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Addendum to Clausewitz
by Fred Reed


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It's all but official: The war in Iraq is lost. Report after leaked
report says so. Everybody in Washington knows it except that
draft-dodging ferret in the White House. Politicians scurry to avoid
the blame. One day soon people will ask aloud: How did we let 3000 GIs
die for the weak ego of a pampered liar and his desperate need to
prove he's half the man his father was?

The troops from now on will die for a war that they already know is
over. They are dying for politicians. They are dying for nothing. By
now they must know it. It happened to us, too, long ago.

The talk among pols now is about finding an "exit strategy." This
means a way of pulling out without risking too many seats in Congress.
Screw the troops. We must look to the elections. Do we really want an
exit strategy? A friend of mine, with two tours in heavy combat in
another war, has devised a splendid exit strategy. It consists of five
words: "OK. On the plane. Now." Bring your toothbrush. Everything else
stays. We're outa here.

It is a workable exit strategy, one with teeth, and comprehensible to
all. But we won't use it. We will continue killing our men,
calculatedly, cynically, for the benefit of politicians. The important
thing, you see, is the place in history of Bush Puppy. Screw the troops.

Face it. The soldiers are being used. They are being suckered. This
isn't new. It happened to my generation. Long after we knew that the
war in Vietnam was lost, Lyndon Johnson kept it going to fertilize his
vanity, and then Nixon spoke of the need to "save face"-at two hundred
dead GIs a week. But of course Johnson and Nixon weren't among the
dead, or among the GIs.

I saw an interview on television long ago in which the reporter asked
an infantryman near Danang, I think, what he thought of Nixon's plan
to save face. "His face, our ass," was the reply. Just so, then, and
just so now. Screw the troops. What the hell, they breed fast in
Kansas anyway.

Soldiers are succinct and do not mince words. This makes them
dangerous. We must keep them off-camera to the extent possible. A GI
telling the truth could set recruiting back by years.

The truth is that the government doesn't care about its soldiers, and
never has. If you think I am being unduly harsh, read the Washington
Post. You will find story after story saying that the Democrats don't
want to do anything drastic about the war. They fear seeming "soft on
national security." In other words, they care more about their
electoral prospects in 2008 than they do about the lives of GIs. It's
no secret. For them it is a matter of tuning the spin, of covering
tracks, of calculating the vector sum of the ardent-patriot vote which
may be cooling, deciding which way the liberal wind blows, and staying
poised to seem to have supported whoever wins. Screw the troops. Their
fathers probably work in factories anyway.

Soldiers do not realize, until too late, the contempt in which they
are held by their betters. Here is the psychological foundation of the
hobbyist wars of bus-station presidents. If you are, say, a Lance
Corporal in some miserable region of Iraq, I have a question for you:
Would your commanding general let you date his daughter? I spent my
high-school years on a naval base, Dahlgren Naval Proving Ground as it
was then called. Dahlgren was heavy with officers, scientists, and
engineers. Their daughters, my classmates, were not allowed to
associate with sailors. Oh yes, we honor our fighting men. We hold
them in endless respect. Yes we do.

For that matter, Lance Corporal, ask how many members of Congress have
even served, much less been in combat. Ask how many have children in
the armed services. Look around you. Do you see many (any) guys from
Harvard? Yale? MIT? Cornell? Exactly. The smart, the well-off, the
powerful are not about to risk their irreplaceable sit-parts in
combat. Nor are they going to mix with mere high-school graduates,
with kids from small towns in Tennessee, with blue-collar riffraff who
bowl and drink Bud at places with names like Lenny's Rib Room. One
simply doesn't. One has standards.

You are being suckered, gang, just as we were.

It is a science. The government hires slick PR firms and ad agencies
in New York. These study what things make a young stud want to be A
Soldier: a desire to prove himself, to get laid in foreign places, a
craving for adventure, a desire to feel part of something big and
powerful and respected, what have you. They know exactly what they are
doing. They craft phrases, "Be a Man Among Men," or "A Few Good Men,"
or, since girls don't like those two, "The Few, The Proud." Join up
and be Superman.

Then comes the calculated psychological conditioning. There is for
example the sense of power and unity that comes of running to cadence
with a platoon of other guys, thump, thump, thump, all shouting to the
heady rhythm of boots, "If I die on the Russian front, bury me with a
Russian c__t, Lef-rye-lef-rye-lef-rye-lef..." That was Parris Island,
August of '66, and doubtless they say something else now, but the
principle is the same.

