Overheated.... Engine won't crank
 

Just wanted to add that the engine does crank a little so i don't believed
it seized or anything.... Dunno if that pertains....


"Matt" wrote in message
...
First boat owner for about a year and a half, I have a 94' Chaparral w/ a
Mercruiser I/O (all maintence done at end of last year). I was recently
in
a local lake and heard a clunk, which i believed turned out to be a rock.
I
was in a no-wake zone so going very slowly, no physical damaged noticed.
Don't know if this is related to what I'm about to say but thought the
background might help anyone come to a conclusion. I noticed about 5
minutes later the temperature alarm went off and temp was climbing. I
shut
down immediately, then waited about 2-4 mintues and tried to restart. As
I
turned the key the engine maybe cranked once or twice then nothing, waited
some more and same problem. (It was something like when the battery dies
and the engine won't turn over completely) But the battery was charged
fully (I also tried to jump it). I noticed that as i continued to attempt
to start the boat the cables to from the battery got extremely hot and
then
one seemed to smoke a little as i was attempting to crank. I checked the
battery afterwards (being towed out of the water) and all was fine.

Anyone with any suggestions, is greatly appreciated.

THANKS.

-Matt

Overheated.... Engine won't crank
 

Remove the spark plugs and see if it will turn over. If not, remove the
stern drive and try again.
"Matt" wrote in message
...
First boat owner for about a year and a half, I have a 94' Chaparral w/ a
Mercruiser I/O (all maintence done at end of last year). I was recently
in
a local lake and heard a clunk, which i believed turned out to be a rock.
I
was in a no-wake zone so going very slowly, no physical damaged noticed.
Don't know if this is related to what I'm about to say but thought the
background might help anyone come to a conclusion. I noticed about 5
minutes later the temperature alarm went off and temp was climbing. I
shut
down immediately, then waited about 2-4 mintues and tried to restart. As
I
turned the key the engine maybe cranked once or twice then nothing, waited
some more and same problem. (It was something like when the battery dies
and the engine won't turn over completely) But the battery was charged
fully (I also tried to jump it). I noticed that as i continued to attempt
to start the boat the cables to from the battery got extremely hot and
then
one seemed to smoke a little as i was attempting to crank. I checked the
battery afterwards (being towed out of the water) and all was fine.

Anyone with any suggestions, is greatly appreciated.

THANKS.

-Matt

Overheated.... Engine won't crank
 

"Matt" wrote in message ...
Just wanted to add that the engine does crank a little so i don't believed
it seized or anything.... Dunno if that pertains....


"Matt" wrote in message
...
First boat owner for about a year and a half, I have a 94' Chaparral w/ a
Mercruiser I/O (all maintence done at end of last year). I was recently
in
a local lake and heard a clunk, which i believed turned out to be a rock.
I
was in a no-wake zone so going very slowly, no physical damaged noticed.
Don't know if this is related to what I'm about to say but thought the
background might help anyone come to a conclusion. I noticed about 5
minutes later the temperature alarm went off and temp was climbing. I
shut
down immediately, then waited about 2-4 mintues and tried to restart. As
I
turned the key the engine maybe cranked once or twice then nothing, waited
some more and same problem. (It was something like when the battery dies
and the engine won't turn over completely) But the battery was charged
fully (I also tried to jump it). I noticed that as i continued to attempt
to start the boat the cables to from the battery got extremely hot and
then
one seemed to smoke a little as i was attempting to crank. I checked the
battery afterwards (being towed out of the water) and all was fine.

Anyone with any suggestions, is greatly appreciated.

THANKS.

-Matt



Pull the spark plugs out, see if their's water in the cylinders by
cranking it over. If their is water, you probably warped a head when
you over heated the engine.

Overheated.... Engine won't crank
 

Do you think it could be the starter? Cause I checked the amp draw and it
was over 400 amps. From what i was told that is a bad starter... but if so
would it still crank a little if the starter is completely shot?


"Jim" wrote in message
...
Remove the spark plugs and see if it will turn over. If not, remove the
stern drive and try again.
"Matt" wrote in message
...
First boat owner for about a year and a half, I have a 94' Chaparral w/
a
Mercruiser I/O (all maintence done at end of last year). I was recently
in
a local lake and heard a clunk, which i believed turned out to be a
rock.
I
was in a no-wake zone so going very slowly, no physical damaged noticed.
Don't know if this is related to what I'm about to say but thought the
background might help anyone come to a conclusion. I noticed about 5
minutes later the temperature alarm went off and temp was climbing. I
shut
down immediately, then waited about 2-4 mintues and tried to restart.
As
I
turned the key the engine maybe cranked once or twice then nothing,
waited
some more and same problem. (It was something like when the battery
dies
and the engine won't turn over completely) But the battery was charged
fully (I also tried to jump it). I noticed that as i continued to
attempt
to start the boat the cables to from the battery got extremely hot and
then
one seemed to smoke a little as i was attempting to crank. I checked
the
battery afterwards (being towed out of the water) and all was fine.

