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Hey Chuck...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: I thought it only rained out in Seattle? ~~ snerk ~~ What are you referencing? |
Hey Chuck...
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On 27 Nov 2006 18:15:07 -0800, "Chuck Gould" wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: I thought it only rained out in Seattle? ~~ snerk ~~ What are you referencing? Never mind. It's only the solid form of rain. :) There are at least two solid forms of rain. |
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snow and hail?
Calif Bill wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On 27 Nov 2006 18:15:07 -0800, "Chuck Gould" wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: I thought it only rained out in Seattle? ~~ snerk ~~ What are you referencing? Never mind. It's only the solid form of rain. :) There are at least two solid forms of rain. |
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"Tim" wrote in message oups.com... snow and hail? Calif Bill wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On 27 Nov 2006 18:15:07 -0800, "Chuck Gould" wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: I thought it only rained out in Seattle? ~~ snerk ~~ What are you referencing? Never mind. It's only the solid form of rain. :) There are at least two solid forms of rain. At least. Probably some other esoteric forms also. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On 27 Nov 2006 19:24:58 -0800, "Tim" wrote: snow and hail? Hail, Hail the gang's all here... WTF do we care, WTF do we care... Um.... Sorry - joke gone bad. :) i was gonna say, Aw hail, you didn't have to bring that up , did you? |
Hey Chuck...
There are at least two solid forms of rain.
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Well EEEXXXCCCUUUUUUSEEEEEEE MMMMEEEEE!!!!! PRECIPITATION.... Rain - Liquid Drizzle - liquid, light, moves with air currents Freezing Rain - liquid until hitting a cold surface Freezing Drizzle - see Freezing Rain Hail - precipitation in the form of balls or irregular lumps of ice Snow - precipitation of white or translucent ice crystals Thus ends the meteorological portion of this post which relates to boating because apparently it never snows in the Pacific Northwest where they boat all year 'round. You know, the Eskimos have over 70 words for snow. I wonder how many different words for "rain" they have in Seattle. DSK |
Hey Chuck...
You know, the Eskimos have over 70 words for snow. I wonder
how many different words for "rain" they have in Seattle. Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Just walk into a Starbucks and look at the board with the coffee drink descriptions. With that many ways to describe coffee, it has to be about a bizillion. Years ago, I narrowly escaped getting lynched in Seattle... I went to a couple of different shops & street vendors trying to buy a cup of coffee, and finally in exasperation said out loud "All I want is a PLAIN CUP OF COFFEE!" DSK |
Hey Chuck...
DSK wrote:
There are at least two solid forms of rain. Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Well EEEXXXCCCUUUUUUSEEEEEEE MMMMEEEEE!!!!! PRECIPITATION.... Rain - Liquid Drizzle - liquid, light, moves with air currents Freezing Rain - liquid until hitting a cold surface Freezing Drizzle - see Freezing Rain Hail - precipitation in the form of balls or irregular lumps of ice Snow - precipitation of white or translucent ice crystals Thus ends the meteorological portion of this post which relates to boating because apparently it never snows in the Pacific Northwest where they boat all year 'round. You know, the Eskimos have over 70 words for snow. I wonder how many different words for "rain" they have in Seattle. DSK Doug, That is an often repeated urban legend, the number of words always changes, but the one constant is it is an urban legend |
Hey Chuck...
You know, the Eskimos have over 70 words for snow. I wonder how many
different words for "rain" they have in Seattle. Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Doug, That is an often repeated urban legend, the number of words always changes, but the one constant is it is an urban legend Well, OK, maybe I exaggerate. Then again, maybe not: http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_297.html And here is a revision of the same issue, including comments from a native Koniaq Eskimo who calls the Straight Dope author a dumb redneck (amusing in itself, but unfortunately she doesn't say how many words for snow there are in her language) http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010202.html Regards Doug King |
Hey Chuck...
