium-sized
coffe can.

The only thig I've really ever used to fish with, was the Zebco 202 kit
that my Grandpa bought for me for my 8th birthday.

Obvious comparisons are similar to a Yugo to a Rolls Royce.

I know different items draw different pricing, but on about an average,
what does one of those fishing rigs cost? I know it's more than a
buck-49.

Big fishing reels, what do they cost?
 

The strange thing is that I have run accross a lot of items that were
for sale. I am a grarage sale junky and have found a lot of very
expensive items for a greatly reduced price. Not cheap because most
sellers know the value, but a hugh reduction from a direct purchase.

You can run accross a lot of items like campers and even autos and
boats at a very cheap price. The only problem is you have to spend a
lot of time looking. I have 3 grand young grandchildren and I have
picked up some great fishing grear for pennies.

About the best deal I have ever run accross was a free paperback of
the "Last Days of Elvis" that I sold on Ebay for $25.

It helps to be in a Big City area, but there are some great bargains
in rural areas.

On 12 Jan 2007 20:22:42 -0800, "Tim" wrote:

OK, I ove watching "The Water Channel" (217 on DishNetwork) and
tonight they had some big "Bluewater Battle wagon" Out trolling for
Blue Marlin.

I was watching these people who pay a kings ransom to go do some heavy
duty catching, and they had these very large, black (carbon graphite?)
rods, whith large gold colored reels. About as big as a medium-sized
coffe can.

The only thig I've really ever used to fish with, was the Zebco 202 kit
that my Grandpa bought for me for my 8th birthday.

Obvious comparisons are similar to a Yugo to a Rolls Royce.

I know different items draw different pricing, but on about an average,
what does one of those fishing rigs cost? I know it's more than a
buck-49.

Big fishing reels, what do they cost?
 

I figured it would be more than a "buck-49"..

Sure looked like fun, though. Some of those Marlin fought like heck,
well, they all did, but the huge ones looked like they'd take more of a
toll on the fisherman, then they would on themselves.



Gene Kearns wrote:
On 12 Jan 2007 20:22:42 -0800, Tim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

OK, I ove watching "The Water Channel" (217 on DishNetwork) and
tonight they had some big "Bluewater Battle wagon" Out trolling for
Blue Marlin.

I was watching these people who pay a kings ransom to go do some heavy
duty catching, and they had these very large, black (carbon graphite?)
rods, whith large gold colored reels. About as big as a medium-sized
coffe can.

The only thig I've really ever used to fish with, was the Zebco 202 kit
that my Grandpa bought for me for my 8th birthday.

Obvious comparisons are similar to a Yugo to a Rolls Royce.

I know different items draw different pricing, but on about an average,
what does one of those fishing rigs cost? I know it's more than a
buck-49.

Oh... not knowing which models they were using....

I'd say $800-$1300 for the reel and about $400-$700 for the rod. A
custom rig could run a *lot* more. Heavy sal****er artificial lures
can run $25 or more each....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats

Big fishing reels, what do they cost?
 

Actually... anything over a 30LB is so stiff it's not as much fun as
their smaller cousins. My favorite rig is a 20Lb spinner with sailfish
or dolphin. More sport.

Usually we fish TLD 25's and 30s with a standup rig, we have caught
Sail, tuna, Dolphin (Mahi-Mahi), etc. Lots of fun. We fish Tiagra
50's for Wahoo and Swordfish and they are fun but you don't feel the
fish as much. We use a belt or a chair depending on the fish. Moving
into 80's and 130s you are mostly limited to a chair (OK, you macho
types might be able to handle a 130 with a belt but most of us can't)

We have also had times where we miss targeted an environment. We got a
BIG tuna hit on a tld 25 once and the tuna spooled us staight down. We
were fishing the edge in Bimini and the tuna went off the edge into
several thousand feet of water. We cranked the drag past the 30% safety
zone and it finally took the last bit of line and broke off. We have
caught many Tuna in the 25 to 70LB level with TLDs so I expect this one
had to be 100LB.

A good TLD 25 rig with quality graphite rod with roller guides will be
about $500. 50's with Tiagra or Penn Internationals will hit 800-1200,
and 80's or 130's will be 1500 to 2500 ++++

Sport fishing magazine had an article a few years back that claimed the
average Marlin in the US cost $25,000 each when caught on a large
sportfish. (including boat expenses, gear and boat depreciation etc)

Cheaper to charter in an area like venezuela where they are more
plentiful!!!!