Anyone with any suggestions, is greatly appreciated.

THANKS.

-Matt

Overheated.... Engine won't crank
 

I don't have enough information to acuse the starter of misbehaving. Can you
roll the engine over by hand?
"Matt" wrote in message
...
Do you think it could be the starter? Cause I checked the amp draw and it
was over 400 amps. From what i was told that is a bad starter... but if
so
would it still crank a little if the starter is completely shot?


"Jim" wrote in message
...
Remove the spark plugs and see if it will turn over. If not, remove the
stern drive and try again.
"Matt" wrote in message
...
First boat owner for about a year and a half, I have a 94' Chaparral
w/
a
Mercruiser I/O (all maintence done at end of last year). I was
recently
in
a local lake and heard a clunk, which i believed turned out to be a
rock.
I
was in a no-wake zone so going very slowly, no physical damaged
noticed.
Don't know if this is related to what I'm about to say but thought the
background might help anyone come to a conclusion. I noticed about 5
minutes later the temperature alarm went off and temp was climbing. I
shut
down immediately, then waited about 2-4 mintues and tried to restart.
As
I
turned the key the engine maybe cranked once or twice then nothing,
waited
some more and same problem. (It was something like when the battery
dies
and the engine won't turn over completely) But the battery was
charged
fully (I also tried to jump it). I noticed that as i continued to
attempt
to start the boat the cables to from the battery got extremely hot and
then
one seemed to smoke a little as i was attempting to crank. I checked
the
battery afterwards (being towed out of the water) and all was fine.

Anyone with any suggestions, is greatly appreciated.

THANKS.

-Matt

Overheated.... Engine won't crank
 

I can roll the motor by hand. I had my local mechanic look at it and he
said that since the motor can turn (by hand) he doubt it seized. Then he
checked the amp draw and he said it was off the scale on a 400 scale. He
also checked the voltage drop on the battery (standard battery, not marine)
and it was approx 1.6 which he said was also high.

My main concern is whether it was coincidence that it overheated then i
couldn't start it (being that the starter went). I could have always
clogged the intake with weeds then coincidence that the starter blew... but
i don't like relying on coincidence's.

-matt
"Dean" wrote in message
...
I doubt that it is the starter. Much more likely the motor is seized.

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:23:41 -0400, "Matt"
wrote:

Do you think it could be the starter? Cause I checked the amp draw and
it
was over 400 amps. From what i was told that is a bad starter... but if
so
would it still crank a little if the starter is completely shot?


"Jim" wrote in message
...
Remove the spark plugs and see if it will turn over. If not, remove the
stern drive and try again.
"Matt" wrote in message
...
First boat owner for about a year and a half, I have a 94' Chaparral
w/
a
Mercruiser I/O (all maintence done at end of last year). I was
recently
in
a local lake and heard a clunk, which i believed turned out to be a
rock.
I
was in a no-wake zone so going very slowly, no physical damaged
noticed.
Don't know if this is related to what I'm about to say but thought
the
background might help anyone come to a conclusion. I noticed about 5
minutes later the temperature alarm went off and temp was climbing.
I
shut
down immediately, then waited about 2-4 mintues and tried to restart.
As
I
turned the key the engine maybe cranked once or twice then nothing,
waited
some more and same problem. (It was something like when the battery
dies
and the engine won't turn over completely) But the battery was
charged
fully (I also tried to jump it). I noticed that as i continued to
attempt
to start the boat the cables to from the battery got extremely hot
and
then
one seemed to smoke a little as i was attempting to crank. I checked
the
battery afterwards (being towed out of the water) and all was fine.

Anyone with any suggestions, is greatly appreciated.

THANKS.

-Matt







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Overheated.... Engine won't crank
 

gms are known for having heat related problems with the starters so perhaps
you did damage it when you overheated. Or you damaged the starter trying to
turn over the overheated motor. When a motor overheats the piston rings can
over expand and temporarily seize in the cylinders. When you say you can
turn it over by hand, you mean you can put a breaker bar on the crankshaft
front bolt and turn the crank? Cause just turning the waterpump pully ain't
the same thing.

If you're trying to save money pull the starter and see if it is locked up.
The ends come off and it has bearings in either end. Replacable too if
you're handy at that sort of thing. You can also spin it off the motor with
a jumper cable. It will jump so have someone hang on to it.




"Matt" wrote in message
...
I can roll the motor by hand. I had my local mechanic look at it and he
said that since the motor can turn (by hand) he doubt it seized. Then he
checked the amp draw and he said it was off the scale on a 400 scale. He
also checked the voltage drop on the battery (standard battery, not
marine)
and it was approx 1.6 which he said was also high.

My main concern is whether it was coincidence that it overheated then i
couldn't start it (being that the starter went). I could have always
clogged the intake with weeds then coincidence that the starter blew...
but
i don't like relying on coincidence's.

