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Bert Robbins November 30th 06 01:55 PM

International boaters and fliers;
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:29:41 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/30/2006 7:18 AM, JohnH wrote:
On 29 Nov 2006 21:27:53 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:43:29 -0500, JohnH wrote:

Why make it so hard for American citizens to get in, but so easy for
Mexicans?
We are talking about going through customs, not wading across the
river. I always get waved through with a "do you have anything to
declare" but a latin looking person better have his papers in order.

I am aware of these new rules and I do have a new passport coming,
just in case they are profiling rednecks some day. The picture on mine
looks like my high school yearbook picture and so does my driver's
license. I need to show my CCW if they want a recent picture.
Coming back in by boat is a little more complex than driving across in
a car.

Everybody who isn't previously enrolled in NEXUS or a similar program
has to report to a US Customs Port of Entry. Once there, only the
skipper is allowed to go ashore until cleared by customs and the
skipper has to proceed directly to the customs office. Better have 1)
ship's papers, 2) Photo ID, preferably a passport but in any case
sufficient to prove residence and citizenship, for everybody aboard. 3)
A list of items being brought back into the country. 4) An inventory of
alcohol and tobacco aboard. 5) A disclosure of any firearms on the
boat. 6) A list of fresh fruits and vegetables aboard. 7) $25 to buy a
decal/permit to reenter the US. The decal is an annual deal, so the $25
only applies to the first reentry every year. Boaters who are
pre-screened by the NEXUS or similar programs can clear by telephone
upon reentry, but they must be prepared to report to a Customs Office
if so ordered by the party on the phone.
Sounds fair to me, except that I can't figure out what anyone would be
trying to smuggle in from Canada. :)

Cuban cigars, of course.


True, although I get mine from a different source - a very different
source. :)


I now know why you are/were despondent about selling the Contender. You
were going offshore under the guise of fishing, meeting your Cuban cigar
"dealers" and "importing" Cuban cigars. Now you are going to try and
satisfy your self with the lower quality and class cigars.

JohnH November 30th 06 02:37 PM

International boaters and fliers;
 
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:29:41 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/30/2006 7:18 AM, JohnH wrote:
On 29 Nov 2006 21:27:53 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:43:29 -0500, JohnH wrote:

Why make it so hard for American citizens to get in, but so easy for
Mexicans?
We are talking about going through customs, not wading across the
river. I always get waved through with a "do you have anything to
declare" but a latin looking person better have his papers in order.

I am aware of these new rules and I do have a new passport coming,
just in case they are profiling rednecks some day. The picture on mine
looks like my high school yearbook picture and so does my driver's
license. I need to show my CCW if they want a recent picture.
Coming back in by boat is a little more complex than driving across in
a car.

Everybody who isn't previously enrolled in NEXUS or a similar program
has to report to a US Customs Port of Entry. Once there, only the
skipper is allowed to go ashore until cleared by customs and the
skipper has to proceed directly to the customs office. Better have 1)
ship's papers, 2) Photo ID, preferably a passport but in any case
sufficient to prove residence and citizenship, for everybody aboard. 3)
A list of items being brought back into the country. 4) An inventory of
alcohol and tobacco aboard. 5) A disclosure of any firearms on the
boat. 6) A list of fresh fruits and vegetables aboard. 7) $25 to buy a
decal/permit to reenter the US. The decal is an annual deal, so the $25
only applies to the first reentry every year. Boaters who are
pre-screened by the NEXUS or similar programs can clear by telephone
upon reentry, but they must be prepared to report to a Customs Office
if so ordered by the party on the phone.


Sounds fair to me, except that I can't figure out what anyone would be
trying to smuggle in from Canada. :)
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******


Cuban cigars, of course.


Ah! That makes good sense.
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******

JohnH November 30th 06 02:39 PM

International boaters and fliers;
 
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:25:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On 29 Nov 2006 21:27:53 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:43:29 -0500, JohnH wrote:

Why make it so hard for American citizens to get in, but so easy for
Mexicans?

We are talking about going through customs, not wading across the
river. I always get waved through with a "do you have anything to
declare" but a latin looking person better have his papers in order.

I am aware of these new rules and I do have a new passport coming,
just in case they are profiling rednecks some day. The picture on mine
looks like my high school yearbook picture and so does my driver's
license. I need to show my CCW if they want a recent picture.

Coming back in by boat is a little more complex than driving across in
a car.