Tim wrote:
I figured it would be more than a "buck-49"..

Sure looked like fun, though. Some of those Marlin fought like heck,
well, they all did, but the huge ones looked like they'd take more of a
toll on the fisherman, then they would on themselves.



Gene Kearns wrote:

On 12 Jan 2007 20:22:42 -0800, Tim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:


OK, I ove watching "The Water Channel" (217 on DishNetwork) and
tonight they had some big "Bluewater Battle wagon" Out trolling for
Blue Marlin.

I was watching these people who pay a kings ransom to go do some heavy
duty catching, and they had these very large, black (carbon graphite?)
rods, whith large gold colored reels. About as big as a medium-sized
coffe can.

The only thig I've really ever used to fish with, was the Zebco 202 kit
that my Grandpa bought for me for my 8th birthday.

Obvious comparisons are similar to a Yugo to a Rolls Royce.

I know different items draw different pricing, but on about an average,
what does one of those fishing rigs cost? I know it's more than a
buck-49.

Oh... not knowing which models they were using....

I'd say $800-$1300 for the reel and about $400-$700 for the rod. A
custom rig could run a *lot* more. Heavy sal****er artificial lures
can run $25 or more each....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats

Big fishing reels, what do they cost?
 

Ed wrote:

Sport fishing magazine had an article a few years back that claimed the
average Marlin in the US cost $25,000 each when caught on a large
sportfish. (including boat expenses, gear and boat depreciation etc)

Cheaper to charter in an area like venezuela where they are more
plentiful!!!!



Sounds like a really expensive hobby.

Well, for the most, but not for all.?

I think I'd best stick to crappie, bluegill, and catfeeesh, with a worm
and a Zebco.....

Big fishing reels, what do they cost?
 

"Tim" wrote in message
ups.com...

Ed wrote:

Sport fishing magazine had an article a few years back that claimed the
average Marlin in the US cost $25,000 each when caught on a large
sportfish. (including boat expenses, gear and boat depreciation etc)

Cheaper to charter in an area like venezuela where they are more
plentiful!!!!



Sounds like a really expensive hobby.

Well, for the most, but not for all.?

I think I'd best stick to crappie, bluegill, and catfeeesh, with a worm
and a Zebco.....


Book a long range trip out of San Diego. Lots of big fish, about $250-300 /
day including tip. Includes meals and tackle is rented resonably. The
really big fish, the cow tuna ((200#+) is mostly caught on Penn gold or
other aluminum reels. Not Graphite reels as the aluminum is much better at
dumping heat from the drags.

Big fishing reels, what do they cost?
 

Tim wrote:
OK, I ove watching "The Water Channel" (217 on DishNetwork) and
tonight they had some big "Bluewater Battle wagon" Out trolling for
Blue Marlin.

I was watching these people who pay a kings ransom to go do some heavy
duty catching, and they had these very large, black (carbon graphite?)
rods, whith large gold colored reels. About as big as a medium-sized
coffe can.

The only thig I've really ever used to fish with, was the Zebco 202 kit
that my Grandpa bought for me for my 8th birthday.

Obvious comparisons are similar to a Yugo to a Rolls Royce.

I know different items draw different pricing, but on about an average,
what does one of those fishing rigs cost? I know it's more than a
buck-49.

Tim,

Figure on a 130 pound class rod costing about $1,200 for the reel,
another $600 to $800 for a custom bent butt rod and about $200 for
line. So your in the neighborhood of $2,000 a rod, give or take a few
hundred. For an 80 pound class figure on about $800 for the reel, $300
to $500 for a bent butt rod and about $125 for line, about $1,300, give
or take a little. A 70 pound setup should go about $1,000, give or take
some and a 50 pound set up around $700. You can go cheaper by getting
factory made rods, and less expensive reels, but these are probably
good numbers for Penn set ups.

I remenber the first time I fished for "big game", and saw those rods
and reels. The boat owner looked at me and said, "son, if you're going
bear hunting, bring the big guns, leave the little one's home", and he
was right.

John

Big fishing reels, what do they cost?
 