And so you come out in splendid physical shape and feeling no end
manly and they tell you how noble it is to Fight for Your Country.
This might be true if anyone were invading the country. But since
Washington always invades somebody else, you are actually fighting for
Big Oil, or Israel, or the defense industry, or the sexual ambiguities
who staff National Review, or the vanity of that moral dwarf on
Pennsylvania Avenue. You will figure this out years later.

Once you are in the war, you can't get out. We couldn't either. While
your commander in chief eats steak in the White House and talks tough,
just like a real president, you kill people you have no reason to
kill, about whom you know next to nothing-which one day may weigh on
your conscience. It does with a lot of guys, but that comes later.

You are being suckered, and so are the social classes that supply the
military. Note that the Pentagon cracks down hard on troops who say
the wrong things online, that the White House won't allow coffins to
be photographed, that the networks never give soldiers a chance to
talk unedited about what is happening. Oh no. It is crucial to keep
morale up among the rubes. You are the rubes. So, once, were we.





December 18, 2006

Fred Reed is author of Nekkid in Austin: Drop Your Inner Child Down a Well
and the just-published A Brass Pole in Bangkok: A Thing I Aspire to Be.

2006 Fred Reed

And the political hacks in Washington DC refuse to seal our borders
against the flow of illegal aliens.

Max

Ah! this weekend the weather is supposed to be in the mid 50's . I
kinda like this "global warming". or at least, this S. Illinois
warming.

My nephew will probably want to take his boat out Sat.. Now that might
be aranged!







wrote:
On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 22:01:26 GMT, (-) wrote:


http://www.lewrockwell.com/reed/reed116.html


Addendum to Clausewitz
by Fred Reed


DIGG THIS


It's all but official: The war in Iraq is lost. Report after leaked
report says so. Everybody in Washington knows it except that
draft-dodging ferret in the White House. Politicians scurry to avoid
the blame. One day soon people will ask aloud: How did we let 3000 GIs
die for the weak ego of a pampered liar and his desperate need to
prove he's half the man his father was?

The troops from now on will die for a war that they already know is
over. They are dying for politicians. They are dying for nothing. By
now they must know it. It happened to us, too, long ago.

The talk among pols now is about finding an "exit strategy." This
means a way of pulling out without risking too many seats in Congress.
Screw the troops. We must look to the elections. Do we really want an
exit strategy? A friend of mine, with two tours in heavy combat in
another war, has devised a splendid exit strategy. It consists of five
words: "OK. On the plane. Now." Bring your toothbrush. Everything else
stays. We're outa here.

It is a workable exit strategy, one with teeth, and comprehensible to
all. But we won't use it. We will continue killing our men,
calculatedly, cynically, for the benefit of politicians. The important
thing, you see, is the place in history of Bush Puppy. Screw the troops.

Face it. The soldiers are being used. They are being suckered. This
isn't new. It happened to my generation. Long after we knew that the
war in Vietnam was lost, Lyndon Johnson kept it going to fertilize his
vanity, and then Nixon spoke of the need to "save face"-at two hundred
dead GIs a week. But of course Johnson and Nixon weren't among the
dead, or among the GIs.

I saw an interview on television long ago in which the reporter asked
an infantryman near Danang, I think, what he thought of Nixon's plan
to save face. "His face, our ass," was the reply. Just so, then, and
just so now. Screw the troops. What the hell, they breed fast in
Kansas anyway.

Soldiers are succinct and do not mince words. This makes them
dangerous. We must keep them off-camera to the extent possible. A GI
telling the truth could set recruiting back by years.

The truth is that the government doesn't care about its soldiers, and
never has. If you think I am being unduly harsh, read the Washington
Post. You will find story after story saying that the Democrats don't
want to do anything drastic about the war. They fear seeming "soft on
national security." In other words, they care more about their
electoral prospects in 2008 than they do about the lives of GIs. It's
no secret. For them it is a matter of tuning the spin, of covering
tracks, of calculating the vector sum of the ardent-patriot vote which
may be cooling, deciding which way the liberal wind blows, and staying
poised to seem to have supported whoever wins. Screw the troops. Their
fathers probably work in factories anyway.

Soldiers do not realize, until too late, the contempt in which they
are held by their betters. Here is the psychological foundation of the
hobbyist wars of bus-station presidents. If you are, say, a Lance
Corporal in some miserable region of Iraq, I have a question for you:
Would your commanding general let you date his daughter? I spent my
high-school years on a naval base, Dahlgren Naval Proving Ground as it
was then called. Dahlgren was heavy with officers, scientists, and
engineers. Their daughters, my classmates, were not allowed to
associate with sailors. Oh yes, we honor our fighting men. We hold
them in endless respect. Yes we do.

