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Richcosta December 5th 06 07:07 PM

Towing with a minivan
 
I am considering purchasing an '06 175, which when on a trailer with
gas will come in at about 2,400 lbs. My Windstar has a towing capacity
of 2,000 lbs. As I will be using the boat at a ramp about 3 miles
away, do I run the risk of fishing my van out of the river?
Thank you.


JoeSpareBedroom December 5th 06 07:16 PM

Towing with a minivan
 
"Richcosta" wrote in message
ups.com...
I am considering purchasing an '06 175, which when on a trailer with
gas will come in at about 2,400 lbs. My Windstar has a towing capacity
of 2,000 lbs. As I will be using the boat at a ramp about 3 miles
away, do I run the risk of fishing my van out of the river?
Thank you.


Maybe, but my first concern would be a combination of :

1- Towing something beyond the published capacity of the van
and
2 - doing so with a transmission of dubious durability
and
3 - You didn't mention how many miles you have on the van, and whether you
had done (or were even aware of) the scheduled maintenance for the tranny.

If your maintenance has been perfect, AND you add a transmission cooler, AND
you know how to change your driving habits to baby the vehicle while towing,
you'll probably get away with it.



Tim December 5th 06 07:36 PM

Towing with a minivan
 


yes, you should add a transmission cooler, and the Windstar should tow
ok, but front wheel drive isn't really recommended for pulling away
from a ramp, especially a steep one.


Richcosta wrote:
I am considering purchasing an '06 175, which when on a trailer with
gas will come in at about 2,400 lbs. My Windstar has a towing capacity
of 2,000 lbs. As I will be using the boat at a ramp about 3 miles
away, do I run the risk of fishing my van out of the river?
Thank you.



Ernest Scribbler December 5th 06 07:46 PM

Towing with a minivan
 
"Richcosta" wrote
do I run the risk of fishing my van out of the river?


Exceeding the vehicle's tow rating is generally unadvisable, but I'll admit
that I towed my Thunderbird S-18, at what's probably close to 3500 pounds,
with my 94 Taurus wagon for three years. Short, infrequent trips, babying it
all the way. Never had a problem.



JR North December 6th 06 01:47 AM

Towing with a minivan
 
Almost all vehicles have a published "tow capacity" for the simple
reason they prolly couldn't sell it without one. This does NOT mean the
vehicle has an "Implied Warranty" of actually being able to tow the
rated capacity without damage or failure. As a rule, wimpy tow ratings
of 2K basically indicate the vehicle should not be realistically
considered for towing anything over, say, a garden trailer to the dump.
Look for your trans to fail, and keep up on your tow insurance and
friendship with the local trans shop.
PS: your Windstar is a POS. And you know it.
JR

ichcosta wrote:
I am considering purchasing an '06 175, which when on a trailer with
gas will come in at about 2,400 lbs. My Windstar has a towing capacity
of 2,000 lbs. As I will be using the boat at a ramp about 3 miles
away, do I run the risk of fishing my van out of the river?
Thank you.



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Tim December 6th 06 02:16 AM

Towing with a minivan
 

JR North wrote:
PS: your Windstar is a POS. And you know it.
JR



Not near a POS as the Aerostar and it was Rear wheel drive. same basic
drive train as a dinky POS Ford Ranger pickup. the Windstar is
better, with the basic drive train as a Taurus.

a three mi. tow shouldn't be bad. on the tranny IMHO especially w/ an
extra cooler, but the ramp Idea is still giddish.


Calif Bill December 6th 06 02:43 AM

Towing with a minivan
 

"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...

JR North wrote:
PS: your Windstar is a POS. And you know it.
JR



Not near a POS as the Aerostar and it was Rear wheel drive. same basic
drive train as a dinky POS Ford Ranger pickup. the Windstar is
better, with the basic drive train as a Taurus.

a three mi. tow shouldn't be bad. on the tranny IMHO especially w/ an
extra cooler, but the ramp Idea is still giddish.