The break down of pricing that you all have listed reminds me of the
big sign in the Wayne Co. Speed Shop in Fairfield IL.

"Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?.."


Capt John wrote:
Tim wrote:
OK, I ove watching "The Water Channel" (217 on DishNetwork) and
tonight they had some big "Bluewater Battle wagon" Out trolling for
Blue Marlin.

I was watching these people who pay a kings ransom to go do some heavy
duty catching, and they had these very large, black (carbon graphite?)
rods, whith large gold colored reels. About as big as a medium-sized
coffe can.

The only thig I've really ever used to fish with, was the Zebco 202 kit
that my Grandpa bought for me for my 8th birthday.

Obvious comparisons are similar to a Yugo to a Rolls Royce.

I know different items draw different pricing, but on about an average,
what does one of those fishing rigs cost? I know it's more than a
buck-49.

Tim,

Figure on a 130 pound class rod costing about $1,200 for the reel,
another $600 to $800 for a custom bent butt rod and about $200 for
line. So your in the neighborhood of $2,000 a rod, give or take a few
hundred. For an 80 pound class figure on about $800 for the reel, $300
to $500 for a bent butt rod and about $125 for line, about $1,300, give
or take a little. A 70 pound setup should go about $1,000, give or take
some and a 50 pound set up around $700. You can go cheaper by getting
factory made rods, and less expensive reels, but these are probably
good numbers for Penn set ups.

I remenber the first time I fished for "big game", and saw those rods
and reels. The boat owner looked at me and said, "son, if you're going
bear hunting, bring the big guns, leave the little one's home", and he
was right.

John

Big fishing reels, what do they cost?
 

Harry Krause wrote:

On 1/15/2007 2:36 PM, Tim wrote:

The break down of pricing that you all have listed reminds me of the
big sign in the Wayne Co. Speed Shop in Fairfield IL.

"Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?.."


Capt John wrote:

Tim wrote:

OK, I ove watching "The Water Channel" (217 on DishNetwork) and
tonight they had some big "Bluewater Battle wagon" Out trolling for
Blue Marlin.

I was watching these people who pay a kings ransom to go do some heavy
duty catching, and they had these very large, black (carbon graphite?)
rods, whith large gold colored reels. About as big as a medium-sized
coffe can.

The only thig I've really ever used to fish with, was the Zebco 202 kit
that my Grandpa bought for me for my 8th birthday.

Obvious comparisons are similar to a Yugo to a Rolls Royce.

I know different items draw different pricing, but on about an average,
what does one of those fishing rigs cost? I know it's more than a
buck-49.

Tim,

Figure on a 130 pound class rod costing about $1,200 for the reel,
another $600 to $800 for a custom bent butt rod and about $200 for
line. So your in the neighborhood of $2,000 a rod, give or take a few
hundred. For an 80 pound class figure on about $800 for the reel, $300
to $500 for a bent butt rod and about $125 for line, about $1,300, give
or take a little. A 70 pound setup should go about $1,000, give or take
some and a 50 pound set up around $700. You can go cheaper by getting
factory made rods, and less expensive reels, but these are probably
good numbers for Penn set ups.

I remenber the first time I fished for "big game", and saw those rods
and reels. The boat owner looked at me and said, "son, if you're going
bear hunting, bring the big guns, leave the little one's home", and he
was right.

John




I wish there was a reasonable way to discourage fishermen from catching
these pelagics for sport. I used to be guilty of it, but the more I
learned of the damage done to these magnificent fish, the more I moved
away from this kind of fishing. Nowadays, I just go after plentiful
table fish, and not that many of them at one time, or I fly fish in
fresh water for smallies and trout, and release them. The kind of fresh
water fishing we do is much easier on the fish than most salt water
fishing.

Good for you! Try shooting at them with your Glock at 1000 yards from
your lobster boat.

Guess you will need a lobster boat first.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Big fishing reels, what do they cost?
 

Harry Krause wrote:

Nowadays, I just go after plentiful
table fish, and not that many of them at one time, or I fly fish in
fresh water for smallies and trout, and release them. The kind of fresh
water fishing we do is much easier on the fish than most salt water
fishing.

Harry, I don't know if it's that much easier on the "table" fish,
especially when you're going to eat it...

*ducking*

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I just finished a couple of rods for a client in Bimini - specialized
for heavy shark fishing - $900 just for the components.