Everybody who isn't previously enrolled in NEXUS or a similar program
has to report to a US Customs Port of Entry. Once there, only the
skipper is allowed to go ashore until cleared by customs and the
skipper has to proceed directly to the customs office. Better have 1)
ship's papers, 2) Photo ID, preferably a passport but in any case
sufficient to prove residence and citizenship, for everybody aboard. 3)
A list of items being brought back into the country. 4) An inventory of
alcohol and tobacco aboard. 5) A disclosure of any firearms on the
boat. 6) A list of fresh fruits and vegetables aboard. 7) $25 to buy a
decal/permit to reenter the US. The decal is an annual deal, so the $25
only applies to the first reentry every year. Boaters who are
pre-screened by the NEXUS or similar programs can clear by telephone
upon reentry, but they must be prepared to report to a Customs Office
if so ordered by the party on the phone.


Sounds fair to me, except that I can't figure out what anyone would be
trying to smuggle in from Canada. :)



Real beer.


Our local Safeway sells 'Pilsner Urquell', an import and about as real as
you can get. Of course, I won't buy it because Safeway over prices their
tomatoes.
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******

JohnH November 30th 06 02:40 PM

International boaters and fliers;
 
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:46:46 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:16:36 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:28:27 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:43:29 -0500, JohnH wrote:

Why make it so hard for American citizens to get in, but so easy for
Mexicans?

We are talking about going through customs, not wading across the
river. I always get waved through with a "do you have anything to
declare" but a latin looking person better have his papers in order.

I am aware of these new rules and I do have a new passport coming,
just in case they are profiling rednecks some day. The picture on mine
looks like my high school yearbook picture and so does my driver's
license. I need to show my CCW if they want a recent picture.


I am in the 'everyone should have a passport', or a national ID of some
sort, camp. It works for the Europeans.


We already have one - it's called a driver's license.


No, that's not a mandatory ID, nor is it national.
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******

JohnH November 30th 06 02:42 PM

International boaters and fliers;
 
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:52:26 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/30/2006 7:46 AM, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:16:36 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:28:27 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:43:29 -0500, JohnH wrote:

Why make it so hard for American citizens to get in, but so easy for
Mexicans?
We are talking about going through customs, not wading across the
river. I always get waved through with a "do you have anything to
declare" but a latin looking person better have his papers in order.

I am aware of these new rules and I do have a new passport coming,
just in case they are profiling rednecks some day. The picture on mine
looks like my high school yearbook picture and so does my driver's
license. I need to show my CCW if they want a recent picture.
I am in the 'everyone should have a passport', or a national ID of some
sort, camp. It works for the Europeans.



And it worked for the Nazis and the Soviets, both of whom would "grab"
the national ID of anyone they didn't like. No thanks.


Harry, the ID you've got now could be grabbed just as easily. Why are you
so concerned?
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******

JohnH November 30th 06 06:21 PM

International boaters and fliers;
 
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:14:41 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 09:39:38 -0500, JohnH wrote:

Sounds fair to me, except that I can't figure out what anyone would be
trying to smuggle in from Canada. :)

Real beer.


Our local Safeway sells 'Pilsner Urquell', an import and about as real as
you can get. Of course, I won't buy it because Safeway over prices their
tomatoes.


You won't buy beer from a store because they over price their
tomatoes.

Wow - talk about quantum shopping... :)


Are *you* the kind of person who would buy beer from a place that grossly
overpriced tomatoes?
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******

JohnH November 30th 06 06:22 PM

International boaters and fliers;
 
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:15:26 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 08:48:19 -0500, Bert Robbins
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:16:36 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:28:27 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:43:29 -0500, JohnH wrote:

Why make it so hard for American citizens to get in, but so easy for
Mexicans?
We are talking about going through customs, not wading across the
river. I always get waved through with a "do you have anything to
declare" but a latin looking person better have his papers in order.

I am aware of these new rules and I do have a new passport coming,
just in case they are profiling rednecks some day. The picture on mine
looks like my high school yearbook picture and so does my driver's
license. I need to show my CCW if they want a recent picture.
I am in the 'everyone should have a passport', or a national ID of some
sort, camp. It works for the Europeans.

We already have one - it's called a driver's license.


Some states only require a phone bill or a electric bill to confirm
residency in the state rather than citizenship in the USA.


That's true, but that could be changed easily and with very little
effort.


Besides, the Nazi's, Soviets, and other associated socialists could take
away your electric bill also. Of course they'd wait until you paid it.
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******

JohnH November 30th 06 06:25 PM

International boaters and fliers;
 
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:15:41 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 09:40:43 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 12:46:46 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:16:36 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:28:27 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:43:29 -0500, JohnH wrote:

Why make it so hard for American citizens to get in, but so easy for
Mexicans?

We are talking about going through customs, not wading across the
river. I always get waved through with a "do you have anything to
declare" but a latin looking person better have his papers in order.

