"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Southwest Airlines, while on time most of the time, sucks.

Freakin' cattle car airline. :)


They have one of the few direct flights from RDU to Vegas..
Sometimes as cheap as $200.00 roundtrip.

No one is forcing you to fly with them.
(not that I know of anyway) :-)



db

The fact is that we can't protect ourselves from a determined
criminal/terrorist. In the air, on land, or on the water.

Timothy McVeigh blew up an office building with a rental truck. Maybe
we shouldn't rent trucks to Irish Americans.

When flying gets to the point where there is *no* checked luggage
allowed and everybody changes into a unisex, disposable, paper suit and
checks their street clothes as well it will still be possible to bring
down a plane. A shoulder fired missle doesn't depend upon whether the
people aboard have access to hair gel or toothpaste in the passenger
cabin.

Homeland Security protects some of our ferry runs in Puget Sound. Most
of the time that you see the chase boats with the 50 caliber machine
guns mounted on the bow the ferries are going between downtown Seattle
and Bainbridge Island. The average household income on Bainbridge is
probably a lot higher than just about anywhere else outside of Bill
Gates' neighborhood in Medina, so when a brand new ferry is brought
into the system it always starts on the Seattle to Bainbridge run. The
older Bainbridge ferry then gets assigned to the run to Bremerton,
Kingston, or one of the other more "working class" destinations.
Bainbridge also gets a disproportionate number of the armed escorts.
Gotta protect the women, children and billlionaires first, you know.
:-)

When you line up to board a ferry in a vehicle, drug and weapons
detecting dogs run up and down the que, sniffing out the n'erdowells
and ****ing on the ocassional tire. Nobody searches the walk-on
passengers; you could carry a sniper rifle aboard broken down into a
briefcase and nobody would care.

The chase boats with the machine boats would only really be effective
against an attack
from another vessel. A terrorist criminal with an IQ above 75 would
figure out that it would be a better plan to attack a ferry with
something brought aboard, rather than try to reenact the USS Cole and
ram a ferry with a kamikazi inflatable.

I suspect that the next time terrorist criminals want to bring down a
plane in the US it will be with means not carried aboard by passengers.
A ferry boat would be more logically attacked from on board. Because so
many of these people are willing to die as part of the act, they are
nearly impossible to stop. We can't check everything and still go about
the business of daily living. We can't allow terrorist criminals to
make us perpetually fearful, as if we do some fascist leader will
eventually respond to promise us "security" in exchange for liberty and
we will no longer be a free society.

Chuckwrote
The chase boat with the machine boats (I'm sure Chuck means "Guns")
would only be effective against an attack from another vessel.

Sorry Chuck, but your wrong, Those CG Safe Boats you see escorting the
ferrys also carry a very capable boarding team, and can be aboard on a
moments notice. They train extensively for just such a scenario. UD

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

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On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:59:26 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/27/2006 10:46 AM, D-unit wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Southwest Airlines, while on time most of the time, sucks.

Freakin' cattle car airline. :)


They have one of the few direct flights from RDU to Vegas..
Sometimes as cheap as $200.00 roundtrip.

No one is forcing you to fly with them.
(not that I know of anyway) :-)



db




I flew SW out to Vegas and the plane seating wasn't nearly as
uncomfortable as with some airlines I've been on recently.
The plane to avoid is the damned Airbus.

The real problem is "airport security," the fraud being perpetrated on
the flying public to make them feel as if the federal government is
doing something to keep them safe. You can't bring on your own food and
drink anymore, which is nothing more than a boondoggle for the purveyors
of crap food you encounter once you are through with "security" checking
your feet.

Seems like that was the fraud the Dems wanted so badly that Bush finally
caved. Stupidity. I'm glad to see we agree on something.

Harry Krause wrote:
On 11/27/2006 10:46 AM, D-unit wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Southwest Airlines, while on time most of the time, sucks.

Freakin' cattle car airline. :)


They have one of the few direct flights from RDU to Vegas..
Sometimes as cheap as $200.00 roundtrip.

