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Joe December 12th 06 03:10 PM

Klein Bottle (Navigation on weird worlds)
 

Frogwatch wrote:
Roger Long wrote:


I tried to make a
Klein Bottle without the "junction" by joining the edge(s) of a mobius
strip with strips and fastening them together, tried to make part of a
Projective Plane, etc. My kids do not share this obsession.


My wife has several empty Klein bottles.

Why would your kids want to wear Calvin Klein Obession ?

Joe


Paul Cassel December 13th 06 12:26 AM

Klein Bottle (Navigation on weird worlds)
 
Gene Kearns wrote:
rily
because none of my friends know what it is so they do not appreciate it.

Sure, I remember Cliff Stoll. Thx for the update. I think I'll get
myself one of them there Klein bottles.


Actually, I suspect the Klein cap is more practical.....
http://www.kleinbottle.com/klein_bottle_hats.htm

Their products come with an unrivaled warranty...
http://www.kleinbottle.com/guarantee.htm


Is it really a Klein hat if you can get your head into it?

Jeff December 13th 06 12:43 AM

Klein Bottle (Navigation on weird worlds)
 
Paul Cassel wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
rily
because none of my friends know what it is so they do not appreciate
it.

Sure, I remember Cliff Stoll. Thx for the update. I think I'll get
myself one of them there Klein bottles.


Actually, I suspect the Klein cap is more practical.....
http://www.kleinbottle.com/klein_bottle_hats.htm

Their products come with an unrivaled warranty...
http://www.kleinbottle.com/guarantee.htm


Is it really a Klein hat if you can get your head into it?


You have to be able to get your head around it.

Don White December 13th 06 03:12 AM

Klein Bottle (Navigation on weird worlds)
 
Paul Cassel wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
rily

because none of my friends know what it is so they do not appreciate
it.

Sure, I remember Cliff Stoll. Thx for the update. I think I'll get
myself one of them there Klein bottles.



Actually, I suspect the Klein cap is more practical.....
http://www.kleinbottle.com/klein_bottle_hats.htm

Their products come with an unrivaled warranty...
http://www.kleinbottle.com/guarantee.htm



Is it really a Klein hat if you can get your head into it?


If you like guarantees...try this one...
http://www.tilley.com/guarantee.asp

[email protected] December 13th 06 09:48 AM

Klein Bottle (Navigation on weird worlds)
 
Frogwatch wrote:

Back when I was discussing coord systems for navigating on weird shaped
worlds,


In a really weird shaped world, if you would navigate long
enough you return to your original position and find your
friends have turned to their mirror images. That would
happen to 2-dimensional creatures travelling a (transparent)
mobius band.
http://plus.maths.org/issue26/featur...ndex-gifd.html

someone pointed out that I could actually buy a Kleins bottle
from a company called "ACME Kleins Bottles" so I ordered one. They
also have a great thing called "The Mug of Tantalus" which is a blown
glass beer mug with a siphon built into the handle. You can fill the
mug about halfway with no problem but if you go any higher ALL the
liquid drains out via the siphon. Of course, I bought one for a beer
drinking friend.


A variation of The Mug of Tantalus is known as
Pyhthagoran Mug of Justice.
http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/InventionsP.htm
Pythagoras invented this as he thought his friends were
drinkin all too much. They still make those for tourists to
buy - out of clay, as was the original - on Pyhtagoras' home
island Samos in Greek.

The Klein Bottle is not as cool as I thought it would be primarily
because none of my friends know what it is so they do not appreciate it.


Btw, the story in
http://plus.maths.org/issue26/featur...ndex-gifd.html
suggests, that you make a thermometer out of the Klein
bottle, if you don't know what to do with it.

TC



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