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UglyDan®©™ December 19th 06 04:26 PM

An open apology to Bassy and Dan..
 
Hey Bassy, In one of the other threads you mentioned messing around with
a Flight Sim.
I was wondering what type you're using. I picked up the latest MS FSX
last week, and had to upgrade my computer, put in a new Nvidia geforce
7600-gs graphic card, power supply from 300w to 500w, and added another
1gb ram.
It helped a bit,but I'm still not getting decent FPS unless I stay away
from the major cities.
Just wondering. UD





basskisser December 19th 06 04:47 PM

An open apology to Bassy and Dan..
 

UglyDan®©™ wrote:
Hey Bassy, In one of the other threads you mentioned messing around with
a Flight Sim.
I was wondering what type you're using. I picked up the latest MS FSX
last week, and had to upgrade my computer, put in a new Nvidia geforce
7600-gs graphic card, power supply from 300w to 500w, and added another
1gb ram.
It helped a bit,but I'm still not getting decent FPS unless I stay away
from the major cities.
Just wondering. UD


Dan, I was using MS Flight Sim 98 until I got MS Flight Sim X, which is
way cooler! What exactly happens, does the screen seem to step or jump
for lack of better words? My computer is new, and I think it may have
the same graphics card as yours. I'll look into it. But, I'm not having
any problems with Flight Sim X. I'll look this evening and find out
exactly what I have for graphics, etc. and let you know! I successfully
flew with another person via broadband for the first time ever the
other night, now that's fun! Anyway, I'll get back to you about my
particular hardware, hope it will help. Nothing worse than trying to
fly a 747 with the screen jerking around!


UglyDan®©™ December 19th 06 06:09 PM

An open apology to Bassy and Dan..
 

(basskisser) wrote
Dan, I was using MS Flight Sim 98 until I got MS Flight Sim X, which is
way cooler! What exactly happens, does the screen seem to step or jump
for lack of better words? My computer is new, and I think it may have
the same graphics card as yours. I'll look into it. But, I'm not having
any problems with Flight Sim X. I'll look this evening and find out
exactly what I have for graphics, etc. and let you know! I successfully
flew with another person via broadband for the first time ever the other
night, now that's fun! Anyway, I'll get back to you about my particular
hardware, hope it will help. Nothing worse than trying to fly a 747 with
the screen jerking around!

Bassy. The frame rates are really slow around the big Metro areas, so
yes its like stepping.
I started with MS 2004 using a Saitek joystick with a 17" monitor. Now
using CH products flight sim yoke, and rudder pedals with a Olevia 28"
monitor, big difference! I've yet been able to land the 747 without
crashing, but have done ok with the others. and most of the missions.
UD







basskisser December 19th 06 06:41 PM

An open apology to Bassy and Dan..
 

UglyDan®©™ wrote:
(basskisser) wrote
Dan, I was using MS Flight Sim 98 until I got MS Flight Sim X, which is
way cooler! What exactly happens, does the screen seem to step or jump
for lack of better words? My computer is new, and I think it may have
the same graphics card as yours. I'll look into it. But, I'm not having
any problems with Flight Sim X. I'll look this evening and find out
exactly what I have for graphics, etc. and let you know! I successfully
flew with another person via broadband for the first time ever the other
night, now that's fun! Anyway, I'll get back to you about my particular
hardware, hope it will help. Nothing worse than trying to fly a 747 with
the screen jerking around!

Bassy. The frame rates are really slow around the big Metro areas, so
yes its like stepping.
I started with MS 2004 using a Saitek joystick with a 17" monitor. Now
using CH products flight sim yoke, and rudder pedals with a Olevia 28"
monitor, big difference! I've yet been able to land the 747 without
crashing, but have done ok with the others. and most of the missions.
UD


I'll bet with slow frame rates (THAT'S the expression I was looking
for!) it would be hard to land a 747. I've landed them quite a few
times successfully. I've just get a decent CH joystick. I'd like to
move up to yoke and rudder pedals. Can yours be used for racing sim,
too? I'm wondering if your big monitor has anything to do with it? I've
just got a 17 LCD. Or maybe they've made improvements in FS X. I'd
think it would be more of a resource hog because I'll tell you, it's
one huge program! But, the only time I notice things getting steppy in
metro areas is if I have a lot of stuff running in the background.
Again, I'll check out my exact set up and let you know. How are you
doing flying that damned helicopter? I can handle the 747 much easier!


Steve December 20th 06 01:23 AM

An open apology to Bassy and Dan..
 
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:26:47 -0800, (UglyDan®©™)
wrote:

Hey Bassy, In one of the other threads you mentioned messing around with
a Flight Sim.
I was wondering what type you're using. I picked up the latest MS FSX
last week, and had to upgrade my computer, put in a new Nvidia geforce
7600-gs graphic card, power supply from 300w to 500w, and added another
1gb ram.
It helped a bit,but I'm still not getting decent FPS unless I stay away
from the major cities.
Just wondering. UD


I happen to know a little bit about flight sims so I guess I'll chime
in.