For that matter, Lance Corporal, ask how many members of Congress have
even served, much less been in combat. Ask how many have children in
the armed services. Look around you. Do you see many (any) guys from
Harvard? Yale? MIT? Cornell? Exactly. The smart, the well-off, the
powerful are not about to risk their irreplaceable sit-parts in
combat. Nor are they going to mix with mere high-school graduates,
with kids from small towns in Tennessee, with blue-collar riffraff who
bowl and drink Bud at places with names like Lenny's Rib Room. One
simply doesn't. One has standards.

You are being suckered, gang, just as we were.

It is a science. The government hires slick PR firms and ad agencies
in New York. These study what things make a young stud want to be A
Soldier: a desire to prove himself, to get laid in foreign places, a
craving for adventure, a desire to feel part of something big and
powerful and respected, what have you. They know exactly what they are
doing. They craft phrases, "Be a Man Among Men," or "A Few Good Men,"
or, since girls don't like those two, "The Few, The Proud." Join up
and be Superman.

Then comes the calculated psychological conditioning. There is for
example the sense of power and unity that comes of running to cadence
with a platoon of other guys, thump, thump, thump, all shouting to the
heady rhythm of boots, "If I die on the Russian front, bury me with a
Russian c__t, Lef-rye-lef-rye-lef-rye-lef..." That was Parris Island,
August of '66, and doubtless they say something else now, but the
principle is the same.

And so you come out in splendid physical shape and feeling no end
manly and they tell you how noble it is to Fight for Your Country.
This might be true if anyone were invading the country. But since
Washington always invades somebody else, you are actually fighting for
Big Oil, or Israel, or the defense industry, or the sexual ambiguities
who staff National Review, or the vanity of that moral dwarf on
Pennsylvania Avenue. You will figure this out years later.

Once you are in the war, you can't get out. We couldn't either. While
your commander in chief eats steak in the White House and talks tough,
just like a real president, you kill people you have no reason to
kill, about whom you know next to nothing-which one day may weigh on
your conscience. It does with a lot of guys, but that comes later.

You are being suckered, and so are the social classes that supply the
military. Note that the Pentagon cracks down hard on troops who say
the wrong things online, that the White House won't allow coffins to
be photographed, that the networks never give soldiers a chance to
talk unedited about what is happening. Oh no. It is crucial to keep
morale up among the rubes. You are the rubes. So, once, were we.





December 18, 2006

Fred Reed is author of Nekkid in Austin: Drop Your Inner Child Down a Well
and the just-published A Brass Pole in Bangkok: A Thing I Aspire to Be.

2006 Fred Reed

And the political hacks in Washington DC refuse to seal our borders
against the flow of illegal aliens.

Max

Yeah the time to increase troop strength was 3 years ago....... not
today the war is lost, because the president is a moron........

murtha is right redeploy to permiter and let Iraquis decide their fate,
sercure the borders so the war doesnt spread....

instability breeds instability, bush hgas destabilized the entire area.

what we need is some BIG war protests spreading thruout the US, the
democrats in congress will see it as a sign to ramp down war funding,
which is the only way to end this war.

I expect some attacks on the iraq red and green zones, tpo rtry and
free saddam befoire he is executed. this is way past due.

killing saddam will trigger a all out civil war

Another useful concept to bear in mind when disposing of human waste is
that two types of bacteria eat this stuff in the holding tank.

Aerobic bacteria needs oxygen to survive. Aerobic bacteria generally
don't stink.
Anerobic bacteria emerge wihen there is no oxygen available in the
holding tank, and they tend to stink pretty badly.

Assuring the presence of some oxygen in the holding tank will help
control smells.

Another useful concept to bear in mind when disposing of human waste is
that two types of bacteria eat this stuff in the holding tank.

Aerobic bacteria needs oxygen to survive. Aerobic bacteria generally
don't stink.
Anerobic bacteria emerge wihen there is no oxygen available in the
holding tank, and they tend to stink pretty badly.

Assuring the presence of some oxygen in the holding tank will help
control smells.

Chuck Gould wrote:
Another useful concept to bear in mind when disposing of human waste is
that two types of bacteria eat this stuff in the holding tank.

Aerobic bacteria needs oxygen to survive. Aerobic bacteria generally
don't stink.
Anerobic bacteria emerge wihen there is no oxygen available in the
holding tank, and they tend to stink pretty badly.