DSK wrote:
You know, the Eskimos have over 70 words for snow. I wonder how many different words for "rain" they have in Seattle. Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: Doug, That is an often repeated urban legend, the number of words always changes, but the one constant is it is an urban legend Well, OK, maybe I exaggerate. Then again, maybe not: http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_297.html And here is a revision of the same issue, including comments from a native Koniaq Eskimo who calls the Straight Dope author a dumb redneck (amusing in itself, but unfortunately she doesn't say how many words for snow there are in her language) http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010202.html Regards Doug King http://www.derose.net/steve/guides/snowwords/ So how many already? Pullum cites several sources on how many words certain Inuit dialects actually have for snow. The two main ones a The Dictionary of the West Greenlandic Eskimo Language (C. W. Schultz-Lorentzen, Copenhagan: Reitzels, 1927) gives just two words: qanik for snowflakes in the air, and aput for snow on the ground. The Yup'ik Eskimo Dictionary (Steven A. Jacobson, Fairbanks: University of Alaska, 1984) has, according to Pullum's colleague Anthony Woodbury, about 24 if you're very generous. By "very generous", I mean including words for "stuff for sinking habitually into", "blizzard", "avalanche", and so on. So 24 seems to be the outer limit that could be defended, at least for Yup'ik. Unless there are speakers somewhere who make a living by coining new snow-words and selling them.... No one seems to have checked on that possibility. Oh yeah, does English have any words for snow? It's only fair to see how many snow-words we can find in English. I didn't even poke around the OED yet, but even if we skip the inflected forms (snows, snowed, snowing, snowy, snowness, snew, snewn,... well, we weren't going to count those anyway), there is still a veritable hail of terms: berg, cornice, crevasse, floe, frost, glacier, hail, hardpack, hoarfrost, ice, iceball, icecap, iceberg, ice field, icicle, powder, rime, snow, slush, sleet, snowball, snowcap Not to mention a blizzard of words for the parts of snow and for snow as a weather condition: avalanche, blizzard, dusting, flurry, ice crystal, ice storm And the list snowballs as we notice compound words related to snow (excluding snow-related objects like snowboards and snowshovels): snowball, snowbank, snowcapped, snowdrift, snowfall, snowflake, snowlike, snowman, snowstorm And let us not forget the storm of words that are spelled with a space in them: phrases that have (arguably, of course) become lexical items through frequent and distinctive use: freezing rain, new-fallen snow, yellow snow, glare ice, purple wax snow (and a host of others skiers can cite) I can't imagine I've listed anywhere near all the good candidates, but already that's 40. Which, by the way, is several more than the generous estimate for Inuit. If we were as generous as some are for Eskimo, beyond those we'd add etiology, construction material, food, weapon, toy, floor, projectile, sculpture, refrigerator, obstruction (reaching double the total for Inuit), and probably dozens more. And we haven't even considered any synonyms for "snow job" (a quick look in a thesaurus reveals over 100), "snow" on your TV, and being "snowed" under. And why should we care? It is the conclusions drawn from this bizarre claim that puzzle me most. One seemingly popular conclusion takes Whorf (of the "Sapir-Whorf hypothesis") farther than perhaps even Whorf would go, and suggests that such differences in vocabulary make cross-language communication fundamentally impossible, or even make a notion of any underlying reality (accessible or not) impossible. None of this of course follows. As Pullum again points out, anyone concerned about a particular subject has a proportionately detailed vocabulary for it. There is little surprising or interesting about this, and it doesn't seem to have much affect on communication, realism, or anything else beyond signalling that you are (or aren't) an expert on a precise topic: I have precise words for things others would merely lump together and call "hypertext links". In reading a book on knife sharpening, I just discovered formal terminology for bits of rock, carefully distinguished by diameters from 10 inches down to 0.00015 or so. They're also described here. Wine tasters have another set of terms, far more detailed than I can use competently. .... So if some language(s) did have many words for snow, it should be no more interesting than these other everyday cases. But if you think about it, people who live in ever-snowful lands may perhaps care no more about fine variations of snow, than we in warmer climes care about fine variations of grass or pavement: anything so constant disappears into the background and becomes less interesting. |
Hey Chuck... words for snow
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
http://www.derose.net/steve/guides/snowwords/ So how many already? Pullum cites several sources on how many words certain Inuit dialects actually have for snow. The two main ones a The Dictionary of the West Greenlandic Eskimo Language (C. W. Schultz-Lorentzen, Copenhagan: Reitzels, 1927) gives just two words: qanik for snowflakes in the air, and aput for snow on the ground. We don't even have that, considering that "snowflakes" is just "snow flakes" pretending to be a single word. English being such a flexible language, we could even make it three words "flakes of snow." 3 + 2 plus your suggested two makes 7 words for snow! The problem is that there is really only one word: "snow" the rest is just creative accounting. As Pullum again points out, anyone concerned about a particular subject has a proportionately detailed vocabulary for it. Sure, that's elementary. For example, there are huge numbers of odd & wonderful words for all the different parts of a boat. Any specialized field of knowledge has it's vocabulary, medicine, computers, etc etc. To know the field one must master the vocabulary. ... There is little surprising or interesting about this, Surprising? Not to smart people, agreed. Interesting? I guess that all depends. .... it doesn't seem to have much affect on communication, realism, or anything else Horse puckey. Try discussing a medical issue with a doctor: 2/3 of the conversation will be him explaining what the words mean. Yet to another medical professional, the communication is efficient and accurate. .... beyond signalling that you are (or aren't) an expert on a precise topic: Yep. Tell me again, how is it that we spot the BS'ers and fakers and wanna-bees in this newsgroup? So if some language(s) did have many words for snow, it should be no more interesting than these other everyday cases. But if you think about it, people who live in ever-snowful lands may perhaps care no more about fine variations of snow, than we in warmer climes care about fine variations of grass or pavement: anything so constant disappears into the background and becomes less interesting. I disagree. We don't make a living from pavement or grass, and they vary considerably less than snow. The Eskimos have a very good reason for their vocabulary, just as your doctor has a good reason for his. Actually there are two reasons, but we don't need to go into the second one just now. Regards Doug King |
Hey Chuck...
