Good article in NYTimes.
 

I want to go swim with these guys!

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html...html?th&emc=th

Good article in NYTimes.
 

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:57:07 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/17/2006 7:54 AM, JohnH wrote:
I want to go swim with these guys!

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html...html?th&emc=th



That water is cold, even for a cold-hearted conservative like you. :}

Yeah, but wasn't that cute? That's the best thing I've seen in the NYTimes
- ever!

Good article in NYTimes.
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:54:10 -0500, JohnH wrote:

I want to go swim with these guys!

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html...html?th&emc=th

That looks like a fun movie.

We just watched March of the Penguins on DVD. Kewl bird.

Good article in NYTimes.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 11/17/2006 7:54 AM, JohnH wrote:
I want to go swim with these guys!

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html...html?th&emc=th



That water is cold, even for a cold-hearted conservative like you. :}

Better check your facts. It seems that liberals are the cold-hearted lot:

Philanthropy Expert: Conservatives Are More Generous
By Frank Brieaddy
SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- Syracuse University professor Arthur C. Brooks is about to
become the darling of the religious right in America -- and it's making him
nervous.

The child of academics, raised in a liberal household and educated in the
liberal arts, Brooks has written a book that concludes religious
conservatives donate far more money than secular liberals to all sorts of
charitable activities, irrespective of income.

In the book, he cites extensive data analysis to demonstrate that values
advocated by conservatives -- from church attendance and two-parent families
to the Protestant work ethic and a distaste for government-funded social
services -- make conservatives more generous than liberals.

The book, titled "Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate
Conservatism" (Basic Books, $26), is due for release Nov. 24.

When it comes to helping the needy, Brooks writes: "For too long, liberals
have been claiming they are the most virtuous members of American society.
Although they usually give less to charity, they have nevertheless lambasted
conservatives for their callousness in the face of social injustice."

For the record, Brooks, 42, has been registered in the past as a Democrat,
then a Republican, but now lists himself as independent, explaining, "I have
no comfortable political home."



http://www.amazon.com/Who-Really-Car.../dp/0465008216

Good article in NYTimes.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 11/17/2006 8:03 AM, JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 07:57:07 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/17/2006 7:54 AM, JohnH wrote:
I want to go swim with these guys!

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html...html?th&emc=th


That water is cold, even for a cold-hearted conservative like you. :}

Yeah, but wasn't that cute? That's the best thing I've seen in the
NYTimes
- ever!


To appreciate the Times, you have to do more than look at the pitchers.

It makes an excellent fish-wrap.

Good article in NYTimes.
 

On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:41:15 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

now lists himself as independent, explaining, "I have
no comfortable political home."

I can relate to that.

Good article in NYTimes.
 

On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:41:15 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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On 11/17/2006 7:54 AM, JohnH wrote:
I want to go swim with these guys!

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html...html?th&emc=th



That water is cold, even for a cold-hearted conservative like you. :}

Better check your facts. It seems that liberals are the cold-hearted lot:

Philanthropy Expert: Conservatives Are More Generous
By Frank Brieaddy
SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- Syracuse University professor Arthur C. Brooks is about to
become the darling of the religious right in America -- and it's making him
nervous.

The child of academics, raised in a liberal household and educated in the
liberal arts, Brooks has written a book that concludes religious
conservatives donate far more money than secular liberals to all sorts of
charitable activities, irrespective of income.

In the book, he cites extensive data analysis to demonstrate that values
advocated by conservatives -- from church attendance and two-parent families
to the Protestant work ethic and a distaste for government-funded social
services -- make conservatives more generous than liberals.

The book, titled "Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate
Conservatism" (Basic Books, $26), is due for release Nov. 24.

When it comes to helping the needy, Brooks writes: "For too long, liberals
have been claiming they are the most virtuous members of American society.
Although they usually give less to charity, they have nevertheless lambasted
conservatives for their callousness in the face of social injustice."

For the record, Brooks, 42, has been registered in the past as a Democrat,
then a Republican, but now lists himself as independent, explaining, "I have
no comfortable political home."



http://www.amazon.com/Who-Really-Car.../dp/0465008216



Somebody finally figured that out?

Good article in NYTimes.
 

On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 07:27:05 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

On 11/17/2006 11:41 PM, NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
On 11/17/2006 7:54 AM, JohnH wrote:
I want to go swim with these guys!

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html...html?th&emc=th


That water is cold, even for a cold-hearted conservative like you. :}

Better check your facts. It seems that liberals are the cold-hearted lot:

Philanthropy Expert: Conservatives Are More Generous
By Frank Brieaddy
SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- Syracuse University professor Arthur C. Brooks is about to
become the darling of the religious right in America -- and it's making him
nervous.


I've seen other studies that indicate that evangelical religious
conservatives "donate" mostly to activities related to or sponsored by
their church or sect, and it is my opinion that their churches and sects
are engaged mostly in activities aimed at perpetuating themselves.

I have personal knowledge of this. One of my relatives by marriage was
engaged in a perpetual fundraiser for a "mission" for her fundie church.
It was sponsoring "missions" to bring the gospel to...poor Roman
Catholic villagers in Central and South America. In other words, it was
converting one brand of Christian to its brand of Christian. Yeah,
generous Christians...perpetuating themselves.

On the other hand, I have personal knowledge of non-conservative
Christians, Lutherans in this particular case, who donated the use of
their religious classroom facilities to a non-profit, non-religious
group that provided schooling for kids with certain handicaps that were
not getting the programs they needed from their conservative school board.

What's the lesson in this? None, except that when fundie religious
conservatives are involved, I don't trust them, their intent, their
programs or their beliefs.

Your example is one reason I'd never send money to a television preacher.
The local Lutheran church is another story. It helps me pay less taxes.

Good article in NYTimes.
 

Harry Krause wrote:
.. Once in a while, they'll take pity on me and pass
back a homemade biscuit. Now *that's* the kind of incentive that would
make me a believer!

Harry, you'd get saved over a bisuit???


LOL!

Good article in NYTimes.
 

Harry Krause wrote:
On 11/18/2006 8:36 AM, Tim wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
. Once in a while, they'll take pity on me and pass
back a homemade biscuit. Now *that's* the kind of incentive that would
make me a believer!

Harry, you'd get saved over a bisuit???


LOL!


It's not just the biscuits. These are women from the generation whose
mothers taught them how to cook.

yes, that helps..... I would imagine, they are very delightful gals,
too.