Assuring the presence of some oxygen in the holding tank will help
control smells.

I have a vent for my holding tank, but I know that is not enough oxygen,
because it does stink. What system allows enough oxygen to promote
aerobic bacteria?

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Another useful concept to bear in mind when disposing of human waste is
that two types of bacteria eat this stuff in the holding tank.

Aerobic bacteria needs oxygen to survive. Aerobic bacteria generally
don't stink.
Anerobic bacteria emerge wihen there is no oxygen available in the
holding tank, and they tend to stink pretty badly.

Assuring the presence of some oxygen in the holding tank will help
control smells.

I have a vent for my holding tank, but I know that is not enough oxygen,
because it does stink. What system allows enough oxygen to promote
aerobic bacteria?

SeaLand makes, (I believe still) a sort of "bubbler" that can be
inserted into the holding tank.
The device pumps in air, much like an aquarium stone. Coupled with a
vent of adequate size and design, pumping a bit of air into the tank
and through the effluent will diminish the smell.

There are Aerobic bacteria additives sold for septic tanks and a marine
version developed by Peggie Hall (then sold to Raritan) that can be
added to a holding tank to reduce odors, but it would seem reasonable
that once aerobic bacteria are introduced their effectiveness would be
enhanced with adequate oxygen.

Chuck Gould wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Another useful concept to bear in mind when disposing of human waste is
that two types of bacteria eat this stuff in the holding tank.

Aerobic bacteria needs oxygen to survive. Aerobic bacteria generally
don't stink.
Anerobic bacteria emerge wihen there is no oxygen available in the
holding tank, and they tend to stink pretty badly.

Assuring the presence of some oxygen in the holding tank will help
control smells.

I have a vent for my holding tank, but I know that is not enough oxygen,
because it does stink. What system allows enough oxygen to promote
aerobic bacteria?

SeaLand makes, (I believe still) a sort of "bubbler" that can be
inserted into the holding tank.
The device pumps in air, much like an aquarium stone. Coupled with a
vent of adequate size and design, pumping a bit of air into the tank
and through the effluent will diminish the smell.

There are Aerobic bacteria additives sold for septic tanks and a marine
version developed by Peggie Hall (then sold to Raritan) that can be
added to a holding tank to reduce odors, but it would seem reasonable
that once aerobic bacteria are introduced their effectiveness would be
enhanced with adequate oxygen.

I use Peggies product, and it helps, to keep the stink from coming back
into the head, but when the boat rocks, and the wind is blowing just the
right way, you can get a great whiff from the stink coming from the vent.

The key I have found to keep the stink from coming into the head and
vberth is to keep the bowl full of water or antifreeze in the winter.

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:

I use Peggies product, and it helps, to keep the stink from coming back
into the head, but when the boat rocks, and the wind is blowing just the
right way, you can get a great whiff from the stink coming from the vent.

The key I have found to keep the stink from coming into the head and
vberth is to keep the bowl full of water or antifreeze in the winter.

I'm sorry, Reggie.

I didn't read down the listings far enough before I jumped the gun with
my last post

subject changed from
"Everybody in Washington knows it except that draft-dodging
ferret in the White House."
to
OT: "Everybody in Washington knows it except that
draft-dodging ferret in the White House."

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 06:18:04 -0700, wrote:
snip
It's all but official: The war in Iraq is lost. Report after leaked
report says so. Everybody in Washington knows it except that
draft-dodging ferret in the White House.
snip
========================
This sort of personal attack obscures any message you may be
attempting to send. A difference of perception does not make the
person evil, even if wrong.

Of greater concern is the creation of a new "Africa Command" by
the US Army followed almost at once by the active/overt
involvement of Ethiopia in the Somalia civil war. Given the
poverty of the region, it appears one of the "great" powers is
again financing a war. Does anyone know what large amounts of
"aid" or credits for food have been granted to Ethiopia in the
last few weeks?

This is how the Iran/Iraq war was started/maintained with
financing through the "Food for Peace" program. Google on
Atlanta "Banca Nazionale del Lavoro"
goto
http://www.gao.gov/cgi-bin/getrpt?GAO/NSIAD-91-76
http://demopedia.democraticundergrou...hp/Lavoro_Bank
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/refere...rg&match=exact
among many others

It is suspected than many similar schemes were in operation, but
have not yet been uncovered.

It is wisely said that the only thing we learn from history is
that no one ever learns anything from history.

Where's the prime directive when we need it?