Tom, what that just for the rod[s] only? or the complete kit. reel and
all?

Big fishing reels, what do they cost?
 

Tim wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I just finished a couple of rods for a client in Bimini - specialized
for heavy shark fishing - $900 just for the components.

Tom, what that just for the rod[s] only? or the complete kit. reel and
all?

"specialized" ?

I think I answered my own quesiton.

Rods alone.

Big fishing reels, what do they cost?
 

On 16 Jan 2007 07:56:41 -0800, "Tim" wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
I just finished a couple of rods for a client in Bimini - specialized
for heavy shark fishing - $900 just for the components.

Tom, what that just for the rod[s] only? or the complete kit. reel and
all?

Tim, you can spend thousands for a deep sea rig, or hundreds - maybe
less than a hundred if you look hard. No different than buying a car.
A Chevy will get you to the same place as a Rolls with the biggest
difference being bragging rights.
Just mentioned that because nobody else has.
Hell, there's people fishing with twine and safety pins.
Not suggesting that works for tuna, but you get the drift.
Getting out there is the real expense, not the expensive reel.

--Vic

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Vic Smith wrote:


Hell, there's people fishing with twine and safety pins.
Not suggesting that works for tuna, but you get the drift.
Getting out there is the real expense, not the expensive reel.

--Vic

I can't tell you how many fish my Grandpa caught with a bamboo pole or
just a stick a hook and a worm grasshopper, or a junebug.

I suppose for big blue water you could always use some nylon cloths
line, a grappling hook, and some calves liver....

Big fishing reels, what do they cost?
 

On 16 Jan 2007 14:36:39 -0800, "Tim" wrote:


Vic Smith wrote:


Hell, there's people fishing with twine and safety pins.
Not suggesting that works for tuna, but you get the drift.
Getting out there is the real expense, not the expensive reel.

--Vic

I can't tell you how many fish my Grandpa caught with a bamboo pole or
just a stick a hook and a worm grasshopper, or a junebug.

I suppose for big blue water you could always use some nylon cloths
line, a grappling hook, and some calves liver....

Hehe. Caught plenty with bamboo and hoppers myself.
BTW, the only time I ever fished off my navy can was when anchored in
the V.I.'s. Found the rod locker and put on a piece of stinking ham I
pulled from a bone in the galley trash.
Hooked something right off and it just moved away at about 3 knots
until the line ran out. Couldn't slow it down a bit. It didn't even
know it was hooked.
I like to think it was a 500 lb. Jewfish, but it was probably just a
sub. Don't get me wrong about fishing gear. I like good stuff, but
when the price gets high enough I'm perfectly happy to buy used.
I'd feel pretty bad spending k's to get skunked when I can get
skunked for a couple hundred.

--Vic

Big fishing reels, what do they cost?
 

On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:46:29 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

One of my Dad's friends had one of the funniest WWII stories about
hooking a sub I ever heard.

The short of it he thought it was a fish and wouldn't let the rod go -
pulled him right off the stern of a DE.

Heh. Must have had a better rod and line than that piece of junk my
can provided. Only way I could have been pulled off was if I tied the
line to my.......

--Vic

Big fishing reels, what do they cost?
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:22:26 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

I like to think it was a 500 lb. Jewfish, but it was probably just a
sub.

ROTFL!!

One of my Dad's friends had one of the funniest WWII stories about
hooking a sub I ever heard.

The short of it he thought it was a fish and wouldn't let the rod go -
pulled him right off the stern of a DE.
\
Better than the sub hooking a net from a net boat. That happened off SF
some years ago.

Big fishing reels, what do they cost?
 

What all did you catch while sitting on the can?

(snarf!)




Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:46:29 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

One of my Dad's friends had one of the funniest WWII stories about
hooking a sub I ever heard.

The short of it he thought it was a fish and wouldn't let the rod go -
pulled him right off the stern of a DE.

Heh. Must have had a better rod and line than that piece of junk my
can provided. Only way I could have been pulled off was if I tied the
line to my.......

--Vic

Big fishing reels, what do they cost?
 

On 22 Jan 2007 16:08:19 -0800, "Tim" wrote:

What all did you catch while sitting on the can?

(snarf!)

Just crabs. Hey, that snarfing sounds pretty bad. Hope it gets
better.

--Vic