The Aerostar was OK except for the POS tranny. I got 85k before I had to
have it reworked. But I only towed a 14' Aluminum skiff with a 15 hp
Mariner on it.



trainfan1 December 6th 06 03:03 AM

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Calif Bill wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...

JR North wrote:

PS: your Windstar is a POS. And you know it.
JR



Not near a POS as the Aerostar and it was Rear wheel drive. same basic
drive train as a dinky POS Ford Ranger pickup. the Windstar is
better, with the basic drive train as a Taurus.

a three mi. tow shouldn't be bad. on the tranny IMHO especially w/ an
extra cooler, but the ramp Idea is still giddish.



The Aerostar was OK except for the POS tranny. I got 85k before I had to
have it reworked. But I only towed a 14' Aluminum skiff with a 15 hp
Mariner on it.



The AeroStar tows like a truck. The 4WD AeroStar had a HD version of
the A4LD as found in the Explorer and tows very nicely.

The last WindStars, & subsequent FreeStars, have most all of the bugs
worked out and can tow well with the 3.8/3.9/4.2 and the AX4N
transmission. A cooler is a requisite. Going over a ton will
eventually torture the van, though.

A good friend did tow a heavy older pop-up camper with the early 3.0
Windstar. Everything went wrong with that POS EXCEPT the transmission(&
nothing relating to towing). They had to give it away - running, no
rust, but so many little problems including the CEL/MIL/SES DTC light
coming on for so many things it wasn't worth fixing.

Rob

Calif Bill December 6th 06 03:11 AM

Towing with a minivan
 

"trainfan1" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...

JR North wrote:

PS: your Windstar is a POS. And you know it.
JR


Not near a POS as the Aerostar and it was Rear wheel drive. same basic
drive train as a dinky POS Ford Ranger pickup. the Windstar is
better, with the basic drive train as a Taurus.

a three mi. tow shouldn't be bad. on the tranny IMHO especially w/ an
extra cooler, but the ramp Idea is still giddish.



The Aerostar was OK except for the POS tranny. I got 85k before I had to
have it reworked. But I only towed a 14' Aluminum skiff with a 15 hp
Mariner on it.


The AeroStar tows like a truck. The 4WD AeroStar had a HD version of the
A4LD as found in the Explorer and tows very nicely.

The last WindStars, & subsequent FreeStars, have most all of the bugs
worked out and can tow well with the 3.8/3.9/4.2 and the AX4N
transmission. A cooler is a requisite. Going over a ton will eventually
torture the van, though.

A good friend did tow a heavy older pop-up camper with the early 3.0
Windstar. Everything went wrong with that POS EXCEPT the transmission(&
nothing relating to towing). They had to give it away - running, no rust,
but so many little problems including the CEL/MIL/SES DTC light coming on
for so many things it wasn't worth fixing.

Rob


My Aerostar was an 89. Had a lightweight Mazda tranny.



Tim December 6th 06 03:44 AM

Towing with a minivan
 
Interesting about the Aerostar, a friend of mine had one, and after the
second bog $ tran. rebuild, he finally went to a junk yard and got one
out of an '87 Ford Crown Vic.

fit right in, only thing is he had to change the speedo gears.



Calif Bill wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
oups.com...

JR North wrote:
PS: your Windstar is a POS. And you know it.
JR



Not near a POS as the Aerostar and it was Rear wheel drive. same basic
drive train as a dinky POS Ford Ranger pickup. the Windstar is
better, with the basic drive train as a Taurus.

a three mi. tow shouldn't be bad. on the tranny IMHO especially w/ an
extra cooler, but the ramp Idea is still giddish.


The Aerostar was OK except for the POS tranny. I got 85k before I had to
have it reworked. But I only towed a 14' Aluminum skiff with a 15 hp
Mariner on it.




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