DSK wrote: You know, the Eskimos have over 70 words for snow. I wonder how many different words for "rain" they have in Seattle. DSK No such thing as a wordy Seattlite. :-) |
Hey Chuck...
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:54:36 -0500, DSK wrote:
Well, OK, maybe I exaggerate. Then again, maybe not: http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_297.html And here is a revision of the same issue, including comments from a native Koniaq Eskimo who calls the Straight Dope author a dumb redneck (amusing in itself, but unfortunately she doesn't say how many words for snow there are in her language) http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010202.html Skiers have a pretty good snow vocabulary also, e.g.: dry powder deep powder wet powder (an oxymoron) packed powder machine made hard pack granular frozen granular loose granular (corn) wind blown wind blown with crust I'd guess that the inuit have some corresponding terms for all but the "machine made", and maybe some that I've never encountered. |
Hey Chuck...
DSK wrote: You know, the Eskimos have over 70 words for snow. I wonder how many different words for "rain" they have in Seattle. Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Just walk into a Starbucks and look at the board with the coffee drink descriptions. With that many ways to describe coffee, it has to be about a bizillion. Years ago, I narrowly escaped getting lynched in Seattle... I went to a couple of different shops & street vendors trying to buy a cup of coffee, and finally in exasperation said out loud "All I want is a PLAIN CUP OF COFFEE!" DSK Times have changed, and most of the coffee snobs are out of business. Anybody with the facilties to brew traditional coffee does so these days. The local Starbucks told me that drip coffee is their number one seller. I once ordered a cup of coffee and the barista replied, "I can make you an Americano...." "Too late. I was born an Americano. Right now I just want a cup of coffee." |
Hey Chuck...
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 03:22:13 GMT, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On 27 Nov 2006 18:15:07 -0800, "Chuck Gould" wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: I thought it only rained out in Seattle? ~~ snerk ~~ What are you referencing? Never mind. It's only the solid form of rain. :) There are at least two solid forms of rain. Well EEEXXXCCCUUUUUUSEEEEEEE MMMMEEEEE!!!!! PRECIPITATION.... Rain - Liquid Drizzle - liquid, light, moves with air currents Freezing Rain - liquid until hitting a cold surface Freezing Drizzle - see Freezing Rain Hail - precipitation in the form of balls or irregular lumps of ice Snow - precipitation of white or translucent ice crystals Thus ends the meteorological portion of this post which relates to boating because apparently it never snows in the Pacific Northwest where they boat all year 'round. Noted. Ignored, but noted. |
Hey Chuck... words for snow
DSK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: http://www.derose.net/steve/guides/snowwords/ So how many already? Pullum cites several sources on how many words certain Inuit dialects actually have for snow. The two main ones a The Dictionary of the West Greenlandic Eskimo Language (C. W. Schultz-Lorentzen, Copenhagan: Reitzels, 1927) gives just two words: qanik for snowflakes in the air, and aput for snow on the ground. We don't even have that, considering that "snowflakes" is just "snow flakes" pretending to be a single word. English being such a flexible language, we could even make it three words "flakes of snow." 3 + 2 plus your suggested two makes 7 words for snow! The problem is that there is really only one word: "snow" the rest is just creative accounting. As Pullum again points out, anyone concerned about a particular subject has a proportionately detailed vocabulary for it. Sure, that's elementary. For example, there are huge numbers of odd & wonderful words for all the different parts of a boat. Any specialized field of knowledge has it's vocabulary, medicine, computers, etc etc. To know the field one must master the vocabulary. ... There is little surprising or interesting about this, Surprising? Not to smart people, agreed. Interesting? I guess that all depends. .... it doesn't seem to have much affect on communication, realism, or anything else Horse puckey. Try discussing a medical issue with a doctor: 2/3 of the conversation will be him explaining what the words mean. Yet to another medical professional, the communication is efficient and accurate. .... beyond signalling that you are (or aren't) an expert on a precise topic: Yep. Tell me again, how is it that we spot the BS'ers and fakers and wanna-bees in this newsgroup? So if some language(s) did have many words for snow, it should be no more interesting than these other everyday cases. But if you think about it, people who live in ever-snowful lands may perhaps care no more about fine variations of snow, than we in warmer climes care about fine variations of grass or pavement: anything so constant disappears into the background and becomes less interesting. I disagree. We don't make a living from pavement or grass, and they vary considerably less than snow. The Eskimos have a very good reason for their vocabulary, just as your doctor has a good reason for his. Actually there are two reasons, but we don't need to go into the second one just now. Regards Doug King So how many different words do the Eskimos have for snow? |
