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[email protected] December 2nd 06 12:19 AM

European Union DIrective
 
On edit

What effect this has on shipping depends upon the IMO Conventions. As
international agreements they require the EU to bend their rules to
accomodate them.

I havn't found confirmation. But I think Licenced Navigators are
Required to record there speeds, intended and Actual, on the Chart in
Knots. Under the Course line with the heading in degrees above the
course line. Which makes the use of instruments indicating speed in
knots necessary.

J




wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On 1 Dec 2006 14:46:20 -0800, "
wrote:

Another failed EU initiative. Bet the French were behind it. :)


Worse The EU Parliament

Effective 2010 you package marked 5KG (11LB) is Illegal in Europe.
I am sure the bureaucrats there would be perfectly happy forcing the
worlds meritime services to start computing everythin in Meters per
Second. And will disavow any responsibility for any collisions,
groundings etc. that result.

http://ts.nist.gov/WeightsAndMeasure...tive_20102.pdf


keith_nuttle December 2nd 06 02:06 AM

Knots being phased out?
 
I am just a chemist that likes to sail and have spent all of my time on
inland lakes.

I thought it was latitude but could be longitude, but I do remember that
the diameter of the earth at the equator in in knots is equal to 360 X 60.


Capt. JG wrote:
"krj" wrote in message
. ..

Peter Bennett wrote:

On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle
wrote:



Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt it
will ever disappear in earth based navigation.


The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but
the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an
International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or
6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch.




I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not
latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude).
That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure
the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or west
side of the chart.
krj



Where do you guys get this?? You have it 180 degrees backward. Or, is this a
troll? :-)

http://powerboat.about.com/od/forms_..._Longitude.htm


Capt. JG December 2nd 06 02:27 AM

Knots being phased out?
 
Your initial thought was correct.

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"keith_nuttle" wrote in message
t...
I am just a chemist that likes to sail and have spent all of my time on
inland lakes.

I thought it was latitude but could be longitude, but I do remember that
the diameter of the earth at the equator in in knots is equal to 360 X 60.


Capt. JG wrote:
"krj" wrote in message
. ..

Peter Bennett wrote:

On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle
wrote:



Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt
it will ever disappear in earth based navigation.


The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but
the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an
International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or
6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch.




I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not
latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude).
That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure
the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or
west side of the chart.
krj



Where do you guys get this?? You have it 180 degrees backward. Or, is
this a troll? :-)

http://powerboat.about.com/od/forms_..._Longitude.htm




Chuck Tribolet December 2nd 06 03:40 AM

Knots being phased out?
 
MAYBE it will be the default, but knots will still be there. It's all computed in a microprocessor, and it's just a few lines
of firmware to calculate knots, or even furlongs per fortnight..


"Oliver Fleming" wrote in message ...
Hi,
I have been told that all new equipment, chartplotters, speedometers and the like will not have knots as a speed option.
Knots will be phased out and KPH will be the new standard for marine equipment.

Has anybody heard of this?

If so where?

Some links please if available.

Thanks
Oliver Fleming






Calif Bill December 2nd 06 03:48 AM

Knots being phased out?
 

"keith_nuttle" wrote in message
t...
I am just a chemist that likes to sail and have spent all of my time on
inland lakes.

I thought it was latitude but could be longitude, but I do remember that
the diameter of the earth at the equator in in knots is equal to 360 X 60.


Capt. JG wrote:
"krj" wrote in message
. ..

Peter Bennett wrote:

On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 14:12:52 GMT, keith_nuttle
wrote:



Since the nautical mile is defined as one minute of latitude, I doubt
it will ever disappear in earth based navigation.


The Nautical Mile was originally based on a minute of latitude, but
the length of a minute of latitude varies with latitude, so an
International Nautical Mile is now defined as 1852 metres exactly, or
6076.11549 US feet, approximately, according to Bowditch.




I believe that the nautical mile is based on the minute of LONGITUDE not
latitude. Longitude doesn't vary with changes in latitude (or attitude).
That's why when you are using paper charts (remember those) you measure
the distance with your dividers on the longitude scale on the east or
west side of the chart.
krj



Where do you guys get this?? You have it 180 degrees backward. Or, is
this a troll? :-)

http://powerboat.about.com/od/forms_..._Longitude.htm


Don't you mean circumference?



Gordon December 2nd 06 04:31 AM

Knots being phased out?
 
Who needs a knot when you got velcro?

Tim December 2nd 06 04:37 AM

Knots being phased out?
 

Gordon wrote:
Who needs a knot when you got velcro?


concerning in your shorts, at least a knot won't grab you by the short
hairs.


Larry December 2nd 06 06:42 AM

Knots being phased out?
 
"Roger Long" wrote in news:0zWbh.31688$zB4.19393
@twister.nyroc.rr.com:

Isn't KPS "Knots per Hour" = "Knots"?


Knots per hour, would be a unit of acceleration because "knots" means
"nautical miles per hour". Knots per hour = "nautical miles per hour per
hour". We sailors only DREAM of acceleration....(c;

Larry
--
If we eliminate religion, will they stop murdering each other?

Larry December 2nd 06 06:44 AM

Knots being phased out?
 
"Capt. Rob" wrote in news:1164984521.878796.17520
@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:

which is the Klingon
unit


"Klingons have Ridges"....like Ripple potato chips.

Oh, oh....is that a racist statement?! Gotta watch that....

(anonymous)

Larry December 2nd 06 06:46 AM

Knots being phased out?
 
"Capt. JG" wrote in news:12n0t1osgh46l22
@corp.supernews.com:

Is that due to the fogdoppler effect?


No. It's due to them using on of the flawed Pentium processors.



Celerons? Yecch.....

What planet are Celerons native to?



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