I've tried the FSX demo for a bit and it's ok. I get a decent usuable
frame rate even with bumping up the details to high. With the default
detail level, there's no jumping at all on my system. I'm sure I
wouldn't be able to use high details in a city though. I use it on a
laptop with an Intel 1.66GHz core 2 duo, 1GB PC5400 667MHz memory,
256MB ATI Radeon X1400 graphics driving a 40" LCD flat panel monitor.
The laptop is only a 15" widescreen, which looks pretty good too. But
that 40" LCD flat panel is incredible.

If you have a dual core processor, let me know and I'll give you a
little procedure I use to get MS FSX to use both cores and give you a
little better frame rate.

Now, if you want a "real" flight simulator with a much better motion
model and more realistic flying, try X-Plane.
http://www.x-plane.com/
I get a much better frame rate with X-Plane than with MS FSX on my
system.

You can download and try out the demo version there as well. It's
fully functional for I think 6 minutes, but only comes with a tiny bit
of detailed scenery. The full world scenery takes up 60gig of disk
space. You don't have to load all of that though.

You'll never have as much fun as I have flying X-Plane at work, with a
3 flat panel video system that practically envelopes you, and using
the Thrustmaster Cougar HOTAS controller, landing a fighter on a
carrier deck. The Cougar is even better than the CH products
controllers that X-Plane recommends, and the CH is pretty damn good.

Now, if you're REALLY into flight simming and want the best
controllers for x-plane or FSX where price is no object, check out the
yokes, pedals, avionics and even entire flight consoles at
http://www.flypfc.com/

You want to fly an absolutely realistic Space Shuttle landing? You
want to see what it's like to fly a plane on Mars? You want to design
your own plane with realistic flight dynamics? You want to run the
same flight simulator on Windows, a Mac, or even Linux? Try X-Plane.

Steve

UglyDan®©™ December 20th 06 09:46 PM

An open apology to Bassy and Dan..
 

(basskisser) wrote
Dan, I was using MS Flight Sim 98 until I got MS Flight Sim X, which is
way cooler! What exactly happens, does the screen seem to step or jump
for lack of better words? My computer is new, and I think it may have
the same graphics card as yours. I'll look into it. But, I'm not having
any problems with Flight Sim X. I'll look this evening and find out
exactly what I have for graphics, etc. and let you know! I successfully
flew with another person via broadband for the first time ever the other
night, now that's fun! Anyway, I'll get back to you about my particular
hardware, hope it will help. Nothing worse than trying to fly a 747 with
the screen jerking around!
Bassy. The frame rates are really slow around the big Metro areas, so
yes its like stepping.
I started with MS 2004 using a Saitek joystick with a 17" monitor. Now
using CH products flight sim yoke, and rudder pedals with a Olevia 28"
monitor, big difference! I've yet been able to land the 747 without
crashing, but have done ok with the others. and most of the missions. UD
I'll bet with slow frame rates (THAT'S the expression I was looking
for!) it would be hard to land a 747. I've landed them quite a few times
successfully. I've just get a decent CH joystick. I'd like to move up to
yoke and rudder pedals. Can yours be used for racing sim, too? I'm
wondering if your big monitor has anything to do with it? I've just got
a 17 LCD. Or maybe they've made improvements in FS X. I'd think it would
be more of a resource hog because I'll tell you, it's one huge program!
But, the only time I notice things getting steppy in metro areas is if I
have a lot of stuff running in the background. Again, I'll check out my
exact set up and let you know. How are you doing flying that damned
helicopter? I can handle the 747 much easier!

According to the CH products manual both the pedals and yoke can be used
for automobile sims, I tried the helo's a few times, but I suck at it.
I'm mostly interested in the single engine piston planes, 172's, 152's
and 150's since this spring I'm going for my PPL, and if all works out
then I'll be shopping for either a 150 or 152.
Just to keep boats in the subject you can get downloads to add to FSX at
www.fs-shipyards.com or org. Can't remember right now.
Gotta go get ready for the next PNW storm coming thru tonight, this
keeps up it might be time to look for a genset. Later UD







basskisser December 21st 06 12:55 PM

An open apology to Bassy and Dan..
 

UglyDan®©™ wrote:

According to the CH products manual both the pedals and yoke can be used
for automobile sims, I tried the helo's a few times, but I suck at it.
I'm mostly interested in the single engine piston planes, 172's, 152's
and 150's since this spring I'm going for my PPL, and if all works out
then I'll be shopping for either a 150 or 152.
Just to keep boats in the subject you can get downloads to add to FSX at
www.fs-shipyards.com or org. Can't remember right now.
Gotta go get ready for the next PNW storm coming thru tonight, this
keeps up it might be time to look for a genset. Later UD


Yeah, I mostly fly the single engines too. Although I've never gotten
my PPL, I've been involved in small planes alot. My uncle was an
aviation machinist and worked in the field. I've watched him do
everything, including re-fabric cloth airplanes. I've known many
pilots, including a friend who had his own DC-3 that he flew cargo and
skydivers in.
Anyway, I installed FSX and used the graphics defaults and seems to
work well. When I get a chance I'll crank the detail up and let you
know what happens to mine. It seems as though you have about the same
setup as me hardware wise except I've got a joystick vs. yoke and
pedals, but I"m thinking about getting them! Did you notice any
performance issues when you got the yoke and pedals?



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