Hey Chuck... words for snow
DSK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: http://www.derose.net/steve/guides/snowwords/ So how many already? Pullum cites several sources on how many words certain Inuit dialects actually have for snow. The two main ones a The Dictionary of the West Greenlandic Eskimo Language (C. W. Schultz-Lorentzen, Copenhagan: Reitzels, 1927) gives just two words: qanik for snowflakes in the air, and aput for snow on the ground. We don't even have that, considering that "snowflakes" is just "snow flakes" pretending to be a single word. English being such a flexible language, we could even make it three words "flakes of snow." 3 + 2 plus your suggested two makes 7 words for snow! The problem is that there is really only one word: "snow" the rest is just creative accounting. As Pullum again points out, anyone concerned about a particular subject has a proportionately detailed vocabulary for it. Sure, that's elementary. For example, there are huge numbers of odd & wonderful words for all the different parts of a boat. Any specialized field of knowledge has it's vocabulary, medicine, computers, etc etc. To know the field one must master the vocabulary. ... There is little surprising or interesting about this, Surprising? Not to smart people, agreed. Interesting? I guess that all depends. .... it doesn't seem to have much affect on communication, realism, or anything else Horse puckey. Try discussing a medical issue with a doctor: 2/3 of the conversation will be him explaining what the words mean. Yet to another medical professional, the communication is efficient and accurate. .... beyond signalling that you are (or aren't) an expert on a precise topic: Yep. Tell me again, how is it that we spot the BS'ers and fakers and wanna-bees in this newsgroup? So if some language(s) did have many words for snow, it should be no more interesting than these other everyday cases. But if you think about it, people who live in ever-snowful lands may perhaps care no more about fine variations of snow, than we in warmer climes care about fine variations of grass or pavement: anything so constant disappears into the background and becomes less interesting. I disagree. We don't make a living from pavement or grass, and they vary considerably less than snow. The Eskimos have a very good reason for their vocabulary, just as your doctor has a good reason for his. Actually there are two reasons, but we don't need to go into the second one just now. Regards Doug King When people are talking about snow and they use the word "powder" is that another word for snow? |
Hey Chuck...
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:00:12 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:45:00 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:54:36 -0500, DSK wrote: Well, OK, maybe I exaggerate. Then again, maybe not: http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_297.html And here is a revision of the same issue, including comments from a native Koniaq Eskimo who calls the Straight Dope author a dumb redneck (amusing in itself, but unfortunately she doesn't say how many words for snow there are in her language) http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010202.html Skiers have a pretty good snow vocabulary also, e.g.: dry powder deep powder wet powder (an oxymoron) packed powder machine made hard pack granular frozen granular loose granular (corn) wind blown wind blown with crust I'd guess that the inuit have some corresponding terms for all but the "machine made", and maybe some that I've never encountered. Do golfers have a corresponding vocabulary for grass? Enquiring minds (or in my case - empty mind) want to know. Too high, too fast, too slow, too thick, probably more. |
Hey Chuck...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On 28 Nov 2006 08:44:06 -0800, "Chuck Gould" wrote: DSK wrote: You know, the Eskimos have over 70 words for snow. I wonder how many different words for "rain" they have in Seattle. No such thing as a wordy Seattlite. :-) Really? I thought Seattle was the home of the breathless, wordy, world weary literary set? "Nope!" he replied, (thereby validating his previous observation that there is no such thing as a wordy Seattlite). :-) |
Hey Chuck...