I am aware of these new rules and I do have a new passport coming,
just in case they are profiling rednecks some day. The picture on mine
looks like my high school yearbook picture and so does my driver's
license. I need to show my CCW if they want a recent picture.

I am in the 'everyone should have a passport', or a national ID of some
sort, camp. It works for the Europeans.

We already have one - it's called a driver's license.


No, that's not a mandatory ID, nor is it national.


No, but it could be.


'Could' hell, it *should* be. And if they don't drive, they should still
have the card - just no vehicles authorized.
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular****
******and your New Year even Better!******

Calif Bill November 30th 06 09:00 PM

International boaters and fliers;
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 08:55:01 -0500, Bert Robbins
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 07:29:41 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/30/2006 7:18 AM, JohnH wrote:
On 29 Nov 2006 21:27:53 -0800, "Chuck Gould"

wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:43:29 -0500, JohnH
wrote:

Why make it so hard for American citizens to get in, but so easy
for
Mexicans?
We are talking about going through customs, not wading across the
river. I always get waved through with a "do you have anything to
declare" but a latin looking person better have his papers in order.

I am aware of these new rules and I do have a new passport coming,
just in case they are profiling rednecks some day. The picture on
mine
looks like my high school yearbook picture and so does my driver's
license. I need to show my CCW if they want a recent picture.
Coming back in by boat is a little more complex than driving across
in
a car.

Everybody who isn't previously enrolled in NEXUS or a similar program
has to report to a US Customs Port of Entry. Once there, only the
skipper is allowed to go ashore until cleared by customs and the
skipper has to proceed directly to the customs office. Better have 1)
ship's papers, 2) Photo ID, preferably a passport but in any case
sufficient to prove residence and citizenship, for everybody aboard.
3)
A list of items being brought back into the country. 4) An inventory
of
alcohol and tobacco aboard. 5) A disclosure of any firearms on the
boat. 6) A list of fresh fruits and vegetables aboard. 7) $25 to buy
a
decal/permit to reenter the US. The decal is an annual deal, so the
$25
only applies to the first reentry every year. Boaters who are
pre-screened by the NEXUS or similar programs can clear by telephone
upon reentry, but they must be prepared to report to a Customs Office
if so ordered by the party on the phone.
Sounds fair to me, except that I can't figure out what anyone would be
trying to smuggle in from Canada. :)
Cuban cigars, of course.

True, although I get mine from a different source - a very different
source. :)


I now know why you are/were despondent about selling the Contender. You
were going offshore under the guise of fishing, meeting your Cuban cigar
"dealers" and "importing" Cuban cigars. Now you are going to try and
satisfy your self with the lower quality and class cigars.


Oh - very close - but no cigar...

Heh, heh, heh...

Actually, it's pretty simple and if you think about it for a minute,
you'll figure it out.


Bigger boat, import more cigars. Simple.



Calif Bill November 30th 06 09:02 PM

International boaters and fliers;
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
...
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On 29 Nov 2006 21:27:53 -0800, "Chuck Gould"
wrote:


wrote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:43:29 -0500, JohnH wrote:

Why make it so hard for American citizens to get in, but so easy for
Mexicans?

We are talking about going through customs, not wading across the
river. I always get waved through with a "do you have anything to
declare" but a latin looking person better have his papers in order.

I am aware of these new rules and I do have a new passport coming,
just in case they are profiling rednecks some day. The picture on mine
looks like my high school yearbook picture and so does my driver's
license. I need to show my CCW if they want a recent picture.

Coming back in by boat is a little more complex than driving across in
a car.

Everybody who isn't previously enrolled in NEXUS or a similar program
has to report to a US Customs Port of Entry. Once there, only the
skipper is allowed to go ashore until cleared by customs and the
skipper has to proceed directly to the customs office. Better have 1)
ship's papers, 2) Photo ID, preferably a passport but in any case
sufficient to prove residence and citizenship, for everybody aboard. 3)
A list of items being brought back into the country. 4) An inventory of
alcohol and tobacco aboard. 5) A disclosure of any firearms on the
boat. 6) A list of fresh fruits and vegetables aboard. 7) $25 to buy a
decal/permit to reenter the US. The decal is an annual deal, so the $25
only applies to the first reentry every year. Boaters who are
pre-screened by the NEXUS or similar programs can clear by telephone
upon reentry, but they must be prepared to report to a Customs Office
if so ordered by the party on the phone.


Sounds fair to me, except that I can't figure out what anyone would be
trying to smuggle in from Canada. :)



Real beer.


Hey Mable. Carling Black Label?




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