-matt
"Dean" wrote in message
...
I doubt that it is the starter. Much more likely the motor is seized.

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:23:41 -0400, "Matt"
wrote:

Do you think it could be the starter? Cause I checked the amp draw and
it
was over 400 amps. From what i was told that is a bad starter... but
if
so
would it still crank a little if the starter is completely shot?


"Jim" wrote in message
...
Remove the spark plugs and see if it will turn over. If not, remove
the
stern drive and try again.
"Matt" wrote in message
...
First boat owner for about a year and a half, I have a 94'
Chaparral
w/
a
Mercruiser I/O (all maintence done at end of last year). I was
recently
in
a local lake and heard a clunk, which i believed turned out to be a
rock.
I
was in a no-wake zone so going very slowly, no physical damaged
noticed.
Don't know if this is related to what I'm about to say but thought
the
background might help anyone come to a conclusion. I noticed about
5
minutes later the temperature alarm went off and temp was climbing.
I
shut
down immediately, then waited about 2-4 mintues and tried to
restart.
As
I
turned the key the engine maybe cranked once or twice then nothing,
waited
some more and same problem. (It was something like when the
battery
dies
and the engine won't turn over completely) But the battery was
charged
fully (I also tried to jump it). I noticed that as i continued to
attempt
to start the boat the cables to from the battery got extremely hot
and
then
one seemed to smoke a little as i was attempting to crank. I
checked
the
battery afterwards (being towed out of the water) and all was fine.

Anyone with any suggestions, is greatly appreciated.

THANKS.

-Matt







--
http://ripperd2.dhs.org

Overheated.... Engine won't crank
 

I removed the starter yesterday and am going to have it looked @ by my local
mechanic (not boat mechanic). As for turning the motor i just turned it by
hand holding the wheels (in front of the water pump) that are connected to
the belts... If i understand you correctly, what your saying is that
eventhough i can turn it by hand it might just be the water pump that i'm
turning rather then the motor itself? (Hope I made sense, i dont know all
the termanology.) thanks for all your input, it's greatly appreciated!


"Lawrence James" wrote in message
ink.net...
gms are known for having heat related problems with the starters so
perhaps
you did damage it when you overheated. Or you damaged the starter trying
to
turn over the overheated motor. When a motor overheats the piston rings
can
over expand and temporarily seize in the cylinders. When you say you can
turn it over by hand, you mean you can put a breaker bar on the crankshaft
front bolt and turn the crank? Cause just turning the waterpump pully
ain't
the same thing.

If you're trying to save money pull the starter and see if it is locked
up.
The ends come off and it has bearings in either end. Replacable too if
you're handy at that sort of thing. You can also spin it off the motor
with
a jumper cable. It will jump so have someone hang on to it.




"Matt" wrote in message
...
I can roll the motor by hand. I had my local mechanic look at it and he
said that since the motor can turn (by hand) he doubt it seized. Then
he
checked the amp draw and he said it was off the scale on a 400 scale.
He
also checked the voltage drop on the battery (standard battery, not
marine)
and it was approx 1.6 which he said was also high.

My main concern is whether it was coincidence that it overheated then i
couldn't start it (being that the starter went). I could have always
clogged the intake with weeds then coincidence that the starter blew...
but
i don't like relying on coincidence's.

-matt
"Dean" wrote in message
...
I doubt that it is the starter. Much more likely the motor is seized.

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:23:41 -0400, "Matt"
wrote:

Do you think it could be the starter? Cause I checked the amp draw
and
it
was over 400 amps. From what i was told that is a bad starter... but
if
so
would it still crank a little if the starter is completely shot?


"Jim" wrote in message
...
Remove the spark plugs and see if it will turn over. If not, remove
the
stern drive and try again.
"Matt" wrote in message
...
First boat owner for about a year and a half, I have a 94'
Chaparral
w/
a
Mercruiser I/O (all maintence done at end of last year). I was
recently
in
a local lake and heard a clunk, which i believed turned out to be
a
rock.
I
was in a no-wake zone so going very slowly, no physical damaged
noticed.
Don't know if this is related to what I'm about to say but
thought
the
background might help anyone come to a conclusion. I noticed
about
5
minutes later the temperature alarm went off and temp was
climbing.
I
shut
down immediately, then waited about 2-4 mintues and tried to
restart.
As
I
turned the key the engine maybe cranked once or twice then
nothing,
waited
some more and same problem. (It was something like when the
battery
dies
and the engine won't turn over completely) But the battery was
charged
fully (I also tried to jump it). I noticed that as i continued
to
attempt
to start the boat the cables to from the battery got extremely
hot
and
then
one seemed to smoke a little as i was attempting to crank. I
checked
the
battery afterwards (being towed out of the water) and all was
fine.

Anyone with any suggestions, is greatly appreciated.

THANKS.

-Matt







--
http://ripperd2.dhs.org