Chuck Gould wrote:
Times have changed, and most of the coffee snobs are out of business. Anybody with the facilties to brew traditional coffee does so these days. The local Starbucks told me that drip coffee is their number one seller. Wow sounds like times have changed. I once ordered a cup of coffee and the barista replied, "I can make you an Americano...." "Too late. I was born an Americano. Right now I just want a cup of coffee." He may have been trying to offer you a date. DSK |
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Chuck Gould wrote: DSK wrote: You know, the Eskimos have over 70 words for snow. I wonder how many different words for "rain" they have in Seattle. Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Just walk into a Starbucks and look at the board with the coffee drink descriptions. With that many ways to describe coffee, it has to be about a bizillion. Years ago, I narrowly escaped getting lynched in Seattle... I went to a couple of different shops & street vendors trying to buy a cup of coffee, and finally in exasperation said out loud "All I want is a PLAIN CUP OF COFFEE!" DSK Times have changed, and most of the coffee snobs are out of business. Anybody with the facilties to brew traditional coffee does so these days. The local Starbucks told me that drip coffee is their number one seller. I love drip coffee, but I like it to be made with good coffee, not that **** in a can like Maxwell House or Folgers. |
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Poop I am from Canada and our only concern is what to put in our whisky.
What is coffee or this ?? drink lattiee? Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:58:12 GMT, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 03:22:13 GMT, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On 27 Nov 2006 18:15:07 -0800, "Chuck Gould" wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: I thought it only rained out in Seattle? ~~ snerk ~~ What are you referencing? Never mind. It's only the solid form of rain. :) There are at least two solid forms of rain. Well EEEXXXCCCUUUUUUSEEEEEEE MMMMEEEEE!!!!! PRECIPITATION.... Rain - Liquid Drizzle - liquid, light, moves with air currents Freezing Rain - liquid until hitting a cold surface Freezing Drizzle - see Freezing Rain Hail - precipitation in the form of balls or irregular lumps of ice Snow - precipitation of white or translucent ice crystals Thus ends the meteorological portion of this post which relates to boating because apparently it never snows in the Pacific Northwest where they boat all year 'round. Noted. Ignored, but noted. Ok, I know you live in liberal California so anything can be parsed in numerous ways, but exactly how to you note something and ignore it at the same time? Hmmmmm? :) |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:58:12 GMT, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 03:22:13 GMT, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message m... On 27 Nov 2006 18:15:07 -0800, "Chuck Gould" wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: I thought it only rained out in Seattle? ~~ snerk ~~ What are you referencing? Never mind. It's only the solid form of rain. :) There are at least two solid forms of rain. Well EEEXXXCCCUUUUUUSEEEEEEE MMMMEEEEE!!!!! PRECIPITATION.... Rain - Liquid Drizzle - liquid, light, moves with air currents Freezing Rain - liquid until hitting a cold surface Freezing Drizzle - see Freezing Rain Hail - precipitation in the form of balls or irregular lumps of ice Snow - precipitation of white or translucent ice crystals Thus ends the meteorological portion of this post which relates to boating because apparently it never snows in the Pacific Northwest where they boat all year 'round. Noted. Ignored, but noted. Ok, I know you live in liberal California so anything can be parsed in numerous ways, but exactly how to you note something and ignore it at the same time? Hmmmmm? :) It's a West Coast thing. |
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"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 17:00:12 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 11:45:00 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:54:36 -0500, DSK wrote: Well, OK, maybe I exaggerate. Then again, maybe not: http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_297.html And here is a revision of the same issue, including comments from a native Koniaq Eskimo who calls the Straight Dope author a dumb redneck (amusing in itself, but unfortunately she doesn't say how many words for snow there are in her language) http://www.straightdope.com/columns/010202.html Skiers have a pretty good snow vocabulary also, e.g.: dry powder deep powder wet powder (an oxymoron) packed powder machine made hard pack granular frozen granular loose granular (corn) wind blown wind blown with crust I'd guess that the inuit have some corresponding terms for all but the "machine made", and maybe some that I've never encountered. Do golfers have a corresponding vocabulary for grass? Enquiring minds (or in my case - empty mind) want to know. Too high, too fast, too slow, too thick, probably more. F'n grass? |
Hey Chuck... words for snow
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:16:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: So how many different words do the Eskimos have for snow? 42 - The Answer to Life, The Universe and Everything. Or is that 24? Maybe the answer is dyslexic. |
Hey Chuck... words for snow
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:16:37 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: So how many different words do the Eskimos have for snow? 42 - The Answer to Life, The Universe and Everything. You have the answer to all questions, but you never said they were correct. grin |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 23:05:21 GMT, Dry 1 "spots are out "@ Vail's.com wrote: Poop I am from Canada and our only concern is what to put in our whisky. Hockey pucks? Horse hockey pucks? |
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 23:34:42 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 23:05:21 GMT, Dry 1 "spots are out "@ Vail's.com wrote: Poop I am from Canada and our only concern is what to put in our whisky. Hockey pucks? LOL! Good one. |
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