No one is forcing you to fly with them.
(not that I know of anyway) :-)



db




I flew SW out to Vegas and the plane seating wasn't nearly as
uncomfortable as with some airlines I've been on recently.
The plane to avoid is the damned Airbus.

The real problem is "airport security," the fraud being perpetrated on
the flying public to make them feel as if the federal government is
doing something to keep them safe. You can't bring on your own food and
drink anymore, which is nothing more than a boondoggle for the purveyors
of crap food you encounter once you are through with "security" checking
your feet.

Are the TSA workers unionized?

UglyDan®©™ wrote:
Chuckwrote
The chase boat with the machine boats (I'm sure Chuck means "Guns")
would only be effective against an attack from another vessel.

Sorry Chuck, but your wrong, Those CG Safe Boats you see escorting the
ferrys also carry a very capable boarding team, and can be aboard on a
moments notice. They train extensively for just such a scenario. UD

I would have to assume that there is a boarding team aboard the escort
boats.

The scenario I am thinking of would involve a major explosion. Most
likely a suicide mission.
By the time the crew from the chase boat got aboard, the damage would
already be done.

Bert Robbins wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

On 11/27/2006 10:46 AM, D-unit wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

Southwest Airlines, while on time most of the time, sucks.

Freakin' cattle car airline. :)



They have one of the few direct flights from RDU to Vegas..
Sometimes as cheap as $200.00 roundtrip.

No one is forcing you to fly with them.
(not that I know of anyway) :-)



db




I flew SW out to Vegas and the plane seating wasn't nearly as
uncomfortable as with some airlines I've been on recently.
The plane to avoid is the damned Airbus.

The real problem is "airport security," the fraud being perpetrated on
the flying public to make them feel as if the federal government is
doing something to keep them safe. You can't bring on your own food
and drink anymore, which is nothing more than a boondoggle for the
purveyors of crap food you encounter once you are through with
"security" checking your feet.


Are the TSA workers unionized?

You seem to have a real fetish for unions Bert.

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

On 11/27/2006 10:46 AM, D-unit wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

Southwest Airlines, while on time most of the time, sucks.

Freakin' cattle car airline. :)



They have one of the few direct flights from RDU to Vegas..
Sometimes as cheap as $200.00 roundtrip.

No one is forcing you to fly with them.
(not that I know of anyway) :-)



db




I flew SW out to Vegas and the plane seating wasn't nearly as
uncomfortable as with some airlines I've been on recently.
The plane to avoid is the damned Airbus.

The real problem is "airport security," the fraud being perpetrated on
the flying public to make them feel as if the federal government is
doing something to keep them safe. You can't bring on your own food and
drink anymore, which is nothing more than a boondoggle for the purveyors
of crap food you encounter once you are through with "security" checking
your feet.


Are the TSA workers unionized?

You seem to have a real fetish for unions Bert.

Paul Harvey today was stating that due to the government unions, state
employees on average make more money than private company employees. Maybe
we should now reqqire results from them.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
On 11/27/2006 10:24 PM, Calif Bill wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

On 11/27/2006 10:46 AM, D-unit wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

Southwest Airlines, while on time most of the time, sucks.

Freakin' cattle car airline. :)


They have one of the few direct flights from RDU to Vegas..
Sometimes as cheap as $200.00 roundtrip.

No one is forcing you to fly with them.
(not that I know of anyway) :-)



db



I flew SW out to Vegas and the plane seating wasn't nearly as
uncomfortable as with some airlines I've been on recently.
The plane to avoid is the damned Airbus.

The real problem is "airport security," the fraud being perpetrated on
the flying public to make them feel as if the federal government is
doing something to keep them safe. You can't bring on your own food
and drink anymore, which is nothing more than a boondoggle for the
purveyors of crap food you encounter once you are through with
"security" checking your feet.

Are the TSA workers unionized?
You seem to have a real fetish for unions Bert.

Paul Harvey today was stating that due to the government unions, state
employees on average make more money than private company employees.
Maybe we should now reqqire results from them.


Oh, well, if Paul Harvey says it, it is fit for a bumper sticker. Are you
in touch with anything real?

More than a union flack.